http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155
THATCHER DEAD.
This is literally the first bit of news that I've seen a whole office react in the same way towards.
For those in London, enjoy the parties.
Lies.
Thatcher didn't die. Thatcher can never die.
Credible eyewitness reports suggest she was lifted unto heaven by a chorus of angels, led by Augusto Pinochet and Pieter Willem Botha.
Well that's close enough to how the "National Sentiment" is going to be portrayed.
Turns out that her son's misdeeds are not as forgotten as I'd expected too. Brilliant.
I couldn't help but notice that on the same day Thatcher's death is declared, UK milk producers are rationing some of their products, according to the BBC.
I am suitably amused.
Curse you Cain, you beat me to the punch. The irony is unbelievable.
(http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/55979/1244821337/ThatcherStroke.gif)
She died decades ago. I really hope an adequate binding pentagram was in place or the demon infesting her body will find a new host.
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 08, 2013, 01:09:45 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22067155
THATCHER DEAD.
Wow.
I don't know what to say about this. It's like hearing that Vlad Tepes died or something. A bogeyman from my youth who turned out to be as mortal as anyone else.
I am strangely sad.
i'm not sad. I am waiting for Payne to come home and instead we shall mourn the state she left the UK, British socialism and the working class.
Anyone for a drink, and Elvis Costello's Tramp The Dirt Down? My house, BYOB.
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
i'm not sad.
I am, sort of. She was a horrible monster, to the point of being Great (Chelsea Handler's please do not confuse this with "good"). She was an evil titan, and she and Reagan shaped the entire world I spent my young adulthood in.
She was a fiend. I think we all agree on that.
One thing she wasn't was
small. And the world has become a
small place, these days.
In the face of adversity Never compromise, even when no one stands to gain from doing so.
The only thing I'm sad about today is the fact that I'm drunk before 4pm on such a momentus day and only has phone internets.
I need a keyboard, real nets, moar wine and a copy of "Chavs- the demonisation of the working class" by Owen Jones. To spout into Twitter with intermittent drunk tweets about her stealing my recess milk after kindegarten year. (We brits do not use those terms in schooling, i translated them for you spagsE
oh fuck.
2 american FB feminist pages are getting all misty over this.
Really need a keyboard and moar booze.
Rog, did you just reference Chelsea Handler?
"I hate feminism. it is poison"
- some powerful woman who died today
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 05:36:02 PM
oh fuck.
2 american FB feminist pages are getting all misty over this.
Really need a keyboard and moar booze.
I think they need a correction. Which ones?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 08, 2013, 05:59:14 PM
Rog, did you just reference Chelsea Handler?
Don't know. Who is Chelsea Handler?
The only fucking tragedy here is that all the real shit around Hillsborough and various other events is now likely to come out in the next couple of years.
Watch the glowing tributes roll in, just how fucking evil this foul "human" was will be revealed eventually.
Savile, Thatcher... It's a good year for Miners.
"No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions; he had money as well."
(London Weekend Television, 1/6/80)
More laffs:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/08/17654349-the-quotable-thatcher-15-of-her-best-quips?lite
Best Thatcher obituary available here
http://septicisle1.blogspot.com/2013/04/death-to-penguins.html
Quote from: Cain on April 08, 2013, 08:06:47 PM
Best Thatcher obituary available here
http://septicisle1.blogspot.com/2013/04/death-to-penguins.html
Blocked. Ex-post? Is it at least as good as HST's send off for Nixon?
QuoteMADAM JOSEPHINE STARCHER DIES
GREATEST WOMAN TO HAVE EVER LIVED, DECLARE TORIES
GREATEST WOMAN TO HAVE EVER LIVED, DECLARE BLAIRITES
GREATEST WOMAN TO HAVE EVER LIVED, DECLARE LABOUR MPS TOLD TO BE ON BEST BEHAVIOUR
PARTY IN GEORGE SQUARE, DECLARES WHOLE OF SCOTLAND
WHO'S JOSEPHINE STARCHER, ASKS EVERYONE UNDER 16
Madam Josephine Starcher, the first and so far only female British prime minister has died at the age of 106, her chief propagandist Lord Ho Ho has announced.
Struggling to hold back the tears and dressed entirely in black, the normally jovial Ho Ho delivered his message to the massed ranks of the British press, knowing that this was a truly historic moment. "This is a truly historic moment. Madam Starcher is dead. She choked on a Ritz cracker. Mark and Carol Starcher have asked for the utmost media intrusion at this time. As a supporter of a free press, it's what their mother would have wanted."
From humble upbringings, born into a family of fish gutters, Madam Starcher rose to be one of the defining political personalities of the 20th century. Abandoning a career in turning the windmill round at the local crazy golf course, she joined the Conservative party, influenced heavily by the political philosophy of the German panel beater Herman von Paddle Steamer. Realising that his aquatic based economics were rather antediluvian, she soon settled on the far more sensible writings of Fredrich von Hayek.
First selected by the Tories to contest the safe Silly Party seat of Luton, she nonetheless succeeded in reducing their majority by first 10 and then a further 5 votes. It was not until 8 years later that she finally entered parliament, having won the London seat of Finchley thanks to a mistake on the ballot which listed her as the Ayn Rand Continuity party candidate. The electorate were rather miffed at first to have elected someone so moderate, but soon took Starcher to their hearts.
Starcher's first taste of real power was as education secretary in the Conservative government of 1970. Given the position by noted sailor and bon vivant Samuel O' Beckett, who approved of her past flirtation with the works of von Paddle Steamer, she excelled in the job, with her decision to introduce Turkey Twizzlers onto the lunch menu of every school in the country welcomed by all, especially newspaper owner Sir Bernard Matthews.
Rising to become leader of the party after O' Beckett mysteriously fell off a barge into the Grand Union Canal, she fought both sexism and the patronising mentality within the Conservatives, many of whom kept mistaking her for the char woman right up until her resignation in 1990. She nonetheless led the Conservatives to victory in 79, the Labour party's policy of discounting tents for summer holidays having been a unmitigated disaster for the country.
Once ensconced in Downing Street, she set about introducing reforms which were controversial from the outset. At first, it seemed as though her policy of "Voucherism", whereby money was abolished and vouchers given out instead was leading Britain towards ruin, as unemployment increased by 25 million and a 6 hour week had to be put in place. Criticised and cajoled by the "damps" in her cabinet, she gradually reintroduced money and later claimed that she had never supported voucherism at all.
Despite this set back, her first term came to be defined by the Rockall war. The tiny island was invaded in 1982 by penguins who declared a socialist state, much to the dismay of the local population of British gannets. Intervening on the side of the gannets, who she believed shared her political philosophy, the war lasted 30 minutes and cost the lives of approximately 59 penguins. 1 British soldier took a peck to the groin. The successful action came to be the seen as the turning point in the party's fortunes, and the slogan "death to penguins" was a rallying cry for young Conservatives everywhere during the 83 election campaign.
Her second term was dominated at first by a strike by sewage workers, whose campaign of civil disobedience came to a head when they almost killed Starcher with a massive "shit cannon" blast in Brighton. After defeating their leader Captain Crabs, she set about privatising much of the country's infrastructure, starting with the state owned glass eye maker. Her victory in the 87 election assured, concerns began to be raised that power had gone to her head. Her edict that every man, woman and the child in the country with the exception of nuns and the insane had to cut off their left ear, legislation that became known as the "ear tax", resulted in riots in Victory Square. Challenged for the leadership of the party by Didbin Jane, she failed to win on the first ballot and was persuaded to stand down, leaving Number 10 with noticeably wet armpits.
In a sign of the unanimity of feeling across the political spectrum, a joint statement on Starcher's death has been issued on behalf of David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Griffin and Nigel Farage:
"Truly, Starcher was the queen of hearts. She cured the blind, healed the sick, and only once did she call for everyone to cut off their left ear. Her successes were numerous, and the country was transformed from the hell hole it was in 79 to the paradise it continues to be today. She literally single-handedly defeated the Soviet Union, the evil empire collapsing like a pack of cards with one swish of her right hook, while she also established the enterprise culture that today means anyone can take out a payday loan on an APR rate of 600,000%. We hope that all will join us in saying one last time, death to penguins!"
Nick Clegg was unavailable.
The response elsewhere has been mixed. In Scotland, where many of her policies were first tested out, a mass event appears to be taking place in Glasgow's George Square, although reports are unclear about whether or not the mass drinking is usual for a Monday. Also indifferent it seems are the young, many of whom appear to be unaware of the legacy left for the country by Starcher. One 15-year-old asked for his opinion merely grunted and then walked off, while a 17-year-old left the following message on Twitter:
"Everyone in politics is a fucking fag."
"Rising to become leader of the party after O' Beckett mysteriously fell off a barge into the Grand Union Canal, she fought both sexism and the patronising mentality within the Conservatives, many of whom kept mistaking her for the char woman right up until her resignation in 1990."
:lulz:
QuoteStruggling to hold back the tears and dressed entirely in black, the normally jovial Ho Ho delivered his message to the massed ranks of the British press, knowing that this was a truly historic moment. "This is a truly historic moment. Madam Starcher is dead. She choked on a Ritz cracker. Mark and Carol Starcher have asked for the utmost media intrusion at this time. As a supporter of a free press, it's what their mother would have wanted."
I got that far and broke down in tears of laughter. Wonderful.
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 08, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 05:36:02 PM
oh fuck.
2 american FB feminist pages are getting all misty over this.
Really need a keyboard and moar booze.
I think they need a correction. Which ones?
Third Wave Feminism and Feminists United? I canlt tell as well on phone and being drunk.
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 08, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 05:36:02 PM
oh fuck.
2 american FB feminist pages are getting all misty over this.
Really need a keyboard and moar booze.
I think they need a correction. Which ones?
Third Wave Feminism and Feminists United? I canlt tell as well on phone and being drunk.
TWF didn't post about her at all, FU did, but sort of in a neutrally sense.
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 08, 2013, 08:30:48 PM
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: Juana Go? on April 08, 2013, 06:47:14 PM
Quote from: Pixie on April 08, 2013, 05:36:02 PM
oh fuck.
2 american FB feminist pages are getting all misty over this.
Really need a keyboard and moar booze.
I think they need a correction. Which ones?
Third Wave Feminism and Feminists United? I canlt tell as well on phone and being drunk.
TWF didn't post about her at all, FU did, but sort of in a neutrally sense.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=450996871647773&set=a.284117865002342.64798.284095951671200&type=1&comment_id=1036032&offset=0&total_comments=101&ref=notif¬if_t=photo_reply&theater
laugh of all laughs. they relpy to Sheridan (my dude friend from HFC) and not me.
Well the decision has been made for a State funeral. That should be entertaining.
The feeling is still pretty strong here. You could probably solve a nice chunk of the deficit by planning this right and charging to piss on the grave. Current speculation is it will need 24 guarding.
http://hampshirefeministcollective.co.uk/2013/04/09/an-open-letter-to-american-feminists-on-the-death-of-margaret-thatcher/
That's brilliant! Cheers pixie.
went viral like a motherfucker, too.
I'm like, "I helped write this thing thats got 3000+ page hits since, about 7 hours ago.
the yanks, they annoyed me, I went on a spamming mission, attracted a wingnut / troll on the HFC fb page, and LO! my most read piece of writing.
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/glenda_jackson_denounces_heinous_thatcherism_in_house_of_commons_tirade
I caught that late last night. Tirade is pretty much spot on really.
On a somewhat lighter note, just imagine this circus when Blair shuffles off.
HO HO HO
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/police-ask-margaret-thatcher-protesters-to-identify-themselves-8567948.html?fb_action_ids=10151848483681258&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210151848483681258%22%3A181333268692044%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151848483681258%22%3A%22news.reads%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
QuoteThe Metropolitan Police has asked groups planning to demonstrate during or in advance of Margaret Thatcher's funeral to make themselves known to officers so that their "right to protest can be upheld".
The call, which echoes similar ones made in the run-up to the Olympics, is an attempt to avoid any outbreak of violence or public order issues which might threaten to mar the funeral procession. However, the suggestion will anger those who say the right to protest should not need prior authorisation by police.
HO HO HO
I wonder if the police will slip up and shoot someone before Wednesday. It's overdue.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 11, 2013, 05:44:51 AM
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/glenda_jackson_denounces_heinous_thatcherism_in_house_of_commons_tirade
Fucking Spot On.
Quote from: Pixie on April 09, 2013, 04:04:55 PM
http://hampshirefeministcollective.co.uk/2013/04/09/an-open-letter-to-american-feminists-on-the-death-of-margaret-thatcher/
Rock on, Pixie!
More HO HO HO
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/apr/11/mark-thatcher
QuoteOne of this week's more surreal sights has been the reappearance in England of Mark Thatcher, who will be chief mourner at the forthcoming official funeral of his mother.
The now 59-year-old – who was convicted in South Africa in 2005 over his involvement in a failed coup in Equatorial Guinea – has achieved a certain fresh respectability in the eyes of the world, by now being entitled to call himself "Sir" Mark.
The title is a consequence of the bestowal on his father Denis, in Mrs Thatcher's own resignation honours as prime minister, of an unusual hereditary baronetcy. When his father died in 2003, the title passed to Mark: it was thus the last of several favours his mother did for him, thanks to her position.
He is now reported to spend much of his time in the fashionable Spanish resort of Marbella and was relaxing in Barbados when news came of his mother's death. Sir Mark, titular head of the Thatcher family, was speaking earlier this week of the "very sad moment" of his mother's death, in what must have been his first formal interview before the UK's TV cameras since his rather embittered exile from the UK almost 30 years before.
His departure in 1984 followed the first of what were to be many scrapes. A career as a would-be rally driver ended when he got lost in the Sahara desert, and had to be rescued at considerable expense. Then, following a political scandal, it was decided by the then prime minister's PR advisers that Mark would do well to leave the country.
For those unfamiliar with this particular piece of shit, have a google. Then watch everyone line up to treat him like a fucking prince for a day. I've sneezed things with more integrity.
Oh, and UKspags, this explains why the Daily mail is even more batshit than normal:
QuoteOn the credit side, however, Mark appeared to find new happiness in 2008, when he married Sarah Clemence, a wealthy widow and sister-in-law of the Daily Mail's proprietor, Lord Rothermere, in a discreet ceremony in Gibraltar.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: Pixie on April 09, 2013, 04:04:55 PM
http://hampshirefeministcollective.co.uk/2013/04/09/an-open-letter-to-american-feminists-on-the-death-of-margaret-thatcher/
Rock on, Pixie!
11,000 hits on the blog since forever, 80%+ were in the last 2 days. I got a little irate.
Scargill reaction to Thatcher death:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22112688
Can't blame the muted response, I doubt I'd want a media hate shitstorm on my doorstep at 75.
Finally getting some traction (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-jimmy-saviles-close-friendship-with-margaret-thatcher-8432351.html):
QuoteNotes on the file show that several pages were removed and material from other entries deleted for 40 years by officials using exemptions under the Freedom of Information Act on 11 October this year – a week after ITV broadcast a documentary revealing allegations of sexual assault against Savile. Sources told The Independent that the redactions were not relevant to Operation Yewtree, the ongoing Scotland Yard investigation into Savile's crimes which has since uncovered 450 potential victims. It is understood the redacted material, which includes a note of a telephone message and letter from Savile to Mrs Thatcher, has not been passed to police.
The file casts light on the way the broadcaster curried favour in political circles and was granted invitations to Chequers. The file shows that Savile was also written to personally by Mrs Thatcher a year earlier to assure him that his desire for a change in the covenant system for charities was being given her personal attention. A change along the lines suggested by Savile was eventually included in the Budget.
There are six notes throughout the dossier stating that material has been "deleted and closed" for a further 40 years under exemptions granted by the FOI act. It is understood that the exemptions used by officials in the Cabinet Office cover an obligation to withhold personal information and information given in confidence.
QuoteThere are six notes throughout the dossier stating that material has been "deleted and closed" for a further 40 years under exemptions granted by the FOI act. It is understood that the exemptions used by officials in the Cabinet Office cover an obligation to withhold personal information and information given in confidence.
Well that just about covers everything.
Yeah, that's pretty much the idea :lulz:
Where's Julian Assange when you need him?
NSFWCorp (https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/maggie-was-not-the-problem/):
QuoteMargaret Thatcher was always a woman of myth. During her time as prime minister, feminists joked that she was a man — no woman could be as evil as she, for goodness's sake. Thatcher was a cipher. Otherwise stony-faced, politically correct lefties and student union equality officers were given carte blanche to let their misogyny run wild, while right-wing nut-jobs pretended she never backtracked despite the fact that she had to say "whoops, sorry vicar!" on monetarism and the poll tax, all the while increasing spending and strengthening those parts of the state she approved of.
Alas, in death her myth will grow, just as it grew once she was out of power and the left proved it couldn't even defeat her successor, John Major, the least charismatic former acrobat ever to have run away from the circus.
There is, however, one thing on which all of us – left and right – can agree. One legacy for which Margaret Thatcher should, and must, be judged. Her greatest crime, and the one for we should never forgive her.
Margaret Thatcher inspired the music of Billy Bragg.
:spittake:
genius!
Perhaps this is repost, but I liked this article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/09/russell-brand-margaret-thatcher
I love this bit:
QuoteThe blunt, pathetic reality today is that a little old lady has died, who in the winter of her life had to water roses alone under police supervision. If you behave like there's no such thing as society, in the end there isn't. Her death must be sad for the handful of people she was nice to and the rich people who got richer under her stewardship. It isn't sad for anyone else. There are pangs of nostalgia, yes, because for me she's all tied up with Hi-De-Hi and Speak and Spell and Blockbusters and "follow the bear". What is more troubling is my inability to ascertain where my own selfishness ends and her neo-liberal inculcation begins. All of us that grew up under Thatcher were taught that it is good to be selfish, that other people's pain is not your problem, that pain is in fact a weakness and suffering is deserved and shameful. Perhaps there is resentment because the clemency and respect that are being mawkishly displayed now by some and haughtily demanded of the rest of us at the impending, solemn ceremonial funeral, are values that her government and policies sought to annihilate.
It has a little bit of that human frailty, the sorrow of being such a monster that in the end you die unloved and without community.
It is the kind of thing that makes me reflect that ultimately, it's not that we are glad she died, so much as sorry that she was ever alive in the first place. And that just makes me feel... heavy inside, and sad.
Again, I have extremely mixed views on her life and death.
She was a monster. Nobody outside of Parliament thinks differently...But she was a HUGE monster, a terra-stomping, 169% genuine BAD GUY, and all of our bad guys today are small.
Some Native American nation or other had a saying about how "you are judged by the strength of your enemies". Might have been the Sioux, I don't know. But anyway, the world might be better without her, but it's smaller. It feels weird. I'm not sure I like it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 12, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
Again, I have extremely mixed views on her life and death.
She was a monster. Nobody outside of Parliament thinks differently...But she was a HUGE monster, a terra-stomping, 169% genuine BAD GUY, and all of our bad guys today are small.
Some Native American nation or other had a saying about how "you are judged by the strength of your enemies". Might have been the Sioux, I don't know. But anyway, the world might be better without her, but it's smaller. It feels weird. I'm not sure I like it.
Well, now we have Putin.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 10:25:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 12, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
Again, I have extremely mixed views on her life and death.
She was a monster. Nobody outside of Parliament thinks differently...But she was a HUGE monster, a terra-stomping, 169% genuine BAD GUY, and all of our bad guys today are small.
Some Native American nation or other had a saying about how "you are judged by the strength of your enemies". Might have been the Sioux, I don't know. But anyway, the world might be better without her, but it's smaller. It feels weird. I'm not sure I like it.
Well, now we have Putin.
Putin is a superhero. He's off RIGHT NOW, smashing an Earth-bound meteor to bits.
LOOK GRATEFUL.
Has the GOP not started shitting itself about Hilary yet? I'd expect that the be the next obvious dem move to fuck them over. It'll probably spawn the same kind of feeling if it happened.
You win when you flunk. :lol:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/10005579/How-Thatcherite-are-you-Take-the-test.html