So, odds are that someone here is a Federal agent. You know it's true.
ITT, we discuss who we think it is, and why.
GO!
either a lurker or someone that promotes radical posturings towards action, a kind of "inctiting agent", or even perhaps one of the "crazies" that ramble incoherent postures and see if it gains momentum or resonance
but why do you think PD is worth their time? (other than living in a police state that throws money down the drain in entrapment practices and provocateur tactics)
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on July 22, 2012, 06:10:02 PM
either a lurker or someone that promotes radical posturings towards action, a kind of "inctiting agent", or even perhaps one of the "crazies" that ramble incoherent postures and see if it gains momentum or resonance
but why do you think PD is worth their time? (other than living in a police state that throws money down the drain in entrapment practices and provocateur tactics)
:lulz: Dude, you answered your own question.
Every little activist cell here has their own agent, sometimes two, plus they recruit civilians via their "citizen's academy" so that assholes who need to feel important can be agitating dickwads without the FBI having to pay them. If you've ever wondered at the klutzy unprofessionalism of agent provocateurs, that's usually why.
But back to the topic at hand: according to the rules of the game, it's not a lurker.
copy pasta trolls probably arent...
i think there was some airforce guy, but he had a weird approach, in like, "i should be on medication or in therapy", which to me, amounts to either being bored, or real issues bleeding into the provocateur role, or an easy backpedalling from badly received discourse.
so anyways, i dont think they use "sleeper" or lurker type of approach, because thats too passive, i mean, im assuming they are paid to entrap or provoke, therefore....
they would probably be active in O:MF or GASM...
maybe im a bit out of the loop, but there havent been any recent "calls to action", it all revolves at most about political posturings and their discussion, but none of "X is happening, we should do Y"
ALTHOUGHT there was a call to regroup HIMEOBS, but i cannot remember who and where said it
Oooohhh.
A few possibilities: ECH. For obvious reasons.
BabylonHoruv. As a largely non-entity at this point, perhaps that was the plan from the beginning.
Coyote. Why not use active duty military personnel? And yes, Coyote, I know that you are no longer active. :lulz:
Richter. I MEAN COME ON. HE'S TOO GODDAMN PERFECT.
Triple Zero. I don't buy his whole Belgian act.
Joh'nyx. See post ITT. That's just what they WANT us to think.
Freeky. Proximity to Roger. Of course they'd want their eyes on HIM.
Nast. He's so damn sweet he hurts my teeth, and his conspicuous absence makes me wonder.
Alty. But ONLY if he's gone rogue. They stationed him in Alaska as some weird form of punishment, and so to get back in their good graces he's taken it upon himself to dig dirt on us.
Nigel. Suggesting this idea to get us all paranoid and at each others throats, but framing it as a "game" so that if it fails to work, she can also claimthat she was not actually serious, and her cover is intact. (I'm on to you....)
Suu, Remington, Mourning Star, Luna, or anyone who's recently returned from a long hiatus. When the board is dead, no need for them to watch every post, but since activity's been picking back up....
People who it is obviously not:
Roger and Cramulus: Popular, charismatic, ability to become leaders. If either were a Fed they would have made a play for power long ago. Too obvious. (Unless THAT'S what they want us to think....)
RWHN: Unless he's really, really bad at this.
Twid: The FBI still has that "No Irish Need Apply" sign.
must be Faust :magick:
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on July 22, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
must be Faust :magick:
See Twid.
ALTHOUGH, since he's Greek as well....
Or, Waffle Iron.
WAY TOO COOL TO BE AN ACTUAL PERSON! :argh!:
Phoxxy, because she's naming names!
It's always the person who's trying to incite other people to do things. Entrapment purposes.
And there's always a beard or some other big chunk of facial hair they can remove and totally change their appearance.
Cram: was definitely one of Them. He's not gone, he's de-briefing.
I was thinking about the incitement thing, because nobody really does that. HOWEVER, if they are even a half-decent agent unlike the obvious and super-shitty ones who get assigned to local anarchist and activist groups, they would have caught on early that people who agitate for illegal activities get shouted down really fast here, and would be playing it more low-key.
It's got to be a regular, who has been here consistently, participating, for a long time. I almost agree that it's probably not a charismatic leader type, because no way would the fed waste a charismatic leader on an internet forum... not unless it was a really important internet forum, and I think it would be venturing into delusions of grandeur to assume ourselves that. It's not ECH, because he owns the forum. It's not Faust or Payne or or Cain or Waffle or Tripzip, because they live in Belgium.
Maybe... oh god, maybe it's Hirley0!
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 22, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
Phoxxy, because she's naming names!
GARBO, because she calls herself "Secret Agent". Nice job throwing us off your scent!
Clearly it's not Faust because he is the Batman.
Clearly it's not me because I don't have the heath benefits.
Quote from: Alty on July 22, 2012, 07:26:49 PM
Clearly it's not Faust because he is the Batman.
Clearly it's not me because I don't have the heath benefits.
Hm, yes, that kind of rules out Net as well.
UNLESS YOU'RE BOTH FAKING IT.
I would suspect E.O.T. if it weren't for his chronic lack of having a computer.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 22, 2012, 07:21:26 PM
I was thinking about the incitement thing, because nobody really does that. HOWEVER, if they are even a half-decent agent unlike the obvious and super-shitty ones who get assigned to local anarchist and activist groups, they would have caught on early that people who agitate for illegal activities get shouted down really fast here, and would be playing it more low-key.
It's got to be a regular, who has been here consistently, participating, for a long time. I almost agree that it's probably not a charismatic leader type, because no way would the fed waste a charismatic leader on an internet forum... not unless it was a really important internet forum, and I think it would be venturing into delusions of grandeur to assume ourselves that. It's not ECH, because he owns the forum. It's not Faust or Payne or or Cain or Waffle or Tripzip, because they live in Belgium.
Maybe... oh god, maybe it's Hirley0!
Maybe.
Or GIGGLES. You only THINK he's posting that stuff to gross people out.
I'm not a fed, but I am still waiting/hoping to be recruited to the illuminati.
:lulz:
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 22, 2012, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 22, 2012, 06:57:28 PM
Phoxxy, because she's naming names!
GARBO, because she calls herself "Secret Agent". Nice job throwing us off your scent!
I knew that was going to bite me in the ass!
I would like to pount out that its possible my irishness is a character that im playing. Hell does anyone even have any proof im bostonian?
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 22, 2012, 11:00:59 PM
I would like to pount out that its possible my irishness is a character that im playing. Hell does anyone even have any proof im bostonian?
OFFERING yourself as a possibility... is it a ploy to throw us off the scent? Because surely, we would never expect the real Fed to finger himself, right?
REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY! IT'S TWID!
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 22, 2012, 05:14:29 PM
So, odds are that someone here is a Federal agent. You know it's true.
ITT, we discuss who we think it is, and why.
GO!
Well, I know it's not me, because they don't hire dead people.
And I know it's not you, because you have been in a state of armed rebellion since you were born.
I know it's not ECH, on account of he works for geeks.
I know it's not Johnny, because he's Mexican.
I know it's not Remmy, because he's a communist.
Ergo, it is Garbo.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 22, 2012, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 22, 2012, 05:14:29 PM
So, odds are that someone here is a Federal agent. You know it's true.
ITT, we discuss who we think it is, and why.
GO!
Well, I know it's not me, because they don't hire dead people.
And I know it's not you, because you have been in a state of armed rebellion since you were born.
I know it's not ECH, on account of he works for geeks.
I know it's not Johnny, because he's Mexican.
I know it's not Remmy, because he's a communist.
Ergo, it is Garbo.
RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN THIS WHOLE TIME!
Well, you caught me. :lulz:
Excuse me while I report my failure to my superiors.
Garbo,
--about to be re-assigned to watching Peace Fresno again
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 23, 2012, 03:22:01 AM
Excuse me while I report my failure to my superiors.
Garbo,
--about to be re-assigned to watching Peace Fresno again
You might have better luck if you DON'T introduce yourself "HI, I'm Secret Agent GARBO and I work for the FBI!!" this time.
Akk, as didn't someone find his ip at facebook hq
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 23, 2012, 03:28:05 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 23, 2012, 03:22:01 AM
Excuse me while I report my failure to my superiors.
Garbo,
--about to be re-assigned to watching Peace Fresno again
You might have better luck if you DON'T introduce yourself "HI, I'm Secret Agent GARBO and I work for the FBI!!" this time.
She's only taking the fall, since it was said in the OP that there may be.... errr.... Yep. Totally Garbo and Garbo only.
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 23, 2012, 06:23:29 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 23, 2012, 03:28:05 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 23, 2012, 03:22:01 AM
Excuse me while I report my failure to my superiors.
Garbo,
--about to be re-assigned to watching Peace Fresno again
You might have better luck if you DON'T introduce yourself "HI, I'm Secret Agent GARBO and I work for the FBI!!" this time.
She's only taking the fall, since it was said in the OP that there may be.... errr.... Yep. Totally Garbo and Garbo only.
WHAT
I SMELL A RAT
It would go something like this
Quote from: aron23 on July 23, 2012, 07:12:59 AM
[...] but I still want to help instill anarchist values the in cognition of the masses.
how do you suggest I proceed?
the problem is that its pretty much the same as outlandish teenager
Well, I'm not one but I'm good friends with one, does that count?
Quote from: Phox, Mistress of Many Names on July 22, 2012, 06:40:34 PM
Oooohhh.
A few possibilities: ECH. For obvious reasons.
BabylonHoruv. As a largely non-entity at this point, perhaps that was the plan from the beginning.
Coyote. Why not use active duty military personnel? And yes, Coyote, I know that you are no longer active. :lulz:
Richter. I MEAN COME ON. HE'S TOO GODDAMN PERFECT.
Triple Zero. I don't buy his whole Belgian act.
Joh'nyx. See post ITT. That's just what they WANT us to think.
Freeky. Proximity to Roger. Of course they'd want their eyes on HIM.
Nast. He's so damn sweet he hurts my teeth, and his conspicuous absence makes me wonder.
Alty. But ONLY if he's gone rogue. They stationed him in Alaska as some weird form of punishment, and so to get back in their good graces he's taken it upon himself to dig dirt on us.
Nigel. Suggesting this idea to get us all paranoid and at each others throats, but framing it as a "game" so that if it fails to work, she can also claimthat she was not actually serious, and her cover is intact. (I'm on to you....)
Suu, Remington, Mourning Star, Luna, or anyone who's recently returned from a long hiatus. When the board is dead, no need for them to watch every post, but since activity's been picking back up....
People who it is obviously not:
Roger and Cramulus: Popular, charismatic, ability to become leaders. If either were a Fed they would have made a play for power long ago. Too obvious. (Unless THAT'S what they want us to think....)
RWHN: Unless he's really, really bad at this.
Twid: The FBI still has that "No Irish Need Apply" sign.
Considering it's usually the person you'd never even consider, it's undoubtedly either me or Cain.
And it's not Cain.
It's Mang! I've always suspected that the nose was really a bug.
I can't wait for the movie treatment. AGENT OF CHAOS: An uptight Federal agent is assigned to infiltrate a group of wacky scalawags, who over time touch his heart and show him that life isn't just about following the rules!
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 23, 2012, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: Phox, Mistress of Many Names on July 22, 2012, 06:40:34 PM
Oooohhh.
A few possibilities: ECH. For obvious reasons.
BabylonHoruv. As a largely non-entity at this point, perhaps that was the plan from the beginning.
Coyote. Why not use active duty military personnel? And yes, Coyote, I know that you are no longer active. :lulz:
Richter. I MEAN COME ON. HE'S TOO GODDAMN PERFECT.
Triple Zero. I don't buy his whole Belgian act.
Joh'nyx. See post ITT. That's just what they WANT us to think.
Freeky. Proximity to Roger. Of course they'd want their eyes on HIM.
Nast. He's so damn sweet he hurts my teeth, and his conspicuous absence makes me wonder.
Alty. But ONLY if he's gone rogue. They stationed him in Alaska as some weird form of punishment, and so to get back in their good graces he's taken it upon himself to dig dirt on us.
Nigel. Suggesting this idea to get us all paranoid and at each others throats, but framing it as a "game" so that if it fails to work, she can also claimthat she was not actually serious, and her cover is intact. (I'm on to you....)
Suu, Remington, Mourning Star, Luna, or anyone who's recently returned from a long hiatus. When the board is dead, no need for them to watch every post, but since activity's been picking back up....
People who it is obviously not:
Roger and Cramulus: Popular, charismatic, ability to become leaders. If either were a Fed they would have made a play for power long ago. Too obvious. (Unless THAT'S what they want us to think....)
RWHN: Unless he's really, really bad at this.
Twid: The FBI still has that "No Irish Need Apply" sign.
Considering it's usually the person you'd never even consider, it's undoubtedly either me or Cain.
And it's not Cain.
I considered you, but the phone rang and I ended up not posting. :p
LMNO: Upstanding member of the community? Check.
Long-term contributor? Check.
Instigator? Hmmmm. Not so much, really.
I'm on the fence with this one.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 23, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
LMNO: Upstanding member of the community? Check.
Long-term contributor? Check.
Instigator? Hmmmm. Not so much, really.
I'm on the fence with this one.
Also, what I like to call the "Spiders" defense. Pretend to be a spider, so that no one believes you are actually a spider. Except that you are. But you're really not. Or are you... HOW MANY LAYERS DOES IT GO, LMNO?
It's nothing but Spiders, all the way down.