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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 17, 2012, 11:14:37 PM

Title: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 17, 2012, 11:14:37 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive (http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-life-star-trek-warp-drive)

NOW DON'T NONE OF YOU CYNICS SHIT IN MY CHEERIOS.

This is awesome and I require AT LEAST 5 MINUTES OF CHILDLIKE WONDER THAT THIS MIGHT BE POSSIBLE before you start in with the "It'll never happen" and the "Republicans would defund this in an instant" and your "LOL THIS GUY'S A FRAUD" shit. I know you're right, but for the sake of my sanity just HOLD IT IN FOR 5 MINUTES and IMAGINE POSSIBILITIES, FUCKERS.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 17, 2012, 11:30:04 PM
I'm reserving judgement.  There's been some spectacular work done in physics recently.

Plus, I can't read the link from here.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:37:04 PM
From what i read earlier on it, he seems to be working on a table top experiment of his idea?
i'd get really excited if there were good results there.
i mean, FTL travel would be nothing less than religious in transformativityness...
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 17, 2012, 11:38:44 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:37:04 PM
From what i read earlier on it, he seems to be working on a table top experiment of his idea?
i'd get really excited if there were good results there.
i mean, FTL travel would be nothing less than religious in transformativityness...

Pretty sure it would be every bit as revolutionary in our history as it is in Star Trek fiction, even if there aren't any aliens out there to run into.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 17, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!

that's if there are no aliens.

If there are aliens, we will of course go to war with them, and assuming we manage to avoid getting ourselves obliterated, we will then teach them how to love Jesus™.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2012, 02:23:50 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 17, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!

that's if there are no aliens.

If there are aliens, we will of course go to war with them, and assuming we manage to avoid getting ourselves obliterated, we will then teach them how to love Jesus™.

Oh, fucking great.  We invent a stardrive, and become Space Mormons.

Someone put a stop to that asshole.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 18, 2012, 02:31:07 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 18, 2012, 02:23:50 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 17, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!

that's if there are no aliens.

If there are aliens, we will of course go to war with them, and assuming we manage to avoid getting ourselves obliterated, we will then teach them how to love Jesus™.

Oh, fucking great.  We invent a stardrive, and become Space Mormons.

Someone put a stop to that asshole.

:lulz: You're on a roll.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Kai on September 18, 2012, 03:20:36 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 18, 2012, 02:23:50 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 17, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!

that's if there are no aliens.

If there are aliens, we will of course go to war with them, and assuming we manage to avoid getting ourselves obliterated, we will then teach them how to love Jesus™.

Oh, fucking great.  We invent a stardrive, and become Space Mormons.

Someone put a stop to that asshole.

:lulz: Humans can turn even the most amazing accomplishment into cheezy theater.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 18, 2012, 11:58:09 PM
I hope that I see us become an interstellar species by the time I kick off.

Effective speed of 10c. That's about warp 2, I'd say.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2012, 01:41:21 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 18, 2012, 11:58:09 PM
I hope that I see us become an interstellar species by the time I kick off.

Effective speed of 10c. That's about warp 2, I'd say.

Nearest star is 4 months away.

Fucking amazing.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 19, 2012, 01:46:33 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 19, 2012, 01:41:21 AM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on September 18, 2012, 11:58:09 PM
I hope that I see us become an interstellar species by the time I kick off.

Effective speed of 10c. That's about warp 2, I'd say.

Nearest star is 4 months away.

Fucking amazing.

Dimo might get his wish of dying offworld after all.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2012, 01:57:31 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/technology/index.html

Seems to be shit.

No news from JSC or NASA.

My disappointment is bitter.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Don Coyote on September 19, 2012, 02:29:47 AM
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20110023492
QuoteNASA/JSC is implementing an advanced propulsion physics laboratory, informally known as "Eagleworks", to pursue propulsion technologies necessary to enable human exploration of the solar system over the next 50 years, and enabling interstellar spaceflight by the end of the century. This work directly supports the "Breakthrough Propulsion" objectives detailed in the NASA OCT TA02 In-space Propulsion Roadmap, and aligns with the #10 Top Technical Challenge identified in the report. Since the work being pursued by this laboratory is applied scientific research in the areas of the quantum vacuum, gravitation, nature of space-time, and other fundamental physical phenomenon, high fidelity testing facilities are needed. The lab will first implement a low-thrust torsion pendulum (<1 uN), and commission the facility with an existing Quantum Vacuum Plasma Thruster. To date, the QVPT line of research has produced data suggesting very high specific impulse coupled with high specific force. If the physics and engineering models can be explored and understood in the lab to allow scaling to power levels pertinent for human spaceflight, 400kW SEP human missions to Mars may become a possibility, and at power levels of 2MW, 1-year transit to Neptune may also be possible. Additionally, the lab is implementing a warp field interferometer that will be able to measure spacetime disturbances down to 150nm. Recent work published by White [1] [2] [3] suggests that it may be possible to engineer spacetime creating conditions similar to what drives the expansion of the cosmos. Although the expected magnitude of the effect would be tiny, it may be a "Chicago pile" moment for this area of physics.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2012, 02:48:18 AM
Quote from: Guru Qu1x073 on September 19, 2012, 02:29:47 AM
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20110023492
QuoteNASA/JSC is implementing an advanced propulsion physics laboratory, informally known as "Eagleworks", to pursue propulsion technologies necessary to enable human exploration of the solar system over the next 50 years, and enabling interstellar spaceflight by the end of the century. This work directly supports the "Breakthrough Propulsion" objectives detailed in the NASA OCT TA02 In-space Propulsion Roadmap, and aligns with the #10 Top Technical Challenge identified in the report. Since the work being pursued by this laboratory is applied scientific research in the areas of the quantum vacuum, gravitation, nature of space-time, and other fundamental physical phenomenon, high fidelity testing facilities are needed. The lab will first implement a low-thrust torsion pendulum (<1 uN), and commission the facility with an existing Quantum Vacuum Plasma Thruster. To date, the QVPT line of research has produced data suggesting very high specific impulse coupled with high specific force. If the physics and engineering models can be explored and understood in the lab to allow scaling to power levels pertinent for human spaceflight, 400kW SEP human missions to Mars may become a possibility, and at power levels of 2MW, 1-year transit to Neptune may also be possible. Additionally, the lab is implementing a warp field interferometer that will be able to measure spacetime disturbances down to 150nm. Recent work published by White [1] [2] [3] suggests that it may be possible to engineer spacetime creating conditions similar to what drives the expansion of the cosmos. Although the expected magnitude of the effect would be tiny, it may be a "Chicago pile" moment for this area of physics.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2012, 02:52:22 AM
I gotta say, though...Only NASA could make something THAT cool look THAT boring.

Appropriate Press Release:

Quote from: Fidel Castro, Director
YO MOTHAFUCKA WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 19, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Elder Iptuous on September 19, 2012, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 17, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!

that's if there are no aliens.

If there are aliens, we will of course go to war with them, and assuming we manage to avoid getting ourselves obliterated, we will then teach them how to love Jesus™.

interestingly, the question was just featured today in a little piece on space.com
Should Humanity Take Religion on Interstellar Space Voyage? (http://www.space.com/17659-interstellar-travel-religion-conflict.html)
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 19, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
Only if aliens have souls and arent allergic to unleavened bread.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 19, 2012, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 19, 2012, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 17, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 17, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
shit yeah.
we'd somehow use it to bootstrap ourselves into a post scarcity world, and then blow all our time and effort investigating other avenues of what is currently fringe/quack science....
and some of it might turn out to be true!

that's if there are no aliens.

If there are aliens, we will of course go to war with them, and assuming we manage to avoid getting ourselves obliterated, we will then teach them how to love Jesus™.

interestingly, the question was just featured today in a little piece on space.com
Should Humanity Take Religion on Interstellar Space Voyage? (http://www.space.com/17659-interstellar-travel-religion-conflict.html)


How is the answer to that not obviously "Absolutely Not Are You Crazy" ?
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Elder Iptuous on September 19, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
Well, as said at the end of the writeup, it's likely to happen whether we agree to forgo such, or not....

I'd be spoutin' some discordianism to those heathen lifeforms.

so, why should i disallow my fellow spacefaring humans from letting the aliens know that there is a Superbeing who created the cosmos that takes a particular interest in us, and came down to us, and we killed him, but we feel really bad about that, and they also need to apologize for being dicks or they're going to go to the molten core of our planet after they die?
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 19, 2012, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 19, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
Well, as said at the end of the writeup, it's likely to happen whether we agree to forgo such, or not....

I'd be spoutin' some discordianism to those heathen lifeforms.

so, why should i disallow my fellow spacefaring humans from letting the aliens know that there is a Superbeing who created the cosmos that takes a particular interest in us, and came down to us, and we killed him, but we feel really bad about that, and they also need to apologize for being dicks or they're going to go to the molten core of our planet after they die?


Because it's Bullshit ?
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2012, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 19, 2012, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 19, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
Well, as said at the end of the writeup, it's likely to happen whether we agree to forgo such, or not....

I'd be spoutin' some discordianism to those heathen lifeforms.

so, why should i disallow my fellow spacefaring humans from letting the aliens know that there is a Superbeing who created the cosmos that takes a particular interest in us, and came down to us, and we killed him, but we feel really bad about that, and they also need to apologize for being dicks or they're going to go to the molten core of our planet after they die?


Because it's Bullshit ?

Sez YOU, apostate.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Elder Iptuous on September 19, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
again.... it's inevitable.

but, i like the fact that in the article they had some southern baptist minister saying that we really ought to leave earth-based religion on earth, and should adopt a science based space-religion.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 28, 2013, 04:47:27 PM
Bump.

This thread, I believe, has the relevant links.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Doktor Howl on May 28, 2013, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: six to the quixotic on September 19, 2012, 02:29:47 AM
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20110023492
QuoteNASA/JSC is implementing an advanced propulsion physics laboratory, informally known as "Eagleworks", to pursue propulsion technologies necessary to enable human exploration of the solar system over the next 50 years, and enabling interstellar spaceflight by the end of the century. This work directly supports the "Breakthrough Propulsion" objectives detailed in the NASA OCT TA02 In-space Propulsion Roadmap, and aligns with the #10 Top Technical Challenge identified in the report. Since the work being pursued by this laboratory is applied scientific research in the areas of the quantum vacuum, gravitation, nature of space-time, and other fundamental physical phenomenon, high fidelity testing facilities are needed. The lab will first implement a low-thrust torsion pendulum (<1 uN), and commission the facility with an existing Quantum Vacuum Plasma Thruster. To date, the QVPT line of research has produced data suggesting very high specific impulse coupled with high specific force. If the physics and engineering models can be explored and understood in the lab to allow scaling to power levels pertinent for human spaceflight, 400kW SEP human missions to Mars may become a possibility, and at power levels of 2MW, 1-year transit to Neptune may also be possible. Additionally, the lab is implementing a warp field interferometer that will be able to measure spacetime disturbances down to 150nm. Recent work published by White [1] [2] [3] suggests that it may be possible to engineer spacetime creating conditions similar to what drives the expansion of the cosmos. Although the expected magnitude of the effect would be tiny, it may be a "Chicago pile" moment for this area of physics.

Here.
Title: Re: New Old News: Warp Drive
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on May 28, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
Whoa. 

Even though it won't get funded.

Just...whoa.  :) :) :)