He was a dick, Hinkleman. He was a dick to you and a dick to his wife and a dick to everyone he ever interacted with, there's no "hidden nice side" all of us are forgetting or glossing over. He was a dick when he was healthy and a dick when he was sick and I swear to fucking Zod in the Phantom Zone if there is any kind of an afterlife at all he is there being a dick right now. You don't have to feel bad about it. Seriously, how many second chances did he get? How many times were you sitting there by his hospital bed with the doctors saying "THIS IS FUCKING IT, FOR REALS THIS TIME" and he just sat there being a dick at your brother and you and everyone up to and including the doctors who were trying to save his fucking worthless life. Really? You're going to act horrified at that one? Yeah, I know he was a dick because untreated mental illness, but do you remember why it went untreated? Because he was a dick every time someone offered help. It's not like he didn't know there was a problem, and it's not like it wasn't fucking treatable. It's not like it was goddamned dementia, he just didn't want to bother taking any amount of time figuring out his own shit so he could stop being a dick at all of you. The bastard dug his heels in and wouldn't do it. Like a goddamn three year old. Christ, man, it's not like he was an idiot. He knew this was his one chance on the merry go round. This life we have, this world of motion, it's the only place where the caterpillar can turn into the butterfly, and he wasted it. Had more time than a lot of us will, and no shortage of chances to do something with himself. But no. He spent his whole life making sure that he would always stay what he was, and that was a dick. He didn't want to be better, so fuck him.
Let's go get drunk.
how long before "i know deep down hes a good person" turn into being a codependent and an enabler?
Quote from: The Johnny on July 12, 2013, 02:03:35 AM
how long before "i know deep down hes a good person" turn into being a codependent and an enabler?
In my family, ten minutes or less.
Slight edits for garbled sentences and poor word choices.
Quote from: The Johnny on July 12, 2013, 02:03:35 AM
how long before "i know deep down hes a good person" turn into being a codependent and an enabler?
Lot's of people are good people, superficially
and deep down. You don't have to dig through tons of shit to enjoy them so fuck the deep downs, life is too short.
This is harder for some people to do, especially if it's family. I got lucky. My family split up and I got pressured to pick a side. "Waitaminute, I get to fucking choose?" I thought, "Awesome! Both of you, go fuck yourselves." Felt much better after that.
Nowadays, if someone is a good person, deep down, that's where I bury the fucker. :evil:
Who's Hinkleman?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 12, 2013, 03:49:31 PM
Who's Hinkleman?
Gogira, Hinkleman, Lady Ermine, Dr. Hand, and Fish Hat all first appeared in a small pamphlet that was backstory for a vampire game I was helping to run. They were the core group of a band of Discordians that got the local pagans banned for a couple decades because they (well, mostly Dr. Hand) thought it would be a good idea to go steal all the gold from Fort Knox in a van with blacked out windows.
Um. I'm not sure if this is my thread.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 12, 2013, 10:43:04 AM
Nowadays, if someone is a good person, deep down, that's where I bury the fucker. :evil:
8)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 03:28:31 AM
Um. I'm not sure if this is my thread.
:?
I just needed to throw a name in there.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 12, 2013, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on July 12, 2013, 02:03:35 AM
how long before "i know deep down hes a good person" turn into being a codependent and an enabler?
Lot's of people are good people, superficially and deep down. You don't have to dig through tons of shit to enjoy them so fuck the deep downs, life is too short.
This is harder for some people to do, especially if it's family. I got lucky. My family split up and I got pressured to pick a side. "Waitaminute, I get to fucking choose?" I thought, "Awesome! Both of you, go fuck yourselves." Felt much better after that.
Nowadays, if someone is a good person, deep down, that's where I bury the fucker. :evil:
Yeah man, if they happened to act like dicks in a given circumstance, they either did really mean it, or they will apologize in due manner after they realize what they done.
We mostly have actions to make accurate judgements, because talk is cheap, and what is going on in their heads is a black-box we dont have access to.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 13, 2013, 03:44:56 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 03:28:31 AM
Um. I'm not sure if this is my thread.
:?
I just needed to throw a name in there.
Ah. So, someone was physically incapable of being rational, and was incapable of accepting help, and from what I can gathered, died.
And you're more angry than compassionate.
Got it.
Unless there's something I don't know.
Willing to listen.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 04:18:37 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 13, 2013, 03:44:56 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 03:28:31 AM
Um. I'm not sure if this is my thread.
:?
I just needed to throw a name in there.
Ah. So, someone was physically incapable of being rational, and was incapable of accepting help, and from what I can gathered, died.
And you're more angry than compassionate.
Got it.
Unless there's something I don't know.
Willing to listen.
No, that's basically it. He's not dead yet, but it's been 5 months of "we can't do anything for him" and he's literally lying there at home waiting to die and still being a dick. After the liver transplant two years ago and the open heart surgery 6 years ago. I may be bitter about the one week notice we got on my mom being sick.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 13, 2013, 04:43:25 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 04:18:37 AM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on July 13, 2013, 03:44:56 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 03:28:31 AM
Um. I'm not sure if this is my thread.
:?
I just needed to throw a name in there.
Ah. So, someone was physically incapable of being rational, and was incapable of accepting help, and from what I can gathered, died.
And you're more angry than compassionate.
Got it.
Unless there's something I don't know.
Willing to listen.
No, that's basically it. He's not dead yet, but it's been 5 months of "we can't do anything for him" and he's literally lying there at home waiting to die and still being a dick. After the liver transplant two years ago and the open heart surgery 6 years ago. I may be bitter about the one week notice we got on my mom being sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A
Hold on.. I may be crossing a line, but is it a close family member we're talking about?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on July 13, 2013, 04:53:21 AM
Hold on.. I may be crossing a line, but is it a close family member we're talking about?
I don't know if answering that would be crossing a line. I didn't anonymize it for no reason.
Quote from: The Johnny on July 13, 2013, 03:49:13 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 12, 2013, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on July 12, 2013, 02:03:35 AM
how long before "i know deep down hes a good person" turn into being a codependent and an enabler?
Lot's of people are good people, superficially and deep down. You don't have to dig through tons of shit to enjoy them so fuck the deep downs, life is too short.
This is harder for some people to do, especially if it's family. I got lucky. My family split up and I got pressured to pick a side. "Waitaminute, I get to fucking choose?" I thought, "Awesome! Both of you, go fuck yourselves." Felt much better after that.
Nowadays, if someone is a good person, deep down, that's where I bury the fucker. :evil:
Yeah man, if they happened to act like dicks in a given circumstance, they either did really mean it, or they will apologize in due manner after they realize what they done.
We mostly have actions to make accurate judgements, because talk is cheap, and what is going on in their heads is a black-box we dont have access to.
Bingo! Or, in other words, you are what you do.