http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/
(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/)
Mass shooting in Aurora at the end of the Batman screening tonight.
Quote(CBS/AP) AURORA, Colo. - At least 14 people were killed and dozens more injured by a gunmen who allegedly began his attack on Denver area movie-goers by hurling tear gas into the crowd at a Batman "The Dark Knight Rises" premiere around midnight on Thursday, police say.
Oats said a gas mask, a knife, and at least one rifle and a handgun were found on the suspect. Oats said the suspect informed officers that he had explosives in his home, which was in the local area. There was no suggestion of links to international terrorism.
Hour east of me. Actually found out while making the mistake of waiting for the credits to finish. Don't.
Calling it now: I give it 4 days until someone on Fox News blames video games.
I just know the suspect has a manifesto. He was wearing a fucking gas mask for christs sake.
I'm guessing that he's a crazy fundamentalist megachurch rich fuck from CO Springs who lost his house in the fire of gods wrath. Purging out the evil for the Lord.
I'm expecting Fox News to mention how close this was to Columbine at some point for added effect. Someone let me know if I get BINGO, ya?
Ima blame that Limbaugh feller
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/07/limbaugh-new-batman-film-anti-romney-conspiracy
whipping up those fans of his to a frenzy :roll:
tl/ccl Batman Lights Up as Rush calls it is an anti-Romney conspiracy because the big bad is called Bane ; you know, like Bain Capital . . .
/words fail me
Quote from: MMIX on July 20, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
Ima blame that Limbaugh feller
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/07/limbaugh-new-batman-film-anti-romney-conspiracy
whipping up those fans of his to a frenzy :roll:
tl/ccl Batman Lights Up as Rush calls it is an anti-Romney conspiracy because the big bad is called Bane ; you know, like Bain Capital . . .
/words fail me
You clearly haven't read my Or Kill Me post from earlier this evening.
Quote from: Da6s on July 20, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: MMIX on July 20, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
Ima blame that Limbaugh feller
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/07/limbaugh-new-batman-film-anti-romney-conspiracy
whipping up those fans of his to a frenzy :roll:
tl/ccl Batman Lights Up as Rush calls it is an anti-Romney conspiracy because the big bad is called Bane ; you know, like Bain Capital . . .
/words fail me
You clearly haven't read my Or Kill Me post from earlier this evening.
:oops: Nope, I hadn't.
Quote from: Da6s on July 20, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
I'm expecting Fox News to mention how close this was to Columbine at some point for added effect. Someone let me know if I get BINGO, ya?
CNN did. Didn't see Fox mention it in their article.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html
It's at the bottom.
MOVIE THEATER SECURITY! X-RAY OR PAT DOWN, YOUR CHOICE. ZERO TOLERANCE! LOOK AT YOUR CHILD WITH HIS LITTLE BATMAN CUP - DO YOU WANT HIM SHOT? THIS IS FOR YOUR SAFETY, YOUR CHILDREN'S SAFETY, FREEDOM(TM), AND AMERICA!
And yeah. It does look contrived.
Quote from: Da6s on July 20, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/
(http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57476379/mass-shooting-at-batman-premiere-in-denver-suburb-suburb-aurora-colorado/)
Mass shooting in Aurora at the end of the Batman screening tonight.
Quote(CBS/AP) AURORA, Colo. - At least 14 people were killed and dozens more injured by a gunmen who allegedly began his attack on Denver area movie-goers by hurling tear gas into the crowd at a Batman "The Dark Knight Rises" premiere around midnight on Thursday, police say.
Oats said a gas mask, a knife, and at least one rifle and a handgun were found on the suspect. Oats said the suspect informed officers that he had explosives in his home, which was in the local area. There was no suggestion of links to international terrorism.
Hour east of me. Actually found out while making the mistake of waiting for the credits to finish. Don't.
Calling it now: I give it 4 days until someone on Fox News blames video games.
I just know the suspect has a manifesto. He was wearing a fucking gas mask for christs sake.
I'm guessing that he's a crazy fundamentalist megachurch rich fuck from CO Springs who lost his house in the fire of gods wrath. Purging out the evil for the Lord.
I'm expecting Fox News to mention how close this was to Columbine at some point for added effect. Someone let me know if I get BINGO, ya?
The Springs would have been my guess...or just your average East Colfax sociopath.
But it turns out he was a California transplant, CU Med student. Neuroscience. Yup...
He left school after last year. Sounds suspiciously like burn out of an extreme nature. Sad.
Quote from: Da6s on July 20, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: MMIX on July 20, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
Ima blame that Limbaugh feller
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/07/limbaugh-new-batman-film-anti-romney-conspiracy
whipping up those fans of his to a frenzy :roll:
tl/ccl Batman Lights Up as Rush calls it is an anti-Romney conspiracy because the big bad is called Bane ; you know, like Bain Capital . . .
/words fail me
You clearly haven't read my Or Kill Me post from earlier this evening.
I read it. And yeah, very possibly contrived.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 20, 2012, 05:26:17 PM
MOVIE THEATER SECURITY! X-RAY OR PAT DOWN, YOUR CHOICE. ZERO TOLERANCE! LOOK AT YOUR CHILD WITH HIS LITTLE BATMAN CUP - DO YOU WANT HIM SHOT? THIS IS FOR YOUR SAFETY, YOUR CHILDREN'S SAFETY, FREEDOM(TM), AND AMERICA!
...and as one may expect in a world full of trained monkeys, my facebook page reeks of unjustified panic.
-At least two "OMG, PLEASE EVERYONE TELL ME YOU'RE ALRIGHT!!!" posts
(bearing in mind that I'm from Fort Collins, about 60 miles north-north-west of Aurora...I have never known a single person that has gone to Aurora for a movie...and I'm guessing neither have either of the people who are panicking that one of their friends from 60 miles north-north-west of the incident may be hurt).
-Countless "OMG, WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN SAFE TO GO TO A MOVIE ANYMORE???" posts.
Cause, you know, this is a brand new thing and nothing like that has ever happened before at a screening of Boys in the Hood...or Columbine...or Virginia Tech...or a Chuck-E-Cheese...or a cafeteria in Texas...or...or...or.
Panic...forget like the last, oh, FOREVER of human history and boom, WE MUST HAZ MOAR LAWS!!!!!
Yeah. I popped over to facebook for a minute and said "fuck it" until later when I get a few beers in me. :x
The shooter is Iranian meme is currently making its rounds on the nutjob mailing lists. Looking for conformation from more reputable sources.
Clearly, this happened because of not enough Jesus.
http://veracitystew.com/2012/07/20/obscene-gohmert-says-colorado-shooting-attack-on-judeo-christian-beliefs/#.UAmKCyRRvTI.facebook
Im interested in what the killers motivation was.
He rigged a whole bunch of explosives that never went off, and he timed the shooting with a gunfight in the movie to maximize victims so Im guessing he isnt the Jared Loughner kind of crazy.
I've got a ribbon sighting.* We are now going from tragedy to ribbon in under 24 hours.
2012 FTW!
*Colorado flag, fashioned into a ribbon with comic book Batman silhouette standing in front of it. Very tasteful
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 20, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
I've got a ribbon sighting.* We are now going from tragedy to ribbon in under 24 hours.
2012 FTW!
*Colorado flag, fashioned into a ribbon with comic book Batman silhouette standing in front of it. Very tasteful
I admit a morbid anticipation of really surreal and tacky Batman memorial stuff.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 20, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 20, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
I've got a ribbon sighting.* We are now going from tragedy to ribbon in under 24 hours.
2012 FTW!
*Colorado flag, fashioned into a ribbon with comic book Batman silhouette standing in front of it. Very tasteful
I admit a morbid anticipation of really surreal and tacky Batman memorial stuff.
Then you'll love this:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/314704_10151957418490083_1749607771_n.jpg (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/314704_10151957418490083_1749607771_n.jpg)
...and then:
QuoteRiddle me this? How was law enforcement able to be on scene in less than 2 minutes? Miracle? Maybe, but unlikely. Problem is we will never really know and my guess is they knew something was going to happen.
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 20, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 20, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 20, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
I've got a ribbon sighting.* We are now going from tragedy to ribbon in under 24 hours.
2012 FTW!
*Colorado flag, fashioned into a ribbon with comic book Batman silhouette standing in front of it. Very tasteful
I admit a morbid anticipation of really surreal and tacky Batman memorial stuff.
Then you'll love this:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/314704_10151957418490083_1749607771_n.jpg (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/314704_10151957418490083_1749607771_n.jpg)
Oh wow.
*twitch*
I only wish I had a big enough foot to put in all these peoples collective asses at once.
Glittersnatch, you know what you have to do. BATMAN PR0N FANFIC.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 20, 2012, 10:18:15 PM
I only wish I had a big enough foot to put in all these peoples collective asses at once.
Glittersnatch, you know what you have to do. BATMAN PR0N FANFIC.
BATMAN MASS SNUFF PR0N FANFIC :horrormirth:
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 20, 2012, 10:18:15 PM
I only wish I had a big enough foot to put in all these peoples collective asses at once.
Glittersnatch, you know what you have to do. BATMAN PR0N FANFIC.
I can point you in the direction of the issue of Nightwing where he gets raped if that helps.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 20, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on July 20, 2012, 10:18:15 PM
I only wish I had a big enough foot to put in all these peoples collective asses at once.
Glittersnatch, you know what you have to do. BATMAN PR0N FANFIC.
I can point you in the direction of the issue of Nightwing where he gets raped if that helps.
OK. But still needs snuff and POOMP.
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 20, 2012, 08:35:48 PM
Im interested in what the killers motivation was.
He rigged a whole bunch of explosives that never went off, and he timed the shooting with a gunfight in the movie to maximize victims so Im guessing he isnt the Jared Loughner kind of crazy.
My theory is that he wanted to be a Batman Villain.
Quote from: Emo Howard on July 21, 2012, 12:20:21 AM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 20, 2012, 08:35:48 PM
Im interested in what the killers motivation was.
He rigged a whole bunch of explosives that never went off, and he timed the shooting with a gunfight in the movie to maximize victims so Im guessing he isnt the Jared Loughner kind of crazy.
My theory is that he wanted to be a Batman Villain.
My theory is that he wanted to create a real life Batman.
The shooter apparently identified himself as "Joker."
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12850048-man-calling-himself-joker-kills-12-injures-58-at-batman-screening-in-aurora-colorado-authorities-say?chromedomain=todayentertainment&lite
He also set up his apartment as a deathtrap for the cops (and warned them about it before they got there).
http://jezebel.com/5927807/republican-congressman-says-theater-shooting-couldve-been-prevented-with-guns--jesus
I threw up in my mouth, a little.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html
Maybe he was HyPnOtIzEd! I don't even know...
Yeah or he was a confused sociopath.
I'm thinking mental breakdown.
Quote from: MMMW on July 21, 2012, 04:02:49 AM
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html
Maybe he was HyPnOtIzEd! I don't even know...
Natural News is pretty much FOX for lefties, but this does bring up an interesting point: Where/how did he get all the tactical stuff?
Well, given that he surrendered without a fight, and was wearing body armor, it's clear that part of his aim was to get attention, and attention that he would be alive to relish in. Which of course, the news media being what it is, he is going to get in spades.
Certainly, this is a newsworthy event, but the one thing the news media could do right now is button up, stick to the facts, and keep the armchair-psychology and all other tangents off the goddamned TV. It's what he wants. You want to punish the cowardly prick, SHUT UP!.
Fucking hell.
http://gawker.com/5927974
QuoteYou can't have a national tragedy without at least one religious zealot crawling out of the woodwork and spouting off about the downfall of America. And lo, American Family Association news director Fred Jackson is up to the task.
On his horrifying radio show AFA Today, Jackson explained how this country has gone to shit — and why that made James Holmes open fire on a crowded theater.
QuoteIn the community there were community standards that reflected biblical principles, whether people knew it or not, the standard in the community was based on Scripture. In that short period of time, roughly forty years, we have seen such a transformation in values in our communities, whether it's rural or whether it's big city. I have to think that all of this, whether it's the Hollywood movies, whether it's what we see on the internets, whether it's liberal bias in the media, whether it's our politicians changing public policy, I think all of those somehow have fit together — and I have to say also churches who are leaving the authority of Scripture and losing their fear of God — all of those things have seem to have come together to give us these kinds of incidents.
You know a statement is shocking when the unironic use of "internets" is the mildest offense.
It gets worse, naturally.
So, the immediate news reports kept going on about how he dyed his hair bright red and referred to himself as the Joker.
Those two details were always placed next to each other. Bright red hair, called himself the Joker.
Bright red hair, the Joker.
...The Joker has always had green hair. I don't know why that, in the middle of all this death and Fear™, that in particular bothered me, but there you go.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 23, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
So, the immediate news reports kept going on about how he dyed his hair bright red and referred to himself as the Joker.
Those two details were always placed next to each other. Bright red hair, called himself the Joker.
Bright red hair, the Joker.
...The Joker has always had green hair. I don't know why that, in the middle of all this death and Fear™, that in particular bothered me, but there you go.
Because it's not fear, it's loathing. You are in no immediate danger, after all.
And I can see how you might loathe that sort of inaccuracy just as much.
Yeah, I guess it sort of punctuated my revulsion of the 24-hour news cycle in times like this. Nothing new happens, but the reporters start cannibalizing each other.
If that was the case he also chose the wrong film to shoot up, he should have been at the mask of zorro.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 23, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
Yeah, I guess it sort of punctuated my revulsion of the 24-hour news cycle in times like this. Nothing new happens, but the reporters start cannibalizing each other.
They all need to have a nice, hefty glass of SHUT UP!
I was reading in some news article where the Governor of Colorado is making a point to say that he isn't going to use his name in any public or private comments. Just call him Suspect A or something like that. Because, of course, nobody is going to know who the fuck he's talking about right? Fucking dumbass!
The guy went to a high-profile event and created a high-profile event, at which he quickly surrendered without a fight.
That's right News Media, he did that FOR YOU! So he could be alive to read and hear you guys talk about him and what he did. He is still alive because he wants YOU as his accomplice, and there you are, good on you, doing his bidding.
You want to do the right thing? SHUT UP! Go cover all of the kids who aren't in school and on the streets starving, in the United States of America. I guarantee you at least 12 or 14, probably more, are going to die this year. Go cover that atrocity that is being fueled by your goddamned government.
I don't care what fucking douche's hair color was. just SHUT UP!
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 23, 2012, 02:21:45 PM
So, the immediate news reports kept going on about how he dyed his hair bright red and referred to himself as the Joker.
Those two details were always placed next to each other. Bright red hair, called himself the Joker.
Bright red hair, the Joker.
...The Joker has always had green hair. I don't know why that, in the middle of all this death and Fear™, that in particular bothered me, but there you go.
It strikes me as a kind of implied transference of blame. It was
Hollywood's fault he did what he did.
Facebook scuttlebutt. Everything defaults to Jack Ruby:
QuoteJust waiting for Jack Ruby's doppelganger to seal it up.
QuoteMy dad worked as an expert witness with a member of McVeigh's defense team who said he's never dealt with a client that so actively defeated his own defense. This dude wears more high end body armor than SWAT teams use, shoots some people with indifferent accuracy, and then meekly surrenders to police? Why the body armor, then? SWAT teams generally don't do the lower body and groin armor or helmets. Smells funny from the start and now the judge has sealed the case from public scrutiny?
QuoteI think this is an actor, not the shooter. There were more than one people involved but we all know thats all we will hear about it. Now we'll see drawings of this actor in court and proby another fake execution like Mcvieghs. Timmay didnt fight because it's all theater.
QuoteNo joking about the fact that McVeigh's team said they never had somebody so actively defeat their own defense in decades of law. I'm just waiting for the Jack Ruby...
QuotePolice fired crowd control bags and released a K9 on some people that wanted to confront them on shooting a guy in Cali yesterday. The lady the dog attacked was holding a baby. We are under marshal law now. The shooters in Col may have been cops too for all we know. Sure had the correct gear. I can think of no better reason to build a fire at a crime scene. Maybe they just wanted some smores?
That last one is completely true, and not at all funny. The worst part is that the next night when the cops decided to shoot a cuffed suspect, they just shined lights at the witnesses with cameras so they couldn't film it.
Quote from: Gen. Disregard on July 23, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 23, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
Yeah, I guess it sort of punctuated my revulsion of the 24-hour news cycle in times like this. Nothing new happens, but the reporters start cannibalizing each other.
They all need to have a nice, hefty glass of SHUT UP!
I was reading in some news article where the Governor of Colorado is making a point to say that he isn't going to use his name in any public or private comments. Just call him Suspect A or something like that. Because, of course, nobody is going to know who the fuck he's talking about right? Fucking dumbass!
The guy went to a high-profile event and created a high-profile event, at which he quickly surrendered without a fight.
That's right News Media, he did that FOR YOU! So he could be alive to read and hear you guys talk about him and what he did. He is still alive because he wants YOU as his accomplice, and there you are, good on you, doing his bidding.
You want to do the right thing? SHUT UP! Go cover all of the kids who aren't in school and on the streets starving, in the United States of America. I guarantee you at least 12 or 14, probably more, are going to die this year. Go cover that atrocity that is being fueled by your goddamned government.
I don't care what fucking douche's hair color was. just SHUT UP!
The media loves a mass murder, especially if the mass murderer survives. All of a sudden, they have easy access to front page material for months! LOOK AT HIS COMFY PRISON CELL, FAMOUS CELEBRITY MET THE KILLER ONCE, HE ENJOYED THIS AND THAT, etc.
That way you can do journalism without digging deep into anything other than one universally despised person's private life. Critical, investigative journalism demands sacrifices today's journalists aren't willing to make and resources they don't have.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 23, 2012, 03:51:33 PM
That last one is completely true, and not at all funny. The worst part is that the next night when the cops decided to shoot a cuffed suspect, they just shined lights at the witnesses with cameras so they couldn't film it.
Too much shit like that going on. Can't blame people a bit for being suspicious.
More facebook:
QuotePresto! Instant family and of course no photos. Thanks ABC we knew you could do it. Damage control turned up to 11. It's gonna be an interesting week. It makes me feel a little better knowing most people are beyond this type of psychological warfare.
http://news.yahoo.com/aurora-suspect-james-holmess-familys-painful-emotional-hurdles-223115000--abc-news-health.html
Quote from: Lenin/McCarthy on July 23, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Gen. Disregard on July 23, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 23, 2012, 02:33:18 PM
Yeah, I guess it sort of punctuated my revulsion of the 24-hour news cycle in times like this. Nothing new happens, but the reporters start cannibalizing each other.
They all need to have a nice, hefty glass of SHUT UP!
I was reading in some news article where the Governor of Colorado is making a point to say that he isn't going to use his name in any public or private comments. Just call him Suspect A or something like that. Because, of course, nobody is going to know who the fuck he's talking about right? Fucking dumbass!
The guy went to a high-profile event and created a high-profile event, at which he quickly surrendered without a fight.
That's right News Media, he did that FOR YOU! So he could be alive to read and hear you guys talk about him and what he did. He is still alive because he wants YOU as his accomplice, and there you are, good on you, doing his bidding.
You want to do the right thing? SHUT UP! Go cover all of the kids who aren't in school and on the streets starving, in the United States of America. I guarantee you at least 12 or 14, probably more, are going to die this year. Go cover that atrocity that is being fueled by your goddamned government.
I don't care what fucking douche's hair color was. just SHUT UP!
The media loves a mass murder, especially if the mass murderer survives. All of a sudden, they have easy access to front page material for months! LOOK AT HIS COMFY PRISON CELL, FAMOUS CELEBRITY MET THE KILLER ONCE, HE ENJOYED THIS AND THAT, etc.
That way you can do journalism without digging deep into anything other than one universally despised person's private life. Critical, investigative journalism demands sacrifices today's journalists aren't willing to make and resources they don't have.
Oh yea.
And you'll be able to buy those ribbons at all the upcoming showings of the movie.
You'll get a free one plus a card with all the shooter's "stats" on it with the Limited Edition DVD.
Perfect time to start running non-stop side stories recapping every detail about Columbine that we've heard and read a million times already as well, since they've already started bringing it up. Make a ribbon for that too, since I don't think they were as proliferate at the time.
The fact that tragedy = merchandising (well, just about anything=merchandising, but still) really sickens me. More than the event(s) themselves. Like seeing the "911 anniversary" coins (made with real metal from the buildings, for that extra morbid touch!) and "Hooray we killed Bin Laden" coins (complete with blueprints of his compound, the really really for reallness plan of action, and some other bullshit "memorabilia"). Makes me want to throw up in my mouth a little bit each time I see them advertised on TV
Relevant:
http://www.skilluminati.com/research/entry/5gwtf_the_post_everything_future_of_fifth_generation_warfare/
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 23, 2012, 10:26:43 PM
Relevant:
http://www.skilluminati.com/research/entry/5gwtf_the_post_everything_future_of_fifth_generation_warfare/
That article made a SHIT TON of good points.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 24, 2012, 01:15:19 AM
Quote from: Prince Glittersnatch III on July 23, 2012, 10:26:43 PM
Relevant:
http://www.skilluminati.com/research/entry/5gwtf_the_post_everything_future_of_fifth_generation_warfare/
That article made a SHIT TON of good points.
Nice find Glitter Snatch.
Also, I can't wait until next black friday. Will this be long forgotten by then, only to be remembered then?
Christian Bale (on his own, not due to movie producer prompting) visited the survivors of the shooting and a memorial for the victims.
Well done, sir.
If this kind of thing continues we will be having nutjobs commandeering nuclear submarines wearing orange jumpers and extremely tight and gay blue hotpants claiming to be aquaman.
Quote from: Luna on July 25, 2012, 12:38:40 PM
Christian Bale (on his own, not due to movie producer prompting) visited the survivors of the shooting and a memorial for the victims.
Well done, sir.
I knew there was something I liked about him. Chirstian Bale is the shit.
I'm going to go out on a limb and blame Boyd Rice :evil: