IT IS SAID THAT AN ISM IS JUST A UNIFORM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ISMISM IS ALSO A UNIFORM, A QUICK FIX, A PIGEONHOLE, A BOX, A WAY TO AVOID THINKING BY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY LABELED "I AM BETTER THAN THAT". IT IS LAZY AND STUPID.
THAT IS ALL.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:22:16 AM
IT IS SAID THAT AN ISM IS JUST A UNIFORM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ISMISM IS ALSO A UNIFORM, A QUICK FIX, A PIGEONHOLE, A BOX, A WAY TO AVOID THINKING BY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY LABELED "I AM BETTER THAN THAT". IT IS LAZY AND STUPID.
THAT IS ALL.
Another tragic case of meme fatigue.
SOMEONE GET THIS WOMAN SOME 4CHAN!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 29, 2012, 04:09:39 AM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:22:16 AM
IT IS SAID THAT AN ISM IS JUST A UNIFORM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ISMISM IS ALSO A UNIFORM, A QUICK FIX, A PIGEONHOLE, A BOX, A WAY TO AVOID THINKING BY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY LABELED "I AM BETTER THAN THAT". IT IS LAZY AND STUPID.
THAT IS ALL.
Another tragic case of meme fatigue.
SOMEONE GET THIS WOMAN SOME 4CHAN!
I CANNAE HANDLE ANYMORE, CAPTAIN!
If someone uses disdain for -isms as an excuse to not think about the problem the -ism was originally intended to address, I agree completely. But I also think there's alot of validity in the idea that people get so caught up in the -ism that they lose sight of why they got into the -ism in the first place.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 29, 2012, 05:32:12 AM
If someone uses disdain for -isms as an excuse to not think about the problem the -ism was originally intended to address, I agree completely. But I also think there's alot of validity in the idea that people get so caught up in the -ism that they lose sight of why they got into the -ism in the first place.
Sure.
Same can be applied to practically anything with any prefix or suffix.
GIVE ME AN INNOCENT PREFIX OR SUFFIX, I WILL BUILD A RELIGION AROUND IT, TO PREVENT HAVING TO THINK.
Fucking thing is, just about anything can be suffixed with -ist, making it an -ism.
LET'S USELESSIFY LANGUAGE FOR MAXIMIZING OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO MANIFEST ARBITRARY DISTINCTIONS
WHERE IS LMNO WHEN I NEED HIM
OF course you are technically correct, but I think the root of the issue is what happens to people who choose to identify themselves first and foremost with an -ism rather than just having it be one aspect of the whole of who they are.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 05:36:44 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 29, 2012, 05:32:12 AM
If someone uses disdain for -isms as an excuse to not think about the problem the -ism was originally intended to address, I agree completely. But I also think there's alot of validity in the idea that people get so caught up in the -ism that they lose sight of why they got into the -ism in the first place.
Sure.
Same can be applied to practically anything with any prefix or suffix.
GIVE ME AN INNOCENT PREFIX OR SUFFIX, I WILL BUILD A RELIGION AROUND IT, TO PREVENT HAVING TO THINK.
Fucking thing is, just about anything can be suffixed with -ist, making it an -ism.
LET'S USELESSIFY LANGUAGE FOR MAXIMIZING OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO MANIFEST ARBITRARY DISTINCTIONS
WHERE IS LMNO WHEN I NEED HIM
I salute you as the Mother of Anti-ismism, oh Revered One!
Also, meet the Father of Anti-ismismism. It's me.
It might seem the kids are beating up on each other in them thar sandpit,
but actually they are getting along just fine.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:22:16 AM
IT IS SAID THAT AN ISM IS JUST A UNIFORM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ISMISM IS ALSO A UNIFORM, A QUICK FIX, A PIGEONHOLE, A BOX, A WAY TO AVOID THINKING BY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY LABELED "I AM BETTER THAN THAT". IT IS LAZY AND STUPID.
THAT IS ALL.
Lazy? Guilty. Stupid? Probably (how would I know?)
Thing is - I don't have the time or the patience to wonder if the asshole who's annoying the piss out of me has a really great reason for being a piss annoying asshole. Could be he was dropped on his head as a baby, could be his mother never breastfed him. Fuck do I care? All I want to do is get him out of my way so's I can get on with getting the other 10,000 assholes standing behind him out of my way, so's I can go about my business.
I use shorthand. I use pigeonholes. It's the scattergun approach and I'm sure that some of the 10,000 assholes might actually not be assholes and I'm dismissing them unfairly. I'm comfortable with that. So I dismiss isms out of hand. I'm sure there's some good ones out there, buried under a mountain of assholes. I genuinely can't bring myself to care.
I think the problem isn't the "ism" as much as the "dogma" that tends to sneak in with it. In the Cultural Appropriation thread, for example, the discussion wasn't "Do you think...", "I think...", "Some people believe..." It was "This is badwrong".
The problem I think has a lot to do with people forgetting that the -ism is their personal interpretation of an idea, or the groupthink interpretation of an idea that they've accepted for themselves. This stuff isn't objectively wrong, its subjectively wrong in the eyes of some people.
Rejecting all dogma and -isms might be an -ism (perhaps Discordianism); but its the kind of -ism that fits with statements like, "I firmly believe its a mistake to hold firm beliefs", so a meta-ism?
Didn't v3x write an excellent piece on the same theme during the Feminism row earlier this year? On isms and asms or something?
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Holy shit, great call out!
And only because you didn't quote it:
QuoteFerris: Not that I condone fascism, or any -ism for that matter. -Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself. I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me." Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 29, 2012, 05:44:43 AM
OF course you are technically correct, but I think the root of the issue is what happens to people who choose to identify themselves first and foremost with an -ism rather than just having it be one aspect of the whole of who they are.
AREN'T THERE ALREADY WORDS FOR THAT? LIKE SHALLOW, TWO-DIMENSIONAL, BORING, INFLEXIBLE, PEDANT GIT?
How I see the whole "ism" conversation usually going:
Ismist: "I SEE AN ISM AND I REJECT IT!"
Me: "Why?"
Ismist: "BECAUSE MENU TERRITORY UNIFORM KEYWORD JARGON"
Me: "Umm... OK".
STOP RUINING WORDS.
I'm going to start making up my own meaning for words. From now on, any word that ends in the suffix -tion is an indicator that the user of that word identifies far too much with a particular action or set of actions. I reject -tions, because -tions are just an excuse to stop thinking.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Actually, he made the exact opposite point than the one I am making, and it was A STUPID FUCKING POINT.
I just want to burn the whole thing with fire. All of it. Into a fiery lake.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 29, 2012, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:22:16 AM
IT IS SAID THAT AN ISM IS JUST A UNIFORM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ISMISM IS ALSO A UNIFORM, A QUICK FIX, A PIGEONHOLE, A BOX, A WAY TO AVOID THINKING BY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY LABELED "I AM BETTER THAN THAT". IT IS LAZY AND STUPID.
THAT IS ALL.
Lazy? Guilty. Stupid? Probably (how would I know?)
Thing is - I don't have the time or the patience to wonder if the asshole who's annoying the piss out of me has a really great reason for being a piss annoying asshole. Could be he was dropped on his head as a baby, could be his mother never breastfed him. Fuck do I care? All I want to do is get him out of my way so's I can get on with getting the other 10,000 assholes standing behind him out of my way, so's I can go about my business.
I use shorthand. I use pigeonholes. It's the scattergun approach and I'm sure that some of the 10,000 assholes might actually not be assholes and I'm dismissing them unfairly. I'm comfortable with that. So I dismiss isms out of hand can't be fucked to think. I'm sure there's some good ones out there, buried under a mountain of assholes. I genuinely can't bring myself to care.
I believe in evolution.
WHAT DO, NIGEL?
LMNO
-The walrus was Paul, for fuck's sake.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Actually, he made the exact opposite point than the one I am making, and it was A STUPID FUCKING POINT.
You are right, I mistook your caps-lock irony for genuine outrage. Hard to tell sometimes. My fault for not reading on.
I agree with your point, actually, though is this really something people get in a bunch over? I mean c'mon people, there is important shit like Chris Brown deleting his Twitter account we could be discussing.
Also, I am gonna start responding twice in a row, even if nobody else has answered yet, like Nigel.
I have additional thoughts and YOU WILL READ THEM SEPARATELY!
Just letting everyone know.
Ok.
[edit: I was going to double post to be cute and annoying, but Nigel's quick response made that impossible. Which is probably a blessing, because it wouldn't have been very funny.]
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Actually, he made the exact opposite point than the one I am making, and it was A STUPID FUCKING POINT.
You are right, I mistook your caps-lock irony for genuine outrage. Hard to tell sometimes. My fault for not reading on.
I agree with your point, actually, though is this really something people get in a bunch over? I mean c'mon people, there is important shit like Chris Brown deleting his Twitter account we could be discussing.
What? There was no irony, the outrage was genuine... maybe a reread of my OP from that perspective would clarify my intention. I genuinely and authentically think that ismism is stupid as fuck; dismissing something because it's suffixed with -ism is a lazy way to avoid thinking and feel smug doing it.
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Also, I am gonna start responding twice in a row, even if nobody else has answered yet, like Nigel.
I have additional thoughts and YOU WILL READ THEM SEPARATELY!
Just letting everyone know.
That's cool. I find it way easier to follow a thread that way. Some people stack a whole bunch of quotes into one response and I find that difficult to parse for some reason.
Also I never know whether I'm going to have a chance to finish a thread or if I'm going to get called away, so I reply one post at a time just in case.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
I genuinely and authentically think that ismism is stupid as fuck; dismissing something because it's suffixed with -ism is a lazy way to avoid thinking and feel smug doing it.
This is true -- however, from a pragmatic point of view, would it be reasonable to say that it may be the
majority of people associated with the ISM are dumbfucks to aren't thinking about the ISM, and you don't want to be associated with
them?
So ISMISM could be a rejection of
non-thinking, passive people, and not necessarily the concept that they're not thinking about?
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 29, 2012, 05:44:43 AM
OF course you are technically correct, but I think the root of the issue is what happens to people who choose to identify themselves first and foremost with an -ism rather than just having it be one aspect of the whole of who they are.
AREN'T THERE ALREADY WORDS FOR THAT? LIKE SHALLOW, TWO-DIMENSIONAL, BORING, INFLEXIBLE, PEDANT GIT?
How I see the whole "ism" conversation usually going:
Ismist: "I SEE AN ISM AND I REJECT IT!"
Me: "Why?"
Ismist: "BECAUSE MENU TERRITORY UNIFORM KEYWORD JARGON"
Me: "Umm... OK".
STOP RUINING WORDS.
Well yeah, but onthe other hand when you come across one of the asstards that engenders that kind of knee-jerk hatred of -isms, it's a whole lot of fun to tell them they're wrong and have their head completely up their ass and when they ask why, rather than give them a well-reasoned argument that they'll just ignore, tell them it's because of a three letter suffix. I mean, I'm usually TRYING to make them lose their shit, so I'm gonna stick with it in that context. Which is really the only context I would ever say that in anyway outside of some PD.com mental masturbation thread.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 29, 2012, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
I genuinely and authentically think that ismism is stupid as fuck; dismissing something because it's suffixed with -ism is a lazy way to avoid thinking and feel smug doing it.
This is true -- however, from a pragmatic point of view, would it be reasonable to say that it may be the majority of people associated with the ISM are dumbfucks to aren't thinking about the ISM, and you don't want to be associated with them?
So ISMISM could be a rejection of non-thinking, passive people, and not necessarily the concept that they're not thinking about?
It could start out that way, but as soon as you make a box for it, it turns into, well, a box. It turns into it's own ism called I REJECT ISMS and becomes a replacement for actual analysis.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 29, 2012, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on November 29, 2012, 05:44:43 AM
OF course you are technically correct, but I think the root of the issue is what happens to people who choose to identify themselves first and foremost with an -ism rather than just having it be one aspect of the whole of who they are.
AREN'T THERE ALREADY WORDS FOR THAT? LIKE SHALLOW, TWO-DIMENSIONAL, BORING, INFLEXIBLE, PEDANT GIT?
How I see the whole "ism" conversation usually going:
Ismist: "I SEE AN ISM AND I REJECT IT!"
Me: "Why?"
Ismist: "BECAUSE MENU TERRITORY UNIFORM KEYWORD JARGON"
Me: "Umm... OK".
STOP RUINING WORDS.
Well yeah, but onthe other hand when you come across one of the asstards that engenders that kind of knee-jerk hatred of -isms, it's a whole lot of fun to tell them they're wrong and have their head completely up their ass and when they ask why, rather than give them a well-reasoned argument that they'll just ignore, tell them it's because of a three letter suffix. I mean, I'm usually TRYING to make them lose their shit, so I'm gonna stick with it in that context. Which is really the only context I would ever say that in anyway outside of some PD.com mental masturbation thread.
Maybe it's just the PD.com mental masturbation threads that are getting to me.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Also, I am gonna start responding twice in a row, even if nobody else has answered yet, like Nigel.
I have additional thoughts and YOU WILL READ THEM SEPARATELY!
Just letting everyone know.
That's cool. I find it way easier to follow a thread that way. Some people stack a whole bunch of quotes into one response and I find that difficult to parse for some reason.
Also I never know whether I'm going to have a chance to finish a thread or if I'm going to get called away, so I reply one post at a time just in case.
Absolutely this. I hate it when someone quotes and replies to multiple people in the same post.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Actually, he made the exact opposite point than the one I am making, and it was A STUPID FUCKING POINT.
You are right, I mistook your caps-lock irony for genuine outrage. Hard to tell sometimes. My fault for not reading on.
I agree with your point, actually, though is this really something people get in a bunch over? I mean c'mon people, there is important shit like Chris Brown deleting his Twitter account we could be discussing.
What? There was no irony, the outrage was genuine... maybe a reread of my OP from that perspective would clarify my intention. I genuinely and authentically think that ismism is stupid as fuck; dismissing something because it's suffixed with -ism is a lazy way to avoid thinking and feel smug doing it.
You are right again, I missed the ismism part and took it as irony, though I believe I still did get your general point the second time.
I dunno, doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but I guess if you run into it often enough it could become grating. I'm not sure why people get so hung up on the intricasies of the language, rather than thinking about the ideas behind the language. I get that language is important, since we need to understand one another to communicate, but why people get worked up in minutiae, while either ignoring the ideas therein, or even contradicting the intended meaning... I have no idea.
I'm having a hard time collecting my thoughts today, and am no help to this thread - my apologies for mucking it up.
I think I agree with you Nigel?
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Also, I am gonna start responding twice in a row, even if nobody else has answered yet, like Nigel.
I have additional thoughts and YOU WILL READ THEM SEPARATELY!
Just letting everyone know.
That's cool. I find it way easier to follow a thread that way. Some people stack a whole bunch of quotes into one response and I find that difficult to parse for some reason.
Also I never know whether I'm going to have a chance to finish a thread or if I'm going to get called away, so I reply one post at a time just in case.
I was just messing with ya, Nigel. :wink:
:| I'm not ignoring the argument. I read it and have been thinking about it since last night. I WILL pick it up when I have time.
Also, I acknowledged that it's my opinion that it's wrong. But like half my arguments are perpetually ignored, so whatever. I'm not surprised. Frustrated, but not surprised. It was the same in the feminism thread about half the time.
I pretty much agree with Nigel.
I'm honestly not saying this to pick on you, but you tend to come off as "I'm telling you what's right, why aren't you simpletons agreeing with me?!?" about some of this stuff. Alot of people, especially people here at PD, will respond negatively or not at all if that's the tone they're getting out of someone. That you get ignored in those situations is probably a mark of respect since otherwise there would be hostile responses.
I could be way off base, but I have the same problem when I'm talking to people in real life and I think I recognize the same thing going on here.
I can see how I might come off that way. I'm not meaning to, though, and I'll try to pay more attention to how I sound.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:02:21 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 29, 2012, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 03:22:16 AM
IT IS SAID THAT AN ISM IS JUST A UNIFORM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ISMISM IS ALSO A UNIFORM, A QUICK FIX, A PIGEONHOLE, A BOX, A WAY TO AVOID THINKING BY PUTTING EVERYTHING IN A CERTAIN CATEGORY LABELED "I AM BETTER THAN THAT". IT IS LAZY AND STUPID.
THAT IS ALL.
Lazy? Guilty. Stupid? Probably (how would I know?)
Thing is - I don't have the time or the patience to wonder if the asshole who's annoying the piss out of me has a really great reason for being a piss annoying asshole. Could be he was dropped on his head as a baby, could be his mother never breastfed him. Fuck do I care? All I want to do is get him out of my way so's I can get on with getting the other 10,000 assholes standing behind him out of my way, so's I can go about my business.
I use shorthand. I use pigeonholes. It's the scattergun approach and I'm sure that some of the 10,000 assholes might actually not be assholes and I'm dismissing them unfairly. I'm comfortable with that. So I dismiss isms out of hand can't be fucked to think. I'm sure there's some good ones out there, buried under a mountain of assholes. I genuinely can't bring myself to care.
WTG - looks like you understood my post :retard:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on November 29, 2012, 04:04:35 PM
I believe in evolution.
WHAT DO, NIGEL?
LMNO
-The walrus was Paul, for fuck's sake.
EVOLUTIONIST! BURN THE WITCH!
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
Also, I am gonna start responding twice in a row, even if nobody else has answered yet, like Nigel.
I have additional thoughts and YOU WILL READ THEM SEPARATELY!
Just letting everyone know.
That's cool. I find it way easier to follow a thread that way. Some people stack a whole bunch of quotes into one response and I find that difficult to parse for some reason.
Also I never know whether I'm going to have a chance to finish a thread or if I'm going to get called away, so I reply one post at a time just in case.
I was just messing with ya, Nigel. :wink:
<3
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:34:34 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 04:10:08 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on November 29, 2012, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on November 29, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
I would like to politely point out that Ferris Bueller made this point twenty-five years ago. When will people start listening to Ferris?
Actually, he made the exact opposite point than the one I am making, and it was A STUPID FUCKING POINT.
You are right, I mistook your caps-lock irony for genuine outrage. Hard to tell sometimes. My fault for not reading on.
I agree with your point, actually, though is this really something people get in a bunch over? I mean c'mon people, there is important shit like Chris Brown deleting his Twitter account we could be discussing.
What? There was no irony, the outrage was genuine... maybe a reread of my OP from that perspective would clarify my intention. I genuinely and authentically think that ismism is stupid as fuck; dismissing something because it's suffixed with -ism is a lazy way to avoid thinking and feel smug doing it.
You are right again, I missed the ismism part and took it as irony, though I believe I still did get your general point the second time.
I dunno, doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but I guess if you run into it often enough it could become grating. I'm not sure why people get so hung up on the intricasies of the language, rather than thinking about the ideas behind the language. I get that language is important, since we need to understand one another to communicate, but why people get worked up in minutiae, while either ignoring the ideas therein, or even contradicting the intended meaning... I have no idea.
I'm having a hard time collecting my thoughts today, and am no help to this thread - my apologies for mucking it up.
I think I agree with you Nigel?
The bolded part. This a million billion times.
Well, there's a simple way to prove OP.
1. If an ism can be found that isn't a collection of lemmings, then the OP is correct in saying that dismissing something as an "ism" is just another way of not thinking.
2. If an ism that isn't a collection of lemmings can't be found, then the OP is unproven (but not DISPROVEN, as absence of evidence doesn't mean evidence of absence).
Uh, you're always gonna get a mix of lemmings and non-lemmings. In damn near every group, no matter what. The larger the group, the more lemmings, but there will always be a significant portion that isn't lemmings.
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on November 30, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
Uh, you're always gonna get a mix of lemmings and non-lemmings. In damn near every group, no matter what. The larger the group, the more lemmings, but there will always be a significant portion that isn't lemmings.
No argument. I don't hold the majority accountable for the morons, and neither does any other reasonable person. So we just need an example.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 09:53:53 PM
Well, there's a simple way to prove OP.
1. If an ism can be found that isn't a collection of lemmings, then the OP is correct in saying that dismissing something as an "ism" is just another way of not thinking.
I'm the only one here that doesn't have a problem with not thinking about it? I don't do causes. Plain and simple. I act the way I act. I don't do a whole bunch of stuff that causes want me to "fight" for other people to stop doing. Congratulations. If it makes it better for ya, I don't mind if you pretend I used to do the shit but stopped on account of a "message" getting through to me. There you go - now I'm a positive result.
I steer clear of "isms" on purpose. A large part of steering clear involves not thinking about them. Including ones where I agree with what they want to happen I just don't want it as bad, or maybe I already have it.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on November 30, 2012, 10:47:25 PM
I'm the only one here that doesn't have a problem with not thinking about it? I don't do causes.
Well, after today, I think I have to concur.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on November 30, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
Uh, you're always gonna get a mix of lemmings and non-lemmings. In damn near every group, no matter what. The larger the group, the more lemmings, but there will always be a significant portion that isn't lemmings.
No argument. I don't hold the majority accountable for the morons, and neither does any other reasonable person. So we just need an example.
Heroism; skepticism; astigmatism
Quote from: MMIX on December 01, 2012, 01:59:03 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 30, 2012, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on November 30, 2012, 10:11:38 PM
Uh, you're always gonna get a mix of lemmings and non-lemmings. In damn near every group, no matter what. The larger the group, the more lemmings, but there will always be a significant portion that isn't lemmings.
No argument. I don't hold the majority accountable for the morons, and neither does any other reasonable person. So we just need an example.
Heroism; skepticism; astigmatism
See? BAM! Nigel's case proven.
How hard was that?
It's just a suffix.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on December 01, 2012, 05:01:45 AM
It's just a suffix.
That sounds like the wisest thing i have ever heard.
I want it on a t-shirt.
I want it on a tile in my toilet.
I want it tattooed on my ass.
I think my brain is broken :(
Organism!
Wait but lemmings are organisms. Oh, but not all organisms are lemmings so it's okay.
Wait, but we're all organisms without even trying to be.
Quote from: :regret: on December 02, 2012, 08:33:30 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on December 01, 2012, 05:01:45 AM
It's just a suffix.
That sounds like the wisest thing i have ever heard.
I want it on a t-shirt.
I want it on a tile in my toilet.
I want it tattooed on my ass.
I think my brain is broken :(
:lulz:
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 02, 2012, 09:27:57 PM
Organism!
Wait but lemmings are organisms. Oh, but not all organisms are lemmings so it's okay.
Wait, but we're all organisms without even trying to be.
I'm an organism with astigmatism. I've tried vegetarianism and paganism but eventually I found that locavorism and discordianism are more in line with my philosophical and biological prism.
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on December 03, 2012, 04:17:43 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 02, 2012, 09:27:57 PM
Organism!
Wait but lemmings are organisms. Oh, but not all organisms are lemmings so it's okay.
Wait, but we're all organisms without even trying to be.
I'm an organism with astigmatism. I've tried vegetarianism and paganism but eventually I found that locavorism and discordianism are more in line with my philosophical and biological prism.
:asplode:
In this context, though, organism is a red herring.
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 03, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
In this context, though, organism is a red herring.
I think you mean a red herring is an organism.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on December 03, 2012, 01:57:02 PM
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 03, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
In this context, though, organism is a red herring.
I think you mean a red herring is an organism.
No, no, organism is the wide-spread medical belief that healing a human being is to be done through healing individual organs!
It is not a red herring at all.
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 03, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
In this context, though, organism is a red herring.
Your attempt at pedantry loses. Look it up in an etymology dictionary.
I thought organism was what organists believed in?
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on December 04, 2012, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 03, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
In this context, though, organism is a red herring.
Your attempt at pedantry loses. Look it up in an etymology dictionary.
Looked it up. I think I understand now.
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 04, 2012, 12:07:30 PM
Quote from: FROTISTED FUDGE CAK on December 04, 2012, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: Lenin McCarthy on December 03, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
In this context, though, organism is a red herring.
Your attempt at pedantry loses. Look it up in an etymology dictionary.
Looked it up. I think I understand now.
Yeah.
It
actually is just a suffix.
Quote from: Pæs on December 04, 2012, 03:17:31 AM
I thought organism was what organists believed in?
That, and it is also the disorder that The Man Who Mistook His Wife For His Liver suffered from.