Anyone else amused and slightly disgusted by the 10 year rememberances in the press of, well, why we shouldn't ever trust the press?
Ezra Klein seems to have taken the most (http://jacobbacharach.wordpress.com/2013/03/20/heroes_in_error/) shit (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/03/how-write-iraq-war-apologia/63341/) for his terrible article (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-19/mistakes-excuses-and-painful-lessons-from-the-iraq-war.html), and rightfully so, but this 2002 line from Nicholas Kristof is
amazing:
QuotePresident Bush has convinced me that there is no philosophical reason we should not overthrow the Iraqi government.
LOL, yeah. 10 years ago we liberated a country from it's evil and insane dictator. So lemme get this straight - freedom looks like plumes of black smoke, rising from rubble that used to be buildings?
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 21, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
LOL, yeah. 10 years ago we liberated a country from it's evil and insane dictator. So lemme get this straight - freedom looks like plumes of black smoke, rising from rubble that used to be buildings?
Freedom looks like no-bid contracts. We used up all the freedom in Iraq, so it was time to leave.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 21, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 21, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
LOL, yeah. 10 years ago we liberated a country from it's evil and insane dictator. So lemme get this straight - freedom looks like plumes of black smoke, rising from rubble that used to be buildings?
Freedom looks like no-bid contracts. We used up all the freedom in Iraq, so it was time to leave.
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yeah, i'd noticed that, too. actually pretty frustrating.
i picked up some blurb somewhere about whether the existence of twitter would have prevented drumming up the war, with the implication that the press had a monopoly on the megaphone that they no longer have.
Hah, yes, because Twitter totally isn't dominated by a few extremely well connected and vocal media establishment jerkoffs. At all. Nuh uh.
Nor did the media hire the most vocal and prominent pro-war bloggers of the time. You know, except "Jane Galt", Yglesias, Klein etc...
And they totally haven't engaged in 10 years of relentless hippie-bashing, which has only increased as the rightness of the anti-war activists has been confirmed.
But, you know, they're really sorry and stuff, and they only had the best intentions in mind, and really they were being very reasonable and rational about the whole thing, unlike the damn hippies, who only got it right by accident.
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on March 21, 2013, 02:28:58 PM
yeah, i'd noticed that, too. actually pretty frustrating.
i picked up some blurb somewhere about whether the existence of twitter would have prevented drumming up the war, with the implication that the press had a monopoly on the megaphone that they no longer have.
Maybe, but I doubt it would have had that kind of influence.
That assessment is, of course, based primarily on cynicism and the ease with which the Internet can be psyched into a Moral Panic ("We gotta free Iraq from Hussein!").
yeah.
that's the sense that i get.
i'm really glad they've changed and would only tell us that we should get behind the next war if it were actually a good and necessary one.
I'm colouring my Twitter avatar with a black background, to represent all that oil we're going to liberate from Saddam Hussein!
Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2013, 02:39:02 PM
I'm colouring my Twitter avatar with a black background, to represent all that oil we're going to liberate from Saddam Hussein!
#FreedomEverywhere #EndOppression #AmericaKnowsBest
#GLOBALMANIFESTDESTINY
This is the one I was thinking of.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/LOLVomit_zps1f0f3456.gif)
Quote from: Emo Howard on March 23, 2013, 02:56:12 AM
This is the one I was thinking of.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/LOLVomit_zps1f0f3456.gif)
:lulz: