The perfectly loyal and good citizens with nothing to hide have nothing to fear!
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130402/02150622543/homeland-security-fusion-center-director-were-not-spying-americans-just-anti-government-americans.shtml
and a link to an article about the congressional report on fusion centers:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121002/22020120576/congressional-investigation-slams-dhs-anti-terror-centers-wasted-taxpayer-funds-created-no-useful-intelligence-violated-civil.shtml
Also apparently they misplaced 1.4 billion dollars and bought way more flat screen tvs and SUVs than even congress thinks was appropriate.
Okay, it's going to look like I'm going to go over to the corner of the room and curl up in a fetal postition but........well I'm not sure how to finish that sentence.
Blocked.
Verify that with another site?
http://nwahomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=415892
I think that's the local news site where they first interviewed the guy. He does seem to be heavily implying that antigovernment folks aren't real citizens. You would think that they would have taught their PR folks to lie a little more about what they're doing. Here's another link to a similar story.
http://reason.com/24-7/2013/04/01/fusion-centers-spy-on-anti-government-am
I'll try to find a link to that congress report later this afternoon but I have a patient here. Lousy hospital patients, you'd think they were sick or something....oh wait. I should probably see what they want. :)
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/10-2-12FUSIONCENTERS.pdf
That should be a pdf version of the report. I admit I have not read it all although the jist seems to be that fusion centers cost a lot, learned almost nothing, and probably violated some civil rights.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/homeland-security-fusion-centers_n_1933998.html
THANK YOU, JESUS.
Hey...you know what I think we need now? A new war. It'll totally fix the economy.
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THANK YOU, JESUS.
Hey...you know what I think we need now? A new war. It'll totally fix the economy.
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I think I feel an emote coming on...
So, like, a huge number of Americans?
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 04, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
So, like, a huge number of Americans?
No, they're not Americans. They're anti-American subversive citizens,
who happen to be American.
Big difference.
Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 04, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
So, like, a huge number of Americans?
No, they're not Americans. They're anti-American subversive citizens, who happen to be American.
Big difference.
Aaah, right.
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 04, 2013, 10:00:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 04, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 04, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
So, like, a huge number of Americans?
No, they're not Americans. They're anti-American subversive citizens, who happen to be American.
Big difference.
Aaah, right.
To be fair, it's our own fault. I distinctly remember being told the following many times in the last decade or so:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/03/us/inquiry-cites-flaws-in-regional-counterterrorism-offices.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
More hilarity here.
QuoteThe investigators also discovered that federal officials cannot account for as much as $1.4 billion in taxpayer money earmarked for fusion centers and that some of the centers listed on paper by the Homeland Security Department do not even exist.
QuoteThe Department of Homeland Security provided only one week of training to officials assigned to sift through tips and uncorroborated information about American citizens that came into their offices.
QuoteTop officials of the Homeland Security Department have known about the problems for years, but hid an internal department report on the program's flaws from Congress while continuing to tell lawmakers and the public that the fusion centers were highly valuable and that they formed the centerpiece of Homeland Security's counter-terrorism efforts. A 2010 internal assessment by the department discovered, for instance, that four of its claimed 72 fusion centers did not exist, even as department officials kept using the 72 figure publicly with Congress.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130404/03230222574/new-evidence-homeland-security-spied-peaceful-protestors-worried-about-protests-getting-news-coverage.shtml
Also apparently making sure that peaceful protests didn't get media attention was a priority for these centers.
QuoteThe documents show a Department of Homeland Security that appears obsessed with the question of whether any and all protests that are being surveilled receive media attention and coverage. Reporting within the DHS on media coverage of First Amendment protected activities, even in the smallest places, appears to be a routine part of DHS intelligence reports. None of the documents explain why media coverage of peaceful demonstrations is of interest to law enforcement or concerns "homeland security" in any way.
I feel safer already.
Oh good.
And we thought WND and all those Survivalists were confused when they were warning about the concentration camps in the midwest... Now we know,, they're for all those anti-American subversive American citizens.
:tinfoil:
Well how else are they gonna know when we're all in one place for the drone strike?
I, for one, would like to take this chance to denounce all of you as anti-American subversives.
Should be good for a buck or two.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
I, for one, would like to take this chance to denounce all of you as anti-American subversives.
Should be good for a buck or two.
Too late. I'm already on ALL THE LISTS.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 05, 2013, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2013, 08:53:11 PM
I, for one, would like to take this chance to denounce all of you as anti-American subversives.
Should be good for a buck or two.
Too late. I'm already on ALL THE LISTS.
I was on the permanent SSSS list from 2003 until Bush left office, for things I said in print.
I consider it a bit of a badge of honor.
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 05, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
And we thought WND and all those Survivalists were confused when they were warning about the concentration camps in the midwest... Now we know,, they're for all those anti-American subversive American citizens.
:tinfoil:
If DHS runs the camps the same way they run the fusion centers, then some of the camps will only exist on paper. If you're caught, try to get sentenced to one of those.
Quote from: deadfong on April 05, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 05, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
And we thought WND and all those Survivalists were confused when they were warning about the concentration camps in the midwest... Now we know,, they're for all those anti-American subversive American citizens.
:tinfoil:
If DHS runs the camps the same way they run the fusion centers, then some of the camps will only exist on paper. If you're caught, try to get sentenced to one of those.
Hell, no. That sounds like a good way to get shot "trying to escape".
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: deadfong on April 05, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 05, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
And we thought WND and all those Survivalists were confused when they were warning about the concentration camps in the midwest... Now we know,, they're for all those anti-American subversive American citizens.
:tinfoil:
If DHS runs the camps the same way they run the fusion centers, then some of the camps will only exist on paper. If you're caught, try to get sentenced to one of those.
Hell, no. That sounds like a good way to get shot "trying to escape".
Hmm, yeah. Hadn't considered that angle.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 05, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: deadfong on April 05, 2013, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 05, 2013, 06:18:26 PM
And we thought WND and all those Survivalists were confused when they were warning about the concentration camps in the midwest... Now we know,, they're for all those anti-American subversive American citizens.
:tinfoil:
If DHS runs the camps the same way they run the fusion centers, then some of the camps will only exist on paper. If you're caught, try to get sentenced to one of those.
Hell, no. That sounds like a good way to get shot "trying to escape".
Sure, but not before you make a detour to Denver and kill some bureaucrat in the prison system first. Allegedly.