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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Cain on January 21, 2013, 08:29:04 PM

Title: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2013, 08:29:04 PM
Once seen as a symbol of youth culture and Japanese soft power, Hello Kitty has now become an inspirational figure to terrorist masterminds all over the world, including this nefarious five year old from Pennsylvania:

Link (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341686)

QuoteA 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl was suspended from kindergarten after she allegedly threatened to shoot herself and a friend with a pink plastic Hello Kitty bubble gun.

Officials at Mount Carmel Area Elementary School in Mount Carmel labeled the unnamed girl a "terrorist threat" over the January 10 incident, which occurred while she and a friend were waiting in line for a school bus, according to PennLive.

Robin Ficker, an attorney for the girl's parents, said the girl told her friend, "I'm going to shoot you and I will shoot myself" with her Hello Kitty bubble gun, which she didn't even have with her.

School officials then questioned both girls, grilling them for half an hour without their parents present. After the interrogation, the would-be 'shooter' was labeled a "terrorist threat" and suspended for 10 days. The school also ordered the kindergartner to be examined by a psychologist.

You'll notice how she cunningly threatened her helpless victims while the gun was not even present.  Truly a criminal genius.  Had it not been for the alertness and bravery of school officials, we could be mourning another tragic terrorist atrocity in America today.  God bless them, and their far-sighted actions.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Juana on January 21, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
:facepalm: :lulz: I can't.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 08:53:59 PM
QuoteFicker asked the school principal to overturn the girl's suspension, but he refused. He did reduce the charge against her from terrorism to "threatening to harm another student." Her suspension was also shortened from 10 to 2 days.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341686#ixzz2Ie4xL1kw

I love that "terrorism" is an established charge in the kindergarten disciplinary system. I want to work at a kindergarten where the "Why was little Jimmy sent home today?" spreadsheet has a drop down for "bomb threats, biting, throwing toys, possession of lethal chemical agent".
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
If the offender had been armed with the weapon in question at the time of the threat, would it have been reasonable for one of the newly armed teachers to shoot her?
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?
DON'T YOU WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE SAFE?

WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST TERRORISTS NOW AND KEEP THEM OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS FOR AT LEAST TEN DAYS BEFORE ALLOWING THEM TO RETURN.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Cain on January 21, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
Of course not!

The teacher and other students should bullrush the armed student (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/17/there-s-little-we-can-do-to-prevent-another-massacre.html).
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 09:03:22 PM
That kid has street cred for the rest of her life.

Some kid:  "I smoked when I was 12!"

This kid:  "I WAS DETAINED FOR TERRORISM WHEN I WAS 5.  FUCK OFF!"

On the other hand, she is now fucked over in every other way.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on January 21, 2013, 09:04:37 PM
IF WE LET OUR CHILDREN HAVE HELLO KITTY BUBBLE GUNS, SOON THEY WILL DEMAND HELLO KITTY KALASHNIKOVS. (http://www.glamguns.com/hk47.html)

Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 09:10:17 PM
Obviously, we need new legislation cracking down on Hello Kitty ownership.

Especially the military-grade stuff.  Assault Kitties (the ones with pistol grips).
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Dear Mr and Mrs Oh, I don't know, probably Muhammad Hussein or something,

We regret to inform you that in order to protect our students from your terrorist daughter we have had to suspend her for ten days. We hope that at the end of this suspension period, she can return to school, no longer a terrorist.

Regards,

Ms. Susan Nestico
Principal
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 09:16:25 PM
QuoteFicker said he was hired because the girl's mother read that he had handled a similar case in Maryland. In that case, he represented a 6-year-old boy who was suspended by an elementary school for pointing at another student with his fingers folded like a gun and saying "pow."

School authorities called it a "serious incident," and said the boy "threatened to shoot" the other student.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Don Coyote on January 21, 2013, 09:26:41 PM
(http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/ShootingKitty1.jpg)
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2013, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 21, 2013, 08:29:04 PM
Once seen as a symbol of youth culture and Japanese soft power, Hello Kitty has now become an inspirational figure to terrorist masterminds all over the world, including this nefarious five year old from Pennsylvania:

Link (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/341686)

QuoteA 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl was suspended from kindergarten after she allegedly threatened to shoot herself and a friend with a pink plastic Hello Kitty bubble gun.

Officials at Mount Carmel Area Elementary School in Mount Carmel labeled the unnamed girl a "terrorist threat" over the January 10 incident, which occurred while she and a friend were waiting in line for a school bus, according to PennLive.

Robin Ficker, an attorney for the girl's parents, said the girl told her friend, "I'm going to shoot you and I will shoot myself" with her Hello Kitty bubble gun, which she didn't even have with her.

School officials then questioned both girls, grilling them for half an hour without their parents present. After the interrogation, the would-be 'shooter' was labeled a "terrorist threat" and suspended for 10 days. The school also ordered the kindergartner to be examined by a psychologist.

You'll notice how she cunningly threatened her helpless victims while the gun was not even present.  Truly a criminal genius.  Had it not been for the alertness and bravery of school officials, we could be mourning another tragic terrorist atrocity in America today.  God bless them, and their far-sighted actions.

Clearly, the solution to this kind of mindless kindergarten violence is to ban bubble guns.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Salty on January 21, 2013, 10:04:29 PM
Not far enough, think of all the lives we will save if we ban children!
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 21, 2013, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: Alty on January 21, 2013, 10:04:29 PM
Not far enough, think of all the lives we will save if we ban children!

ZOMG!@
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 10:30:52 PM
I want to create a pention to ban children from our schools.

Something about having to prep ourselfs from terrorists who will use our own children against us

or

:?
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 21, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Quote from: Pæs on January 21, 2013, 10:30:52 PM
I want to create a pention to ban children from our schools.

Something about having to prep ourselfs from terrorists who will use our own children against us

or

:?

BAN EVERYBODY

ZERO TOLERANCE ZERO TOLDERANCE ZERO TOLERANCE
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 22, 2013, 02:09:30 AM
Banning is perfectly constitutional. The second amendment says we have the right to bear arms not hello kitty arms.

Lmno give us your guns. We have a right to them.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Ben Shapiro on January 22, 2013, 07:43:57 AM
(http://media-cache-ec5.pinterest.com/upload/32369691041910400_kJat5wx9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.

Which was the exact response by my little sister. Home schooled both children now one is ready to graduate from college.

So things have to be measured a little weirdly these days.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:24:52 PM
They tried that shit on my son when he was in 3rd grade.

"He needs ritalin."

"Can I see your MD or other neuroscience credentials, please?"

"What?"

"Go shit in your hat."
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
Yeah,

My sister, took my nephew to the doctor, he walked into the waiting room and saw the kid reading a magazine and said get him out of here.

Nothing like medical doping to replace discipline.

I remember hearing "Sit down and shut up!" along with the threat of the paddle to keep my dumb ass in line.

oh the good old days...
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Bu🤠ns on January 22, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:24:52 PM
They tried that shit on my son when he was in 3rd grade.

"He needs ritalin."

"Can I see your MD or other neuroscience credentials, please?"

"What?"

"Go shit in your hat."

They actually said that?  I thought that a school couldn't actually say that.  Or were they more subtle about it?

Burns,

Gets a quality education from this thread alone.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on January 22, 2013, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
Yeah,

My sister, took my nephew to the doctor, he walked into the waiting room and saw the kid reading a magazine and said get him out of here.

Nothing like medical doping to replace discipline.

I remember hearing "Sit down and shut up!" along with the threat of the paddle to keep my dumb ass in line.

oh the good old days...

I went to a Catholic school when corporal punishment was not allowed.

Nuns are pretty creative about their punishments though. Public shaming and such.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Suu on January 22, 2013, 03:39:38 PM
That poor fucking kid is going to be on every list for the rest of her life. Because of a bubble gun.

Fuck yeah.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on January 22, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:24:52 PM
They tried that shit on my son when he was in 3rd grade.

"He needs ritalin."

"Can I see your MD or other neuroscience credentials, please?"

"What?"

"Go shit in your hat."

They actually said that?  I thought that a school couldn't actually say that.  Or were they more subtle about it?

Burns,

Gets a quality education from this thread alone.

This was in Batavia, Illinois, proud manufacturer of the nations' drug craze.

NOW, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW A GRADE SCHOOL KID HAS HAD TIME TO DEVELOP A PERSONALITY DISORDER?

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 22, 2013, 03:57:11 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:24:52 PM
They tried that shit on my son when he was in 3rd grade.

"He needs ritalin."

"Can I see your MD or other neuroscience credentials, please?"

"What?"

"Go shit in your hat."

Mass did it too, when my kid was in kindergarten.

I ended up having to get a doctor's note that essentially said "Go shit in your hat."
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 03:59:06 PM
Well, what we have here is the institutionalized fucking up of childrens' heads, as directed by teachers and staff with no medical training.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mangrove on January 22, 2013, 04:25:41 PM
Step Mang #4 was considered a 'borderline' candidate for medication by his school. Mrs Mang heard all sorts of scary shit about Ritalin and opted for 'go shit in your hat' also.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.

Yeah. Let me point out that most parents CHOOSE to send their kid to these schools, and tolerate/accept their dictations. Furthermore, most parents side with the school if there are any issues.

My son was punished for scratching the lettering off a pen. PUNISHED. I buy those fucking pens. I pay for them. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with them as far as I'm concerned.

The most important point I've ever made to the school is that they don't want to see me, ever, at all, that I will get both sides of the story before I pass judgement, and that if for some reason I have to go there I will not side with the teachers just because they think they're the authority, and what will happen is that nobody will be happy. I will make sure that nobody is happy for several years.

They actually made it a pain in my ass when I withdrew EFO from her high school. They tried to charge me for her books, which she left in the classrooms and (justifiably, IMO) refused to go back in to collect.

No.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 22, 2013, 04:44:44 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 22, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 21, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
How can a SCHOOL order a psych eval?

WHAT THE GIBBERING FUCK?

Our public schools here in Colorado have been able to order psych eval's for over the last decade. Nine out of twelve boys in my nephew's first grade class were on ritalin and the remaining three were forced to visit a doctor or face getting kicked out of school.

If that isn't bad enough the schools here are "equipped" with a padded room.

Yep for real.

Welcome to America.

Jesus fuck.

I now have to reconsider my opinion on home schooling.

Yeah. Let me point out that most parents CHOOSE to send their kid to these schools, and tolerate/accept their dictations. Furthermore, most parents side with the school if there are any issues.

My son was punished for scratching the lettering off a pen. PUNISHED. I buy those fucking pens. I pay for them. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with them as far as I'm concerned.

The most important point I've ever made to the school is that they don't want to see me, ever, at all, that I will get both sides of the story before I pass judgement, and that if for some reason I have to go there I will not side with the teachers just because they think they're the authority, and what will happen is that nobody will be happy. I will make sure that nobody is happy for several years.

They actually made it a pain in my ass when I withdrew EFO from her high school. They tried to charge me for her books, which she left in the classrooms and (justifiably, IMO) refused to go back in to collect.

No.

I know it's overdone, but :mittens:

(Don't know how many times a school has tried to bill me $75 (!) for a textbook that they had in their possession. Once they tried to say a book was ruined because it had waterspots from when my daughter got caught in the rain ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL.)
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 22, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 03:44:29 PM

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.

I guess it depends what you want them to develop into :tinfoilhat:
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 22, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 22, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 03:44:29 PM

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.

I guess it depends what you want them to develop into :tinfoilhat:

(http://blog.syracuse.com/storefront/2008/10/walmartsquare.JPG)

(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/86/95/86956eab597d8ed972c18a672433ffce.jpg)

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Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Suu on January 22, 2013, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: Queef Erisson on January 22, 2013, 03:25:31 PM
Quote from: zen_magick on January 22, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
Yeah,

My sister, took my nephew to the doctor, he walked into the waiting room and saw the kid reading a magazine and said get him out of here.

Nothing like medical doping to replace discipline.

I remember hearing "Sit down and shut up!" along with the threat of the paddle to keep my dumb ass in line.

oh the good old days...

I went to a Catholic school when corporal punishment was not allowed.

Nuns are pretty creative about their punishments though. Public shaming and such.

I got a ruler across my knuckles for not paying attention once. ONCE. I think that's why my handwriting is so perfect. Other than that, this was the teacher that also told us the Holocaust never happened, so...I don't think she was allowed to do that.

At the same Catholic school, my brother (textbook ADHD) was humiliated by his 2nd grade teacher all the time because she was a self-loathing bitch who hated boys. I don't remember exactly what, but it had something to do with him accidentally dropping his Ritalin pill when the nurse came in to give it to him daily, and making him stand in front of the class as, "If you were a normal boy, you wouldn't HAVE to take pills in school." The nurse told my parents, and we were ripped out of the school and back in public school the next year. I do remember getting in a lot of trouble once because she called my brother stupid to his face in the courtyard during recess, and I overheard, and starting yelling at her.

Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on January 22, 2013, 05:56:15 PM
My primary three teacher lobbed a set of keys at me. The lesson I taught her was what happens when you throw something sharp and heavy at someone with far superior reactions and aim than you. The lesson I learned was - doesn't matter a fuck who wins the fight if the loser has authority. Was worth it to see that mark on her face for the rest of the week, tho.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 06:34:52 PM
Quote from: Wuli Fufu on January 22, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on January 22, 2013, 05:15:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 03:44:29 PM

Also, nobody can tell me we're not fucking up kids' development by medicating NORMAL FUCKING BEHAVIOR OUT OF THEM.

I guess it depends what you want them to develop into :tinfoilhat:

(http://blog.syracuse.com/storefront/2008/10/walmartsquare.JPG)

Burn it all down.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Salty on January 22, 2013, 06:52:54 PM
 :lol:

My 6th grade teacher would throw staplers and three hole punches at students. one special day took a particularly troubled student, made him pull a garbage can to the middle of the class room and get in it, then told him, in front of everybody, that he was trash.

My kids not going to regular public school.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Elder Iptuous on January 22, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
what's the pic of the carnival barker in the grocery store about?

Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
And we wonder why there are school shootings.

My friend's son is autistic and hates being the focus of attention. HATES it. He also hates being touched. So in third grade, his teacher decides he just needs to be "brought out of his shell" so she put him at the front of the class, called on him constantly, and made a point of ruffling his hair or touching his shoulders every time she walked past him.

The thing is, there are good teachers. There are excellent teachers. But an awful lot of smart, kind, compassionate people who like working with kids look at the qualifications they would need to get there, the salary they would receive if they did, and the conditions they would have to work in, and they make the decision to go into psychology or sociology or social work instead, where they feel like they have half a chance of actually making a difference. That leaves an awful lot of room in the field for sub-par power-trippers who get off on controlling and tormenting children, and that is, in my opinion, the majority of what we end up with.

Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Salty on January 22, 2013, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 22, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
And we wonder why there are school shootings.

My friend's son is autistic and hates being the focus of attention. HATES it. He also hates being touched. So in third grade, his teacher decides he just needs to be "brought out of his shell" so she put him at the front of the class, called on him constantly, and made a point of ruffling his hair or touching his shoulders every time she walked past him.

The thing is, there are good teachers. There are excellent teachers. But an awful lot of smart, kind, compassionate people who like working with kids look at the qualifications they would need to get there, the salary they would receive if they did, and the conditions they would have to work in, and they make the decision to go into psychology or sociology or social work instead, where they feel like they have half a chance of actually making a difference. That leaves an awful lot of room in the field for sub-par power-trippers who get off on controlling and tormenting children, and that is, in my opinion, the majority of what we end up with.

This.all of it. We need a ban on fucked up educational infrastructure.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mangrove on January 22, 2013, 08:46:18 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 22, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
And we wonder why there are school shootings.

My friend's son is autistic and hates being the focus of attention. HATES it. He also hates being touched. So in third grade, his teacher decides he just needs to be "brought out of his shell" so she put him at the front of the class, called on him constantly, and made a point of ruffling his hair or touching his shoulders every time she walked past him.

The thing is, there are good teachers. There are excellent teachers. But an awful lot of smart, kind, compassionate people who like working with kids look at the qualifications they would need to get there, the salary they would receive if they did, and the conditions they would have to work in, and they make the decision to go into psychology or sociology or social work instead, where they feel like they have half a chance of actually making a difference. That leaves an awful lot of room in the field for sub-par power-trippers who get off on controlling and tormenting children, and that is, in my opinion, the majority of what we end up with.

:walken:

This is like treating lung cancer with cigarettes.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2013, 08:47:50 PM
...Did she know he was autistic? If she did, what the fuck?
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 22, 2013, 09:01:56 PM
It was obvious, but since he didn't have a formal diagnosis or an IEP she chose not to "believe in it".
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Juana on January 22, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
What the fuck.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on January 22, 2013, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on January 22, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
what's the pic of the carnival barker in the grocery store about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJwrlF8AzmA

Yep. Burn it all down.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on January 22, 2013, 10:03:38 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on January 22, 2013, 09:01:56 PM
It was obvious, but since he didn't have a formal diagnosis or an IEP she chose not to "believe in it".

Had a teacher, back in Illinois IIRC, who didn't believe a kid had a peanut allergy.  This was in the 90s.  She pressured the kid into eating peanut butter sandwiches with all the other kids, saying something about how he was "just making things up".  The kid died.  I don't remember if she was charged or not.

Thing is, teachers are not doctors.  If they can't get that through their heads, then they have no business being in charge of children.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Cain on February 09, 2013, 11:53:46 AM
More dangerous criminality, heroically prevented in American schools

http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/01/18/cops-nab-five-year-old-wearing-wrong-color-shoes-school?cmpid=tp-ad-outbrain-general

QuoteIn Mississippi, if kindergarteners violate the dress code or act out in class, they may end up in the back of a police car.

A story about one five-year-old particularly stands out. The little boy was required to wear black shoes to school. Because he didn't have black shoes, his mom used a marker to cover up his white and red sneakers. A bit of red and white were still noticeable, so the child was taken home by the cops.

The child was escorted out of school so he and his mother would be taught a lesson.

Ridiculous? Perhaps. But incidents such as this are happening across Mississippi. A new report, "Handcuffs on Success: The Extreme School Discipline Crisis in Mississippi Public Schools," exposes just how bad it's become.
Title: Re: The terrorist threat has evolved
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 09, 2013, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 09, 2013, 11:53:46 AM
More dangerous criminality, heroically prevented in American schools

http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/01/18/cops-nab-five-year-old-wearing-wrong-color-shoes-school?cmpid=tp-ad-outbrain-general

QuoteIn Mississippi, if kindergarteners violate the dress code or act out in class, they may end up in the back of a police car.

A story about one five-year-old particularly stands out. The little boy was required to wear black shoes to school. Because he didn't have black shoes, his mom used a marker to cover up his white and red sneakers. A bit of red and white were still noticeable, so the child was taken home by the cops.

The child was escorted out of school so he and his mother would be taught a lesson.

Ridiculous? Perhaps. But incidents such as this are happening across Mississippi. A new report, "Handcuffs on Success: The Extreme School Discipline Crisis in Mississippi Public Schools," exposes just how bad it's become.

Oh FFS.