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This whole thread smacks of gender.
Quote from: Cainad on May 22, 2013, 02:35:34 AM
This whole thread smacks of gender.
Stick a fork in it, you patriarchal bastard. :argh!:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 03:08:52 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 22, 2013, 02:35:34 AM
This whole thread smacks of gender.
Stick a fork in it, you patriarchal bastard. :argh!:
What's more feminist, a Ciswomyn's group or a Cis-hating group that spells it "women"? :lol:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 03:08:52 AM
Quote from: Cainad on May 22, 2013, 02:35:34 AM
This whole thread smacks of gender.
Stick a fork in it, you patriarchal bastard. :argh!:
you spilled privilege on my intersectionality, you BASTARD! :crankey:
You people are WHITE.
YOUR MAMA WEARS DONNA KARAN AND YOUR DADDY WORKS ON WALL STREET
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 22, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
You people are WHITE.
Only until we get embarrassed, sick, or oxygen deprived.
Quote from: stelz on May 22, 2013, 05:56:32 PM
YOUR MAMA WEARS DONNA KARAN AND YOUR DADDY WORKS ON WALL STREET
SHUT UP, YOU WELFARE MOOCHING SOCIALIST!
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 22, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
You people are WHITE.
That's the spirit, but you have to elaborate with why its wrong to be white.
Stop oppressing my whiteness with your dark skinned minority privilege :argh!:
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 22, 2013, 07:12:54 PM
Stop oppressing my whiteness with your dark skinned minority privilege :argh!:
As I expected, that's exactly what a CIS would say.
I am now shedding Angry Black Woman CIS Man Tears. Jerks. :cry:
My cishet Viking Princess heart OF manliness is broken.
I was going to say that we should always diversify the discussion, Cis is but one discussion, but then I realised harping on about it for a gross of pages is exactly what new people should do to fit in.
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
I was going to say that we should always diversify the discussion, Cis is but one discussion, but then I realised harping on about it for a gross of pages is exactly what new people should do to fit in.
I, for one, am glad to hear your high opinion of me and the rest of the posters on this board.
It is a morale boost that cannot be properly explained. My pants, however, are around my ankles while I salute you.
Because, you know, these last few days I've gotten used to having people I consider "friends" tell me - in no uncertain terms - what a useless and horrid lop of shit I am. The fact that in this case the information is being directed at not only me but the people who HAVEN'T told me what a lop of shit I am only serves to increase the morale-building power of the statement.
But then it occurred to me that I don't have time for that shit.
If it's any consolation, it's the fact that you're a horrid lop of shit that makes me like you.
Of course most people would chose ascending bowel cancer over being friends with me, given the choice :oops:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
I was going to say that we should always diversify the discussion, Cis is but one discussion, but then I realised harping on about it for a gross of pages is exactly what new people should do to fit in.
I, for one, am glad to hear your high opinion of me and the rest of the posters on this board.
It is a morale boost that cannot be properly explained. My pants, however, are around my ankles while I salute you.
I have an incredibly high opinion of this forum, and you. But that doesn't mean I can't poke fun at
our* shared eccentricities?
We can either be gloomy about the fact that there are topics we as a community simply aren't great at discussing with each other, or we can accept it and see the horrifyingly funny side.
*The CIS and athiesm threads are my weakness, the Magik etc are others.
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 08:28:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
I was going to say that we should always diversify the discussion, Cis is but one discussion, but then I realised harping on about it for a gross of pages is exactly what new people should do to fit in.
I, for one, am glad to hear your high opinion of me and the rest of the posters on this board.
It is a morale boost that cannot be properly explained. My pants, however, are around my ankles while I salute you.
I have an incredibly high opinion of this forum, and you. But that doesn't mean I can't poke fun at our* shared eccentricities?
We can either be gloomy about the fact that there are topics we as a community simply aren't great at discussing with each other, or we can accept it and see the horrifyingly funny side.
*The CIS and athiesm threads are my weakness, the Magik etc are others.
Ah. The last one (the top of this nest of quotes) seemed to go from laughing WITH us to laughing AT us.
Sorry, I'm a little touchy right this minute, on account of Freeky blindsiding me.
If you REALLY run out of ideas, go with meta-humor, that always kills 'em.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 08:28:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
I was going to say that we should always diversify the discussion, Cis is but one discussion, but then I realised harping on about it for a gross of pages is exactly what new people should do to fit in.
I, for one, am glad to hear your high opinion of me and the rest of the posters on this board.
It is a morale boost that cannot be properly explained. My pants, however, are around my ankles while I salute you.
I have an incredibly high opinion of this forum, and you. But that doesn't mean I can't poke fun at our* shared eccentricities?
We can either be gloomy about the fact that there are topics we as a community simply aren't great at discussing with each other, or we can accept it and see the horrifyingly funny side.
*The CIS and athiesm threads are my weakness, the Magik etc are others.
Ah. The last one (the top of this nest of quotes) seemed to go from laughing WITH us to laughing AT us.
Sorry, I'm a little touchy right this minute, on account of Freeky blindsiding me.
Well I am a horrible snob, but I'm normally more blatant about it then that.
I was remarking on the fact that that's the one that struck a cord with people, I'd say there is a reason for that, I know it's a topic I'm personally ill equipped for.
Yeah, well, you didn't deserve that. Sorry.
Quote from: Alty on May 22, 2013, 08:36:13 PM
If you REALLY run out of ideas, go with meta-humor, that always kills 'em.
NO DON'T TAKE THOSE, it's the only thing I have going for me. If I lose that all I'll have to post about is comic books and sql errors.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Yeah, well, you didn't deserve that. Sorry.
No worries.
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 12:11:30 AM
Welcome to the Principia Discordia Forums.
If you are having trouble coming up with gripping ideas for threads, consider posting about the following topics:
Libertarianism: This seasons anarchism?
Reasons why I am an atheist. Included a picture of Richard Dawkins for bonus points.
Fashioning powerful sigils, (the secret to potent magic is numerology).
My gun and me, or the pro's and cons of legislation.
Why being a CIS white male in today's society is wrong.
So, posting alien probe p0rn is right out?
Quote from: Faust on May 22, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
I was going to say that we should always diversify the discussion, Cis is but one discussion, but then I realised harping on about it for a gross of pages is exactly what new people should do to fit in.
No worries, then. I can not only deliver a gross of pages but extra added grossness per page.
That's value for your money.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
My pants, however, are around my ankles while I salute you.
Just like a cis-person. Always proudly waving around their genitals :argh!:
I don't even know the lingo for whatever I am. Y'all are oppressing me with your label privilegedness. CISHETEMOMOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 26, 2013, 04:05:04 AM
I don't even know the lingo for whatever I am. Y'all are oppressing me with your label privilegedness. CISHETEMOMOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
:lulz:
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 26, 2013, 04:05:04 AM
I don't even know the lingo for whatever I am. Y'all are oppressing me with your label privilegedness. CISHETEMOMOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
You're just jealous you haven't got a GLBT sammich.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Z6vCTcPSnlE/TOHY0ccbBGI/AAAAAAAAErA/vsnNReYmN-U/s1600/351+GBLT+Sandwich+crop_corel.jpg)
Iiiiiiiiiiiieeee don't even know what to make of that image. What is it supposed to be representative of?
I think it's just a BLT pun.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 22, 2013, 07:18:04 PM
I am now shedding Angry Black Woman CIS Man Tears. Jerks. :cry:
:hustle:
http://iliveinashed.tumblr.com/post/51396335576/privilege-theory-and-a-little-re-frame-of-the-shit-that
a blog I wrote that is maybe relevant
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 05:30:46 PM
http://iliveinashed.tumblr.com/post/51396335576/privilege-theory-and-a-little-re-frame-of-the-shit-that
a blog I wrote that is maybe relevant
I liked it, I think that was some useful advice.
It kind of reminded me, on a semi-related topic, I had a slightly awkward conversation I had with a white friend yesterday morning.
It went like this.
White friend:
Quotehttp://theblackportlanders.com/
It is innocuous except I think it will mostly be used by white people for proving to each other that they live in a diverse city?
Me:
QuoteThey do that, and it's incredibly irritating when people go on about how "white" Portland is
I mean, it's nice to see a project that recognizes that black people exist here as something other than a statistical fraction.
Who cares what white people do with it? It's not about them.
White friend:
Quotei suppose
The thing that was odd about the conversation was that I got the sense that he was sending me the link because he found it amusing and ironic (I kind of loved it, in a completely non-ironic way) and then his mind went promptly to white people's response. It's not about white people. It's not for white people's benefit. It is about one of Portland's "invisible" (because "we don't see race", right?) populations and celebrating the fact that we DO live in this city alongside our white friends and neighbors.
Portlandia sort of shoved the invisibility of Portland's black and brown people to the forefront, because despite being filmed primarily in Portland neighborhoods that are historically black (and are still about 50/50, despite gentrification), the first couple of seasons didn't reflect the population of the neighborhoods at all. The show could have been renamed "White Portlandia". I don't think there was a single black face in the first season, even as a passer-by in the background.
So this photo project really resonates with me, and it seems like it resonates with a lot of Portland's hipsters of color. Maybe now people will stop saying "Portland is just so white" all the damn time.
I kind of doubt it though.
This photo project also inspired me to do one of my own, called "White Men". The reason I want to do this is because the white male is typically the presumed default, the eye behind the lens. You see photoessays of black women, indian women, hispanics, etc. all with an eye for their difference and supposed beauty (due to being different, outside the norm). I want to do a photoessay of white men through the lens of a non-white non-male, capturing their "differentness". I don't know if I can pull it off, but I'm going to try.
If anybody can pull that off, it's you.
Thanks! Time to bust out my old 35mm.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 26, 2013, 04:05:04 AM
I don't even know the lingo for whatever I am. Y'all are oppressing me with your label privilegedness. CISHETEMOMOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
Fortunately for you there are overly specific flow charts and radial plots to help you find you exactly who you are.
Quote from: Faust on May 26, 2013, 08:45:42 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on May 26, 2013, 04:05:04 AM
I don't even know the lingo for whatever I am. Y'all are oppressing me with your label privilegedness. CISHETEMOMOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
Fortunately for you there are overly specific flow charts and radial plots to help you find you exactly who you are.
And if that doesn't work, they're making up new shit daily!
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 05:46:54 PM
This photo project also inspired me to do one of my own, called "White Men". The reason I want to do this is because the white male is typically the presumed default, the eye behind the lens. You see photoessays of black women, indian women, hispanics, etc. all with an eye for their difference and supposed beauty (due to being different, outside the norm). I want to do a photoessay of white men through the lens of a non-white non-male, capturing their "differentness". I don't know if I can pull it off, but I'm going to try.
YES
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 05:30:46 PM
http://iliveinashed.tumblr.com/post/51396335576/privilege-theory-and-a-little-re-frame-of-the-shit-that
a blog I wrote that is maybe relevant
Imma forward this to one of my friends.
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 05:30:46 PM
http://iliveinashed.tumblr.com/post/51396335576/privilege-theory-and-a-little-re-frame-of-the-shit-that
a blog I wrote that is maybe relevant
At first I thought "Aw hell, pixie's getting seriousness in our goofy thread!"
Then I was like, "Oh hey, pix gets what it's like to be genderqueer, whether pix is or not."
SQUEE! :banana:
...I really
like getting called "sir" by clerks, although then they act all afraid I'm gonna complain or something...Not that I mean to scare them, or anything.
One guy who owned his own business did say (quietly) to his buddy standing next to him: "Hey, is that a woman or a man? Whatever, man..."
And when my ears aren't congested I have
really good hearing :lol:
I am worried I'm going to get yelled at in a public restroom.
...I go by genitalia, but I sort of feel like I'm lying when I use either the mens' or the ladies'.
Online I will answer to either male or female pronouns and wonder what it tells me about the person who is addressing me...
This brings up the question...am I
situationally male or female???
I think that would be genderfluid, and I'm not sure I'm that changeable.
(Genderfluid...is that something you can use to get your rust-locked male and female connectors loose? kind of like WD-40?)
I used to get bugged by stupid rednecks: "Is that a man or a woman? hurhurhurrr..."
Funny, since I accepted I was metaphorically "intersexed between the ears" nobody fucks with me.
You just have to carry yourself like you can and will fuck back, which I absolutely can and will do now. :evil:
...Body language is really important, I think, to not getting fucked with.
My ex-wife is actually way more likely to go explodey than myself. I'm pretty sure she's an Aspie, and one thing (of many) she fails to do is make eye contact.
That's typical for Asperger's people.
The thing is, it signals to most people she'll back down, is submissive, therefore a good target.
Except it's a false signal.
She sends out FALSE body-language signals all the time, like getting physically tense when she's really interested in something.
I was constantly freaking out with her b/c I thought she was pissed-off...and no, she was just interested in something or other.
I have PTSD, and she had a way of triggering me all the freaking time.
I also felt like I was constantly trying to convey to her who I was and what I was about for the last ten years...and failed to do so.
...Leaving me to believe none of us ever really understand one another.
:sad: It took me ten years to figure out that just because she's a moral and brilliant person, with gender issues of her own, we're still not ANY good for each other. Divorce was final in April.
Pix said this:
Quote"hey, please don't discredit this experience I have on a regular basis just because you have never seen or experienced it, would be nice if you could listen and take my word for it."
I'm white, and I honestly think that is part of what kept me from being charged with something some "buddies" of mine did.
Racism is real, sexism is real, gender roles ARE enforced (sometimes violently).
http://jezebel.com/5840016/woman-sentenced-to-prison-for-beating-transgender-woman-in-mcdonalds
Ok, enough.
[/serious shit]
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/adbd6f662017dd3da4501b960562b431/tumblr_mn1lhtH9UA1s6vproo1_500.jpg)
Dunno if this thought is polite or not, but I thought "I would totally date this guy."
...Why? Brainy. Sad, kind eyes. Lots of hair to run my hands through-I bet when he undoes it it's a huge cloud of hair.
Is Portland not terribly diverse? THAT sucks.
Houston has a magnificently diverse population and I LOVE it.
...Texas cities can be cool, but drive 5 miles outside the cities and you can appropriately cue up "dueling banjos."
Please don't complain about using this thread for Serious discussion.
This can be a jovial thread as well.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Jupiter_by_Cassini-Huygens.jpg/260px-Jupiter_by_Cassini-Huygens.jpg)
Quote from: Faust on May 26, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
Please don't complain about using this thread for Serious discussion.
This can be a jovial thread as well.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Jupiter_by_Cassini-Huygens.jpg/260px-Jupiter_by_Cassini-Huygens.jpg)
I just didn't planet to be a serious post, at first.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 26, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/adbd6f662017dd3da4501b960562b431/tumblr_mn1lhtH9UA1s6vproo1_500.jpg)
Dunno if this thought is polite or not, but I thought "I would totally date this guy."
...Why? Brainy. Sad, kind eyes. Lots of hair to run my hands through-I bet when he undoes it it's a huge cloud of hair.
Is Portland not terribly diverse? THAT sucks.
Houston has a magnificently diverse population and I LOVE it.
...Texas cities can be cool, but drive 5 miles outside the cities and you can appropriately cue up "dueling banjos."
Diversity is in the eye of the beholder.
Portland is about 80% white. Most of the White people in Portland are not from Portland. They come from all over the country, and there's also a large Ukrainian population. So that's one kind of diversity.
There are neighborhoods, like mine, that are roughly 50% Black. There are others that are roughly 50% Hispanic, and some that are heavily Asian. This whole neighborhood was German before it was Black.
Albina used to be very much mostly black, but it got gentrified, and now on any given night you can go into any bar on Mississippi and listen to white hipsters complain about the lack of diversity while they look right through the Black and Hispanic patrons.
100% of the people I have heard complaining about the lack of diversity here have been White. Maybe they thought they were going to get brownie points or something.
I have heard from a reputable source, though have not verified, that more than half of the children in Portland are nonwhite.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 26, 2013, 10:14:20 PM
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 05:30:46 PM
http://iliveinashed.tumblr.com/post/51396335576/privilege-theory-and-a-little-re-frame-of-the-shit-that
a blog I wrote that is maybe relevant
At first I thought "Aw hell, pixie's getting seriousness in our goofy thread!"
Then I was like, "Oh hey, pix gets what it's like to be genderqueer, whether pix is or not."
SQUEE! :banana:
...I really like getting called "sir" by clerks, although then they act all afraid I'm gonna complain or something...Not that I mean to scare them, or anything.
One guy who owned his own business did say (quietly) to his buddy standing next to him: "Hey, is that a woman or a man? Whatever, man..."
And when my ears aren't congested I have really good hearing :lol:
I am worried I'm going to get yelled at in a public restroom.
...I go by genitalia, but I sort of feel like I'm lying when I use either the mens' or the ladies'.
Online I will answer to either male or female pronouns and wonder what it tells me about the person who is addressing me...
This brings up the question...am I situationally male or female???
I think that would be genderfluid, and I'm not sure I'm that changeable.
(Genderfluid...is that something you can use to get your rust-locked male and female connectors loose? kind of like WD-40?)
I used to get bugged by stupid rednecks: "Is that a man or a woman? hurhurhurrr..."
Funny, since I accepted I was metaphorically "intersexed between the ears" nobody fucks with me.
You just have to carry yourself like you can and will fuck back, which I absolutely can and will do now. :evil:
...Body language is really important, I think, to not getting fucked with.
My ex-wife is actually way more likely to go explodey than myself. I'm pretty sure she's an Aspie, and one thing (of many) she fails to do is make eye contact.
That's typical for Asperger's people.
The thing is, it signals to most people she'll back down, is submissive, therefore a good target.
Except it's a false signal.
She sends out FALSE body-language signals all the time, like getting physically tense when she's really interested in something.
I was constantly freaking out with her b/c I thought she was pissed-off...and no, she was just interested in something or other.
I have PTSD, and she had a way of triggering me all the freaking time.
I also felt like I was constantly trying to convey to her who I was and what I was about for the last ten years...and failed to do so.
...Leaving me to believe none of us ever really understand one another.
:sad: It took me ten years to figure out that just because she's a moral and brilliant person, with gender issues of her own, we're still not ANY good for each other. Divorce was final in April.
Pix said this:
Quote"hey, please don't discredit this experience I have on a regular basis just because you have never seen or experienced it, would be nice if you could listen and take my word for it."
I'm white, and I honestly think that is part of what kept me from being charged with something some "buddies" of mine did.
Racism is real, sexism is real, gender roles ARE enforced (sometimes violently).
http://jezebel.com/5840016/woman-sentenced-to-prison-for-beating-transgender-woman-in-mcdonalds
Ok, enough.
[/serious shit]
I have GQ and trans friends. I don't get it on a personal or experiential level (FAAB and cool with it), but I listen, god-damnnit. it was one example of Some of the Things I have learned, like, not touching Nigel's hair as a POC unless you be gettin down and frisky with someone consensual and sensual likes. Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
It can be really hard for people who have become really attached to their identity as oppressed to comprehend that you can be oppressed in one way and privileged in another.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 11:19:23 PM
It can be really hard for people who have become really attached to their identity as oppressed to comprehend that you can be oppressed in one way and privileged in another.
Yup. I get being white, being cisgendered, being mostly straight, and able in body, and being a smart motherfucker.
I got screwed on sanity, class, gender and not having that bit of paper that someone has verified my being a smart motherfucker...
The Irish thing used to be shitty back when but it's not much of a problem now.
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
I quit attending this one meetup group, based around TED talks.
...I felt really alien there, because those people all come from a background of, like, actually having money.
Not having their life put in danger from lack of medical access, actually getting results when they call the cops about getting robbed, not having to drive a car that's always falling apart, etc.
Then they started meeting at a place that had free valet parking.
...I immediately thought of some valet smacking my car into a wall because he's not used to proper hoopty driving technique...and I knew I'd feel REALLY alien in such a place if not there to work.
So I dropped out.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 27, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
I quit attending this one meetup group, based around TED talks.
...I felt really alien there, because those people all come from a background of, like, actually having money.
Not having their life put in danger from lack of medical access, actually getting results when they call the cops about getting robbed, not having to drive a car that's always falling apart, etc.
Then they started meeting at a place that had free valet parking.
...I immediately thought of some valet smacking my car into a wall because he's not used to proper hoopty driving technique...and I knew I'd feel REALLY alien in such a place if not there to work.
So I dropped out.
fuck, I wouldn't even be able to go to the meets for my activist group if it wasn't for having some awesome friends drive me there and back.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 27, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
I quit attending this one meetup group, based around TED talks.
...I felt really alien there, because those people all come from a background of, like, actually having money.
Not having their life put in danger from lack of medical access, actually getting results when they call the cops about getting robbed, not having to drive a car that's always falling apart, etc.
Then they started meeting at a place that had free valet parking.
...I immediately thought of some valet smacking my car into a wall because he's not used to proper hoopty driving technique...and I knew I'd feel REALLY alien in such a place if not there to work.
So I dropped out.
Yeah, a friend of mine went to a TEDx conference in Seattle and said it was really weird being surrounded by all these rich people. My psychology professor made a crack about it as well.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 27, 2013, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 27, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
I quit attending this one meetup group, based around TED talks.
...I felt really alien there, because those people all come from a background of, like, actually having money.
Not having their life put in danger from lack of medical access, actually getting results when they call the cops about getting robbed, not having to drive a car that's always falling apart, etc.
Then they started meeting at a place that had free valet parking.
...I immediately thought of some valet smacking my car into a wall because he's not used to proper hoopty driving technique...and I knew I'd feel REALLY alien in such a place if not there to work.
So I dropped out.
Yeah, a friend of mine went to a TEDx conference in Seattle and said it was really weird being surrounded by all these rich people. My psychology professor made a crack about it as well.
lady from my feminist group, whose parents live in a half-a million quid 5 bedroom house is not sure if she is middle class. IF YOU HAVE TO ASK IF YOU AREN'T WORKING CLASS, HON, THEN YOU PROBABLY AREN'T.
Sometimes, I want to slap her.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 26, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
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Dunno if this thought is polite or not, but I thought "I would totally date this guy."
...Why? Brainy. Sad, kind eyes. Lots of hair to run my hands through-I bet when he undoes it it's a huge cloud of hair.
Is Portland not terribly diverse? THAT sucks.
Houston has a magnificently diverse population and I LOVE it.
...Texas cities can be cool, but drive 5 miles outside the cities and you can appropriately cue up "dueling banjos."
Diversity is in the eye of the beholder.
Portland is about 80% white. Most of the White people in Portland are not from Portland. They come from all over the country, and there's also a large Ukrainian population. So that's one kind of diversity.
There are neighborhoods, like mine, that are roughly 50% Black. There are others that are roughly 50% Hispanic, and some that are heavily Asian. This whole neighborhood was German before it was Black.
Albina used to be very much mostly black, but it got gentrified, and now on any given night you can go into any bar on Mississippi and listen to white hipsters complain about the lack of diversity while they look right through the Black and Hispanic patrons.
100% of the people I have heard complaining about the lack of diversity here have been White. Maybe they thought they were going to get brownie points or something.
I thought my corner of Southeast was pretty diverse. Maybe not all that racially diverse (though more so than many parts of PDX) but very much ethnically diverse. And also in terms of socioeconomic class. I mean, you can just about chuck a stone from Woodstock/Eastmoreland to Foster-Powell and Felony Flats (never got the name myself, seems like a pretty nice 'hood to me).
Quote from: Pixie on May 27, 2013, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 27, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
I quit attending this one meetup group, based around TED talks.
...I felt really alien there, because those people all come from a background of, like, actually having money.
Not having their life put in danger from lack of medical access, actually getting results when they call the cops about getting robbed, not having to drive a car that's always falling apart, etc.
Then they started meeting at a place that had free valet parking.
...I immediately thought of some valet smacking my car into a wall because he's not used to proper hoopty driving technique...and I knew I'd feel REALLY alien in such a place if not there to work.
So I dropped out.
fuck, I wouldn't even be able to go to the meets for my activist group if it wasn't for having some awesome friends drive me there and back.
I'd be happy to throw you on top of all the dumpster-dived shiat in my car. :roll:
In Houston no transportation very often=no job-my one ethically-carless friend had endless problems.
You can't get anywhere without a car here, not reliably...I had a friend who lost his job because the bus driver, on the first run of the morning, often parked at dunkin' donuts for 20 minutes, to have a nice breakfast. :x
My car has gotten to the "carry the toolbox" stage of devolution, but as long as I have at least $1000 to get another hoopty, all is cool. Except the car, the a/c croaked some time ago.
Felony Flats ain't what it used to be. My dad lives right in the middle of it, and B lives out there too. There was a time when it was pretty icky, but like much of the rest of Portland, that time was heavily tied to low housing values.
Quote from: Pixie on May 27, 2013, 12:28:14 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 27, 2013, 12:22:38 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 27, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
Quote from: Pixie on May 26, 2013, 11:13:05 PM
Now if I could get all these white middle class feminists to see some sense with the class thing i'll be onto a winner.
I quit attending this one meetup group, based around TED talks.
...I felt really alien there, because those people all come from a background of, like, actually having money.
Not having their life put in danger from lack of medical access, actually getting results when they call the cops about getting robbed, not having to drive a car that's always falling apart, etc.
Then they started meeting at a place that had free valet parking.
...I immediately thought of some valet smacking my car into a wall because he's not used to proper hoopty driving technique...and I knew I'd feel REALLY alien in such a place if not there to work.
So I dropped out.
Yeah, a friend of mine went to a TEDx conference in Seattle and said it was really weird being surrounded by all these rich people. My psychology professor made a crack about it as well.
lady from my feminist group, whose parents live in a half-a million quid 5 bedroom house is not sure if she is middle class. IF YOU HAVE TO ASK IF YOU AREN'T WORKING CLASS, HON, THEN YOU PROBABLY AREN'T.
Sometimes, I want to slap her.
A lady I know went to see
Beasts of the Southern Wild at an art theater, and she said people were walking out because they were "repelled". :x :x :x
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 26, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
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Dunno if this thought is polite or not, but I thought "I would totally date this guy."
...Why? Brainy. Sad, kind eyes. Lots of hair to run my hands through-I bet when he undoes it it's a huge cloud of hair.
Is Portland not terribly diverse? THAT sucks.
Houston has a magnificently diverse population and I LOVE it.
...Texas cities can be cool, but drive 5 miles outside the cities and you can appropriately cue up "dueling banjos."
Diversity is in the eye of the beholder.
Portland is about 80% white. Most of the White people in Portland are not from Portland. They come from all over the country, and there's also a large Ukrainian population. So that's one kind of diversity.
There are neighborhoods, like mine, that are roughly 50% Black. There are others that are roughly 50% Hispanic, and some that are heavily Asian. This whole neighborhood was German before it was Black.
Albina used to be very much mostly black, but it got gentrified, and now on any given night you can go into any bar on Mississippi and listen to white hipsters complain about the lack of diversity while they look right through the Black and Hispanic patrons.
100% of the people I have heard complaining about the lack of diversity here have been White. Maybe they thought they were going to get brownie points or something.
A friend of mine has been repeating for a year or two about how he hates Portland and wants to move to Oakland because white guys will go out of their way to fuck with him here. As in, cross the street, purposefully walk into him, and spew racial epithets to start a fight—apparently because he's a huge black dude in a hoodie that just wants to mind his own goddamn business. He just wants to be ignored in public, he's a quiet, sensitive guy.
He used to live in NW, which is not only predominantly white, but full of rich douches, as I'm sure you're well aware. But even then, he shouldn't have to put up with that shit. I've never witnessed any of this, and being an arrogant white guy, obviously never had to deal with it either. I've told him he needs to come chill in NE where people wouldn't dare pull that racist shit, but he had to move to Tigard to take care of his mom so now he's stuck even deeper in an even more ghastly white neighborhood only they're fatter there too.
I just can't write that off as no big deal.
Quote from: Net on May 28, 2013, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 26, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
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Dunno if this thought is polite or not, but I thought "I would totally date this guy."
...Why? Brainy. Sad, kind eyes. Lots of hair to run my hands through-I bet when he undoes it it's a huge cloud of hair.
Is Portland not terribly diverse? THAT sucks.
Houston has a magnificently diverse population and I LOVE it.
...Texas cities can be cool, but drive 5 miles outside the cities and you can appropriately cue up "dueling banjos."
Diversity is in the eye of the beholder.
Portland is about 80% white. Most of the White people in Portland are not from Portland. They come from all over the country, and there's also a large Ukrainian population. So that's one kind of diversity.
There are neighborhoods, like mine, that are roughly 50% Black. There are others that are roughly 50% Hispanic, and some that are heavily Asian. This whole neighborhood was German before it was Black.
Albina used to be very much mostly black, but it got gentrified, and now on any given night you can go into any bar on Mississippi and listen to white hipsters complain about the lack of diversity while they look right through the Black and Hispanic patrons.
100% of the people I have heard complaining about the lack of diversity here have been White. Maybe they thought they were going to get brownie points or something.
A friend of mine has been repeating for a year or two about how he hates Portland and wants to move to Oakland because white guys will go out of their way to fuck with him here. As in, cross the street, purposefully walk into him, and spew racial epithets to start a fight—apparently because he's a huge black dude in a hoodie that just wants to mind his own goddamn business. He just wants to be ignored in public, he's a quiet, sensitive guy.
He used to live in NW, which is not only predominantly white, but full of rich douches, as I'm sure you're well aware. But even then, he shouldn't have to put up with that shit. I've never witnessed any of this, and being an arrogant white guy, obviously never had to deal with it either. I've told him he needs to come chill in NE where people wouldn't dare pull that racist shit, but he had to move to Tigard to take care of his mom so now he's stuck even deeper in an even more ghastly white neighborhood only they're fatter there too.
I just can't write that off as no big deal.
Neither can I. He should NOT have to put up with that shit.
I think he ought to get a semi-decent audio-video recording device if he doesn't have such, and upload the douchiness.
Quote from: Net on May 28, 2013, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 26, 2013, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on May 26, 2013, 10:23:33 PM
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Dunno if this thought is polite or not, but I thought "I would totally date this guy."
...Why? Brainy. Sad, kind eyes. Lots of hair to run my hands through-I bet when he undoes it it's a huge cloud of hair.
Is Portland not terribly diverse? THAT sucks.
Houston has a magnificently diverse population and I LOVE it.
...Texas cities can be cool, but drive 5 miles outside the cities and you can appropriately cue up "dueling banjos."
Diversity is in the eye of the beholder.
Portland is about 80% white. Most of the White people in Portland are not from Portland. They come from all over the country, and there's also a large Ukrainian population. So that's one kind of diversity.
There are neighborhoods, like mine, that are roughly 50% Black. There are others that are roughly 50% Hispanic, and some that are heavily Asian. This whole neighborhood was German before it was Black.
Albina used to be very much mostly black, but it got gentrified, and now on any given night you can go into any bar on Mississippi and listen to white hipsters complain about the lack of diversity while they look right through the Black and Hispanic patrons.
100% of the people I have heard complaining about the lack of diversity here have been White. Maybe they thought they were going to get brownie points or something.
A friend of mine has been repeating for a year or two about how he hates Portland and wants to move to Oakland because white guys will go out of their way to fuck with him here. As in, cross the street, purposefully walk into him, and spew racial epithets to start a fight—apparently because he's a huge black dude in a hoodie that just wants to mind his own goddamn business. He just wants to be ignored in public, he's a quiet, sensitive guy.
He used to live in NW, which is not only predominantly white, but full of rich douches, as I'm sure you're well aware. But even then, he shouldn't have to put up with that shit. I've never witnessed any of this, and being an arrogant white guy, obviously never had to deal with it either. I've told him he needs to come chill in NE where people wouldn't dare pull that racist shit, but he had to move to Tigard to take care of his mom so now he's stuck even deeper in an even more ghastly white neighborhood only they're fatter there too.
I just can't write that off as no big deal.
That really sucks ass. I don't doubt that he has had some shitty experiences, especially living on the "wrong" side of the river.
Portland has some weird entrenched racism. I can't remember, but I think I might have posted a link that talks about that?