I've been reading about the peleo diet. I have many thoughts and am still looking through it, so I'll have more.
Firstly, I don't see any flat out unhealthy and dangerous advice there, provided the user does not cram their bodies with as much fruit as they can manage.
Secondly, the better researched, better thought out resources I found agree that, obviously, dairy is fine to consume, especially if it is cultured. Yogurt is hella good for you, if you avoid the cheap, syrupy shit. Cheddar cheese is good for you, it helps regulate bacteria in your mouth. Milk itself is different, as it is so high in lactose, and I think we can all agree that lactose isn't all that fucking swell...BUT...
Thirdly, grains. We haven't had access to grains (as we typically enjoy it in the civilized worked) as we do now until very recently in our DNA's history, so the argument goes.
And I can see their point, especially with regard to inflammation. I get it. We need fat, we are fatty acids deep down, trying to get laid, we need more fat to make that fat. Apes and cows and shit ferment food in their bellies to make fat. FAT FAT FAT. All those carbs, they don't make US as efficiently as straight up fat.
But the thing of it is, we have only been very interesting since about the same time we DID start eating grains. Because we are not simple mammals hopping to and fro in the delights of the "natural" world. No, we are mean, predatory, meat eating savage apes. We are the worst kinds of motherfucking scum in the animal kingdom, and I find that empowering.
The point was....
Oh yeah, grains MAKE you GO. And they are cheap, easy to store, multifaceted in use/application/form, easier to control than livestock or fruit trees, fill you up, and allow you to stretch beyond your reach.
And, shit man, that's what MAKES us human. We reach beyond what we can see, beyond what we can do. That's our nature. If the fox is cunning and the rabbit afraid and the lion fearless, we reach beyond our ability.
And we do it dirty when we do it. Just look at how much we have to shit in our own house to get to the stars. Grains are the fossil fuels your body uses to boost to the motherfucking SCIENCE! that will enable you to DO.
Also, a person can only eat so many sweet potatoes.
Uh....here's an infographic?
http://cdn.business2community.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Evolution-Paleo-Diet-Tips.jpg
Quote from: Alty on April 10, 2013, 07:20:48 PM
But the thing of it is, we have only been very interesting since about the same time we DID start eating grains. Because we are not simple mammals hopping to and fro in the delights of the "natural" world. No, we are mean, predatory, meat eating savage apes. We are the worst kinds of motherfucking scum in the animal kingdom, and I find that empowering.
We are the weaponized ape. We are no longer the creatures we were hundreds of thousands of years ago. Or even 10,000 years ago.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 09:18:29 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 10, 2013, 07:20:48 PM
But the thing of it is, we have only been very interesting since about the same time we DID start eating grains. Because we are not simple mammals hopping to and fro in the delights of the "natural" world. No, we are mean, predatory, meat eating savage apes. We are the worst kinds of motherfucking scum in the animal kingdom, and I find that empowering.
We are the weaponized ape. We are no longer the creatures we were hundreds of thousands of years ago. Or even 10,000 years ago.
YES. Our DNA may or may want to live in harmony, but it wants to spread regardless. Things don't evolve because they do the same damned thing in the same damned condition for the entirety if their existence. We change, and we can DIRECT that change.
Weaponized Ape, I like that.
These guys think they knowThe Answer to obesity. I don't trust anybody like that.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 10, 2013, 09:33:03 PM
These guys think they knowThe Answer to obesity. I don't trust anybody like that.
I know the answer.
1. Get your thyroid checked. If that's okay,
2. Eat less, exercise more.
#2 is a good idea no matter what.
While obesity is a concern addressed by this diet, I do not think it is the main purpose. The primary goal appears to be better nutrient absorbtion and reduction of inflammation at the cellular level. Which, this diet SHOULD accomplish.
I'm saying some inflammation got us to the moon.
Quote from: Alty on April 10, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
While obesity is a concern addressed by this diet, I do not think it is the main purpose. The primary goal appears to be better nutrient absorbtion and reduction of inflammation at the cellular level. Which, this diet SHOULD accomplish.
I'm saying some inflammation got us to the moon.
I'm saying that inflammation is ALL I HAVE LEFT. :mad:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 10, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
While obesity is a concern addressed by this diet, I do not think it is the main purpose. The primary goal appears to be better nutrient absorbtion and reduction of inflammation at the cellular level. Which, this diet SHOULD accomplish.
I'm saying some inflammation got us to the moon.
I'm saying that inflammation is ALL I HAVE LEFT. :mad:
:lulz:
Perhaps that's what draws Utopians unto you like so many fruit flies. Its what draws us all into Tucson. Like a vibrating bumblebee dance of DOOM and FUN.
Quote from: Alty on April 10, 2013, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 10, 2013, 10:43:00 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 10, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
While obesity is a concern addressed by this diet, I do not think it is the main purpose. The primary goal appears to be better nutrient absorbtion and reduction of inflammation at the cellular level. Which, this diet SHOULD accomplish.
I'm saying some inflammation got us to the moon.
I'm saying that inflammation is ALL I HAVE LEFT. :mad:
:lulz:
Perhaps that's what draws Utopians unto you like so many fruit flies. Its what draws us all into Tucson. Like a vibrating bumblebee dance of DOOM and FUN.
Damn straight. Grouchy apes make the world FUN.
I need to know a lit more science before I can really address this "inflammation" issue, but
1. A lot of foods are "inflammatory".
2. We are learning that genetic adaptations can take place as quickly as a single generation due to protein binding.
3. If dogs adapted to be able to better digest cooked grains in their relatively short association with humans, why the fuck wouldn't we, when we invented the shit?
4. It reeks of pseudoscience and bullshit.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
I need to know a lit more science before I can really address this "inflammation" issue, but
1. A lot of foods are "inflammatory".
2. We are learning that genetic adaptations can take place as quickly as a single generation due to protein binding.
3. If dogs adapted to be able to better digest cooked grains in their relatively short association with humans, why the fuck wouldn't we, when we invented the shit?
4. It reeks of pseudoscience and bullshit.
To the last, yes. But with my limited understanding of science the best way to sort through these things is to give it to you people.
Please do share anything you find, I will do the same. .
There's a lot.of.mixed info out there, much of it seeming based of Weston A Price's Nutritionand Degenerative somethinf something, which funnily enough, I bought the other day. That shit was written in 1930 something if my faulty memory serves correctly.
Actually, aside from the grains thing, it seems fairly sound with regard to fat, types of fat.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 02:29:24 AM
I need to know a lit more science before I can really address this "inflammation" issue, but
1. A lot of foods are "inflammatory".
2. We are learning that genetic adaptations can take place as quickly as a single generation due to protein binding.
3. If dogs adapted to be able to better digest cooked grains in their relatively short association with humans, why the fuck wouldn't we, when we invented the shit?
4. It reeks of pseudoscience and bullshit.
I smell...TROLLBAIT!
ALTY, GRAB US THE LINK!
That sounds like fun. I'll see if I can hunt down some peleonerds and we will SCIENCE! them good and hard .
YES
Due to my irritation with the "Maybe it's gluten!" crowd, I have been pondering inventing some food intolerance, but it has to be to something that's incredibly common and incredibly innocuous, that isn't already a thing.
Turns out, sugar, whey, fat, nightshades, corn, etc. have all been done. I don't think anyone's done rice yet, but it's got the lead thing going on and also it's a grain. I considered olive oil, but that's too easy to avoid.
Then it struck me... ALLIUMS. I don't think anyone's done alliums yet. This is a super-plausible one, because they are lilies, and many lilies are poisonous. It goes without saying that they're inflammatory. Further, lots of things are flavored with onions and garlic and chives and scallions and shallots and leeks, and avoiding them altogether will make food bland and suck.
PLUS
a fair number of people actually do have serious allergic reactions to alliums (GOD LIFE MUST SUCK FOR THEM!) just like there are people with severe gluten intolerances and allergies. So, to support my "OMG are you sure it isn't alliums???" campaign, I can point people to existing forums and articles on allium allergy.
I will call this new food problem "Allium Sensitivity".
I plan to use it to troll glutard forums, telling them that I thought my problems were caused by gluten but it turned out I'm Allium Sensitive. I will be the special flower. They will all want to be me.
WATCH OUT, WORLD. MOVE OVER, "NIGHTSHADE SENSITIVES". A NEW DIETARY CRAZE IS COMING YOUR WAY.
You could also go with purines.
Nominally, they can cause gout in large doses, but you could claim SUPER GOUT, because purines are in just about anything you eat.
hxxp://paleohacks.com/#axzz2QAh9Z1CG
Here's a good place to start. Same people who made the infographic.
This guy
hxxp://paleodietlifestyle.com/
is where I found most of the information that wasn't a complete moron with a blog. One gem I found went like:
"If you have strong PETA morals, just forgo dairy altogether."
WAT.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 05:08:17 PM
Due to my irritation with the "Maybe it's gluten!" crowd, I have been pondering inventing some food intolerance, but it has to be to something that's incredibly common and incredibly innocuous, that isn't already a thing.
Turns out, sugar, whey, fat, nightshades, corn, etc. have all been done. I don't think anyone's done rice yet, but it's got the lead thing going on and also it's a grain. I considered olive oil, but that's too easy to avoid.
Then it struck me... ALLIUMS. I don't think anyone's done alliums yet. This is a super-plausible one, because they are lilies, and many lilies are poisonous. It goes without saying that they're inflammatory. Further, lots of things are flavored with onions and garlic and chives and scallions and shallots and leeks, and avoiding them altogether will make food bland and suck.
PLUS
a fair number of people actually do have serious allergic reactions to alliums (GOD LIFE MUST SUCK FOR THEM!) just like there are people with severe gluten intolerances and allergies. So, to support my "OMG are you sure it isn't alliums???" campaign, I can point people to existing forums and articles on allium allergy.
I will call this new food problem "Allium Sensitivity".
I plan to use it to troll glutard forums, telling them that I thought my problems were caused by gluten but it turned out I'm Allium Sensitive. I will be the special flower. They will all want to be me.
WATCH OUT, WORLD. MOVE OVER, "NIGHTSHADE SENSITIVES". A NEW DIETARY CRAZE IS COMING YOUR WAY.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
What drives me crazy about these people is they take one good thing (animal fat is good for you) and twist it into something they can possibly go on book tour and sell OMGTSHIRTS and shit with.
Another thought:
I found recommendations to:
1. Exercise. (But no long distance running, short sprints instead)
2. Get enough sleep.
3. Don't use an alarm clock.
Now, the 2nd being common sense and the 3rd being flat out stupid...
No long distances? Why? BECAUSE YOU NEED COMPLEX CARBS TO RUN LONG DISTANCES ZOMG. You need complex carbs to do many of the things that humans do every day. Like I said, the moon.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 11, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
You could also go with purines.
Nominally, they can cause gout in large doses, but you could claim SUPER GOUT, because purines are in just about anything you eat.
OOOOOH THIS IS GOOD
The "purine free diet". Because purines fuck up your metabolism and the flow of chi, making you fat and sluggish.
Quote from: Alty on April 11, 2013, 05:16:29 PM
hxxp://paleohacks.com/#axzz2QAh9Z1CG
Here's a good place to start. Same people who made the infographic.
This guy
hxxp://paleodietlifestyle.com/
is where I found most of the information that wasn't a complete moron with a blog. One gem I found went like:
"If you have strong PETA morals, just forgo dairy altogether."
WAT.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 05:08:17 PM
Due to my irritation with the "Maybe it's gluten!" crowd, I have been pondering inventing some food intolerance, but it has to be to something that's incredibly common and incredibly innocuous, that isn't already a thing.
Turns out, sugar, whey, fat, nightshades, corn, etc. have all been done. I don't think anyone's done rice yet, but it's got the lead thing going on and also it's a grain. I considered olive oil, but that's too easy to avoid.
Then it struck me... ALLIUMS. I don't think anyone's done alliums yet. This is a super-plausible one, because they are lilies, and many lilies are poisonous. It goes without saying that they're inflammatory. Further, lots of things are flavored with onions and garlic and chives and scallions and shallots and leeks, and avoiding them altogether will make food bland and suck.
PLUS
a fair number of people actually do have serious allergic reactions to alliums (GOD LIFE MUST SUCK FOR THEM!) just like there are people with severe gluten intolerances and allergies. So, to support my "OMG are you sure it isn't alliums???" campaign, I can point people to existing forums and articles on allium allergy.
I will call this new food problem "Allium Sensitivity".
I plan to use it to troll glutard forums, telling them that I thought my problems were caused by gluten but it turned out I'm Allium Sensitive. I will be the special flower. They will all want to be me.
WATCH OUT, WORLD. MOVE OVER, "NIGHTSHADE SENSITIVES". A NEW DIETARY CRAZE IS COMING YOUR WAY.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
What drives me crazy about these people is they take one good thing (animal fat is good for you) and twist it into something they can possibly go on book tour and sell OMGTSHIRTS and shit with.
NAILED IT
http://thepaleodiet.com/dr-loren-cordain/
Ah, here's The Guy.
Quote from: Alty on April 11, 2013, 07:10:03 PM
http://thepaleodiet.com/dr-loren-cordain/
Ah, here's The Guy.
MAKIN MONEY, MAKIN MONEY, OOOOH YEAH!
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 11, 2013, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Alty on April 11, 2013, 07:10:03 PM
http://thepaleodiet.com/dr-loren-cordain/
Ah, here's The Guy.
MAKIN MONEY, MAKIN MONEY, OOOOH YEAH!
Who needs peer reviewed research with repeatable findings when you can make heaping gobs of CASH instead?
Dr. Loren Cordain is a god damned hero.
So on the Paleo thing... I know a guy that does it, he's a lot less fat and appears more healthy.. but maybe had he just gone on a normal balanced diet it would be the same... I dunno. Weston Price... I sat through a 6 week course taught by their foundation (I was managing the tech stuff). It's very interesting, I think it has some really interesting views and some likely valid points. However, I never got the feeling that it was peer reviewed kind of interesting, more just very thought provoking.
Weston Price was a dentist in the early 20rh century, he travled to a lot of places where native groups were switching over from their traditional diets to modern mass produced diets. He noticed that on the space of a generation, tooth health, tooth crowding, jaw shape etc appeared to be changing. He blamed it on the new foods. Cold pressed oil replacing lard, natural grains being replaced by extruded cereals or processed grains.
I think the stuff is really interesting, but I'm still not convinced its not snake oil. Though the review of how Crisco replaced Lard was very interesting. I did not know Crisco was crystallized cottonseed oil... Ewwww
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on April 11, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
So on the Paleo thing... I know a guy that does it, he's a lot less fat and appears more healthy.. but maybe had he just gone on a normal balanced diet it would be the same... I dunno. Weston Price... I sat through a 6 week course taught by their foundation (I was managing the tech stuff). It's very interesting, I think it has some really interesting views and some likely valid points. However, I never got the feeling that it was peer reviewed kind of interesting, more just very thought provoking.
Weston Price was a dentist in the early 20rh century, he travled to a lot of places where native groups were switching over from their traditional diets to modern mass produced diets. He noticed that on the space of a generation, tooth health, tooth crowding, jaw shape etc appeared to be changing. He blamed it on the new foods. Cold pressed oil replacing lard, natural grains being replaced by extruded cereals or processed grains.
I think the stuff is really interesting, but I'm still not convinced its not snake oil. Though the review of how Crisco replaced Lard was very interesting. I did not know Crisco was crystallized cottonseed oil... Ewwww
I don't think Weston was selling snake oil either. That man HOOFED it.
In defense of the "maybe it's gluten" crowd, my kinda-step-daughter was hospitalized for two months before a family member finally suggested that the doctors check for celiac's.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 11, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
In defense of the "maybe it's gluten" crowd, my kinda-step-daughter was hospitalized for two months before a family member finally suggested that the doctors check for celiac's.
Well yeah, sometimes it is Gluten, and sometimes it's Allium
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 11, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
In defense of the "maybe it's gluten" crowd, my kinda-step-daughter was hospitalized for two months before a family member finally suggested that the doctors check for celiac's.
Some people do, in fact, have a life-threatening reaction to gluten.
Some people have a life-threatening reaction to allium. I have a friend who does.
Neither of those facts are a reason for half the population to become obsessed with cutting gluten and allium out of their diets as a magical cure-all.
I have a life-threatening allergy to honeydew melon. That would be a really stupid reason for everyone else on earth to quit eating cucurbits...
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 11, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
In defense of the "maybe it's gluten" crowd, my kinda-step-daughter was hospitalized for two months before a family member finally suggested that the doctors check for celiac's.
Some people do, in fact, have a life-threatening reaction to gluten.
Some people have a life-threatening reaction to allium. I have a friend who does.
Neither of those facts are a reason for half the population to become obsessed with cutting gluten and allium out of their diets as a magical cure-all.
Agreed, I just have a certain amount of sympathy for people who are trying it out or recommending it to other people with GI issues that are being ignored by or confusing the hell out of their doctors. I am incredibly sick of the "X FOOD CAUSES DEPRESSION" meme, though.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 12, 2013, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on April 11, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
In defense of the "maybe it's gluten" crowd, my kinda-step-daughter was hospitalized for two months before a family member finally suggested that the doctors check for celiac's.
Some people do, in fact, have a life-threatening reaction to gluten.
Some people have a life-threatening reaction to allium. I have a friend who does.
Neither of those facts are a reason for half the population to become obsessed with cutting gluten and allium out of their diets as a magical cure-all.
Agreed, I just have a certain amount of sympathy for people who are trying it out or recommending it to other people with GI issues that are being ignored by or confusing the hell out of their doctors. I am incredibly sick of the "X FOOD CAUSES DEPRESSION" meme, though.
I'm sick of ANYTIME I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANY HEALTH PROBLEM WHATSOEVER, about nine people saying "ARE YOU SURE IT ISN'T GLUTEN???"
IT'S PROBABLY GLUTEN
I posted ton FB that I'm finally accepting that I'm allergic to beer, and a million people were all GLUTEN! even though THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and also it's the hops.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 03:05:50 AM
IT'S PROBABLY GLUTEN
I posted ton FB that I'm finally accepting that I'm allergic to beer, and a million people were all GLUTEN! even though THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and also it's the hops.
Maybe it's the gluten
in the hops.
I can so totally get behind the mass hysteria of the Allium Free Healthy Living FB group! Lol.
The only logical plan of action is to start blaming alliums as the cause of increasingly ridiculous conditions...alliums caused my irritable bowel syndrome....alliums caused my rheumatoid arthritis...alliums caused MY CHILD'S AUTISM.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 01:16:47 AM
I have a life-threatening allergy to honeydew melon. That would be a really stupid reason for everyone else on earth to quit eating cucurbits...
Really?
That's the first time I've heard that one. Given my line of work, I've sort of made a hobby out of "collecting" unusual food allergies. It's also the first time I've heard the term "cucurbits".
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 03:05:50 AM
IT'S PROBABLY GLUTEN
I posted ton FB that I'm finally accepting that I'm allergic to beer, and a million people were all GLUTEN! even though THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and also it's the hops.
you should maybe try some quinoa beer.
Gluten free brewing actually had it's own board on the homebrew board I used to frequent.
(http://i.imgur.com/8N0OFMy.jpg)
I love the Allium allergy idea. It's really beautiful.
Quote from: Balls Wellington on April 12, 2013, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 03:05:50 AM
IT'S PROBABLY GLUTEN
I posted ton FB that I'm finally accepting that I'm allergic to beer, and a million people were all GLUTEN! even though THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and also it's the hops.
you should maybe try some quinoa beer.
:lulz: That sounds pretty tasty!
Quote from: Nast on April 12, 2013, 07:08:55 AM
...alliums caused MY CHILD'S AUTISM.
Someone contact Jenny McCarthy!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8Z6HXIJbdl8/UWgrvPtJLpI/AAAAAAAAAsI/1mtE7CXqTE4/s524/House+Gluten.JPG)
Quote from: Pergamos on April 12, 2013, 12:17:41 PM
Gluten free brewing actually had it's own board on the homebrew board I used to frequent.
That's good. It should be segregated and kept in its ghetto and NEVER allowed to intermingle with anything related to actual beer.
Quote from: Balls Wellington on April 12, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 12, 2013, 12:17:41 PM
Gluten free brewing actually had it's own board on the homebrew board I used to frequent.
That's good. It should be segregated and kept in its ghetto and NEVER allowed to intermingle with anything related to actual beer.
Keep it with Coors Lite and Miller High Life.
Quote from: Balls Wellington on April 12, 2013, 09:32:31 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 01:16:47 AM
I have a life-threatening allergy to honeydew melon. That would be a really stupid reason for everyone else on earth to quit eating cucurbits...
Really?
That's the first time I've heard that one. Given my line of work, I've sort of made a hobby out of "collecting" unusual food allergies. It's also the first time I've heard the term "cucurbits".
Pleased to be of service! :thanks:
Quote from: Balls Wellington on April 12, 2013, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 12, 2013, 03:05:50 AM
IT'S PROBABLY GLUTEN
I posted ton FB that I'm finally accepting that I'm allergic to beer, and a million people were all GLUTEN! even though THAT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE and also it's the hops.
you should maybe try some quinoa beer.
:lulz:
Quote from: Balls Wellington on April 12, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 12, 2013, 12:17:41 PM
Gluten free brewing actually had it's own board on the homebrew board I used to frequent.
That's good. It should be segregated and kept in its ghetto and NEVER allowed to intermingle with anything related to actual beer.
In defense of homebrewing gluten-free. I do know someone who's husband is an avid homebrewer, a damn good one, and she's moderate/severe Celiac, as in, drinking a beer could probably hospitalize her. He managed to make a gluten free beer that does not suck or involve rice, or taste anything like that Redbridge garbage. I was impressed. But, it was also brewed out of necessity, and well, love. When you actually put forth a conscience effort to assist someone who has a legit allergy, you can make great food/drinks. If you're doing it for a fucking fad diet, then you're an idiot.
Why are olives on the paleo diet? They have to be processed before being palatable. Not seeing too many hunter-gatherers going to bother packing them in salt or lye.
I believe because they are considered a fruit and they need the oil for salads and shit.
They also suggest not using an alarm...ever.
JUST WAKE UP WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT.
Ha ha ha,
Quote from: Alty on April 15, 2013, 05:17:20 AM
I believe because they are considered a fruit and they need the oil for salads and shit.
They also suggest not using an alarm...ever.
JUST WAKE UP WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE IT.
Ha ha ha,
So, I take it these hippies don't have jobs?
The vast majority of people I see extolling the paleo diet tend to be writers of some kind or another (bloggers) who normally work from home.
Still, that's not an excuse. I mean, I could get away with not setting an alarm. I do, though, because I want my day to be more productive than "I slept in until 11am, then ate raw meat and seeds while watching Youtube videos of kittens".
:lol:
Perhaps they intend to start a cultural revolution. Which they'll need to do seeing as there's just no feasible way to feed 7 billion people on 30% meat, 30% fat, and 30% vegetables. Its just not ever going to happn.
Wait a second ...that's why we HAVE overpopulation guise! We just have to switch the entire worlds infrastructure to support this and let all the peasants starve to death from, uh, the lack of grains that have kept then alive for thousands of years.
Perhaps they could agitate for a cultural revolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution) which will result, no doubt, in a great leap forward (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward) for all of mankind. Population problem solved.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 12, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Quote from: Balls Wellington on April 12, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on April 12, 2013, 12:17:41 PM
Gluten free brewing actually had it's own board on the homebrew board I used to frequent.
That's good. It should be segregated and kept in its ghetto and NEVER allowed to intermingle with anything related to actual beer.
Keep it with Coors Lite and Miller High Life.
:)
Quote from: Alty on April 15, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
:lol:
Perhaps they intend to start a cultural revolution. Which they'll need to do seeing as there's just no feasible way to feed 7 billion people on 30% meat, 30% fat, and 30% vegetables. Its just not ever going to happn.
Wait a second ...that's why we HAVE overpopulation guise! We just have to switch the entire worlds infrastructure to support this and let all the peasants starve to death from, uh, the lack of grains that have kept then alive for thousands of years.
STEALING!
Quote from: Alty on April 15, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
:lol:
Perhaps they intend to start a cultural revolution. Which they'll need to do seeing as there's just no feasible way to feed 7 billion people on 30% meat, 30% fat, and 30% vegetables. Its just not ever going to happn.
Wait a second ...that's why we HAVE overpopulation guise! We just have to switch the entire worlds infrastructure to support this and let all the peasants starve to death from, uh, the lack of grains that have kept then alive for thousands of years.
Wait. What's the other 10%?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2013, 01:57:46 AM
Quote from: Alty on April 15, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
:lol:
Perhaps they intend to start a cultural revolution. Which they'll need to do seeing as there's just no feasible way to feed 7 billion people on 30% meat, 30% fat, and 30% vegetables. Its just not ever going to happn.
Wait a second ...that's why we HAVE overpopulation guise! We just have to switch the entire worlds infrastructure to support this and let all the peasants starve to death from, uh, the lack of grains that have kept then alive for thousands of years.
Wait. What's the other 10%?
Quantumz
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 18, 2013, 02:24:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2013, 01:57:46 AM
Quote from: Alty on April 15, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
:lol:
Perhaps they intend to start a cultural revolution. Which they'll need to do seeing as there's just no feasible way to feed 7 billion people on 30% meat, 30% fat, and 30% vegetables. Its just not ever going to happn.
Wait a second ...that's why we HAVE overpopulation guise! We just have to switch the entire worlds infrastructure to support this and let all the peasants starve to death from, uh, the lack of grains that have kept then alive for thousands of years.
Wait. What's the other 10%?
Quantumz
:spittake:
What the Coyote said.
I was going to say desperation.
Quote from: Don Coyote on June 18, 2013, 02:24:12 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 18, 2013, 01:57:46 AM
Quote from: Alty on April 15, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
:lol:
Perhaps they intend to start a cultural revolution. Which they'll need to do seeing as there's just no feasible way to feed 7 billion people on 30% meat, 30% fat, and 30% vegetables. Its just not ever going to happn.
Wait a second ...that's why we HAVE overpopulation guise! We just have to switch the entire worlds infrastructure to support this and let all the peasants starve to death from, uh, the lack of grains that have kept then alive for thousands of years.
Wait. What's the other 10%?
Quantumz
:lulz: