Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2013, 01:03:24 AM

Title: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2013, 01:03:24 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/tourist-statue-snaps-finger-italy-155158700.html

:facepalm:
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2013, 01:14:58 AM
Oh my god.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EyuAB-4MHaQ/TbgQcXNZpyI/AAAAAAAAGUU/IVkphBhff-A/s1600/Epic_Facepalm_5452.png)
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on August 07, 2013, 01:30:59 AM
I am amazed that the man was intelligent enough to wander out of Missouri and to Italy in the first place but not smart enough to keep his god damn hands to himself.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Suu on August 07, 2013, 03:11:41 AM
It's been found that he wasn't from Missouri, but from FUCKING WESTERN CONNECTICUT.

CAINAD!!!!!!! YOU'RE LETTING THEM OUT OF THE STATE AGAIN!  :argh!:
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Aucoq on August 07, 2013, 03:29:53 AM
Ugh.  Why the hell would you touch any artwork in a museum, especially when it's hundreds of years old?  I've seen some pretty badass works in my short life, but I've never had the urge to touch them if for no other reason than because I wouldn't want to run the risk of damaging them.  I don't get how you can be so stupid/careless/thoughtless/whatever.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Suu on August 07, 2013, 04:20:37 AM
There is an effigy of a knight and his wife at the Cloisters in NYC...it's MELTING from all the oils from people touching it. There is a sign right there that says, 'THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TOUCH' and people STILL FUCKING TOUCH.  :argh!:

(http://i1050.photobucket.com/albums/s414/KidistPhotos1/HusbandWifeSarcophagusCloistersNewYork_zps2be46f27.jpg)




Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Don Coyote on August 07, 2013, 05:10:27 AM
I kinda want to always touch all the arts. All the time. And sometimes taste the arts.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Suu on August 07, 2013, 05:36:42 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 07, 2013, 05:10:27 AM
I kinda want to always touch all the arts. All the time. And sometimes taste the arts.

Dimo did that last summer at the RISD Museum. He hasn't been quite right since...

...Oh, and they closed the Asian floor suddenly and it's not slated to re-open until next Spring.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 07, 2013, 08:06:06 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 07, 2013, 05:10:27 AM
I kinda want to always touch all the arts. All the time. And sometimes taste the arts.

Many of the arts are made out of arsenic and lead.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 07, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
from the comments...
QuoteStill not as bad as the old lady that tried to restore a fresco

Okay, so sometimes touching the arts is justified  :evil:
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Cain on August 07, 2013, 09:35:12 AM
People like this are slowly destroying Florence.

It used to be that at least half of the iconic pieces of art which represent the city, statues especially, were in the main Piazza.  But because people can't keep their hands to their fucking selves, they've had to replace most of them with replicas and put the real ones behind several dozen bomb screening systems and surround them with 24 hour security.  And still people wont stop ruining them.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 07, 2013, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: Suu on August 07, 2013, 03:11:41 AM
It's been found that he wasn't from Missouri, but from FUCKING WESTERN CONNECTICUT.

CAINAD!!!!!!! YOU'RE LETTING THEM OUT OF THE STATE AGAIN!  :argh!:

I was coerced. He broke my pinky finger :(
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 07, 2013, 03:23:35 PM
So, over the years I have been gradually revising my feelings about the human desire to touch and change things and the transience of art.

I am still torn, but I am getting closer to an acceptance that the desire to touch is a fundamental part of human nature. So is the need to change things. Here in Portland there is a small, peculiar and very vocal group which is very strongly attached to the idea of things the way they were at a particular point in time... they lament the demolition of every old building and the renovation of every park, even when it's for the better for those living in the present and future. I think that their unfortunate stuck-ness in a nostalgia tomb of memories and clinging to the idea of everything remaining the same has done a lot for me in terms of changing how I feel about beautiful things passing out of current existence.

Funny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Junkenstein on August 07, 2013, 04:56:15 PM
QuoteFunny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?

Historical cognitive dissonance. The new is never as important as the old.

Kind of curious, does anyone else think that art will become more interactive in the near future? As noted, people everywhere can't help but touch these things. You've not really been there and seen it unless you've touched it. I'd guess that exhibits that make the touching aspect part of the experience to be something we'll see more of. Just a hunch as touch seems to be an area that is somewhat neglected.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Suu on August 07, 2013, 04:57:13 PM
Quote from: Cainad on August 07, 2013, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: Suu on August 07, 2013, 03:11:41 AM
It's been found that he wasn't from Missouri, but from FUCKING WESTERN CONNECTICUT.

CAINAD!!!!!!! YOU'RE LETTING THEM OUT OF THE STATE AGAIN!  :argh!:

I was coerced. He broke my pinky finger :(

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on August 07, 2013, 09:13:58 PM
I know some museums deal with the problem by giving people a couple things they're allowed to touch. Not sure how effective it is as a deterrent, though.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Don Coyote on August 07, 2013, 10:16:12 PM
I think I need to get pictures of art that had been touched abs place then between stanzas in "Touching Harms the Art"
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Suu on August 07, 2013, 10:50:48 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 07, 2013, 09:13:58 PM
I know some museums deal with the problem by giving people a couple things they're allowed to touch. Not sure how effective it is as a deterrent, though.

The Higgins does that.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2013, 01:17:25 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 07, 2013, 10:16:12 PM
I think I need to get pictures of art that had been touched abs place then between stanzas in "Touching Harms the Art"

Oh fuck, YES.

I loved that piece.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 08, 2013, 01:18:40 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 07, 2013, 04:56:15 PM
QuoteFunny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?

Historical cognitive dissonance. The new is never as important as the old.

Kind of curious, does anyone else think that art will become more interactive in the near future? As noted, people everywhere can't help but touch these things. You've not really been there and seen it unless you've touched it. I'd guess that exhibits that make the touching aspect part of the experience to be something we'll see more of. Just a hunch as touch seems to be an area that is somewhat neglected.

My last gallery piece was designed to be pawed through.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Junkenstein on August 08, 2013, 08:06:54 AM
Link? Curious now even though I won't get the effect really.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 08, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on August 07, 2013, 03:23:35 PM
So, over the years I have been gradually revising my feelings about the human desire to touch and change things and the transience of art.

I am still torn, but I am getting closer to an acceptance that the desire to touch is a fundamental part of human nature. So is the need to change things. Here in Portland there is a small, peculiar and very vocal group which is very strongly attached to the idea of things the way they were at a particular point in time... they lament the demolition of every old building and the renovation of every park, even when it's for the better for those living in the present and future. I think that their unfortunate stuck-ness in a nostalgia tomb of memories and clinging to the idea of everything remaining the same has done a lot for me in terms of changing how I feel about beautiful things passing out of current existence.

Funny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?

I'm kinda ambivalent about preserving art, to be honest. Art is an innate human need to take some atoms and arrange them in some arbitraty form. There's no way those atoms are going to stay that way forever so what we end up with, at best is a crumbling, radioactively decaying pile of increasingly less recognisable shit, that's a monument to some notion that went through some artists head, fuck knows how many years ago.

When the sistine chapel eventually crumbles into dust what happens? Nothing much, as far as I can tell. I mean, okay, a bunch of Michaelangelo fans will bitch and moan a bit but I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it's not the end of the world. It's not like all art everywhere will suddenly end because of it.

People make art. Art rots. People make more art. Works for me.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 08, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
QuoteFunny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?

TV breaks, not worth repairing, go out and buy a new TV. Wait time: Next payday.

TV in a wood cabinet breaks ca. 1960 or so, send it to the repair shop, no TV for a month?



Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on August 08, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
QuoteFunny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?

TV breaks, not worth repairing, go out and buy a new TV. Wait time: Next payday.

TV in a wood cabinet breaks ca. 1960 or so, send it to the repair shop, no TV for a month?

TV thrown away and replaced.  Old TV scavenged for parts in insanely toxic pits by 12 year olds, affected area poisoned for a thousand years.  TV watching, though, is largely uninterrupted.
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 08, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: Suu on August 07, 2013, 05:36:42 AM
Quote from: Don Coyote on August 07, 2013, 05:10:27 AM
I kinda want to always touch all the arts. All the time. And sometimes taste the arts.

Dimo did that last summer at the RISD Museum. He hasn't been quite right since...

...Oh, and they closed the Asian floor suddenly and it's not slated to re-open until next Spring.

He was right before?  :lol:
Title: Re: OH, AMERICA!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 08, 2013, 05:06:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 08, 2013, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: stelz on August 08, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
QuoteFunny, isn't it, that in a society where we insist that most of our day-to-day material goods be disposable, replaceable, we also insist that certain antiquities be preserved forever, untouched?

TV breaks, not worth repairing, go out and buy a new TV. Wait time: Next payday.

TV in a wood cabinet breaks ca. 1960 or so, send it to the repair shop, no TV for a month?

TV thrown away and replaced.  Old TV scavenged for parts in insanely toxic pits by 12 year olds, affected area poisoned for a thousand years.  TV watching, though, is largely uninterrupted.

AMURKIN PRIORITIES FUCK YEAH