I'm sure most of you have heard that some scientists are attempting to create meat which has never been sawed off a living animal. I'm also sure most of you are aware that Tumblr and other pockets of the internet are the resting spot of rabid vegetarians and vegans... so, this news finally hit them. I don't have screen caps at the moment, but the general sentiment among them all seems to be that this is the worst bit of science since the atom bomb, it's Frankenscience (which, admittedly, it is), it's unethical, it's evil, blah blah blah...
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
Scientifically created meat should be the answer to all their issues, except perhaps the issue of the healthiness of consuming red meat - which I am dubious about, but that's a separate issue - or is it? ANYway... am I getting raged over nothing? Are they right? Is this stupid? HUH??
Considering Tumblr and Reddit are festering pits of STOOPID, this is not surprising.
They're stupid. It was never alive, there's no way to inhumanely kill it, and, yeah, it should answer all of their issues with it. Unless they think meat is gross for another reason, which is different altogether.
Garbo,
-- a vegetarian
As long as they can develop a reliable way to tone the meat and give it a natural texture, I don't see why anyone would complain about this other than forgetting the entire point of their original position. But then, these are the people who blast fiery tirades against corporate cultural domination from their iThings. Militant vegetarians are not so much pro-animal as they are anti-meat.
I would switch to lab meat tomorrow if i could. And the healthiness of red meat is dependent on a lot of factors including north americans being largely incapable of eating proper portions and variety.
Twid
hates the fact that cute things are tasty but accepts omnivorous life style. Except in feb-march.
It's "unnatural" is probably the bottom line for most of these people. Which is a really naive statement in itself.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421128_312837375419633_1383699143_n.jpg)
Going to the moon is unnatural. I never particularly liked most vegans on principle. They have very loud uniforms.
Quote from: v3x on September 12, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
As long as they can develop a reliable way to tone the meat and give it a natural texture, I don't see why anyone would complain about this other than forgetting the entire point of their original position. But then, these are the people who blast fiery tirades against corporate cultural domination from their iThings. Militant vegetarians are not so much pro-animal as they are anti-meat.
Militant anythings are generally anti-stuff and much more interested in being pains in the fucking ass than even that.
I'm pretty sure that, some day soon, the same psychologists who classified trainspotting as a mental condition will turn their apparatus on militants and come to a similar conclusion.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 06:56:36 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 12, 2012, 06:37:42 PM
As long as they can develop a reliable way to tone the meat and give it a natural texture, I don't see why anyone would complain about this other than forgetting the entire point of their original position. But then, these are the people who blast fiery tirades against corporate cultural domination from their iThings. Militant vegetarians are not so much pro-animal as they are anti-meat.
Militant anythings are generally anti-stuff and much more interested in being pains in the fucking ass than even that.
I'm pretty sure that, some day soon, the same psychologists who classified trainspotting as a mental condition will turn their apparatus on militants and come to a similar conclusion.
Yes it's true. Vegetarians are actually nice people if you can avoid their flatulence. Vegans, on the other hand, are like Vegetarian Al Qaeda.
A bunch of vegetarians I know are more concerned about environmental impact. This is also why I eat less meat than I used to. So I guess the question would be whether the overall footprint of the synthetic meat would be significantly higher than that of vegetables.
But "stupid" is usually a good bet anyway.
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
A bunch of vegetarians I know are more concerned about environmental impact. This is also why I eat less meat than I used to. So I guess the question would be whether the overall footprint of the synthetic meat would be significantly higher than that of vegetables.
But "stupid" is usually a good bet anyway.
I once read that soybean farms in South American take up more rain forest space than cattle farms, but for the life of me I haven't been able to rediscover where I originally read that... or possibly dreamt it... :eek:
http://www.ted.com/talks/mark_bittman_on_what_s_wrong_with_what_we_eat.html
Here's an interesting perspective
This is the best 1st world problem I've ever seen. Most of the world is fighting over a handful of spoiled rice, and these bastards are whimpering because plentiful meat might be available that didn't require a death.
HERE'S THE REASON: With non-animal meat available, the most effective selling tool they have for their religion goes away. They will no longer feel special. Many of them base their entire sense of self-worth on this sort of thing, so you aren't just challenging their beliefs, but also their IDENTITY.
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:15:04 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:12:38 PM
A bunch of vegetarians I know are more concerned about environmental impact. This is also why I eat less meat than I used to. So I guess the question would be whether the overall footprint of the synthetic meat would be significantly higher than that of vegetables.
But "stupid" is usually a good bet anyway.
I once read that soybean farms in South American take up more rain forest space than cattle farms, but for the life of me I haven't been able to rediscover where I originally read that... or possibly dreamt it... :eek:
I've heard similar stuff a few times. One of the many reasons it's a bad idea to rely on soy too much in any way.
But it's my understanding that the main environmental and social problems associated with soy are caused mainly by Monsanto monoculture unsustainable crap crops.
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:18:16 PM
This is the best 1st world problem I've ever seen. Most of the world is fighting over a handful of spoiled rice, and these bastards are whimpering because plentiful meat might be available that didn't require a death.
HERE'S THE REASON: With non-animal meat available, the most effective selling tool they have for their religion goes away. They will no longer feel special. Many of them base their entire sense of self-worth on this sort of thing, so you aren't just challenging their beliefs, but also their IDENTITY.
Well that, and also vegetarian and vegan memes for some reason mesh really well with Cult of the Natural memes.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:18:16 PM
This is the best 1st world problem I've ever seen. Most of the world is fighting over a handful of spoiled rice, and these bastards are whimpering because plentiful meat might be available that didn't require a death.
HERE'S THE REASON: With non-animal meat available, the most effective selling tool they have for their religion goes away. They will no longer feel special. Many of them base their entire sense of self-worth on this sort of thing, so you aren't just challenging their beliefs, but also their IDENTITY.
HELL YES
and thus would render their tattoos out of date. :lol:
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:18:16 PM
This is the best 1st world problem I've ever seen. Most of the world is fighting over a handful of spoiled rice, and these bastards are whimpering because plentiful meat might be available that didn't require a death.
HERE'S THE REASON: With non-animal meat available, the most effective selling tool they have for their religion goes away. They will no longer feel special. Many of them base their entire sense of self-worth on this sort of thing, so you aren't just challenging their beliefs, but also their IDENTITY.
Well that, and also vegetarian and vegan memes for some reason mesh really well with Cult of the Natural memes.
Oh, yeah, those dumbfucks.
Humans are tool-users. Technology IS natural for us.
lab meat has about 90% less of an environmental impact. Of course, it has never actually been attempted on any kind of scale, and the actual processing of that meat has never happened, and the electroshock techniques that would be required to turn it from formless goo into actual strands of muscle that look and taste like real meat, has not been developed yet. but ounce for ounce it uses 80-90% less water, 90-95% less power, and produces 98% fewer rednecks and hillbillies than traditional farms and ranches do.
Source: http://www.science20.com/curious_cub/environmental_impact_labgrown_meat-80996
Cannibalism has been working just fine for me.
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:28:52 PM
Cannibalism has been working just fine for me.
Whoops. Wrong thread.
I meant to post this in Discordian Recipes.
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:28:52 PM
Cannibalism has been working just fine for me.
Whoops. Wrong thread.
I meant to post this in Discordian Recipes.
Works here, too.
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
Quinoa for everyone!
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
A muslim friend of mine issued a fatwa a few years ago, declaring bacon to be a fruit, and therefore halal, so you're absolutely right.
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
A muslim friend of mine issued a fatwa a few years ago, declaring bacon to be a fruit, and therefore halal, so you're absolutely right.
I like this friend of yours. He seems so much more reasonable than most religious people I know, of ANY religion.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
A muslim friend of mine issued a fatwa a few years ago, declaring bacon to be a fruit, and therefore halal, so you're absolutely right.
I like this friend of yours. He seems so much more reasonable than most religious people I know, of ANY religion.
He's a great guy. He goes by the moniker Mad Mullah Hastur, has a bigger beard than me, and is Norway's leading expert on the history of vibrators.
Duped supporters of the Meatocracy, ITT
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
A muslim friend of mine issued a fatwa a few years ago, declaring bacon to be a fruit, and therefore halal, so you're absolutely right.
I like this friend of yours. He seems so much more reasonable than most religious people I know, of ANY religion.
He's a great guy. He goes by the moniker Mad Mullah Hastur, has a bigger beard than me, and is Norway's leading expert on the history of vibrators.
You will bring this man to Tucson. We need him.
And if you can't afford the trip, no worries. Everyone dies eventually, and you two are DEFINITELY slated for Tucson. Weird bastards.
Quote from: Cain on September 12, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
Duped supporters of the Meatocracy, ITT
I find myself unable to reply, on account of my privileged status induced by this here ham sammich.
<insert profanity and screeching here, as required>
Quote from: Cain on September 12, 2012, 08:01:02 PM
Duped supporters of the Meatocracy, ITT
WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY MEAT SUIT.
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And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
A muslim friend of mine issued a fatwa a few years ago, declaring bacon to be a fruit, and therefore halal, so you're absolutely right.
I like this friend of yours. He seems so much more reasonable than most religious people I know, of ANY religion.
He's a great guy. He goes by the moniker Mad Mullah Hastur, has a bigger beard than me, and is Norway's leading expert on the history of vibrators.
You will bring this man to Tucson. We need him.
And if you can't afford the trip, no worries. Everyone dies eventually, and you two are DEFINITELY slated for Tucson. Weird bastards.
I will bring him in a suit case if I have to.
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
He's in congress. Get some mayo and a really big knife.
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 08:08:52 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:53:57 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
Quote from: Waffles, The Iron on September 12, 2012, 07:49:22 PM
Quote from: VERBL on September 12, 2012, 07:19:28 PM
Anyway, there are fortunately several other plants out there you can eat, and some of them even provide protein. :)
A muslim friend of mine issued a fatwa a few years ago, declaring bacon to be a fruit, and therefore halal, so you're absolutely right.
I like this friend of yours. He seems so much more reasonable than most religious people I know, of ANY religion.
He's a great guy. He goes by the moniker Mad Mullah Hastur, has a bigger beard than me, and is Norway's leading expert on the history of vibrators.
You will bring this man to Tucson. We need him.
And if you can't afford the trip, no worries. Everyone dies eventually, and you two are DEFINITELY slated for Tucson. Weird bastards.
I will bring him in a suit case if I have to.
Two words: AIR HOLES.
Our dumpsters are already full.
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:28:52 PM
Cannibalism has been working just fine for me.
http://www.dailytech.com/Japanese+Make+Delicious+Nourishing+Steaks+From+Human+Feces/article21932.htm
Does this count?
...no?
Quote from: The Dark Monk on September 12, 2012, 09:59:40 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 07:28:52 PM
Cannibalism has been working just fine for me.
http://www.dailytech.com/Japanese+Make+Delicious+Nourishing+Steaks+From+Human+Feces/article21932.htm
Does this count?
That's just...
Erm...
*skeeve*
It's also not cannibalism, unless you eat people anyway.
Of course, this raises an important question: which is more wrong? Eating your own poop-steak, or someone elses?
Ultimately everything is recycled poop. Bears shit on the ground grass ets the shit as do flies and microbes. Cows eat grass frogs eat flies. People eat cows frenchmen eat frogs and so on.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 12, 2012, 11:17:44 PM
Ultimately everything is recycled poop. Bears shit on the ground grass ets the shit as do flies and microbes. Cows eat grass frogs eat flies. People eat cows frenchmen eat frogs and so on.
Hint: google "Japan poop steak"
Quote from: Net on September 13, 2012, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 12, 2012, 11:17:44 PM
Ultimately everything is recycled poop. Bears shit on the ground grass ets the shit as do flies and microbes. Cows eat grass frogs eat flies. People eat cows frenchmen eat frogs and so on.
Hint: google "Japan poop steak"
I know. That's what I was responding to. :)
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Why not? Makes it a whole lot more fair going up against unarmed soccer hooligans.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 13, 2012, 02:35:15 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Why not? Makes it a whole lot more fair going up against unarmed soccer hooligans.
Our SWAT teams do.
Um. And our motorcycle cops.
And our FRTs.
And...um...
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:39:17 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 13, 2012, 02:35:15 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Why not? Makes it a whole lot more fair going up against unarmed soccer hooligans.
Our SWAT teams do.
Um. And our motorcycle cops.
And our FRTs.
And...um...
http://paxarcana.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/boston-police-finally-getting-assault-rifles/
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 13, 2012, 02:40:22 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:39:17 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 13, 2012, 02:35:15 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Why not? Makes it a whole lot more fair going up against unarmed soccer hooligans.
Our SWAT teams do.
Um. And our motorcycle cops.
And our FRTs.
And...um...
http://paxarcana.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/boston-police-finally-getting-assault-rifles/
The Cradle of Liberty.
America, fuck yeah.
:flush:
BTW, I had some of those little Morningstar sausages in tacos last night and it was nom.
I draw the line there, though. No poompburgers (http://www.digitaltrends.com/international/japanese-scientists-creates-meat-out-of-feces/).
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Only in places where there is a high potential for OMGTERRUR!! Govt buildings, airports, sports stadiums, etc...
This reminds me, I need to get my hands on an assualt rifle. Now, do I approach a shady arms dealer and risk being caught or do I persuade a copper to let me borrow theirs and risk a nationwide manhunt :evil:
The cops around here carry them in their patrol cars.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 13, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Only in places where there is a high potential for OMGTERRUR!! Govt buildings, airports, sports stadiums, etc...
Same as in Norway, then.
Patrol police here doesn't even carry handguns.
I've seen topic drift before, but it is entertaining the everliving fuck out of me that in just a few pages, this drifted from vegetarians to assault rifles.
Quote from: Luna on September 14, 2012, 01:09:09 AM
I've seen topic drift before, but it is entertaining the everliving fuck out of me that in just a few pages, this drifted from vegetarians to assault rifles.
I blame Richter. Some more.
Quote from: Luna on September 14, 2012, 01:09:09 AM
I've seen topic drift before, but it is entertaining the everliving fuck out of me that in just a few pages, this drifted from vegetarians to assault rifles.
That's because almost everyone in the world would rather talk about anything else than vegetarianism.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 13, 2012, 02:19:12 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on September 12, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 12, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 12, 2012, 08:03:53 PM
And I'd like to add that it is a DELICIOUS ham sammich.
Thanks, Napoleon!
Q: If a pig walks on two legs... how do we tell him from everyone else?
The uniform?
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/215450343_b9800079d3.jpg)
Real people don't dress like this
Your fucking police carry ASSAULT RIFLES?
Oh, the innocence... seems like only yesterday...