You know WHY the drug threads and the anarchy threads and copyright and MAHDJIGQUE and now that fascism thread all go fucking haywire out to 300 pages with everyone saying the SAME THING, OVER AND OVER? You know why?
Because WE are stuck in the mental trap of HAVING TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT.
Whether through SGitR syndrome or because we feel the need to SHOW THEM A THING OR TWO, we are COMPELLED to TELL THEM WHAT. Despite years of evidence showing that it DOES NO GOOD.
And we keep doing it.
So much for "the learning man".
It also occurs to me that there is a CURE for this syndrome, brothers and sisters! A MIRACLE CURE! And it's SO EASY! All you have to do is...
SHUT UP
That's right! Stop trying to show DUMBASSES the One True Way™ and stop trying to make the willfully ignorant SEE YOUR POINT. Just STOP. You can't help. You can't make them better. They have dug their heels in right up to their fucking hips and they are trying to tell YOU what. It's a pack of howler monkeys all screeching past each other, each monkey convinced HE/SHE is RIGHT and the OTHER GUY is WRONG.
So there you have it. Shut up, and watch them march off the cliff for your amusement.
That's all there is to it.
Shut up.
Or Kill Me.
:mittens:
Stand up for what's right! Even if it's wrong!
I know this guy, this UFO guy
-you know the type-
he posts this stuff on facebook, and I'm always tempted to go "You know what,dude..."
but why? why would I disabuse him of that?
that's his trip
it's not hurting anybody
it's actually pretty amusing to read, and not in a "ha ha look at this deluded spag" way, more in the "I am fascinated with what it must be like to be inside your head" way. Let's not take a dump there, let's enjoy the view.
CANCEL ALL MY CALLS AND MEETINGS AND FUNERALS AND THINGS
somebody is wrong on the internet
it's hilarious because it's true -- I should just write down my 9 opinions so I can copy&paste them at every opportunity.
I'm with you Dirty Old Uncle Roger
I am taking the pledge against drug threads, starting now
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The problem with fascism, is that they'll gladly force you to march off the cliff with them, if you give them the chance. I'm in favor of arguing with them, not to try and convince them, but rather to show that most sane people don't want to listen to their shit, and for any others who might be willing to listen to them see their ideology taken to their logical conclusion.
You're cool with beating down a fascist because they are a virus. You are acting as a part of the immune system. That makes you an active part of the immune system where you attack the virus.
I'm the peaceful sort, so verbally arguing it is my way of alerting the cells that there's a nasty virus in the system, do not accept bad RNA.
But otherwise you are correct. Well, perhaps not. I was a magically thinking Pagan when I arrived here. Now I'm Jewish, because I realized that:
a) Magic is the slacker's way of attempting to get results, and bad results at that
b) Remaining Pagan isn't walking a path. It's stopping on the path and getting too absorbed in the scenery from that vantage point.
1. I'm not saying pledge. In fact, if that sort of shit just GETS YOU OFF, jump right in. Just don't get any on the rest of us, and don't expect to fix anything.
2. Twid: Fascists are for stomping on, not arguing with. Nihil isn't going to convert anyone here or anywhere else, because he's a 30 year old sock fucker screeching from his mommy's basement.
Quote from: Twigel on September 23, 2013, 07:53:55 PM
You're cool with beating down a fascist because they are a virus. You are acting as a part of the immune system. That makes you an active part of the immune system where you attack the virus.
I'm cool with beating them down, because that's what they have planned for everyone else.
I'm just getting them FIRST.
If they were content to follow some sort of civilized political process as an END instead of a TACTIC, I'd leave them alone the same way I leave all other political adherents alone.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
1. I'm not saying pledge. In fact, if that sort of shit just GETS YOU OFF, jump right in. Just don't get any on the rest of us, and don't expect to fix anything.
I'll go on record saying I hate THOSE THREADS. I'm done with them. They're not fun, they're just an exercise. It is exceptionally rare that they contain new information. It is rare that anybody's opinion changes.
But people love 'em! Otherwise we wouldn't have new ones every week, each of which growing to the 15+ page mark. The sad thing, to me, is that people express boredom/disgust with them, but will still make post after post, keeping them alive.
Quote from: Cramulus on September 23, 2013, 08:18:24 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 23, 2013, 07:56:08 PM
1. I'm not saying pledge. In fact, if that sort of shit just GETS YOU OFF, jump right in. Just don't get any on the rest of us, and don't expect to fix anything.
I'll go on record saying I hate THOSE THREADS. I'm done with them. They're not fun, they're just an exercise. It is exceptionally rare that they contain new information. It is rare that anybody's opinion changes.
But people love 'em! Otherwise we wouldn't have new ones every week, each of which growing to the 15+ page mark. The sad thing, to me, is that people express boredom/disgust with them, but will still make post after post, keeping them alive.
I'm gonna say that most people don't live them. Most people are simply compelled to TELL PEOPLE WHAT. And it doesn't matter what side you're on.
Also, I make an exception for the privilege threads, because I learned a bunch of shit from them and changed my mind (my old mind wasn't big enough). But not everyone will make that exception, because THEY didn't get what I got out of it, either because they ALREADY KNEW or they JUST DIDN'T GET IT.
So, you know, RESULTS MAY VARY.
Exhibit A: A drug thread that has been dead for days and actually had agreement between Nigel and myself, but someone just HAD to make sure they got what-for in.
It's an addiction.
Quote from: Be Kind, Please RWHNd on September 23, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
Exhibit A: A drug thread that has been dead for days and actually had agreement between Nigel and myself, but someone just HAD to make sure they got what-for in.
It's an addiction.
It's a historical trend though, and worth mentioning.
I am glad however, that I think we're moving into a new drug-thread free era. Or something equivalent.
I would like to say that I enjoy drug threads. I don't feel guilty about it. I can quit any time but I choose not to. I know that it isn't going to lead to enlightenment, or anyone really changing their mind, or seeing the world in a new way, but they're fun. They hit my pleasure buttons and people make all sorts of fun images and my avatar even got morphed onto a soccer player who was sticking his hand up another soccer player's behind and RWHN's head got put on that, and that made me feel good. So I enjoy drug threads and I don't regret my participation in them.
I'm also highly amused by the people who participate in them and also complain about them, which has made Roger call me a sociopath in the past, but it's still funny.
Quote from: Pergamos on September 24, 2013, 02:25:54 AM
I would like to say that I enjoy drug threads. I don't feel guilty about it. I can quit any time but I choose not to. I know that it isn't going to lead to enlightenment, or anyone really changing their mind, or seeing the world in a new way, but they're fun. They hit my pleasure buttons and people make all sorts of fun images and my avatar even got morphed onto a soccer player who was sticking his hand up another soccer player's behind and RWHN's head got put on that, and that made me feel good. So I enjoy drug threads and I don't regret my participation in them.
I'm also highly amused by the people who participate in them and also complain about them, which has made Roger call me a sociopath in the past, but it's still funny.
I haven't been up on those particular threads. I am satisfied that RWHN and I are at peace, and if he says that he and Nigel have come to common ground, all the better. I don't hate the dude. Matter of fact, I like him, and did like him even when he and I were butting heads. I don't like butting heads with him. Both of us are comfortable in our positions and are only giving each other headaches. I think he's wrong on that one thing, he thinks I'm wrong on the same. Cool, I made some sandwiches, want one? I'll probably still debate him here or there, even though I think it's pointless. I just want the bastard, his soon to be missus and his bairns to be happy.
This isn't about expired cattle meat. This is about rehashing old tired topics.
In otherwords, you can hate on RWHN all you want, but I'm not going to help you, and if you're being a dick about it and I see it, I'm going to tell you to stop being a dick to him. As far as I'm concerned, it's a dead issue.
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 03:26:12 AM
In otherwords, you can hate on RWHN all you want, but I'm not going to help you, and if you're being a dick about it and I see it, I'm going to tell you to stop being a dick to him. As far as I'm concerned, it's a dead issue.
I have no problem with RWHN, without him the drug threads would be no fun. I got a kick out of being featured in a picture someone made.
Quote from: Pergamos on September 24, 2013, 03:31:32 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 03:26:12 AM
In otherwords, you can hate on RWHN all you want, but I'm not going to help you, and if you're being a dick about it and I see it, I'm going to tell you to stop being a dick to him. As far as I'm concerned, it's a dead issue.
I have no problem with RWHN, without him the drug threads would be no fun. I got a kick out of being featured in a picture someone made.
:roll:
Glad you liked your 15 minutes, Pergammos. Problem is it was at the expense of another. You can sit on your laurels if you want, or, you know, inflate your ego without RWHN being your punching bag.
This isn't an attack, mind you, just pointing out what you sound like.
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
Glad you liked your 15 minutes, Pergammos. Problem is it was at the expense of another. You can sit on your laurels if you want, or, you know, inflate your ego without RWHN being your punching bag.
This isn't an attack, mind you, just pointing out what you sound like.
Well, in that case I want to make it clear that I did not create the image. Nor, for that matter, did I repost it. I just enjoyed being featured in it.
Missing the point, ITT.
Quote from: Pergamos on September 24, 2013, 04:42:44 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
Glad you liked your 15 minutes, Pergammos. Problem is it was at the expense of another. You can sit on your laurels if you want, or, you know, inflate your ego without RWHN being your punching bag.
This isn't an attack, mind you, just pointing out what you sound like.
Well, in that case I want to make it clear that I did not create the image. Nor, for that matter, did I repost it. I just enjoyed being featured in it.
Fair enough.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 24, 2013, 05:20:15 AM
Missing the point, ITT.
Fair enough.
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:22:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on September 24, 2013, 04:42:44 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
Glad you liked your 15 minutes, Pergammos. Problem is it was at the expense of another. You can sit on your laurels if you want, or, you know, inflate your ego without RWHN being your punching bag.
This isn't an attack, mind you, just pointing out what you sound like.
Well, in that case I want to make it clear that I did not create the image. Nor, for that matter, did I repost it. I just enjoyed being featured in it.
Fair enough.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 24, 2013, 05:20:15 AM
Missing the point, ITT.
Fair enough.
Wasn't talking to you, there. Was talking to the freak.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 24, 2013, 05:25:49 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 05:22:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on September 24, 2013, 04:42:44 AM
Quote from: Twigel on September 24, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
Glad you liked your 15 minutes, Pergammos. Problem is it was at the expense of another. You can sit on your laurels if you want, or, you know, inflate your ego without RWHN being your punching bag.
This isn't an attack, mind you, just pointing out what you sound like.
Well, in that case I want to make it clear that I did not create the image. Nor, for that matter, did I repost it. I just enjoyed being featured in it.
Fair enough.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 24, 2013, 05:20:15 AM
Missing the point, ITT.
Fair enough.
Wasn't talking to you, there. Was talking to the freak.
Ok, cool.
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There is one other way to handle drug threads that i am going to give a try. Thread-drift! Just consistently talk about other stuff.
Quote from: :regret: on September 24, 2013, 09:08:25 AM
There is one other way to handle drug threads that i am going to give a try. Thread-drift! Just consistently talk about other stuff.
I think the key is whether it works right off the bat. If everyone joins in, relieved, then you have been constructive. If it simply gets overwhelmed by more ZOMG DORGS posts, then people aren't ready, let it go.
Quote from: Cain on September 24, 2013, 08:20:25 AM
I have sort of, not very well (but better than some) being following this advice for a while now.
Quite frankly, my time is too valuable to go around correcting every idiot on the internet, especially if they've shown they will not accept evidence that does not conform to their preconcieved worldview.
Well, so be it. I'm not paid to correct people on the internet, and I don't get any feelings of satisfaction from doing so. If they want to be a dumbass about their cause or ideology, they should feel free to go wild. I'll grab some popcorn and enjoy the inevitable point where reality meets theory, but I don't feel compelled to lift a finger in the meantime.
Besides, I'm still figuring out what is what. I have a fairly good handle on what is not, but the rest...well, that takes time. Reading time, thinking time...lots of time. So I'm more interested in doing that than correcting others in the first place.
This.