Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 06:34:09 PM

Title: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 06:34:09 PM
One of my employees is a young guy.  His 23 year old girlfriend had a hole in her heart, which was just discovered a couple of weeks ago when she keeled over and almost died.

So Tuesday, she has surgery, and got it fixed.  It was that microsurgery stuff.  3 stitches.  She's better the moment the operation is done.  They held her overnight for observation, but only as a precaution.

It was basically outpatient heart surgery.

So sometimes the future, you know, isn't so bad.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on August 29, 2013, 06:35:08 PM
That's also gotta be scary as shit, almost dying that young.

Glad she's ok.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on August 29, 2013, 06:36:04 PM
I heart modern medicine.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: LMNO on August 29, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: EK WAFFLR on August 29, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
Mothern medicine is actually quite awesome.

My upcoming back surgery is the same principle.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Reginald Ret on August 29, 2013, 06:43:41 PM
Thanks for the smile.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
It's one of the few benefits to constant wars, medical tech improves.



Another couple of world wars and we could all be immortal.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
It's one of the few benefits to constant wars, medical tech improves.



Another couple of world wars and we could all be immortal.

Microsurgery isn't, though, based on battlefield medicine.  It's based on decades of work in the civilian sector, where medical and computational work meets.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 29, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: Surprise Happy Endings Whether You Want Them Or Not on August 29, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
That's awesome!

Isn't it?  Outpatient heart surgery.  No scars, no sawn ribs.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on August 29, 2013, 07:20:00 PM
If you ever need to be reminded how lucky you are to be born in this time, think about how many times you would have died by now if you'd been born 100 years ago.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 29, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: Surprise Happy Endings Whether You Want Them Or Not on August 29, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
That's awesome!

Isn't it?  Outpatient heart surgery.  No scars, no sawn ribs.

Yeah, the advances in medical science are amazing.

Shame they're totally inaccessible to most of the population!
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
It's one of the few benefits to constant wars, medical tech improves.



Another couple of world wars and we could all be immortal.

Microsurgery isn't, though, based on battlefield medicine.  It's based on decades of work in the civilian sector, where medical and computational work meets.

This is a valid point. To be fair, I know little about the history of microsurgery and I've assumed there was a military interest/application with shrapnel/mines and various other potential hazards. Probably out of idiot optimism hoping that some of the defence budgets go to something productive (and positive).
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: Surprise Happy Endings Whether You Want Them Or Not on August 29, 2013, 07:20:50 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: Surprise Happy Endings Whether You Want Them Or Not on August 29, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
That's awesome!

Isn't it?  Outpatient heart surgery.  No scars, no sawn ribs.

Yeah, the advances in medical science are amazing.

Shame they're totally inaccessible to most of the population!

His GF is on access (public health care).

For some reason, this fucked up state manages to feed everyone and treat them (at least for serious shit), even as they fuck everyone in the ass in every other conceivable manner.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:21:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:15:27 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
It's one of the few benefits to constant wars, medical tech improves.



Another couple of world wars and we could all be immortal.

Microsurgery isn't, though, based on battlefield medicine.  It's based on decades of work in the civilian sector, where medical and computational work meets.

This is a valid point. To be fair, I know little about the history of microsurgery and I've assumed there was a military interest/application with shrapnel/mines and various other potential hazards. Probably out of idiot optimism hoping that some of the defence budgets go to something productive (and positive).

No, military medicine works like this:

1.  Stabilize the patient.
2.  Whack off any limbs that have gone South of cheese (not actually necessary anymore, with maggot therapy, etc).
3.  Establish whether relatively simple medical care can speedily return the soldier to duty.
4.  If so, do so.
5.  If not, discharge them medically, and send them to the VA to die of staph.

So, trauma medicine is where the military excels.  Not the fancy stuff.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
That makes sense. I think I'm having an idiot hour.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
That makes sense. I think I'm having an idiot hour.

I've been having an idiot 8 YEARS.
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: tarod on August 29, 2013, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
That makes sense. I think I'm having an idiot hour.

I've been having an idiot 8 YEARS.

I know correlation doesn't equal causation, but how long have you been living in Tuscon?
Title: Re: Just a thought
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: tarod on August 29, 2013, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 29, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on August 29, 2013, 07:33:47 PM
That makes sense. I think I'm having an idiot hour.

I've been having an idiot 8 YEARS.

I know correlation doesn't equal causation, but how long have you been living in Tuscon?

8 FUCKING YEARS.