Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 05, 2013, 11:17:00 PM

Title: You might not need to know this
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 05, 2013, 11:17:00 PM
... but if you do, it could be invaluable.

QuoteAt the beginning of April this year, I was tapped by the Huffington Post Live team for a discussion on narcissism. I happily agreed to appear, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that narcissism happens to be one of my favorite subjects. Early in my training, I had the pleasure of working with one of the foremost authorities on narcissism in our field, and in part because of that experience, I went on to work with quite a few clients who'd been diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. That's where I learned that the formal diagnostic label hardly does justice to the richness and complexity of this condition. The most glaring problems are easy to spot — the apparent absence of even a shred of empathy, the grandiose plans and posturing, the rage at being called out on the slightest of imperfections or normal human missteps — but if you get too hung up on the obvious traits, you can easily miss the subtle (and often more common) features that allow a narcissist to sneak into your life and wreak havoc.
Just ask Tina Swithin, who went on to write a book about surviving her experience with a man who clearly meets criteria for NPD (and very likely, a few other diagnoses). To her lovestruck eyes, her soon-to-be husband seemed more like a prince charming than the callous, deceitful spendthrift he later proved to be. Looking back, Tina explains, there were signs of trouble from the start, but they were far from obvious at the time. In real life, the most dangerous villains rarely advertise their malevolence.
So what are we to do? How do we protect ourselves from narcissists if they're so adept at slipping into our lives unnoticed?
I shared some of my answers to that question in our conversation, and I encourage you to watch it. But there were a few I didn't get to, and others I didn't have the chance to describe in depth, so I thought I'd take the opportunity to revisit the topic here. Tread carefully if you catch a glimpse of any of these subtler signs:
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/5-early-warning-signs-youre-with-a-narcissist/
Title: Re: You might not need to know this
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 05, 2013, 11:21:36 PM
One last one, not on the list, is "pushes for rapid commitment". It may all be part of a whirlwind courtship, but it's a hallmark of narcissists to rush precipiciously into relationships, carrying you with them.
Title: Re: You might not need to know this
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 05, 2013, 11:21:36 PM
One last one, not on the list, is "pushes for rapid commitment". It may all be part of a whirlwind courtship, but it's a hallmark of narcissists to rush precipiciously into relationships, carrying you with them.

Whoopsie.   :oops:

"That was fun!  Let's get married!"
- TGRR, way too often.
Title: Re: You might not need to know this
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 06, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 06, 2013, 04:25:33 AM
Quote from: Not Your Nigel on October 05, 2013, 11:21:36 PM
One last one, not on the list, is "pushes for rapid commitment". It may all be part of a whirlwind courtship, but it's a hallmark of narcissists to rush precipiciously into relationships, carrying you with them.

Whoopsie.   :oops:

"That was fun!  Let's get married!"
- TGRR, way too often.

:lulz: I don't think that all by itself, that's necessarily a sign of narcissism. It can also be a sign of unmoderated impetuousness.
Title: Re: You might not need to know this
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on October 06, 2013, 07:33:57 AM
They edit, too. Stupid little things that don't seem worth fighting over (and there WILL be a HUGE, LONG, UGLY ASS fight if you try to correct them). If you named the dog, THEY named it and that's the story forever after, and it seems meaningless, but it isn't. The meaning is "run like a scalded cat".
Title: Re: You might not need to know this
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 06, 2013, 07:52:20 AM
Quote from: stelz on October 06, 2013, 07:33:57 AM
They edit, too. Stupid little things that don't seem worth fighting over (and there WILL be a HUGE, LONG, UGLY ASS fight if you try to correct them). If you named the dog, THEY named it and that's the story forever after, and it seems meaningless, but it isn't. The meaning is "run like a scalded cat".

Oh god yes. That's a slightly harder to pick up on sign.