If you wanted to take an engineering survey on America (Europe, too, but I'm going to stick with what I know), you'd basically find that it is built on bones. In fact, it would look like a spiral staircase made of bones, with the foundation being the bones of Native Americans.
Above the Native Americans, you'd find a really thick layer of Blacks, with some Hispanics and Chinese here and there, and Native Americans continuing to appear in clumps. Sprinkled around, you'll even find the occasional White person who had the Wrong Values. At the very top, you'd find 12 year old factory workers from Bangladesh.
As a result, this future that we find ourselves in is a fragile thing, a feeble support that has no strength to it when the rumbles of history occasionally shake things up a bit. Our future in fact rests on institutionalized murder and other crimes that we refuse to acknowledge or even look at, in this bright & shiny future in which we have UNLIMITED DATA on our iPads and iPhones, and in which we drive our cars (powered by the bones of dinosaurs, etc) to and from our jobs and schools, pretending that we don't live in a mausoleum.
Sound depressing? If only it was. But we are a fat & happy people, who cheerfully ignore the crunching noises underneath our feet. That would be bad enough, but we are also always ready to add a fresh layer of bones to the stack, so that we may Rise Higher. Iraqis, more 3rd world slaves, people whom we have termed "illegal" (and thus don't count).
If you don't make us look too closely, it's a really nice place. The streets are paved with gold...Well, not entirely, but some of those bones may have wedding rings and gold fillings, I suppose. There's room for everyone here, too. Just find the right spot, a low spot in the foundation perhaps, and just lie down and settle in. Company will be along shortly, because this is America™, and nobody has to Be Alone.
And since America is a vibrant, growing nation, we send our kids to foreign countries to gather more bones. We're told, of course, that they are there defending liberty...But anyone who is paying attention knows that they are there to bring back the things that allow us to grow. Oil, minerals, whatever...It's all bones in the end, so that those who stay behind, wheezing on their mobility scooters, can make this country reach its true potential.
Right now, there's a "reality show" fad on the television about "hoarders". I haven't seen it, and I don't need to see it. I see it every day, I can feel it powdering under my boots. America™ has all it needs, all it will ever need...But we take that surplus and spend it on "defense", so that we can go get more bones.
Because, you see, our wars are not based on laughable things like "fighting terrorism" or "defending freedom", they're fought for the purpose of gathering building material. In any case, that is the end result, no matter how many "support the troops" stickers we place on the back of our vehicles, and no matter how many rallies and concerts we attend to "support" them. Sometimes, they come back all brain-bashed or minus limbs, etc...In which case, they've still brought the bones home, it's just that they brought their own, and we jam them under bridges to shore them up.
So let's hear it for the red, white, and blue. Red for the blood of "patriots", white for the stacks of bones, and blue for the color of corpses. And let's hear it for the market economy, that has brought us those and so many, many other wonderful things that we couldn't possibly live without.
Or Kill Me Some More.
Wow. That's an unfortunately necessary bit of prespective, there.
Damn!
That's why I always sort of sigh and shake my head when people say The System is broken.
Because The System not only sits on layers and layers and layers of the bones Roger talked about, it's built of the bones of the currently alive, too, turning on bony white gears and lubricated with blood. It's working just fine.
The United States' "colorful" history refers to all the shades of color between healthy off-white, to sun bleached and weathered yellow, to flesh-rotted-on-the-bone brown, to charred and crumbling black...
...and finally to the point where all that remains is the lost souls of those that couldn't perceive the truth, and the lingering broken dreams of those that could.
The same is true though for most societies... we're monkeys and we kill and plunder and poop on territorial lines. We subjugate those we can, fight those we think we can beat, kill those we disagree with and those who we think may someday pose a threat to us. The US is maybe a little more hypocritical about the subject, but they don't hold a monopoly on it. I suspect its the way the machine has been working for the past 5 million years or so... or at least the past 700 centuries since we started cracking Neanderthals over the head with big tree branches.
It would be one thing if we all acknowledged and accepted that sort of fact... but the American Dream, I think sometimes refers more to the dreamlike state of denial many of them live in than the goals of their culture.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 30, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
It would be one thing if we all acknowledged and accepted that sort of fact... but the American Dream, I think sometimes refers more to the dreamlike state of denial many of them live in than the goals of their culture.
I think we need to differentiate between The American Dream, and the dreams Americans have.
The dreams Americans have:
1. House in the suburbs w/white picket fence.
2. A decent car or two.
3. A better life for their kids.
4. They also dream about being rich, because they think that will solve all of their problems. In fact, they don't precisely know how they'd enjoy being rich. Many imagine it to be something like being a 9 year old that can have whatever he/she wants, only with more "adult" toys.
5. All of the above via hard work, so they can sneer a bit.
The American Dream:
1. Hegemony over the majority of the world.
2. A thin layer of aristocrats over a sea of the hoi polloi.
3. Control.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 30, 2012, 03:39:18 PM
That's why I always sort of sigh and shake my head when people say The System is broken.
Because The System not only sits on layers and layers and layers of the bones Roger talked about, it's built of the bones of the currently alive, too, turning on bony white gears and lubricated with blood. It's working just fine.
For its intended purpose, yes. This is why people think it's broken: It is functioning in a way they do not expect or recognize. They are looking for a paintbrush, but watching a blender. Of course it looks broken.
This is the truth.
Garbo makes a good point too... the system isn't broken; it's just evil.
I don't know if we can change it, and if you try to opt out of it, it will kill you if it can.
But, we gotta try something. Police driving around in cars marked, simply, "Police", are killing unarmed citizens, and the killings are getting more frequent. We're afraid of masked gunmen in malls and theaters, but the police... well, that just makes us NEED them, doesn't it?
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 30, 2012, 04:19:04 PM
But, we gotta try something. Police driving around in cars marked, simply, "Police", are killing unarmed citizens, and the killings are getting more frequent.
When I saw the first one, down at 29th & Alvernon, it put the hair on the back of my neck up.
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I have to wonder what fate would have brought us if the gun boats didn't scare the british off the great lakes, would the diease we know as freedom be contained to the unholy 13? Would those of us on the west coast speak spanish or even manderan? I'm told a fence, a simple fence aided the north at a key battle...
there's a quote I'm thinkin of but I can't recall who said it... 'a war between nations is an arguement over which map to use'
Quote from: the last yatto on July 30, 2012, 05:16:28 PM
I have to wonder what fate would have brought us if the gun boats didn't scare the british off the great lakes, would the diease we know as freedom be contained to the unholy 13? Would those of us on the west coast speak spanish or even manderan? I'm told a fence, a simple fence aided the north at a key battle...
there's a quote I'm thinkin of but I can't recall who said it... 'a war between nations is an arguement over which map to use'
And "Borders exist where, at some point, two armies ran out of warm bodies."
They system isn't broken, nor is it evil, rather it's our emerging ability to think of it in those terms that's making us think it is. There's nothing happening in the world that isn't working the same in every other species on the planet, right down to the cellular level. We're the pinnacle of biology and biology is a selfish, greedy destructive cunt of a thing. Biology does not create wise, peace loving, caring, sharing organisms - those are weak as shit and basically get eaten by the real stars of Darwin's show - namely the meanest, nastiest bastards that ever walked the earth.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 30, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
They system isn't broken, nor is it evil, rather it's our emerging ability to think of it in those terms that's making us think it is. There's nothing happening in the world that isn't working the same in every other species on the planet, right down to the cellular level. We're the pinnacle of biology and biology is a selfish, greedy destructive cunt of a thing. Biology does not create wise, peace loving, caring, sharing organisms - those are weak as shit and basically get eaten by the real stars of Darwin's show - namely the meanest, nastiest bastards that ever walked the earth.
Actually, in the case of humans, evolution selects for humans that can cooperate. Altruism is in fact a survival trait. Bounce that one off of a libertarian sometime and watch the fun.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 30, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 30, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
They system isn't broken, nor is it evil, rather it's our emerging ability to think of it in those terms that's making us think it is. There's nothing happening in the world that isn't working the same in every other species on the planet, right down to the cellular level. We're the pinnacle of biology and biology is a selfish, greedy destructive cunt of a thing. Biology does not create wise, peace loving, caring, sharing organisms - those are weak as shit and basically get eaten by the real stars of Darwin's show - namely the meanest, nastiest bastards that ever walked the earth.
Actually, in the case of humans, evolution selects for humans that can cooperate. Altruism is in fact a survival trait. Bounce that one off of a libertarian sometime and watch the fun.
Altruism within the local group, at least. But that's true for a lot of species... and even cross species in some instances (symbiotic). The problem with our modern society is that bio-survival tickets (money) have replaced the 'tribe' as the mechanism for survival. Altruism was necessary when we all depended on each other to catch our food, grow our food, cook our food, defend our territory etc. These days, if you got the cash, you don't need the tribe. Somehow we supplanted evolutionary altruism with hoarding green bits of paper. So the cut throat asshole behavior of those trying to get as much money as possible is simply a perverse expression of this basic drive.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 30, 2012, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 30, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 30, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
They system isn't broken, nor is it evil, rather it's our emerging ability to think of it in those terms that's making us think it is. There's nothing happening in the world that isn't working the same in every other species on the planet, right down to the cellular level. We're the pinnacle of biology and biology is a selfish, greedy destructive cunt of a thing. Biology does not create wise, peace loving, caring, sharing organisms - those are weak as shit and basically get eaten by the real stars of Darwin's show - namely the meanest, nastiest bastards that ever walked the earth.
Actually, in the case of humans, evolution selects for humans that can cooperate. Altruism is in fact a survival trait. Bounce that one off of a libertarian sometime and watch the fun.
Altruism within the local group, at least. But that's true for a lot of species... and even cross species in some instances (symbiotic). The problem with our modern society is that bio-survival tickets (money) have replaced the 'tribe' as the mechanism for survival. Altruism was necessary when we all depended on each other to catch our food, grow our food, cook our food, defend our territory etc. These days, if you got the cash, you don't need the tribe. Somehow we supplanted evolutionary altruism with hoarding green bits of paper. So the cut throat asshole behavior of those trying to get as much money as possible is simply a perverse expression of this basic drive.
Yes, and add to that the fact that humans alter their environment, so the usual evolutionary drives are not present. They have been replaced by the system, which has evolutionary factors of its own. The system works as advertised. It's hardly the fault of the system that the average guy thinks that the system is supposed to work for HIM.
Hell, the system even says out loud that it does no such thing, yet the rubes continue to both support it, and penalize members of society that oppose it.
In short, the people who benefit from the system do not have to make any attempt to survive. That's taken care of them by the people who get sodomized by the system and beg for more.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 30, 2012, 05:47:08 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 30, 2012, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 30, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 30, 2012, 05:31:21 PM
They system isn't broken, nor is it evil, rather it's our emerging ability to think of it in those terms that's making us think it is. There's nothing happening in the world that isn't working the same in every other species on the planet, right down to the cellular level. We're the pinnacle of biology and biology is a selfish, greedy destructive cunt of a thing. Biology does not create wise, peace loving, caring, sharing organisms - those are weak as shit and basically get eaten by the real stars of Darwin's show - namely the meanest, nastiest bastards that ever walked the earth.
Actually, in the case of humans, evolution selects for humans that can cooperate. Altruism is in fact a survival trait. Bounce that one off of a libertarian sometime and watch the fun.
Altruism within the local group, at least. But that's true for a lot of species... and even cross species in some instances (symbiotic). The problem with our modern society is that bio-survival tickets (money) have replaced the 'tribe' as the mechanism for survival. Altruism was necessary when we all depended on each other to catch our food, grow our food, cook our food, defend our territory etc. These days, if you got the cash, you don't need the tribe. Somehow we supplanted evolutionary altruism with hoarding green bits of paper. So the cut throat asshole behavior of those trying to get as much money as possible is simply a perverse expression of this basic drive.
Yes, and add to that the fact that humans alter their environment, so the usual evolutionary drives are not present. They have been replaced by the system, which has evolutionary factors of its own. The system works as advertised. It's hardly the fault of the system that the average guy thinks that the system is supposed to work for HIM.
Hell, the system even says out loud that it does no such thing, yet the rubes continue to both support it, and penalize members of society that oppose it.
In short, the people who benefit from the system do not have to make any attempt to survive. That's taken care of them by the people who get sodomized by the system and beg for more.
Too true... :horrormirth:
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on July 30, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: the last yatto on July 30, 2012, 05:16:28 PM
I have to wonder what fate would have brought us if the gun boats didn't scare the british off the great lakes, would the diease we know as freedom be contained to the unholy 13? Would those of us on the west coast speak spanish or even manderan? I'm told a fence, a simple fence aided the north at a key battle...
there's a quote I'm thinkin of but I can't recall who said it... 'a war between nations is an arguement over which map to use'
And "Borders exist where, at some point, two armies ran out of warm bodies."
What about the shift of the battlefield to the machine? As if modern warfare wasn't enough of a video game... add the ability to respawn by some gi sitting in a locked room plugging away on his combat keyboard. When toys start replacing boots on the ground, then what? Embrace skynet... point and click, with ranking system built in
Quote from: the last yatto on July 30, 2012, 07:13:44 PM
What about the shift of the battlefield to the machine? As if modern warfare wasn't enough of a video game... add the ability to respawn by some gi sitting in a locked room plugging away on his combat keyboard. When toys start replacing boots on the ground, then what? Embrace skynet... point and click, with ranking system built in
Those are just toys. In the end, it's a kid on the ground with a rifle.
As the long bow became popular, there was some thought that it was The Weapon of The Future. In the end though, few were bowmen and most were still slugging it out in the mud with sticks and rakes and clubs and swords. Evolution of tools is part of the Monkey Evolutionary Experience.
Damn. :cry:
You've outdone yourself here, I think. This is the crux: bones.
true, after all riot cops are outside disneyland and they look like modern day roman army with those huge shields and batons
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
:x :x :x
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
Love to be a fly on the wall if and when any of them come across an actual gang, rather than the innocent civilians they're paid to harass and terrorise :lulz:
Hang on. Aren't the enforcers/cops supposed to enforce order?
So they are fighting to preserve gangs?
I think a bureaucrat made a tiny mistake.
Quoteen·force /ɛnˈfɔrs, -ˈfoʊrs/ Show Spelled[en-fawrs, -fohrs] Show IPA
verb (used with object), en·forced, en·forc·ing.
1. to put or keep in force; compel obedience to: to enforce a rule; Traffic laws will be strictly enforced.
2. to obtain (payment, obedience, etc.) by force or compulsion.
3. to impose (a course of action) upon a person: The doctor enforced a strict dietary regimen.
4. to support (a demand, claim, etc.) by force: to enforce one's rights as a citizen.
5. to impress or urge (an argument, contention, etc.) forcibly; lay stress upon: He enforced his argument by adding details.
Quote from: :regret: on August 03, 2012, 12:18:11 PM
Hang on. Aren't the enforcers/cops supposed to enforce order?
So they are fighting to preserve gangs?
I think a bureaucrat made a tiny mistake.
Quoteen·force /ɛnˈfɔrs, -ˈfoʊrs/ Show Spelled[en-fawrs, -fohrs] Show IPA
verb (used with object), en·forced, en·forc·ing.
1. to put or keep in force; compel obedience to: to enforce a rule; Traffic laws will be strictly enforced.
2. to obtain (payment, obedience, etc.) by force or compulsion.
3. to impose (a course of action) upon a person: The doctor enforced a strict dietary regimen.
4. to support (a demand, claim, etc.) by force: to enforce one's rights as a citizen.
5. to impress or urge (an argument, contention, etc.) forcibly; lay stress upon: He enforced his argument by adding details.
Yeah, it's americans, dude. It has the word "force" hidden in there, so it's a good word to help instil fear in the
nigg.. gang members of indeterminate ethinicity.
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
Saw them down the road at a Thai Restaurant a couple of days ago. There were a lot of them. They didn't smile.
...plus I saw an 'X3' tag up north about a week ago. If it's legit, 'Gang Enforcement' is about to get a lot more colorful. Did someone mention Bones?
So what's next? Do we just accept the current state of things as 'business as usual'? It would be amazing to me if we could somehow change the current system to thrive on cooperation rather than corporation. The consensus, it seems, is that the System is just too big and out of control and that any dissent or change just gets absorbed or consumed.
So we are just, in short, fucked at birth?
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?
:lulz: Good question.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on August 03, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
So what's next? Do we just accept the current state of things as 'business as usual'? It would be amazing to me if we could somehow change the current system to thrive on cooperation rather than corporation. The consensus, it seems, is that the System is just too big and out of control and that any dissent or change just gets absorbed or consumed.
So we are just, in short, fucked at birth?
Enough changes in the machine add up.
Which is really to say there needs to be a lot of people all over the place willing to disrupt the machine and be eaten in the process to change it.
Which is also to say that things will have to get
a lot worse first.
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.
The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.
The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.
Humans get dumber with civilization. Cities breed for disease resistance, nomads breed for intelligence.
The only way to make a smarter monkey is to take all his toys away.
Problem is, you lose a LOT of monkeys when that happens, and the smart survivors will simply start building back towards civilization, and become dumb again.
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on August 03, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.
The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.
Humans get dumber with civilization. Cities breed for disease resistance, nomads breed for intelligence.
The only way to make a smarter monkey is to take all his toys away.
Problem is, you lose a LOT of monkeys when that happens, and the smart survivors will simply start building back towards civilization, and become dumb again.
I can see it panning out like that, yeah, but I don't see it as set in stone. I see other potentials. Of course if you wanted me to put money on it, I'd have to back - endless cycle of retarded :lulz:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on August 03, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 03, 2012, 09:06:45 PM
I've been thinking about this thread and the one about things being better than in the good old days and I just thought of something. The machine isn't fixable. It can't work. Yet. The machine isn't some third party, sentient, lumbering thing, in an of itself, even though it may present emergent characteristics, at times, which make it easy to view things that way. No. The machine is merely an extension of us. The machine doesn't work right because it's not actually a machine. That's just a metaphor, or a map if you like. The "Machine" is merely the resulting clusterfuck that occurs when a bunch of monkeys get real fucking smart (but not quite smart enough) to take over the world and fashion a makeshift utopia on the bones of other monkeys who weren't fortunate enough to make it to the promised land.
The machine might work one day but the monkeys will have to be a lot smarter before that happens. En masse. Right now it aint workable. Maybe one day we'll all get smarter. Maybe not. Maybe Idiocracy is on the way.
Humans get dumber with civilization. Cities breed for disease resistance, nomads breed for intelligence.
The only way to make a smarter monkey is to take all his toys away.
Problem is, you lose a LOT of monkeys when that happens, and the smart survivors will simply start building back towards civilization, and become dumb again.
I can see it panning out like that, yeah, but I don't see it as set in stone. I see other potentials. Of course if you wanted me to put money on it, I'd have to back - endless cycle of retarded :lulz:
We've had three dark ages, of varying length. The second-worst one followed the plague pandemic, and damn near erased civilization.
But here we are. Derp!
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
Or, to look at it another way, they are the enforcement arm of the gang known as the state..
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 03, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
Or, to look at it another way, they are the enforcement arm of the gang known as the state..
FLAG ON THE FIELD.
10 yard penalty for gratuitous hackeyed cliche usage.
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?
What if it's not that he's making more sense, but that you've started to understand him?
Quote from: The Dead Reverend Roger on August 03, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
Quote from: BabylonHoruv on August 03, 2012, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 03, 2012, 02:48:54 AM
Today I saw a bunch of cops wearing jackets emblazoned "GANG ENFORCEMENT" searching a couple cars outside of a convenience store.
They might as well just change those labels to "BLACK ENFORCEMENT". Truth in advertising and all.
Or, to look at it another way, they are the enforcement arm of the gang known as the state..
FLAG ON THE FIELD.
10 yard penalty for gratuitous hackeyed cliche usage.
Not "TEH STATE".
Though our high law enforcement here has traditionally had Bandidos running meth labs for them, and/or ties to the cartels.
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?
Yatto didn't make sense?
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 04, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?
What if it's not that he's making more sense, but that you've started to understand him?
Then one day we'll all understand what Hirley0 is saying, and then accidentally apocalypse.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on August 04, 2012, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on August 04, 2012, 01:19:04 AM
Quote from: Bruce Twiddleton on August 03, 2012, 04:24:02 PM
Not to be off topic but when did yatto start making sense?
What if it's not that he's making more sense, but that you've started to understand him?
Then one day we'll all understand what Hirley0 is saying, and then accidentally apocalypse.
IT'S ALREADY BEGUN!
My colleague said something interesting today.
He said that the succesful landing of the newest mars rover gave him faith in the possibility of conspiracies.
Normally we assume that conspiracy theories are unlikely because humans aren't smart or cooperative enough to work together to save their lives, let alone run a secret organization.
This made me think of the one situation in which human society can improve without building on the bones of their ancestors and that is when they go to other places and pillage build up their society there.
So let's go to mars and cause wanton ecological disaster there! maybe humanity will pull together and learn new techniques of not killing eachother.
Quote from: :regret: on August 06, 2012, 04:51:45 PM
My colleague said something interesting today.
He said that the succesful landing of the newest mars rover gave him faith in the possibility of conspiracies.
Normally we assume that conspiracy theories are unlikely because humans aren't smart or cooperative enough to work together to save their lives, let alone run a secret organization.
This made me think of the one situation in which human society can improve without building on the bones of their ancestors and that is when they go to other places and pillage build up their society there.
So let's go to mars and cause wanton ecological disaster there! maybe humanity will pull together and learn new techniques of not killing eachother.
Ecological disaster implies an ecology.
There is no current ecology on Mars.