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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 03:14:58 AM

Title: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 03:14:58 AM
Has anybody read it? I'm thinking about buying a copy, but it's quite steep. I've heard it's pretty far out there in terms of quasi-mysticism, which is why he never sought publication for it during his lifetime, but I'm really curious about it.

Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: EK WAFFLR on February 08, 2013, 11:48:57 AM
It's the incredibly large, and expanded version of his Seven Sermons to the Dead. I like it.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Richter on February 08, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 08, 2013, 03:14:58 AM
Has anybody read it? I'm thinking about buying a copy, but it's quite steep. I've heard it's pretty far out there in terms of quasi-mysticism, which is why he never sought publication for it during his lifetime, but I'm really curious about it.

I've been through bits of it.  Still trying to form an opinion on it.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 04:22:11 PM
Cool... I just need to see if I can snag a full copy for less than $120. I'll probably pick up the reader's edition as well, as a companion volume, but from everything I hear his illustrations are really vital to getting the full experience.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on February 08, 2013, 04:25:03 PM
http://doctoromed.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jung-red-book-twk1.jpg (http://doctoromed.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jung-red-book-twk1.jpg)

Plenty on google images. I like. Reminds me of ancient alchemical manuscripts.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: MMMW on February 08, 2013, 06:14:29 PM
I looked through it at a book store, while one of the employees breathed down my neck. It's beautiful in a Thus Spoke Zarathustra kind of way but with pictures. I want!
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Richter on February 08, 2013, 07:49:07 PM
hxxp://www.stillnessspeaks.com/assets/books/Red_Book_by_Jung.pdf

Finishing up scans, and paging through the file.  SEEMS complete so far.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 08:07:22 PM
Cool, thanks Richter! I can look this over while deciding whether I can afford to splurge on the real thing.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Richter on February 08, 2013, 08:10:23 PM
I'm torn by that same question with free or "Liberated" books, especially with works this elaborate.  (which led to me dropping $60 on a lavishly illustrated 1600's fencing manual 2 years back)
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 08:19:16 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 08, 2013, 08:10:23 PM
I'm torn by that same question with free or "Liberated" books, especially with works this elaborate.  (which led to me dropping $60 on a lavishly illustrated 1600's fencing manual 2 years back)

I know... in this case, especially since it's not like I can read it. I wish the reader version had at least the major illustrations.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Richter on February 08, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
That link looks like it has those plus translation. still reading through it amidst distractions.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 08:47:37 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 08, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
That link looks like it has those plus translation. still reading through it amidst distractions.

It does. I guess I should be more clear; I wish the paper version of the translation included the major illustrations inline, for easier contextualization. I probably won't ever read it on the computer screen, because of eye fatigue and back fatigue issues.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mangrove on February 08, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
I do own the Red Book, have read some of it but not much. It is a truly remarkable piece of work. A couple of summers ago, Mrs Mang & I heard a weekend presentation by Dr Stephan Hoeller, an expert on Jung, especially where Jung's work intersects with Gnosticism. The amount of detail and context that he provides makes tackling this book a lot easier. (I took a shit load of notes)

A few weeks ago I went to a presentation at our local Jungian society. I was introduced to some old dude who's name I cannot recall, but I was told that he was one of the translators for the Red Book.

Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 08, 2013, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on February 08, 2013, 09:10:51 PM
I do own the Red Book, have read some of it but not much. It is a truly remarkable piece of work. A couple of summers ago, Mrs Mang & I heard a weekend presentation by Dr Stephan Hoeller, an expert on Jung, especially where Jung's work intersects with Gnosticism. The amount of detail and context that he provides makes tackling this book a lot easier. (I took a shit load of notes)

A few weeks ago I went to a presentation at our local Jungian society. I was introduced to some old dude who's name I cannot recall, but I was told that he was one of the translators for the Red Book.

That's cool!

I need to read some of his other work before I tackle it, I think. It'll come in handy for my major anyway.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Richter on February 08, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on February 08, 2013, 08:47:37 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 08, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
That link looks like it has those plus translation. still reading through it amidst distractions.

It does. I guess I should be more clear; I wish the paper version of the translation included the major illustrations inline, for easier contextualization. I probably won't ever read it on the computer screen, because of eye fatigue and back fatigue issues.

Totally agree.  I'd love to see someone re-do the calligraphy in english.  It would be a labor of love though.
Title: Re: Jung's Red Book
Post by: Mangrove on February 09, 2013, 02:07:24 AM
http://bcrecordings.net/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=62&zenid=l85jcc6lc44s7b0ier773r03l6

Here's a source for Dr Hoeller's lecture material. Given that I'm up to my ass in snow, I might post some of my notes (as long as we don't lose power).