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Title: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Bruno on June 10, 2013, 08:59:21 PM
It all started when a county Comissioner posted a picture to his Facebook page with the caption "How to wink at a Muslim" showing a picture of a guy looking down the barrel of a gun.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/01/1206220/-HOW-TO-WINK-AT-A-MUSLIM

A few weeks later, the American Muslim Advisory Council invites some guys from the Federal government out to explain the First Amendment, and what constitutes protected and unprotected speech. The local racist newspaper got wind of this, and posted a page one article encouraging people to come out and let their voices be heard.


Well, they did. They packed the room, leaving a sizeable crowd still standing outside. They heckled the guy for about two hours, screaming about how the feds were trampling all over their free speech, or whatever. I still keep hearing people saying that he told people they could go to jail for making "disparaging remarks" about Islam. So far, all I have been able to find, is that he said that threats are not protected speech. As far as I can tell, it's still legal to say Mohammed, Jesus, Ganesha, and Buddah all suck donkey dicks, and Presbyterians all eat babies.

Here's an article with video of the angry mob heckling the speaker:

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130605/NEWS21/306050155/Muslim-group-s-TN-forum-feds-disrupted-by-heckling

Apparently, Victoria Jackson was there. She lives somewhere around here now.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on June 10, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Apparently she's a crazyface now...
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 09:08:19 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on June 10, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Apparently she's a crazyface now...

She is COMPLETELY bonkers, in a way that Ann Coulter could never manage.

And I don't expect anything else from Tennessee.  Not a damn thing.  They have lived down to my low expectations, once again.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 09:51:33 PM
Love the guy in the background "did you come here to blow us up?" And all the other crazy shit. Very classy.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 10, 2013, 09:55:54 PM
That particular vintage of SNL gave us Dennis Miller, too. Not as bad as Victoria Jackson, but I still wonder what fucked those people up.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
Quote from: stelz on June 10, 2013, 09:55:54 PM
That particular vintage of SNL gave us Dennis Miller, too. Not as bad as Victoria Jackson, but I still wonder what fucked those people up.

Washed up career + "controversy" = Pretend you're still a celeb.

Victoria Jackson has become the face of the po'bucker nation.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
Distinctly heard "niggers go home" in the opening few seconds.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:11:08 PM
QuoteProtester Larry McIntosh, 54, of Manchester, said he was skeptical of Killian and Moore.

"I feel like (these) men are attempting to intimidate people with the freedom of speech and that bothers me," he said. "I would like to say that Muslims have a right to live here and worship freely, but I do not think they have the right to change American law to fit Sharia law. Violence no matter where it comes from bothers me."

Former "Saturday Night Live" star Victoria Jackson was among the protesters.

"The Constitution and Sharia cannot coexist," she said. "Islam is evil."

Bolded part is particularly lulzy, and Victoria Jackson has apparently never read the 1st amendment in her entire stupid, overfed life.  But that's hardly a surprise.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.

Who said that?
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.

Who said that?

Can't remember.  It was during the big privilege riot.

Thing is, I know that not all Southeasterners are po'buckers, and not all po'buckers are Southeasterners.   But I will say that the highest concentration of po'buckers are in Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.

Who said that?

Can't remember.  It was during the big privilege riot.

Thing is, I know that not all Southeasterners are po'buckers, and not all po'buckers are Southeasterners.   But I will say that the highest concentration of po'buckers are in Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

Yeeep. It's fucking scary here.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 11, 2013, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.

Actually, the issue was twofold: One, that there is a higher rate of racism (and of poverty) among Whites in the South, and two, that stereotyping Southerners is just as bigoted as stereotyping any other group.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2013, 04:26:34 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 11, 2013, 04:24:55 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.

Actually, the issue was twofold: One, that there is a higher rate of racism (and of poverty) among Whites in the South, and two, that stereotyping Southerners is just as bigoted as stereotyping any other group.

I suppose that's correct.

Still.  Tennessee.

RECALCULATING...RECALCULATING...RECALCULATING...
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 11, 2013, 04:27:28 AM
If they were all like that, there wouldn't be anybody left for the po'buckers to be like that AT.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 11, 2013, 05:15:51 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:23:00 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:21:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:13:33 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 10, 2013, 10:11:51 PM
All sorts of wonderful sentiments were expressed in this open-minded communal forum. I'm so glad to see the community coming together on important issues.

I distinctly remember being told, on this very board, that the SE was just the same as the rest of the country, and that making fun of these morons was the same as making fun of Blacks, etc.

Well, I have to say that you'd never see any shit like this in Tucson or Chicago.

Who said that?

Can't remember.  It was during the big privilege riot.

Thing is, I know that not all Southeasterners are po'buckers, and not all po'buckers are Southeasterners.   But I will say that the highest concentration of po'buckers are in Georgia, Alabama, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

A lot of Kentucky people are very friendly, and share whatever they have freely.
Until they see you in the same car with a Black person.
THEN THEY ALL SHUN YOU. Fact. Had it happen.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Bruno on June 11, 2013, 10:57:34 AM
I've had my doubts that Tennessee was worse than average as far as racism, but it's probably just something in the back of my mind to make me feel better about being stuck here. Not sure, but it's possible that non-southern racists are drawn to the south, and my experiences with these people have skewed my perception of the rest of the country, making it seem more racist. I may not be the only one with this warp in their perception. I suspect it to be a wide spread complex amongst southern liberals. Somebody should do a study.

I've insulated myself somewhat from that part of the local culture. My workplace is pretty diverse. Less than half the people at my level are white. The manager is a black lady, but everyone above her, as far as I can tell, is a rich white guy, and I don't think they are from the south. California, mostly, if I recall. Our insurance package covers domestic partners, which amazed me when I found out.

I was, and still am disappointed with this bullshit. The Muslims have been here for decades, and I never heard a peep out of anyone about it until they tried to build themselves a nice building to do their thing in. Then it was all "ZOMG!! INVASION!!!!".

For some reason, it kind of caught me by surprise.

Way to go, Tennessee. I didn't think you still had it in you.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Bruno on June 11, 2013, 12:13:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
Distinctly heard "niggers go home" in the opening few seconds.

I think he's saying "traitors".
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 11, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 11, 2013, 12:13:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 10, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
Distinctly heard "niggers go home" in the opening few seconds.

I think he's saying "traitors".

If they're traitors, isn't home by definition where they are?  :lulz:
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 11, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on June 11, 2013, 10:57:34 AM
I've had my doubts that Tennessee was worse than average as far as racism, but it's probably just something in the back of my mind to make me feel better about being stuck here. Not sure, but it's possible that non-southern racists are drawn to the south, and my experiences with these people have skewed my perception of the rest of the country, making it seem more racist. I may not be the only one with this warp in their perception. I suspect it to be a wide spread complex amongst southern liberals. Somebody should do a study.

I've insulated myself somewhat from that part of the local culture. My workplace is pretty diverse. Less than half the people at my level are white. The manager is a black lady, but everyone above her, as far as I can tell, is a rich white guy, and I don't think they are from the south. California, mostly, if I recall. Our insurance package covers domestic partners, which amazed me when I found out.

I was, and still am disappointed with this bullshit. The Muslims have been here for decades, and I never heard a peep out of anyone about it until they tried to build themselves a nice building to do their thing in. Then it was all "ZOMG!! INVASION!!!!".

For some reason, it kind of caught me by surprise.

Way to go, Tennessee. I didn't think you still had it in you.

I heard a LOT of "peeps" from the time they started moving here in the 80's. The first time was when I was travelling with some then-friends and stopped at a hotel. There were some Indian women working there (and they appeared to be Hindus, not Muslims) and just when I was thinking how cool it was to see people from there, my so-called cool friends started muttering about "A-rabs", "dot-heads" and "sand n-s", and how much they hated them. 

I don't even know where it came from. This was WAY before 911.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2013, 06:51:55 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Of course Arafat and his PLO buddies back in the 70s didn't exactly help matters.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Junkenstein on June 11, 2013, 06:55:01 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Amusing that if you change "Was" to "IS" that entire sentence still applies. That frame is bolted to the wall. And guarded.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
No, they didn't.  Taking the fight internationally may have been portrayed as a logical step based on the situation in the occupied territories at the time, but it had way more to do with the PLO asserting dominance over other Palestinian groups, using it's higher profile to get more recruits, funding etc.

That this would involve blowback on the Palestianian cause as a whole, did not, as far as I can tell, unduly concern Arafat or the PLO leadership.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2013, 06:59:39 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
No, they didn't.  Taking the fight internationally may have been portrayed as a logical step based on the situation in the occupied territories at the time, but it had way more to do with the PLO asserting dominance over other Palestinian groups, using it's higher profile to get more recruits, funding etc.

That this would involve blowback on the Palestianian cause as a whole, did not, as far as I can tell, unduly concern Arafat or the PLO leadership.

And this is part of the reason people say "Israel is our only ally in the region", despite the fact that they have never, ever acted as an ally.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 11, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Yeah. And the fact that dumbass Texans can't differentiate between Iran, India and Arabia anyway.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 11, 2013, 07:14:39 PM
IMMA HEAD ON DOWN TO THE IRANIAN STORE AND GIT SUM BEERS - Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING FROM THEM DOTHEADS?
          /
:mullet:
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Junkenstein on June 11, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: stelz on June 11, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Yeah. And the fact that dumbass Texans can't differentiate between Iran, India and Arabia anyway.
Consider yourself lucky.

I had to discipline someone today regarding racism and not knowing the difference between Africa and India.

"Jerome" is not a "Paki". He's from south london you horrible retard. And he MUST have told you by now that his parents came here from Nigeria.

Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 11, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 11, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: stelz on June 11, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Yeah. And the fact that dumbass Texans can't differentiate between Iran, India and Arabia anyway.
Consider yourself lucky.

I had to discipline someone today regarding racism and not knowing the difference between Africa and India.

"Jerome" is not a "Paki". He's from south london you horrible retard. And he MUST have told you by now that his parents came here from Nigeria.

Don't matter to people like that. Jerome's parents are from Not-Here.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: El Twid on June 11, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 11, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: stelz on June 11, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Yeah. And the fact that dumbass Texans can't differentiate between Iran, India and Arabia anyway.
Consider yourself lucky.

I had to discipline someone today regarding racism and not knowing the difference between Africa and India.

"Jerome" is not a "Paki". He's from south london you horrible retard. And he MUST have told you by now that his parents came here from Nigeria.

Don't matter to people like that. Jerome's parents are from Not-Here.

Wog-land.  To many Westerners, that's the only description that exists.
Title: Re: Feds give presentation on hate speech in Manchester, TN, Heckled by angry mob
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 11, 2013, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 11, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: El Twid on June 11, 2013, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 11, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: stelz on June 11, 2013, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 11, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
Arabs had a bad rep in the US due to various Middle East shenanigans dating back to the 60s.  Remember, the accepted framing of the Israeli-Arab issues was "plucky Holocaust survivors threatened by monolithic totalitarian religious threat" rather than "South Africa 2.0".

Yeah. And the fact that dumbass Texans can't differentiate between Iran, India and Arabia anyway.
Consider yourself lucky.

I had to discipline someone today regarding racism and not knowing the difference between Africa and India.

"Jerome" is not a "Paki". He's from south london you horrible retard. And he MUST have told you by now that his parents came here from Nigeria.

Don't matter to people like that. Jerome's parents are from Not-Here.

Wog-land.  To many Westerners, that's the only description that exists.

Yep. No one can find a particular country on a globe unless it's the new thing in the news. Then everyone scrambles to become an expert on it.