A bit far fetched i know but i just had a stroke of inspiration just now.
Jupiter, one of our gas giants has a truly immense gravitational pull, if we coult utilize this pull by setting up kinetic power generators around the planet that produce enery by making the components spin pulled by gravity and by stabilizing the position of generators surrounding it in a complex pattern that connects every one of these to a command module in which energy can be harvested and sent home using a space station to help manned shuttles/unmanned shuttles to navigate there.
This is way ahead of modern space capabilities but a thought no less.
Ive made a simple diagram to explain what im babbling about.
_
( _ ) (Jupiter/planet)
o (Gravitational kinetic generator)
/
0 (Command module with about 67000 monitoring the entire planet in a single tidy full circle all at level height give or take , roughly 3600 GKG per command module with 10 large energy storage cells per GKG)
[-[]-] (space station halfway to earth likely not manned on a parralel course that may help give navigational data)
_
(_) (earth, where unmanned or manned shuttles in stasis come and go at a constant flowing rate to each individual or group of command modules.)
In short a gravity machine in space around jupiter that sends power to another machine to be put in big batteries and shipped back to earth
I ate vindaloo last night.
My ass is on fire.
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?
By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.
Im still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel souces attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
MY ASS! OH MY GOD MY ASS!
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
I ate vindaloo last night.
My ass is on fire.
That's nice.
Yes, my ass IS rather nice.
Im a skinny sonofagun, i don't hardly have a ass.
You're fucked forever.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
I ate vindaloo last night.
My ass is on fire.
That's nice.
Yes, my ass IS rather nice.
Im a skinny sonofagun, i don't hardly have a ass.
You're fucked forever.
Apparently having no ass or a reduced ass is a sign of powerful thrusting.
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
I ate vindaloo last night.
My ass is on fire.
That's nice.
Yes, my ass IS rather nice.
Im a skinny sonofagun, i don't hardly have a ass.
You're fucked forever.
Apparently having no ass or a reduced ass is a sign of powerful thrusting.
ISAAC NEWTON SAYS YOU'RE A RETARD. MORE ASS = MORE MASS = MORE POWER.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
I ate vindaloo last night.
My ass is on fire.
That's nice.
Yes, my ass IS rather nice.
Im a skinny sonofagun, i don't hardly have a ass.
You're fucked forever.
Apparently having no ass or a reduced ass is a sign of powerful thrusting.
ISAAC NEWTON SAYS YOU'RE A RETARD. MORE ASS = MORE MASS = MORE POWER.
Dont make me build my gravitational shit round your fat mamma!
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?
By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.
Im still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel souces attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
Yeah I kind of expected this response.
The idea was posed to attempt this back in the sixties. The reason no one has ever gone with it is because it requires those to be tethered to the earth.
Keeping something in a geostationary orbit while tethered to the earth is nigh on impossible.
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?
By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.
Im still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel souces attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
Yeah I kind of expected this response.
The idea was posed to attempt this back in the sixties. The reason no one has ever gone with it is because it requires those to be tethered to the earth.
Keeping something in a geostationary orbit while tethered to the earth is nigh on impossible.
Id keep the command modules remaining constant around jupiter with the GKG tethered to them by something like diamond reinforced nanotubes or some shit like that.
IT WOULD TOTALLY WORK IF WE HAD THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST.
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?
By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.
I'm still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel sources attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
Yeah I kind of expected this response.
The idea was posed to attempt this back in the sixties. The reason no one has ever gone with it is because it requires those to be tethered to the earth.
Keeping something in a geostationary orbit while tethered to the earth is nigh on impossible.
Id keep the command modules remaining constant around Jupiter with the GKG tethered to them by something like diamond reinforced nanotubes or some shit like that.
Diamond? Lad, nanotubes are carbon based, they are ultra hard because of this, check what diamond composed of. Also if you can get a carbon nanotube tether that long enough to do that you would have already solved the resource/energy issue.
Then there is getting power back from Jupiter to earth, you cant just ship it in a box.
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 03:13:33 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 02:46:24 PM
How do you turn only the dynamo and not the shaft it's attached to without it also moving with the gravitational force?
By having a opposite force to pull away from the gravity and a similar rate so it remains constant.
I'm still thinking about how to resolve that dilemma. Fuel sources attached to engines is a idea but it may be inefficient as it may either require constant refueling or sacrificing a quantity of the energy generated.
Yeah I kind of expected this response.
The idea was posed to attempt this back in the sixties. The reason no one has ever gone with it is because it requires those to be tethered to the earth.
Keeping something in a geostationary orbit while tethered to the earth is nigh on impossible.
Id keep the command modules remaining constant around Jupiter with the GKG tethered to them by something like diamond reinforced nanotubes or some shit like that.
Diamond? Lad, nanotubes are carbon based, they are ultra hard because of this, check what diamond composed of. Also if you can get a carbon nanotube tether that long enough to do that you would have already solved the resource/energy issue.
Then there is getting power back from Jupiter to earth, you cant just ship it in a box.
Diamonds are also made out of carbon, since this kind of technology is far away I'm sure there would be a way to improve technology enough to fuse together nanotubes and diamonds even if they are microscopic shards so that they are strong enough. You could always have very long chain like structures to tether it using as minimal resources as possible by making it very strong and very thin even at spider thread length or thinner.
If you properly observed my diagram you would see the space station used for navigation with coordinates for every single generator or piece of equipment which is also monitored by ground control, to prevent any kind of automated error the spaceshuttles which would go up there to collect the energy cells roughly taking a good few years on each go would be manned by professionals held in a state of statis hopefully bring back enough energy in total to power tenfold the world demand of the amount of time it took them to get ready and go there. In a clean and efficient manner of course.
You don't seem to understand, Carbon nanotubes are as hard as diamond, there is no reinforcing them, they are the same material.
also if we were to solve the energy storage problem to have something so efficient we would only need to charge it every few years we would have a battery so good we could charge it off fossil fuels for a day or two and have plenty to go with, space be damned. As it stands we generate shit loads of electricity, the majority of it is wasted, we have no way to store it well.
As to your "diagram", I can't make head nor tail of it.
Just read the bits at the sides.
OK i acknowledge the fact that nanotubes are the same thing, and that just the battery would be more useful than what I'm talking about, but my idea industrializes space and considering that human demands are increasing all the time and fossil fuels will run out one day, it means we can run a shitload of electricity at no environmental cost by disowning carbon emissions and putting all power plants offplanet into one highly managed supersystem clean powerplant.
I'm no scientist but i think its a pretty damn good idea. I may even patent it.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 25, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
IT WOULD TOTALLY WORK IF WE HAD THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST.
THAT'S HOW I BUILT MY ASS CANNON.
*Chains moon to the earth*
*Moon immediately starts bouncing off of the planet endlessly*
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 04:35:25 PM
*Chains moon to the earth*
*Moon immediately starts bouncing off of the planet endlessly*
Brilliant, now we can finally destroy france.
France is awesome.
Also i have an idea about perpetual motion engines for cars by facing the north pole of a magnet against another north pole of another magnet. We should build this together tb.
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on July 25, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
France is awesome.
Also i have an idea about perpetual motion engines for cars by facing the north pole of a magnet against another north pole of another magnet. We should build this together tb.
Make your own thread instead of hijacking mine.
Jerk.
I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT HARNESSING STATIC ELECTRICITY AND USING IT TO POWER TRAINS.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 25, 2012, 06:04:49 PM
I HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT HARNESSING STATIC ELECTRICITY AND USING IT TO POWER TRAINS.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA WHY NOT WHILE WE ARE AT IT MAKE A CAR ENGINE THAT RUNS ON PETROL!
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 03:01:40 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
Quote from: Trollbear on July 25, 2012, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 25, 2012, 02:42:09 PM
I ate vindaloo last night.
My ass is on fire.
That's nice.
Yes, my ass IS rather nice.
Im a skinny sonofagun, i don't hardly have a ass.
You're fucked forever.
Apparently having no ass or a reduced ass is a sign of powerful thrusting.
ISAAC NEWTON SAYS YOU'RE A RETARD. MORE ASS = MORE MASS = MORE POWER.
Dont make me build my gravitational shit round your fat mamma!
Roger's mother is a terrifying woman. Do never test Roger's mom. :scared:
THE IDEA PROPOSED IN THE O.P. IS PREPOSTEROUS. Mostly, this is because of physics, with a goodly portion of its impossibility being attributable to logistics. I say this not because I am a brilliant physicist, or because I have mastered all the myriad arguments against this idea, but because if such a thing were possible, Congress would have prohibited it by now.
Quote from: v3x on July 25, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
THE IDEA PROPOSED IN THE O.P. IS PREPOSTEROUS. Mostly, this is because of physics, with a goodly portion of its impossibility being attributable to logistics. I say this not because I am a brilliant physicist, or because I have mastered all the myriad arguments against this idea, but because if such a thing were possible, Congress would have prohibited it by now.
Nothing would get done if people just said that something no matter how blatent was impossible.
Tell that to the revolutionary inventors, scientists and engineers who pushed the boundaries of what we know in the name of progress.
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
Nothing would get done if people just said that something no matter how blatent was impossible.
Blatantly what?
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Command module with about 67000 monitoring the entire planet
wut
Quote from: guryaf on July 25, 2012, 11:33:23 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
Command module with about 67000 monitoring the entire planet
wut
DON'T FIGHT THE STUPID, NEW GUY! YOU'LL GET BRAIN BUBBLES!
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: v3x on July 25, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
THE IDEA PROPOSED IN THE O.P. IS PREPOSTEROUS. Mostly, this is because of physics, with a goodly portion of its impossibility being attributable to logistics. I say this not because I am a brilliant physicist, or because I have mastered all the myriad arguments against this idea, but because if such a thing were possible, Congress would have prohibited it by now.
Nothing would get done if people just said that something no matter how blatent was impossible.
Tell that to the revolutionary inventors, scientists and engineers who pushed the boundaries of what we know in the name of progress.
Theres a lot to be said for setting your mind to a task. There is also the first step of inventors, scientists and engineers:
Researching the topic at hand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFUPB-cVozg
Quote from: Faust on July 25, 2012, 11:54:14 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 25, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
Quote from: v3x on July 25, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
THE IDEA PROPOSED IN THE O.P. IS PREPOSTEROUS. Mostly, this is because of physics, with a goodly portion of its impossibility being attributable to logistics. I say this not because I am a brilliant physicist, or because I have mastered all the myriad arguments against this idea, but because if such a thing were possible, Congress would have prohibited it by now.
Nothing would get done if people just said that something no matter how blatent was impossible.
Tell that to the revolutionary inventors, scientists and engineers who pushed the boundaries of what we know in the name of progress.
Theres a lot to be said for setting your mind to a task. There is also the first step of inventors, scientists and engineers:
Researching the topic at hand.
Never forget drunk science to help you do the impossible.
A summary of this thread so far:
(http://140.254.101.126/coglab/Pictures/miracle.gif)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 26, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
A summary of this thread so far:
(http://140.254.101.126/coglab/Pictures/miracle.gif)
Oddly enough that is a large actual factor of many scientific breakthroughs.
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 26, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
A summary of this thread so far:
(http://140.254.101.126/coglab/Pictures/miracle.gif)
Oddly enough that is a large actual factor of many scientific breakthroughs.
No.
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 26, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
A summary of this thread so far:
(http://140.254.101.126/coglab/Pictures/miracle.gif)
Oddly enough that is a large actual factor of many scientific breakthroughs.
No.
Sometimes you can't just make stuff happen.
You just have to put stuff together and see what the result is at the other end. Maybe all the results will be useless failure but once, maybe just once there will be abnormality and you will make a breakthrough.
Take the higgs boson particle in the large hadron collider, nobody thought it really existed and through what can only be called a miracle they actually found it.
Calling it a miracle is an insult to the people working on the project, the people who postulated it and the countless people involved in getting that hardware up to the point that it could be used in this field.
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
Calling it a miracle is an insult to the people working on the project, the people who postulated it and the countless people involved in getting that hardware up to the point that it could be used in this field.
Im sure there is a large majority of hard work and effort that goes into those projects but sometimes chance just plays a role.
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
Calling it a miracle is an insult to the people working on the project, the people who postulated it and the countless people involved in getting that hardware up to the point that it could be used in this field.
Im sure there is a large majority of hard work and effort that goes into those projects but sometimes chance just plays a role.
If you had said Luck I wouldn't have a problem with it. You said miracle.
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
Calling it a miracle is an insult to the people working on the project, the people who postulated it and the countless people involved in getting that hardware up to the point that it could be used in this field.
Im sure there is a large majority of hard work and effort that goes into those projects but sometimes chance just plays a role.
If you had said Luck I wouldn't have a problem with it. You said miracle.
Both the same thing, trust me i know from experience.
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
Calling it a miracle is an insult to the people working on the project, the people who postulated it and the countless people involved in getting that hardware up to the point that it could be used in this field.
Im sure there is a large majority of hard work and effort that goes into those projects but sometimes chance just plays a role.
If you had said Luck I wouldn't have a problem with it. You said miracle.
Both the same thing, trust me i know from experience.
*vomits*
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:47:20 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:41:16 PM
Quote from: Sir Bearington on July 26, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Faust on July 26, 2012, 04:38:34 PM
Calling it a miracle is an insult to the people working on the project, the people who postulated it and the countless people involved in getting that hardware up to the point that it could be used in this field.
Im sure there is a large majority of hard work and effort that goes into those projects but sometimes chance just plays a role.
If you had said Luck I wouldn't have a problem with it. You said miracle.
Both the same thing, trust me i know from experience.
*vomits*
When i get a stroke of luck i really do
GET ONE HELL OF A STROKE OF LUCK
SHUT UP.
Quote from: Signor Paesior on July 26, 2012, 11:59:54 PM
SHUT UP.
GO GET A BUCKET, IF YOU'RE GOING TO FEED THE TROLLS.
KTHXBYE.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 27, 2012, 12:01:54 AM
Quote from: Signor Paesior on July 26, 2012, 11:59:54 PM
SHUT UP.
GO GET A BUCKET, IF YOU'RE GOING TO FEED THE TROLLS.
KTHXBYE.
I feel like some farmyard animal at one of those petting zoo's