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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 23, 2013, 04:18:39 PM

Title: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 23, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
Your incessant psychedelic tripping might not be such a bad idea after all.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130819185302.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily%2Ftop_news%2Ftop_science+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Top+News+--+Top+Science%29

QuoteLSD and Other Psychedelics Not Linked With Mental Health Problems, Analysis Suggests

Aug. 19, 2013 — The use of LSD, magic mushrooms, or peyote does not increase a person's risk of developing mental health problems, according to an analysis of information from more than 130,000 randomly chosen people, including 22,000 people who had used psychedelics at least once.

Researcher Teri Krebs and clinical psychologist Pål-Ørjan Johansen, from the Norwegian University of Science and Technology's (NTNU) Department of Neuroscience, used data from a US national health survey to see what association there was, if any, between psychedelic drug use and mental health problems.

The authors found no link between the use of psychedelic drugs and a range of mental health problems. Instead they found some significant associations between the use of psychedelic drugs and fewer mental health problems.

PLEASE NOTE that this DOES NOT mean I want you to talk to me about your drug trip, because I still don't care. Nobody fucking cares.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: McGrupp on August 23, 2013, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 23, 2013, 04:18:39 PM
Your incessant psychedelic tripping might not be such a bad idea after all.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130819185302.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily%2Ftop_news%2Ftop_science+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Top+News+--+Top+Science%29

QuoteLSD and Other Psychedelics Not Linked With Mental Health Problems, Analysis Suggests

Aug. 19, 2013 — The use of LSD, magic mushrooms, or peyote does not increase a person's risk of developing mental health problems, according to an analysis of information from more than 130,000 randomly chosen people, including 22,000 people who had used psychedelics at least once.

Researcher Teri Krebs and clinical psychologist Pål-Ørjan Johansen, from the Norwegian University of Science and Technology's (NTNU) Department of Neuroscience, used data from a US national health survey to see what association there was, if any, between psychedelic drug use and mental health problems.

The authors found no link between the use of psychedelic drugs and a range of mental health problems. Instead they found some significant associations between the use of psychedelic drugs and fewer mental health problems.


This makes sense. You always hear stories about people wrecking their minds with this stuff, but I always figured that a lot of those stories were just people who already had mental problems. Kinda like how drinking doesn't turn people into a racist it just lets it out.


QuotePLEASE NOTE that this DOES NOT mean I want you to talk to me about your drug trip, because I still don't care. Nobody fucking cares.
:lulz:
.....So there we were in the cornfields and then the wind came up and it was like, man, the corn itself willed it. Then we walked through the parted corn and I could feel time. Then widespread panic started their second set so we hightailed it back to my friend's Mom's Jeep Cherokee but, dude, I know that could of been my chance to be a magikal wizard. Like this other time on the monkey bars behind the elementary school we ended up...........
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on August 23, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
I was heavily into psychedelics for a while when I was younger. I went totally batshit insane. I never saw the two as connected, aside from the fact that a lot of the tricks I used to make myself sane again, I learned when I was tripping.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: LMNO on August 23, 2013, 06:51:24 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 23, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
a lot of the tricks I used to make myself sane again, I learned when I was tripping.

That makes a lot of sense to me.


LMNO
-reformed drug bucket.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 23, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
I have no moral sense at all on LSD.  When I realized this, I never touched the stuff again.

Peyote, different story.   :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 23, 2013, 08:00:57 PM
I will say that I don't think it had any impact on my overall mental health at all.

Except that it made me, I think, a LITTLE more flexible when it comes to my perception of awful shit.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: The Johnny on August 24, 2013, 08:09:05 AM

Weird, theres a very broad perception surrounding psychedelics, some schizophrenia, cognitive and memory decay and a lot of things...
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 08:24:10 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 24, 2013, 08:09:05 AM

Weird, theres a very broad perception surrounding psychedelics, some schizophrenia, cognitive and memory decay and a lot of things...

Like eating lizards.

This is why I gave up drugs.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 24, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
I've eaten mushrooms a few times.

Pure unadulterated fun, never found it especially profound or deep or whatever, just damn good times.

Never ate any lizards, either.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 24, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
I've eaten mushrooms a few times.

Pure unadulterated fun, never found it especially profound or deep or whatever, just damn good times.

Never ate any lizards, either.  :lulz:

It wasn't my fault.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 24, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 24, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
I've eaten mushrooms a few times.

Pure unadulterated fun, never found it especially profound or deep or whatever, just damn good times.

Never ate any lizards, either.  :lulz:

It wasn't my fault.

Well, no. The lizard was asking for it.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 24, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 24, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
I've eaten mushrooms a few times.

Pure unadulterated fun, never found it especially profound or deep or whatever, just damn good times.

Never ate any lizards, either.  :lulz:

It wasn't my fault.

Well, no. The lizard was asking for it.

It was a matter of territory.  I can't just let some 4 legged critter that can grow new bits walk all over me.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 24, 2013, 09:47:09 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 09:05:41 AM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 24, 2013, 09:00:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 24, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: FOCUS GROUP RAGEMONKEY OF HATE HATE HATE on August 24, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
I've eaten mushrooms a few times.

Pure unadulterated fun, never found it especially profound or deep or whatever, just damn good times.

Never ate any lizards, either.  :lulz:

It wasn't my fault.

Well, no. The lizard was asking for it.

It was a matter of territory.  I can't just let some 4 legged critter that can grow new bits walk all over me.

Let one lizard do it, pretty soon you have a hundred, all up in your shit, bobbing their smug little heads.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Salty on August 24, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
There are a lot of people out there who never come into contact with their own mind. They run on so many damned filters they've forgotten how to do anything else. A lot of the folks I've seen well and truly freak out on drugs was because, it seemed, they came into contact with their own head and didnt like it so much.

I had something very much like a breakdown and took paxil for six months after eating some of these fucking seeds. Bad things happened, in my head, for months. I would say I also had a lot of existsing anxiety and depression problems, the reasons whichfore the magical seeds explained to me: I was an asshole.

Bad times. But good for me, in retrospect.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 24, 2013, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: Alty on August 24, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
There are a lot of people out there who never come into contact with their own mind. They run on so many damned filters they've forgotten how to do anything else. A lot of the folks I've seen well and truly freak out on drugs was because, it seemed, they came into contact with their own head and didnt like it so much.

I had something very much like a breakdown and took paxil for six months after eating some of these fucking seeds. Bad things happened, in my head, for months. I would say I also had a lot of existsing anxiety and depression problems, the reasons whichfore the magical seeds explained to me: I was an asshole.

Bad times. But good for me, in retrospect.

Yeah, I guess that if you haven't spent a lot of time really getting to know yourself, having your filters temporarily stripped could really be quite traumatizing.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on August 24, 2013, 11:01:35 PM
I've often wondered how those sort of drugs would affect me now, having gone through a fairly intense introspective portion of my life wherein I got to know the inside of my skull reasonably well. There are definitely still filters and deeply-rooted patterns that could be fucked with, but I'm also aware of that fact going in.

I almost want to try something, just to see if I can deliberately make changes.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on August 25, 2013, 01:34:08 AM
I was always humbled by that stuff, I felt like an overgrown, grotesque toddler-brained thing that would have stupidly gotten itself killed ages ago, only something was letting me slide because it thought I was funny.  :lol:
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on August 25, 2013, 02:44:18 AM
I did lots and lots and LOTS of acid 12-13 years ago. I sometimes want to do it again, but I feel like that's kind of a phase of my life that's over now. It would be like going back to my high school and visiting this year's Senior Prom. I would probably feel some combination of pathetic and creepy. So, no thanks.
Title: Re: Hey you dirty hippies
Post by: East Coast Hustle on August 28, 2013, 08:30:57 AM
I haven't touched LSD in about 15 years, but I've also done more of it than anyone else I've ever known. And I'm fucking FINE.

But seriously, it's never had ANY negative effects for me, long-term or otherwise, and I'd say it gets at least some of the credit for forcing me to tinker with my own wiring until I could shift my rheostat dial over from "narcissistic asshole" to "potential biped".

I still eat some shrooms about once a year or so just to squeegee the inside of my head clean. And because it's a ridiculous amount of fun, of course.