Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 02:23:53 PM

Title: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
So I open up my email this morning, and I see this from the CEO:

QuoteDear Colleagues,
On Thursday and Friday this week, a team of your peers will gather offsite to establish our Values Blueprint. Our goal will be to define the values which [company name redacted] and its employees will embrace, and identify the specific behaviors that will bring those values to life. This is exciting and important work, and essential to completing what we began earlier this year by introducing our new name and our new brand. The essence of a company's brand begins with each and every employee, and having clarity about the values and the behaviors we all should emulate will help reinforce the strength of our brand in the marketplace, as well as significantly enhance our work environment.

Am I right to be slightly creeped out by the strongly "Corpwellian" language in this statement, or am I just seeing something that is now commonplace and safe to ignore?









*The phrase "full retard" is not intended to disparage or mock anyone who is living with a developmental disability.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: McGrupp on August 19, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
It's amazing how a full paragraph can convey so little. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what will happen on thursday and friday, other than that it will be both exciting and important.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
This doesn't look like benefits weaseling, this looks like "I need to get everyone on board as a BELIEVER, so that when the brand fails, I can spread the love around."

Whatever it is he's pushing, HE doesn't believe in it.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 19, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
It's amazing how a full paragraph can convey so little. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what will happen on thursday and friday, other than that it will be both exciting and important.

Translated to English, I think it says "Some of us will be deciding on new rules for you all to follow, and they're going to be mandatory."
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
This doesn't look like benefits weaseling, this looks like "I need to get everyone on board as a BELIEVER, so that when the brand fails, I can spread the love around."

Whatever it is he's pushing, HE doesn't believe in it.

she*

Your interpretation sounds almost sinister.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
This doesn't look like benefits weaseling, this looks like "I need to get everyone on board as a BELIEVER, so that when the brand fails, I can spread the love around."

Whatever it is he's pushing, HE doesn't believe in it.

she*

Your interpretation sounds almost sinister.

Almost as if meaningless-sounding memos could conceal something sinister.  Crazy, right?
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Suu on August 19, 2013, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 19, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
It's amazing how a full paragraph can convey so little. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what will happen on thursday and friday, other than that it will be both exciting and important.

Translated to English, I think it says "Some of us will be deciding on new rules for you all to follow, and they're going to be mandatory."

But it's EXCITING.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
This doesn't look like benefits weaseling, this looks like "I need to get everyone on board as a BELIEVER, so that when the brand fails, I can spread the love around."

Whatever it is he's pushing, HE doesn't believe in it.

she*

Your interpretation sounds almost sinister.

Almost as if meaningless-sounding memos could conceal something sinister.  Crazy, right?

It may indicate that the Suits have the impression that the company is experiencing "growing pains" due to the fact that we mere underlings do not have the right Values. In fact that's pretty much what it says outright. "You people do not have the correct values. Therefore, we will be herding a few of you into a room to educate them on what the correct values are, and then they will go forth to educate the rest of you." Also it has the definite subtext of "Or Else."
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 19, 2013, 03:14:37 PM
I'm guessing you don't work in the kind of place where punching someone in the face for coming away with bullshit like "values blueprint" is an acceptable response to a memo like this?
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 19, 2013, 03:14:37 PM
I'm guessing you don't work in the kind of place where punching someone in the face for coming away with bullshit like "values blueprint" is an acceptable response to a memo like this?

No, but I suspect my immediate urge to do that very thing in response to this is one of the values they seek to correct.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:15:28 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:08:27 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 03:05:37 PM
This doesn't look like benefits weaseling, this looks like "I need to get everyone on board as a BELIEVER, so that when the brand fails, I can spread the love around."

Whatever it is he's pushing, HE doesn't believe in it.

she*

Your interpretation sounds almost sinister.

Almost as if meaningless-sounding memos could conceal something sinister.  Crazy, right?

It may indicate that the Suits have the impression that the company is experiencing "growing pains" due to the fact that we mere underlings do not have the right Values. In fact that's pretty much what it says outright. "You people do not have the correct values. Therefore, we will be herding a few of you into a room to educate them on what the correct values are, and then they will go forth to educate the rest of you." Also it has the definite subtext of "Or Else."

Which is another way of saying "We have made a stupid decision, but WE sure as hell aren't taking responsibility for it."

Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Junkenstein on August 19, 2013, 03:21:44 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 19, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
It's amazing how a full paragraph can convey so little. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what will happen on thursday and friday, other than that it will be both exciting and important.

Translated to English, I think it says "Some of us will be deciding on new rules for you all to follow, and they're going to be mandatory."

Not Rules - Values.

Because the value system of a corporate entity is important. Without the right Values(TM) it might just go utterly insane. It might not try for ever increasing profits to the benefits of the shareholders. It might try to include some kind of social justice. Values must be instilled to thwart such behaviour at all costs.

Appropriate Values are Cutting cost, increasing productivity and increasing the almighty profit potential until it looks like a Jerry Springer obesity special guest. Anything else is clearly evil.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 19, 2013, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 19, 2013, 03:14:37 PM
I'm guessing you don't work in the kind of place where punching someone in the face for coming away with bullshit like "values blueprint" is an acceptable response to a memo like this?

No, but I suspect my immediate urge to do that very thing in response to this is one of the values they seek to correct.

No shit man, I applaud your ability to hold down a job like that. I have been scientifically proven to be incapable of working with "the public" for similar reasons and I'm pretty sure if a memo like that landed on my desk that my current tenure would conclude pretty shortly thereafter with a side order of jail time.  :eek:
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 19, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Has anyone attended any Leadership Workshops™ lately? Because this looks like a bad sign.

DANGER DANGER, CULTISTS INCOMING.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 19, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Has anyone attended any Leadership Workshops™ lately? Because this looks like a bad sign.

DANGER DANGER, CULTISTS INCOMING.

They keep using the words "reorganization" and "refocus." Personally I'm not super worried because I was just told I was moving into a "management" position (read: not real management, but sort of a responsibility buffer between my department and my boss).
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 19, 2013, 04:02:49 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 19, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Has anyone attended any Leadership Workshops™ lately? Because this looks like a bad sign.

DANGER DANGER, CULTISTS INCOMING.

They keep using the words "reorganization" and "refocus." Personally I'm not super worried because I was just told I was moving into a "management" position (read: not real management, but sort of a responsibility buffer between my department and my boss).

Hmmmm those words usually mean something bad, in my experience. They usually mean that somebody screwed up and they brought in a consulting firm to change a bunch of stuff to try to fix it.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 19, 2013, 04:02:49 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 19, 2013, 03:46:06 PM
Has anyone attended any Leadership Workshops™ lately? Because this looks like a bad sign.

DANGER DANGER, CULTISTS INCOMING.

They keep using the words "reorganization" and "refocus." Personally I'm not super worried because I was just told I was moving into a "management" position (read: not real management, but sort of a responsibility buffer between my department and my boss).

Hmmmm those words usually mean something bad, in my experience. They usually mean that somebody screwed up and they brought in a consulting firm to change a bunch of stuff to try to fix it.

Totally agree. I don't think they've hired the Bobs yet, though. They're trying to "bring the atmosphere into alignment with company ideals and values." Oh, and they have also prohibited any coffee sweetener that contains real sugar.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: LMNO on August 19, 2013, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
On Thursday and Friday this week, a team of your peers will gather offsite to establish our Values Blueprint. Our goal will be to define the values which [company name redacted] and its employees will embrace, and identify the specific behaviors that will bring those values to life.

We're going to create slogans, and you'll be expected to live up to them.  If you don't, it will count against you in your year-end reviews.  If you really don't, it will probably get you fired.

This is exciting and important work, and essential to completing what we began earlier this year by introducing our new name and our new brand. The essence of a company's brand begins with each and every employee, and having clarity about the values and the behaviors we all should emulate will help reinforce the strength of our brand in the marketplace, as well as significantly enhance our work environment.

Dance, monkey, dance.


That's pretty much it.


Use of "Reorganization" usually means cuts or new responsibilities.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Cramulus on August 19, 2013, 04:32:10 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 04:22:54 PM
Oh, and they have also prohibited any coffee sweetener that contains real sugar.


   WAT IS THIS SPLENDA SHIT??
                                               \
:spit:




all this shit about "values and behaviors" are one of those corporate things that make my skin crawl.

Like I get that a brand needs to have some kind of philosophy behind it

but I, as a laborer, don't really have the same values as the company. My values involve getting paid and not creating waves which will make my day more difficult. That means I have to internalize some of the company's DNA in order to go with the flow. But seriously though, you don't acquire real values because somebody who signs your pay checks sent you a memo.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Junkenstein on August 19, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
QuoteBut seriously though, you don't acquire real values because somebody who signs your pay checks sent you a memo.

UN-AMERICAN BEHAVIOUR ITT
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: LMNO on August 19, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
You're most likely gonna end up with something that we have here,

"Our core value is PRIDE."
•Professionalism
•Real Value to Our Customers
•Integrity
•Demonstrated Financial Strength
•Employer of Choice

What does this really mean, in terms of your job?  Not much. 
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: AFK on August 19, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
It's a new measurement that will be put on your evaluation, that you will never live up to (using the royal you), and give your employer another reason to never compensate you at your actual worth.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 04:50:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
You're most likely gonna end up with something that we have here,

"Our core value is PRIDE."
•Professionalism
•Real Value to Our Customers
•Integrity
•Demonstrated Financial Strength
•Employer of Choice

What does this really mean, in terms of your job?  Not much. 

Yeah pretty much this.

Knowing this company, I wouldn't be surprised if this entire thing came about simply because the Director of HR has a space on her wall that would be a nice place to put a plaque or something, but she couldn't find anything official enough to fill it.

Quote from: The End on August 19, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
It's a new measurement that will be put on your evaluation, that you will never live up to (using the royal you), and give your employer another reason to never compensate you at your actual worth.

Well, that would be in keeping with their current Performance Evaluation tactics, which ask you to rate yourself based on how well you completed milestones you set out for yourself at the previous Evaluation, and which have always changed or been cancelled by people higher on the food chain.
DISCLAIMER: REPLYING TO THIS COMMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T HATE YOU ON A VERY PERSONAL LEVEL
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: AFK on August 19, 2013, 05:07:41 PM
I've noticed that seems to be the new wave in performance evaluations.  Give the employee a chance to fill out all or a portion of the evaluation to give them a false sense of domain over thr outcomes.  I just had to give one of my staff an evaluation of that nature.  It asks them to rate themselves in many categories on a scale of one to five with five being exceeding expectations.  But in the instructions I was given as the manager it specifically says paraphrasing "only 5% of employees are actually good enough for fives so try to tone it down mister!"


To which of course I say, "fuck that noise".  If they are fives I'm gonna fucking give them fives.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Cramulus on August 19, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
employee self evaluation always struck me as inefficient horseshit

Performance evaluations are great if they provide you with real feedback about how to improve. As somebody who's very out of touch with office culture, I actually do want to hear feedback from my peers because I have no other gauge for if I'm doing my job well.

at my company, you can lose your bonus if you don't do well on performance evaluation -- so it's better to give yourself stupid goals which are not challenging, so you can give yourself top marks on fulfilling those goals. Then your manager signs it, and might add comments. In five years of being here I've never received any actually useful feedback.

Everything that I listed as a weakness on my 2012 self-evaluation I then listed as a strength on my 2013 self-evaluation. Nobody noticed. Next year I'm gonna flip them back.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: LMNO on August 19, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
My self evaluations are basically (almost) everything I've done that year (or quarter) then my "goal" is something I'M ALREADY WORKING ON, just not completed. So the next evaluation period indicates I've reached my goal, and are already on to the next thing.

It also helps if you're better at the job than you let on.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 04:50:35 PM
Well, that would be in keeping with their current Performance Evaluation tactics, which ask you to rate yourself based on how well you completed milestones you set out for yourself at the previous Evaluation, and which have always changed or been cancelled by people higher on the food chain.
DISCLAIMER: REPLYING TO THIS COMMENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T HATE YOU ON A VERY PERSONAL LEVEL

Our company does that.  "Write your own review".  This is to get you to talk yourself down.  Modesty doesn't get you a raise.

My performance is always "Godlike".  Then my boss gets pissed off and rewrites my review.  Nothing I do or fail to do seems to have any real effect on my raise, though.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: LMNO on August 19, 2013, 05:56:18 PM
QuoteNothing I do or fail to do seems to have any real effect on my raise, though.


This is most often the reality of he situation.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 05:59:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 05:56:18 PM
QuoteNothing I do or fail to do seems to have any real effect on my raise, though.


This is most often the reality of he situation.

This year, I turned mine in a week late, having in the review commended myself for staying on top of paperwork.

:lulz:
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 19, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
I've been through 3 review cycles, and I would agree that they are mostly meaningless. They exist solely to fill file cabinets with records so HR feels useful. The first one I did, I noted that I had excelled at every project and task, and marked the "exceeds goal expectation" space. My boss came back to me and said "If you mark that space, it means you have no room for improvement, which means I can't give you a raise to incentivize you."

I'm still not sure if that makes logical sense, but whatever.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 06:07:53 PM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
I've been through 3 review cycles, and I would agree that they are mostly meaningless. They exist solely to fill file cabinets with records so HR feels useful. The first one I did, I noted that I had excelled at every project and task, and marked the "exceeds goal expectation" space. My boss came back to me and said "If you mark that space, it means you have no room for improvement, which means I can't give you a raise to incentivize you."

I'm still not sure if that makes logical sense, but whatever.

:lulz:

BUT

"Incentivize" <--- :crankey:

WHY THE FUCK IS IT THAT EDUCATED PEOPLE CANNOT SPEAK ENGLISH?
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: LMNO on August 19, 2013, 06:21:27 PM
Which reminds me, I still have to write the BIP 2013 legal boilerplate.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 06:32:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 06:21:27 PM
Which reminds me, I still have to write the BIP 2013 legal boilerplate.

Very yes.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Ben Shapiro on August 19, 2013, 10:02:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 05:59:52 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 05:56:18 PM
QuoteNothing I do or fail to do seems to have any real effect on my raise, though.


This is most often the reality of he situation.

This year, I turned mine in a week late, having in the review commended myself for staying on top of paperwork.

:lulz:

BRAVO SIR BRAVO!
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Pæs on August 20, 2013, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
You're most likely gonna end up with something that we have here,

"Our core value is PRIDE."
•Professionalism
•Real Value to Our Customers
•Integrity
•Demonstrated Financial Strength
•Employer of Choice

What does this really mean, in terms of your job?  Not much.

This is my reading of  the memo, too. I don't see any DANGER SHIT IS ABOUT TO GET FREAKY in there.

We've got signs all over the show saying "Let's regroup and... DO WHAT'S RIGHT." or "Let's regroup and... BE ONE TEAM" with our values in caps. They're just an extension of exercises we had in school to write our class rules together so everyone feels like they've got a more organic ruleset. Let's regroup and... KEEP HANDS, FEET AND OBJECTS TO OURSELVES.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 20, 2013, 12:40:49 AM
Quote from: Pæs on August 20, 2013, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
You're most likely gonna end up with something that we have here,

"Our core value is PRIDE."
•Professionalism
•Real Value to Our Customers
•Integrity
•Demonstrated Financial Strength
•Employer of Choice

What does this really mean, in terms of your job?  Not much.

This is my reading of  the memo, too. I don't see any DANGER SHIT IS ABOUT TO GET FREAKY in there.

We've got signs all over the show saying "Let's regroup and... DO WHAT'S RIGHT." or "Let's regroup and... BE ONE TEAM" with our values in caps. They're just an extension of exercises we had in school to write our class rules together so everyone feels like they've got a more organic ruleset. Let's regroup and... KEEP HANDS, FEET AND OBJECTS TO OURSELVES.

This is inspiring. In this format, my company's motto would be "Let's regroup and... KEEP REGROUPING."
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 20, 2013, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: V3X on August 20, 2013, 12:40:49 AM
Quote from: Pæs on August 20, 2013, 12:33:42 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 19, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
You're most likely gonna end up with something that we have here,

"Our core value is PRIDE."
•Professionalism
•Real Value to Our Customers
•Integrity
•Demonstrated Financial Strength
•Employer of Choice

What does this really mean, in terms of your job?  Not much.

This is my reading of  the memo, too. I don't see any DANGER SHIT IS ABOUT TO GET FREAKY in there.

We've got signs all over the show saying "Let's regroup and... DO WHAT'S RIGHT." or "Let's regroup and... BE ONE TEAM" with our values in caps. They're just an extension of exercises we had in school to write our class rules together so everyone feels like they've got a more organic ruleset. Let's regroup and... KEEP HANDS, FEET AND OBJECTS TO OURSELVES.

This is inspiring. In this format, my company's motto would be "Let's regroup and... KEEP REGROUPING."

:lulz:
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Johnny on August 20, 2013, 02:00:15 AM
Quote from: V3X on August 19, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
So I open up my email this morning, and I see this from the CEO:

QuoteDear Colleagues,
On Thursday and Friday this week, a team of your peers will gather offsite to establish our Values Blueprint. Our goal will be to define the values which [company name redacted] and its employees will embrace, and identify the specific behaviors that will bring those values to life. This is exciting and important work, and essential to completing what we began earlier this year by introducing our new name and our new brand. The essence of a company's brand begins with each and every employee, and having clarity about the values and the behaviors we all should emulate will help reinforce the strength of our brand in the marketplace, as well as significantly enhance our work environment.

Am I right to be slightly creeped out by the strongly "Corpwellian" language in this statement, or am I just seeing something that is now commonplace and safe to ignore?

I know what you mean, but NGO's as protocol always have statements for Mission, Values and Vision... just saying.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 07, 2013, 05:27:25 PM
I stand corrected, RWHN did contribute meaningfully on this topic. Missed it before.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Trivial on September 08, 2013, 02:31:47 AM
My company makes a big deal about how writing up your own "commitments" is important, but when that time of the year comes everyone is handed a standard set that they have to put in, then add a paragraph of goals in another section.  What I don't get is if they've standardized what our commitment have to be, complete with them putting in crap that doesn't apply to our position, why the hell have us put it in in the first place.  They could just have the standard set auto populate based on our job code/level. 

That and our reviews are for one year, but the bonuses don't come out till march of the next year.  Heard they're pushing that back.

This year they actually put in hard numbers that are supposed to be met by the whole team.  Title of this item has the word "Personal" but your commitments have team goals.  Geh.  While the last manager I had was fairly good at removing the fucknuts, there's still a couple there that can blow it for the whole team.  That and some of these things are reliant on other team input so other teams can blow it for our team.  Not that I've noticed these damn things being worth anything.


:argh!:
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on September 08, 2013, 02:44:17 AM
There's an update to the "Values Blueprint" process. I asked the ONE (1) person from my department who was included in this, since there has been no official word on whatever they did. Apparently, it was a 2-day meeting with 50 people in a hotel conference room. The idea was that everyone would have equal input regardless of their department or level. But, of course, it was entirely derailed by one asshole from Sales who insisted that everything anyone else suggested basically boiled down to his idea.

So the Values Blueprint will include the following two primary "Values:"

1. Dedication.
2. Profit.

Nope not kidding.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Trivial on September 08, 2013, 02:57:16 AM
 :lulz:
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Pæs on September 08, 2013, 03:05:01 AM
That's beautiful.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 08, 2013, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: V3X on September 08, 2013, 02:44:17 AM
There's an update to the "Values Blueprint" process. I asked the ONE (1) person from my department who was included in this, since there has been no official word on whatever they did. Apparently, it was a 2-day meeting with 50 people in a hotel conference room. The idea was that everyone would have equal input regardless of their department or level. But, of course, it was entirely derailed by one asshole from Sales who insisted that everything anyone else suggested basically boiled down to his idea.

So the Values Blueprint will include the following two primary "Values:"

1. Dedication.
2. Profit.

Nope not kidding.

Dedication to what? I think you should make a big deal about that.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 08, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: Facemeat on September 08, 2013, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: V3X on September 08, 2013, 02:44:17 AM
There's an update to the "Values Blueprint" process. I asked the ONE (1) person from my department who was included in this, since there has been no official word on whatever they did. Apparently, it was a 2-day meeting with 50 people in a hotel conference room. The idea was that everyone would have equal input regardless of their department or level. But, of course, it was entirely derailed by one asshole from Sales who insisted that everything anyone else suggested basically boiled down to his idea.

So the Values Blueprint will include the following two primary "Values:"

1. Dedication.
2. Profit.

Nope not kidding.

Dedication to what? I think you should make a big deal about that.

To profit, clearly.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Pæs on September 08, 2013, 11:38:23 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on September 08, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: Facemeat on September 08, 2013, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: V3X on September 08, 2013, 02:44:17 AM
There's an update to the "Values Blueprint" process. I asked the ONE (1) person from my department who was included in this, since there has been no official word on whatever they did. Apparently, it was a 2-day meeting with 50 people in a hotel conference room. The idea was that everyone would have equal input regardless of their department or level. But, of course, it was entirely derailed by one asshole from Sales who insisted that everything anyone else suggested basically boiled down to his idea.

So the Values Blueprint will include the following two primary "Values:"

1. Dedication.
2. Profit.

Nope not kidding.

Dedication to what? I think you should make a big deal about that.

To profit, clearly.

That asshat in sales may have just created the first truly honest corporate values statement ever.

Now there will be posters in every room of the building reminding people "PROFIT BEFORE ALL ELSE".
Whistleblowers will be sat down in a room, a harsh light turned on their face and their manager will prod them in the chest and snarl "I am beginning to question your dedication to profit. WE ALL DECIDED TO BE DEDICATED TO PROFIT."
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Bu🤠ns on September 08, 2013, 11:49:56 PM
The whole corporate / value thing, I think, can be useful for guiding decisions....that is, if the company also follows those values.  Now I have my own sense of work ethic that includes ideas like servant leadership, sincerity, honesty...etc. And I found they tend to mesh well with my own corporation's  ideals (despite my corporation just doing it for good PR).

What is cool about your corporation doing this, V3X, is now you can hold them accountable to these values.  Which may or may not be useful from time to time.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on September 09, 2013, 12:00:12 AM
I feel like there's a poster in this somewhere...
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Pæs on September 09, 2013, 12:43:08 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on September 08, 2013, 11:49:56 PM
What is cool about your corporation doing this, V3X, is now you can hold them accountable to these values.  Which may or may not be useful from time to time.
If they ever lose sight of the importance of profit.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Bu🤠ns on September 09, 2013, 01:43:00 AM
Quote from: Pæs on September 09, 2013, 12:43:08 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on September 08, 2013, 11:49:56 PM
What is cool about your corporation doing this, V3X, is now you can hold them accountable to these values.  Which may or may not be useful from time to time.
If they ever lose sight of the importance of profit.

That's only when they need to stretch things.   If they sacrifice one in favor of the other...you might still be able to. Not saying it's good for keeping one's job intact, however.
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Junkenstein on September 09, 2013, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: Pæs on September 09, 2013, 12:43:08 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on September 08, 2013, 11:49:56 PM
What is cool about your corporation doing this, V3X, is now you can hold them accountable to these values.  Which may or may not be useful from time to time.
If they ever lose sight of the importance of profit.

Which, legally, they can't do.

Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on October 02, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
In the interest of providing closure to this topic, I will now post the actual values that were ultimately decided on. Looks like Sales Ass will be disappointed, since "Profit" did not actually end up on the list.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1715856/values.png)

I would comment on this, but I can't bring myself to actually read it. Also, everyone has been given a little deck of cards which we are supposed to fill out and give to someone every time they show their Company Spirit. In light of these values, I think I should give at least three to my boss, who just yesterday issued the following proclamation to everyone in our department:

QuoteWell, the <main product platform> crashed this morning. Happily, the blame is being directed at Engineering and not at us (for a change). For the rest of this week all system-level work is on hold. I really don't want to give Engineering any chance to point the finger at us.

Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 02, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
Company spirit.   :lulz:

That's another way of management saying "Well, we don't actually have a plan..."
Title: Re: ITT, My Company Goes Full Retard*
Post by: Cain on October 02, 2013, 07:54:48 PM
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