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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 05, 2013, 05:49:51 PM

Title: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 05, 2013, 05:49:51 PM
I am about to start the general biology series (FINALLY! It's been hilarious being a "biology major" who hasn't taken any biology :lol:) and I am wondering if I should buy all the companion books:

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It is about $90 of optional books, and I figured you would know whether it's worth it.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Kai on September 05, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
When I saw the first line I thought, there's /one/ book that should be mandatory for every biologist to own. And sure enough, it's the last one. Get the root words dictionary. I still have mine, still use it. If you're a biologist and don't know Latin or Greek, this is the next best thing. It's cheap too, a thin little volume.

The rest of them I don't know. The first one might be worth a perusal. I'd say check it out of the library and see if it's worth it first. The photographic atlas is going to be one half pictures of whole organisms, one half dissections. You can find a great deal of this stuff online with a simple Google Image search, so I'm not sure it's necessary. I kind of /want/ that biology coloring book, but if you're buying the photographic atlas already then I'm not sure why you would need it.

Summary: Get the root words dictionary. Check out the Scientific English book and see if you want it. The other two all depend on how much you need supplementary pictures and illustrations to figure things out.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 05, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 05, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
When I saw the first line I thought, there's /one/ book that should be mandatory for every biologist to own. And sure enough, it's the last one. Get the root words dictionary. I still have mine, still use it. If you're a biologist and don't know Latin or Greek, this is the next best thing. It's cheap too, a thin little volume.

The rest of them I don't know. The first one might be worth a perusal. I'd say check it out of the library and see if it's worth it first. The photographic atlas is going to be one half pictures of whole organisms, one half dissections. You can find a great deal of this stuff online with a simple Google Image search, so I'm not sure it's necessary. I kind of /want/ that biology coloring book, but if you're buying the photographic atlas already then I'm not sure why you would need it.

Summary: Get the root words dictionary. Check out the Scientific English book and see if you want it. The other two all depend on how much you need supplementary pictures and illustrations to figure things out.

Awesome, thank you! I knew you would steer me right.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Forsooth on September 05, 2013, 08:43:59 PM
the atlas thing was only really useful during actual dissections; two of my lab instructors specifically said to not buy it since the had one that stayed in the lab

the rootwords one will be good if you aren't fluent in Latin roots for english
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 05, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
BOUGHT.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Jez on September 05, 2013, 11:18:27 PM
The root words dictionary looks delicious.  I love words.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 06, 2013, 03:06:02 AM
Uh.... COLORING BOOK!! Yes?
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 06, 2013, 03:20:22 AM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on September 06, 2013, 03:06:02 AM
Uh.... COLORING BOOK!! Yes?

It's like $15 though!
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 06, 2013, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 05, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
When I saw the first line I thought, there's /one/ book that should be mandatory for every biologist to own. And sure enough, it's the last one. Get the root words dictionary. I still have mine, still use it. If you're a biologist and don't know Latin or Greek, this is the next best thing. It's cheap too, a thin little volume.

The rest of them I don't know. The first one might be worth a perusal. I'd say check it out of the library and see if it's worth it first. The photographic atlas is going to be one half pictures of whole organisms, one half dissections. You can find a great deal of this stuff online with a simple Google Image search, so I'm not sure it's necessary. I kind of /want/ that biology coloring book, but if you're buying the photographic atlas already then I'm not sure why you would need it.

Summary: Get the root words dictionary. Check out the Scientific English book and see if you want it. The other two all depend on how much you need supplementary pictures and illustrations to figure things out.

How Latin is is compared to Greek?
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Kai on September 06, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: Twigel on September 06, 2013, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 05, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
When I saw the first line I thought, there's /one/ book that should be mandatory for every biologist to own. And sure enough, it's the last one. Get the root words dictionary. I still have mine, still use it. If you're a biologist and don't know Latin or Greek, this is the next best thing. It's cheap too, a thin little volume.

The rest of them I don't know. The first one might be worth a perusal. I'd say check it out of the library and see if it's worth it first. The photographic atlas is going to be one half pictures of whole organisms, one half dissections. You can find a great deal of this stuff online with a simple Google Image search, so I'm not sure it's necessary. I kind of /want/ that biology coloring book, but if you're buying the photographic atlas already then I'm not sure why you would need it.

Summary: Get the root words dictionary. Check out the Scientific English book and see if you want it. The other two all depend on how much you need supplementary pictures and illustrations to figure things out.

How Latin is is compared to Greek?

I don't know what you're asking. Latin and Greek have been the standard languages of knowledge for thousands of years, so many things in biology have been named with them. If you have a term, you can often break down it's meaning by finding the Latin or Greek root words. I wouldn't, for example, know that the genus name Cheumatopsyche means "pouring-water butterfly" without that book. Cheumos and psyche.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on September 06, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 06, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: Twigel on September 06, 2013, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 05, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
When I saw the first line I thought, there's /one/ book that should be mandatory for every biologist to own. And sure enough, it's the last one. Get the root words dictionary. I still have mine, still use it. If you're a biologist and don't know Latin or Greek, this is the next best thing. It's cheap too, a thin little volume.

The rest of them I don't know. The first one might be worth a perusal. I'd say check it out of the library and see if it's worth it first. The photographic atlas is going to be one half pictures of whole organisms, one half dissections. You can find a great deal of this stuff online with a simple Google Image search, so I'm not sure it's necessary. I kind of /want/ that biology coloring book, but if you're buying the photographic atlas already then I'm not sure why you would need it.

Summary: Get the root words dictionary. Check out the Scientific English book and see if you want it. The other two all depend on how much you need supplementary pictures and illustrations to figure things out.

How Latin is is compared to Greek?

I don't know what you're asking. Latin and Greek have been the standard languages of knowledge for thousands of years, so many things in biology have been named with them. If you have a term, you can often break down it's meaning by finding the Latin or Greek root words. I wouldn't, for example, know that the genus name Cheumatopsyche means "pouring-water butterfly" without that book. Cheumos and psyche.

Percentages, like. But that Cheumatospsyche example made me think, doesn't matter, because that's a crazy ass word.
Title: Re: KAI, I NEED HELP!
Post by: Kai on September 06, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: Twigel on September 06, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 06, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
Quote from: Twigel on September 06, 2013, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: Kai on September 05, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
When I saw the first line I thought, there's /one/ book that should be mandatory for every biologist to own. And sure enough, it's the last one. Get the root words dictionary. I still have mine, still use it. If you're a biologist and don't know Latin or Greek, this is the next best thing. It's cheap too, a thin little volume.

The rest of them I don't know. The first one might be worth a perusal. I'd say check it out of the library and see if it's worth it first. The photographic atlas is going to be one half pictures of whole organisms, one half dissections. You can find a great deal of this stuff online with a simple Google Image search, so I'm not sure it's necessary. I kind of /want/ that biology coloring book, but if you're buying the photographic atlas already then I'm not sure why you would need it.

Summary: Get the root words dictionary. Check out the Scientific English book and see if you want it. The other two all depend on how much you need supplementary pictures and illustrations to figure things out.

How Latin is is compared to Greek?

I don't know what you're asking. Latin and Greek have been the standard languages of knowledge for thousands of years, so many things in biology have been named with them. If you have a term, you can often break down it's meaning by finding the Latin or Greek root words. I wouldn't, for example, know that the genus name Cheumatopsyche means "pouring-water butterfly" without that book. Cheumos and psyche.

Percentages, like. But that Cheumatospsyche example made me think, doesn't matter, because that's a crazy ass word.

Latin is very different than Greek. But it's not the syntax that's important, it's the vocabulary. The language of Biology is largely composed of loan words in different combinations, most of those from Latin and Greek. Like you said, it doesn't matter, because it's not Greek or Latin, it's Biology.