1. I have been beaten and molested as a child, and raped as a teenager and adult. I'm not the only person here who has. It's not like these things are unusual, nor do they grant the bearer a free pass on having a knee-jerk reaction.
2. I don't give a flying fuck what your personal experiences are, if you are using them as an excuse to not be a compassionate, thinking, bipedal human being.
3. If you are not interested in hearing counterarguments, and are only looking to spew kneejerk vitriol, kindly do not post in my threads.
Thank you.
i have feelings
so everyone shut up forever and agree with me
People who have done horrendous things do not deserve to be treated like people, because I said so.
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on June 12, 2013, 02:28:10 AM
People who have done horrendous things do not deserve to be treated like people, because I said so.
THOSE WHO HAVE DONE EVIL, THEY MUST NOT BE HUMAN
because I am human, and I cannot be like They are
I missed something interesting again, didn't I?
Heyyyy
This is also not a "trounce Hylierandom" thread. This is me communicating with her as an equal, because I believe she deserves the communication. And because I believe it might be a beneficial communication, me to her.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 12, 2013, 06:46:03 AM
Heyyyy
This is also not a "trounce Hylierandom" thread. This is me communicating with her as an equal, because I believe she deserves the communication. And because I believe it might be a beneficial communication, me to her.
In that spirit, I'd like to apologize for going apeshit in my previous two posts ITT. I got a little overexcited.
edit: apology is directed at both Nigel and Hylierandom
I'd just like to say that I've kind of liked her posts. When on topic, you seem to have something interesting to say. Maybe drop the "..."'s, but that's just me.
Summary on what I missed?
So far Dec24/VON Douchebag posted "Edgy" comments, and got burned alive?
The Hyper guy is posting rape memes to target people in here who have been raped?
Or something bigger is going on?
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 12, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
I'd just like to say that I've kind of liked her posts. When on topic, you seem to have something interesting to say. Maybe drop the "..."'s, but that's just me.
Yeah, I think she says interesting things. I just didn't like the whole I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ANGRY AND INFLAMMATORY AND I'M NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO COUNTERARGUMENTS I'M LEAVING THE THREAD drive-by she pulled in one of my threads.
Either treat me like I'm worth your time to have a thoughtful discussion with, or stay out of my threads, is what I'm asking. Don't shit in my thread and leave.
Unless you actually have that little respect for me and that's what we're doing now, because I can play that too.
For future reference Nigel. If I ever made you feel that way in any threads you've made I'm not trying to; usually I don't have anyhtign to contribute since the point(s) I wanted to make have already been said. That and sometimes I feel I might come off as that assclown Holist.
Hylie has issues, but she doesn't seem like a lost cause. Nigel had the correct motorcycle.
Quote from: /b/earman on June 12, 2013, 07:47:28 PM
For future reference Nigel. If I ever made you feel that way in any threads you've made I'm not trying to; usually I don't have anyhtign to contribute since the point(s) I wanted to make have already been said. That and sometimes I feel I might come off as that assclown Holist.
Nawman, if I ever feel that way I just say something. We're cool.
Quote from: /b/earman on June 12, 2013, 07:29:15 PM
Summary on what I missed?
So far Dec24/VON Douchebag posted "Edgy" comments, and got burned alive?
The Hyper guy is posting rape memes to target people in here who have been raped?
Or something bigger is going on?
Douche14 posted gore porn and got banned.
Hylie isn't posting anything bad, she just made a really strong statement in one of my threads, said she isn't open to hearing any counterargument and hinted at personal reasons, and fucked off out of the thread. I thought that was a shitty way of talking to me so I said so. Here instead of in that thread since she said she wasn't going to continue participating there.
I'd love to get some acknowledgement from her, but if I don't, whatever, I guess. I'll file her under "Khara" and be done with it.
Eh, that was pretty bad.
But she seems all right generally, if presumptuous.
Short tempers abound, but refusing to discuss something after...discussing it...with vitriol...is pretty lame.
We've all flown off the handle a time or two, but its how you handle afterward that makes the difference.
Sulking for months on end usually works for me
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 12, 2013, 09:09:30 PM
Quote from: /b/earman on June 12, 2013, 07:29:15 PM
Summary on what I missed?
So far Dec24/VON Douchebag posted "Edgy" comments, and got burned alive?
The Hyper guy is posting rape memes to target people in here who have been raped?
Or something bigger is going on?
Douche14 posted gore porn and got banned.
Hylie isn't posting anything bad, she just made a really strong statement in one of my threads, said she isn't open to hearing any counterargument and hinted at personal reasons, and fucked off out of the thread. I thought that was a shitty way of talking to me so I said so. Here instead of in that thread since she said she wasn't going to continue participating there.
I'd love to get some acknowledgement from her, but if I don't, whatever, I guess. I'll file her under "Khara" and be done with it.
The "walking away from a confrontation you start" business gets old.
Not hating on her, just saying that it's frustrating. Either you're in the conversation or you're not. There's not much more irritating than responding to someone's back.
At this point, I'm not expecting a response. I think she's gone.
Seems like a stupid thing to flounce over, but whatever.
Discordia is not nice. And when it tries to be you've already gone.
Quote from: Junkenstein on June 13, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Discordia is not nice. And when it tries to be you've already gone.
I think there used to be people who complained about that kind of thing.
Fuck those jerks.
Well, I for one, am mortified that I have failed to live up to everyone's high standards with respect to dealing with passive-aggressive people.
I shall be sure to chastise myself properly. Or to hire it out to professionals.
One or the other.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
Well, I for one, am mortified that I have failed to live up to everyone's high standards with respect to dealing with passive-aggressive people.
I shall be sure to chastise myself properly. Or to hire it out to professionals.
One or the other.
:???:
My policy toward the passive aggression is the application of aggressive aggression.
Quote from: Alty on June 13, 2013, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
Well, I for one, am mortified that I have failed to live up to everyone's high standards with respect to dealing with passive-aggressive people.
I shall be sure to chastise myself properly. Or to hire it out to professionals.
One or the other.
:???:
My policy toward the passive aggression is the application of aggressive aggression.
My policy toward all other policies is naked sarcasm.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: Alty on June 13, 2013, 07:31:33 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 13, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
Well, I for one, am mortified that I have failed to live up to everyone's high standards with respect to dealing with passive-aggressive people.
I shall be sure to chastise myself properly. Or to hire it out to professionals.
One or the other.
:???:
My policy toward the passive aggression is the application of aggressive aggression.
My policy toward all other policies is naked sarcasm.
:lol:
My policy towards any kind of aggression on the internet is uncontrollable laughter. :lulz:
Funny, that's everybody's policy towards you. :lulz:
:internettoughguy:
I was having a shitty day, and it was a triggery issue.
It's not that I disrespect you. I do respect you.
My response is totally irrational.
I know that.
I don't think cyberstalking him was the best response.
I think the best response would have been to get him to clarify that he was under the impression that he was making these lewd propositions to a kid, then if he went forward, turned the whole thing over to the police.
My thought would be to put the guy in jail. That's where he belongs if he's going to keep sexting little girls.
He's very dumb or a high-functioning retarded person.
Do you think that makes him any less dangerous?
Edited to add:
Basically, I really did get genuinely angry. Not enough to throw furniture, but smaller objects.
This while I was typing.
...I really think I ought to just stay off any thread that talks about such things in the future.
I think you're maybe missing the point a little.
Getting genuinely angry is fine. It's good, even. But it's not a valid reason to shut yourself down to the possibility of discussion. And if you decide to respond that way anyway, just don't say anything at all rather than "YARGANARGH! OH BTW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ANYMORE WITH ANY OF YOU." Because that's lame as hell regardless of how you justify it to yourself.
Yes, what he said.
If you find yourself incapable of listening to the other side of things, it is a very good indicator that you should not be engaging in any kind of conversation about the topic at hand. Or somethiing. I don't know, because I'm too fucking pissed off that some asstard threw a thing at my fucking face as I was typing this post, and I kind of lost my train of thought.
Quote from: Balls Wellington on June 14, 2013, 05:54:48 AM
I think you're maybe missing the point a little.
Getting genuinely angry is fine. It's good, even. But it's not a valid reason to shut yourself down to the possibility of discussion. And if you decide to respond that way anyway, just don't say anything at all rather than "YARGANARGH! OH BTW I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS ANYMORE WITH ANY OF YOU." Because that's lame as hell regardless of how you justify it to yourself.
Understood. It is lame.
It was a mistake for me to post at all on something that gets me that upset.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 14, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
I was having a shitty day, and it was a triggery issue.
It's not that I disrespect you. I do respect you.
My response is totally irrational.
I know that.
I don't think cyberstalking him was the best response.
I think the best response would have been to get him to clarify that he was under the impression that he was making these lewd propositions to a kid, then if he went forward, turned the whole thing over to the police.
My thought would be to put the guy in jail. That's where he belongs if he's going to keep sexting little girls.
He's very dumb or a high-functioning retarded person.
Do you think that makes him any less dangerous?
Edited to add:
Basically, I really did get genuinely angry. Not enough to throw furniture, but smaller objects.
This while I was typing.
...I really think I ought to just stay off any thread that talks about such things in the future.
I'm really glad to hear from you. I thought you had bailed, and that kind of bummed me out.
The thing is, my post wasn't about him. My post was about the groupthink behavior of the mob who went after him.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 14, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 14, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
I was having a shitty day, and it was a triggery issue.
It's not that I disrespect you. I do respect you.
My response is totally irrational.
I know that.
I don't think cyberstalking him was the best response.
I think the best response would have been to get him to clarify that he was under the impression that he was making these lewd propositions to a kid, then if he went forward, turned the whole thing over to the police.
My thought would be to put the guy in jail. That's where he belongs if he's going to keep sexting little girls.
He's very dumb or a high-functioning retarded person.
Do you think that makes him any less dangerous?
Edited to add:
Basically, I really did get genuinely angry. Not enough to throw furniture, but smaller objects.
This while I was typing.
...I really think I ought to just stay off any thread that talks about such things in the future.
I'm really glad to hear from you. I thought you had bailed, and that kind of bummed me out.
The thing is, my post wasn't about him. My post was about the groupthink behavior of the mob who went after him.
True.
Your sympathies seemed to lie with the incompetent would-be kiddie-diddler.
Perhaps I was...mistaken?
...That's what filled me with rage and disgust, I suppose.
So I thought it a good idea to go elsewhere until I was ready to behave somewhat rationally.
I was not exactly myself at that point.
All of us here have sometimes read a post, interpreted it and blown up. Often, our interpretation of the post was flat wrong or missed the point that the poster was making. Then there may be flouncing, or apologies or some combination of those.
So, welcome to the club!
:lulz:
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 14, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
I'm really glad to hear from you. I thought you had bailed, and that kind of bummed me out.
Me too.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 14, 2013, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 14, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 14, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
I was having a shitty day, and it was a triggery issue.
It's not that I disrespect you. I do respect you.
My response is totally irrational.
I know that.
I don't think cyberstalking him was the best response.
I think the best response would have been to get him to clarify that he was under the impression that he was making these lewd propositions to a kid, then if he went forward, turned the whole thing over to the police.
My thought would be to put the guy in jail. That's where he belongs if he's going to keep sexting little girls.
He's very dumb or a high-functioning retarded person.
Do you think that makes him any less dangerous?
Edited to add:
Basically, I really did get genuinely angry. Not enough to throw furniture, but smaller objects.
This while I was typing.
...I really think I ought to just stay off any thread that talks about such things in the future.
I'm really glad to hear from you. I thought you had bailed, and that kind of bummed me out.
The thing is, my post wasn't about him. My post was about the groupthink behavior of the mob who went after him.
True.
Your sympathies seemed to lie with the incompetent would-be kiddie-diddler.
Perhaps I was...mistaken?
...That's what filled me with rage and disgust, I suppose.
So I thought it a good idea to go elsewhere until I was ready to behave somewhat rationally.
I was not exactly myself at that point.
After a certain point, they did. The mob was completely, horrifyingly out of hand and it was fairly obvious that he was A. mentally incompetent and B. had no interest in underage girls. He REALLY BELIEVED that the women he was texting were interested in him. There people were seriously fucking with his life, and believed they were justified in doing so, much like your knee-jerk reaction was that he deserved anything he got. It's fucked up, and reminds me of Zimbardo's treatise on how good people come to do evil things.
Actual evil comes from that kind of mindset. I think it's important to know that.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 14, 2013, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 14, 2013, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on June 14, 2013, 06:24:09 AM
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on June 14, 2013, 05:32:29 AM
I was having a shitty day, and it was a triggery issue.
It's not that I disrespect you. I do respect you.
My response is totally irrational.
I know that.
I don't think cyberstalking him was the best response.
I think the best response would have been to get him to clarify that he was under the impression that he was making these lewd propositions to a kid, then if he went forward, turned the whole thing over to the police.
My thought would be to put the guy in jail. That's where he belongs if he's going to keep sexting little girls.
He's very dumb or a high-functioning retarded person.
Do you think that makes him any less dangerous?
Edited to add:
Basically, I really did get genuinely angry. Not enough to throw furniture, but smaller objects.
This while I was typing.
...I really think I ought to just stay off any thread that talks about such things in the future.
I'm really glad to hear from you. I thought you had bailed, and that kind of bummed me out.
The thing is, my post wasn't about him. My post was about the groupthink behavior of the mob who went after him.
True.
Your sympathies seemed to lie with the incompetent would-be kiddie-diddler.
Perhaps I was...mistaken?
...That's what filled me with rage and disgust, I suppose.
So I thought it a good idea to go elsewhere until I was ready to behave somewhat rationally.
I was not exactly myself at that point.
After a certain point, they did. The mob was completely, horrifyingly out of hand and it was fairly obvious that he was A. mentally incompetent and B. had no interest in underage girls. He REALLY BELIEVED that the women he was texting were interested in him. There people were seriously fucking with his life, and believed they were justified in doing so, much like your knee-jerk reaction was that he deserved anything he got. It's fucked up, and reminds me of Zimbardo's treatise on how good people come to do evil things.
Actual evil comes from that kind of mindset. I think it's important to know that.
It does...and he does sound more pathetic than menacing.
So I was simply mistaken, and went all explody.
You feel what you feel. But when you speak or act, you get consequences to those words or actions. Which is where the adult underroos come in. It ain't no big, everyone's human.
Except for maybe the Dok. I think he's a sentient shag carpet. And LMNO is the incarnation of FABULOUS. But other than that, y'know.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on June 15, 2013, 12:01:13 AM
You feel what you feel. But when you speak or act, you get consequences to those words or actions. Which is where the adult underroos come in. It ain't no big, everyone's human.
Except for maybe the Dok. I think he's a sentient shag carpet. And LMNO is the incarnation of FABULOUS. But other than that, y'know.
:lulz: