...I guess I should shelve my idea for a Mohammed Saturday morning cartoon show?
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 20, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
...I guess I should shelve my idea for a Mohammed Saturday morning cartoon show?
Nah, ALL AHEAD FULL!
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 20, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
...I guess I should shelve my idea for a Mohammed Saturday morning cartoon show?
Better make it a puppet show instead. Easier to make a prophet.
Quote from: Richter, Baron von on September 20, 2012, 04:50:59 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 20, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
...I guess I should shelve my idea for a Mohammed Saturday morning cartoon show?
Better make it a puppet show instead. Easier to make a prophet.
:hashishim:
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 20, 2012, 01:56:21 AM
...I guess I should shelve my idea for a Mohammed Saturday morning cartoon show?
QFT. Do a variety show instead. They're poised to make a comeback in entertainment and The Muhammad Variety Hour is just what the world needs.
You could save a whole lot of ink and production time by simply not depicting the face of God or the Prophet, as is customary.
Still a risky venture far ahead of it's time.
Since these people are so easy to troll, it seems to me that "The Discordian Society" could easily make a name for themselves.
Isolated depictions of mohammed have been done to death. The next logical step is an international draw mohammed olympics and a website where we rank the pics in by country, with the best from each, going through to the finals in mecca.
Or, just declare that all pictures of people without obvious identities could be pictures of Muhammed.
I mean, they could.
This guy, totally Muhammed
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/087/c/4/Stick_Figure_by_101stickfigure101.jpg)
A Mohammed in its natural habitat:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120402161657/theslenderman/images/7/70/Slenderman.png)
Quote from: Cain on September 20, 2012, 08:01:53 AM
Or, just declare that all pictures of people without obvious identities could be pictures of Muhammed.
I mean, they could.
This guy, totally Muhammed
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/087/c/4/Stick_Figure_by_101stickfigure101.jpg)
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
/
:hashishim:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mageqeLHdL1rujey2o1_400.jpg)
Quote from: MMMW on September 20, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mageqeLHdL1rujey2o1_400.jpg)
:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke2::nuke::nuke::nuke:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on September 20, 2012, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on September 20, 2012, 08:01:53 AM
Or, just declare that all pictures of people without obvious identities could be pictures of Muhammed.
I mean, they could.
This guy, totally Muhammed
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/087/c/4/Stick_Figure_by_101stickfigure101.jpg)
"THAT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE ME"
/
:hashishim:
Fixed.
Quote from: MMMW on September 20, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mageqeLHdL1rujey2o1_400.jpg)
We're all going to die. :lulz:
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get
so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
I'm reasonably certain that is a physical impossibility, like reaching light speed or absolute zero temperature.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
I'm reasonably certain that is a physical impossibility, like reaching light speed or absolute zero temperature.
Right, I'll add that to my list.
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:25:48 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
I'm reasonably certain that is a physical impossibility, like reaching light speed or absolute zero temperature.
Right, I'll add that to my list.
You can slow the poop down as much as you want, but you can't actually stop it.
Asymptotic poop!
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:26:30 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:25:48 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
I'm reasonably certain that is a physical impossibility, like reaching light speed or absolute zero temperature.
Right, I'll add that to my list.
You can slow the poop down as much as you want, but you can't actually stop it.
Asymptotic poop!
What happens when we take that derivative to infinity in the /opposite/ direction?
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:30:02 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:26:30 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:25:48 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
I'm reasonably certain that is a physical impossibility, like reaching light speed or absolute zero temperature.
Right, I'll add that to my list.
You can slow the poop down as much as you want, but you can't actually stop it.
Asymptotic poop!
What happens when we take that derivative to infinity in the /opposite/ direction?
It blows my head off and shoots 30 feet into the air?
And if you multiply it by 2(Pi) to wrap it around the X axis, you wind up with a colon that has infinite surface area and a finite volume.
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:31:11 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:30:02 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:26:30 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:25:48 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
Quote from: ZL 'Kai' Burington, M.S. on September 21, 2012, 03:22:21 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:18:58 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:17:14 AM
Quote from: Fidel Castro on September 21, 2012, 03:15:40 AM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
If any particular group of humans needs Eris to save them, it's radical Islamists.
At least they know how to lose their shit properly. I'll take them over Calvinists any day.
This may be true, but it raises the disturbing question of just where, exactly, do they get so much shit to lose? They do nothing all day except lose their shit. Every day, except during Friday prayers I'm guessing.
I have enough shit to do that, but I'm repressed.
Don't you mean, constipated?
I'm reasonably certain that is a physical impossibility, like reaching light speed or absolute zero temperature.
Right, I'll add that to my list.
You can slow the poop down as much as you want, but you can't actually stop it.
Asymptotic poop!
What happens when we take that derivative to infinity in the /opposite/ direction?
It blows my head off and shoots 30 feet into the air?
Um.....
While I am a continual advocate of SCIENCE, some part of me says that might be a bad idea.
1) It's NOT ok to draw images of Muhammed. There are no identifiable images of Muhammed, therefore none can ever be accepted as being an accurate representation. Wouldn't it be easier for angry Muslims to say "No! Wrong! Try again!" instead of the usual 'cut off the heads of infidels who insult the prophet' schtick?
:jihaad: HAAAA WESTERN CAPITALIST PIGDOGS! YOU GOT HIS HAIR AND EARS ALL WRONG!!
(Plus, why is an image automatically an insult? What if the portrayal was very flattering?)
2) While it's not ok to draw Muhammed, for some odd reason it is ok to call yourself Muhammed. Isn't everyone named Muhammed somehow an 'image' of him by taking his name?
3) What if a person is a portrait artist, called Muhammed. It's extremely likely that he will, at some point, draw/paint a model or sitter with the same name. Is this blasphemous?
I might be completely wrong, but those are my 2 cents.
Quote from: Mangrove on September 21, 2012, 05:24:00 AM
1) It's NOT ok to draw images of Muhammed. There are no identifiable images of Muhammed, therefore none can ever be accepted as being an accurate representation. Wouldn't it be easier for angry Muslims to say "No! Wrong! Try again!" instead of the usual 'cut off the heads of infidels who insult the prophet' schtick?
:jihaad: HAAAA WESTERN CAPITALIST PIGDOGS! YOU GOT HIS HAIR AND EARS ALL WRONG!!
(Plus, why is an image automatically an insult? What if the portrayal was very flattering?)
2) While it's not ok to draw Muhammed, for some odd reason it is ok to call yourself Muhammed. Isn't everyone named Muhammed somehow an 'image' of him by taking his name?
3) What if a person is a portrait artist, called Muhammed. It's extremely likely that he will, at some point, draw/paint a model or sitter with the same name. Is this blasphemous?
1) It might have something to do with not wanting to turn him into an icon. Plus IIRC there is an order by God somewhere either in the Torah or the Quran not to represent animals or people, which people don't strictly obey anymore. Most of Christianity also didn't allow images of Christ for some time.
2) I think Muhammad was already a common name in the region before the prophet Muhammad.
3) No.
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:43:40 PM
1) It might have something to do with not wanting to turn him into an icon. Plus IIRC there is an order by God somewhere either in the Torah or the Quran not to represent animals or people, which people don't strictly obey anymore. Most of Christianity also didn't allow images of Christ for some time.
I think you are right here. I have heard this before. What I forgot to mention in my post, is that the prohibition is concerns
Muslims making images of (prophet) Muhammed as opposed to ordinary, everyday Muhammed. Which gives us an interesting dilemma. Islam also prohibits the eating of pork and the consumption of alcohol, but apparently no one thinks this is 'riot worthy'. I've yet to see any 'Death to Americans who eat bacon' protests, though I wouldn't rule out the possibility.
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:43:40 PM
2) I think Muhammad was already a common name in the region before the prophet Muhammad.
Probably was though, now that the name is associated strongly with a major religious figure, I believe that has a certain influence on the name selection of children, just as people in the west insist on 'good old fashioned traditional names' which are often from the Bible.
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:43:40 PM
3) No.
You're probably right here too....I was just being silly. :p
Quote from: Mangrove on September 21, 2012, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 01:43:40 PM
1) It might have something to do with not wanting to turn him into an icon. Plus IIRC there is an order by God somewhere either in the Torah or the Quran not to represent animals or people, which people don't strictly obey anymore. Most of Christianity also didn't allow images of Christ for some time.
I think you are right here. I have heard this before. What I forgot to mention in my post, is that the prohibition is concerns Muslims making images of (prophet) Muhammed as opposed to ordinary, everyday Muhammed. Which gives us an interesting dilemma. Islam also prohibits the eating of pork and the consumption of alcohol, but apparently no one thinks this is 'riot worthy'. I've yet to see any 'Death to Americans who eat bacon' protests, though I wouldn't rule out the possibility.
One has to do with the "purity" of their religion, the other has to do with the "purity" of the individual. So instead of protesting against bacon they just probably think people who eat it are pigs or stuff (see what I did there? I know, I know, not funny)
so they believe that the actions of other individuals can deface the purity (viability?) of their religion?
I wonder if there's a black market for bacon in Islamic countries.
The obvious solution to this dilemma is to create a picture of the Koran drawing a picture of Muhammad.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 21, 2012, 09:38:43 PM
so they believe that the actions of other individuals can deface the purity (viability?) of their religion?
No. It's because they have nothing else. So they can't tolerate "insults" to their religion, because the alternative to LOSING THEIR SHIT is to sit in their homes and stare at the walls until they go bugshit.
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
The obvious solution to this dilemma is to create a picture of the Koran drawing a picture of Muhammad.
Or of Muhammad drawing himself, Escher-style.
Quote from: Sano on September 21, 2012, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: v3x on September 21, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
The obvious solution to this dilemma is to create a picture of the Koran drawing a picture of Muhammad.
Or of Muhammad drawing himself, Escher-style.
Fractal Artist Muhammad. We need to do this, and mail it to Al Qaeda.
yeah, i know it's just an excuse. (from what i heard from the npr boots on the ground, the large majority of the protesters haven't seen the video in question)
but, that's their pretext? that it actually harms their religion for others to draw cartoons or make crappy videos?
that seems like a lamer achilles heel than being harmed by the color yellow...
certainly they don't claim that we could actually insult their religion to oblivion?
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 21, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
yeah, i know it's just an excuse. (from what i heard from the npr boots on the ground, the large majority of the protesters haven't seen the video in question)
but, that's their pretext? that it actually harms their religion for others to draw cartoons or make crappy videos?
that seems like a lamer achilles heel than being harmed by the color yellow...
certainly they don't claim that we could actually insult their religion to oblivion?
Sounds like a good reason to
try, though.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on September 21, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
yeah, i know it's just an excuse. (from what i heard from the npr boots on the ground, the large majority of the protesters haven't seen the video in question)
but, that's their pretext? that it actually harms their religion for others to draw cartoons or make crappy videos?
that seems like a lamer achilles heel than being harmed by the color yellow...
certainly they don't claim that we could actually insult their religion to oblivion?
Their pretext is crushing poverty and boredom, and a feeling of having no future.
(http://looklex.com/e.o/ill/muhammad04.jpg)
Translation:
Ceci n'est pas un Muhammed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
Oddly useful wiki article.
Especially interesting is that Muhammed is represented in a frieze on the supreme court building. Oh how the teabaggers will love that :lol:
Quote from: Mangrove on September 21, 2012, 10:39:24 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
Oddly useful wiki article.
Especially interesting is that Muhammed is represented in a frieze on the supreme court building. Oh how the teabaggers will love that :lol:
You know, there's something idd about this. I mean, first you've got this obbligation not to draw/paint/whatever the prophet so as not to incur in idolatry. But then it morphs into a belief that the prophet is so sacrossanct that he shouldn't be displayed. Which is idolatry. So... There's a case to be made that to draw pictures of Muhammad would make (at least some) muslims realize this and so drawing the prophet would actually
help them return to the correct religious path. :lulz:
Quote from: Sano on September 22, 2012, 01:16:35 AM
You know, there's something idd about this. I mean, first you've got this obbligation not to draw/paint/whatever the prophet so as not to incur in idolatry. But then it morphs into a belief that the prophet is so sacrossanct that he shouldn't be displayed. Which is idolatry. So... There's a case to be made that to draw pictures of Muhammad would make (at least some) muslims realize this and so drawing the prophet would actually help them return to the correct religious path. :lulz:
Heh. The Hadith only makes sense if you take it as a ban on reverential images of Muhammed. But then you can't be insulting of Muhammed, so the only images you can make opiate of reverential images or the Muslims get pissed. Makes total sense to me.
:lulz: