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Principia Discordia => Two vast and trunkless legs of stone => Topic started by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 01:25:09 AM

Title: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 01:25:09 AM
So, I'm at a bar right now... Why I'm posting at a bar will soon become evident... There is a one man band on stage right now and he is pretty damn bad. I mean, don't get me wrong, he can "technically" play the instruments he's playing (all at once, mind you) but they don't sound "good".

Now here's the thing... I sort of love him. I don't know what it is. I'm not ironically liking him because he's bad, though it may sound like that.

There's a gusto to being able to get up in front of a crowd and show your naked ass, but it's not that either. Or not exactly. It's something about how goddam human it all is... Also, keep in mind, yes, I've been drinking, but I also don't think it's THAT. I've felt this way before stone sober.

I realize simply saying "the music is bad" doesn't describe it much, but this thread isn't as much about how awful he is, so much as me soliciting opinions of why I sort of love him and hate him at the  same moment.

If none of this made sense, I apologize. Happy Friday night, folks!
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 01:33:25 AM
It could be that he's able to do all of that at once.

And I think I can see a bit of the human angle too. I can see it being an unintentional metaphor for life- taking on a bunch of things at once, technically doing it right, but still having it come across as bad, and still managing to get through the set despite it all. It might not be pretty, but he's doing it goddammit.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 01:47:18 AM
I've seen something similar-- for me, it's that this guy both wants you to hear and approve him, and at the same time, he doesn't give a fuck if you don't care.

In short, he has approached velocity=wall. And no matter what it sounds like, it's awesome.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 02:16:27 AM
Yes, I think that's it. And by that I mean both of your responses.

He just came by and gave me his card and thanked me for listening. I almost started bawling.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 26, 2013, 02:23:06 AM
I dig that. I have had the same feeling when someone was earnestly doing something in public very very badly. Like, terrible art. Terrible art that someone really cared about and put a lot of work into.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 02:35:27 AM
I would take that shit every day and all day over things like Kim Kardashian. At least this person has passion.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 02:40:05 AM
I love people like that guy, and people like you.

Yay.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 03:06:45 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 02:40:05 AM
I love people like that guy, and people like you.

Yay.

This.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 03:09:46 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 02:16:27 AM
Yes, I think that's it. And by that I mean both of your responses.

He just came by and gave me his card and thanked me for listening. I almost started bawling.

I've taken cards from musicians I didn't like on an artistic level.

I know that feeling. You watch them, you kinda chuckle at them a little but when they pack all their gear up and they get a beer you're like, I want to buy that guy a beer because he's unexplainably awesome.

A certain.... Hmmmm. LMNO might know who I'm talking about. I'll PM him.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 03:11:24 AM
Yeah. You mean me

Y'dingus.

Just kidding. You love me.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 03:20:56 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 03:11:24 AM
Yeah. You mean me

Y'dingus.

Just kidding. You love me.

Of course I do. I see you guys when we're not on the same bill together. I'll admit, Frost Heaves was an acquired taste, but when we met I was still all metal all the time. Now I see you guys because I genuinely love your shit.

That said, Anarchangel is playing in January. Finally.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I need to come visit Boston.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 03:30:47 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I need to come visit Boston.

Yes you do.

Give us enough warning and we might be able to pull together a Frost Heaves/Daniel Ouellette/Anarchangel trifecta.

Even if you don't get to see Frost Heaves or Anarchangel, you need to see Daniel perform.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 03:45:28 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I need to come visit Boston.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 03:57:21 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 03:45:28 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I need to come visit Boston.

LMNO and Twid on the same bill in Somerville on Saturday 2 November, aka, Frost Heaves CD release.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 03:59:11 AM
And it's the day after my birthday, you fuckers.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 04:00:15 AM
You don't want to make L a Big Sad Cowboy, do ya?
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 04:01:35 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 03:57:21 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 03:45:28 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I need to come visit Boston.

LMNO and Twid on the same bill in Somerville on Saturday 2 November, aka, Frost Heaves CD release.

Halloween party that night and a 5k to run the next morning.  :sad:
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 04:03:30 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 04:01:35 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 03:57:21 AM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 03:45:28 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 03:28:12 AM
I need to come visit Boston.

LMNO and Twid on the same bill in Somerville on Saturday 2 November, aka, Frost Heaves CD release.

Halloween party that night and a 5k to run the next morning.  :sad:


Quote from: Doktor Blight on December 22, 2012, 01:06:36 AM
EoC, you are the bane of my existence.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 04:05:52 AM
HALLOWEEN WILL BE OVER FOR TWO DAYS, FUCKER. EVEN DIOS DE LA MUERTOS WILL BE OVER BY THAT POINT.


FUCKER.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 04:21:16 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 04:05:52 AM
HALLOWEEN WILL BE OVER FOR TWO DAYS, FUCKER. EVEN DIOS DE LA MUERTOS WILL BE OVER BY THAT POINT.


FUCKER.

FINE THEN IT'S NOT A HALLOWEEN PARTY IT'S A PARTY WHERE I DRESS UP LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT AND YELL AT A BUNCH OF MY FRIENDS

So you know, Saturday.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 04:33:45 AM
Sadly I recently got laid off, so it won't be any time soon. But some day, fuckers. Some day.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 05:15:40 AM
Oh, Saturday. Right.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:17:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 04:33:45 AM
Sadly I recently got laid off, so it won't be any time soon. But some day, fuckers. Some day.

WHAT?   :eek:

That's awful.   :sad:
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 05:17:47 AM
Every time I see a boil airbrushed from a woman's asshole, I'll always think of you, Hoops.





Srsly, I hope you can transition quickly.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 05:24:49 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 04:33:45 AM
Sadly I recently got laid off, so it won't be any time soon. But some day, fuckers. Some day.

That sucks boss.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 05:17:47 AM
Every time I see a boil airbrushed from a woman's asshole, I'll always think of you, Hoops.





Srsly, I hope you can transition quickly.

Whhh....

Uh...

What?

Are you more Friday than me?
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
Hoops, on the other end of that, it's been my intent for a while to visit Toronto.

And you know, I still have a soft spot for Rhiz too (since she and I came on around the same time), and would like to meet her an the missus.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:28:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
Hoops, on the other end of that, it's been my intent for a while to visit Toronto.

And you know, I still have a soft spot for Rhiz too (since she and I came on around the same time), and would like to meet her an the missus.

I miss Rhiz.

And she's a real sweetheart in person.  Top notch.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: LMNO on October 26, 2013, 05:32:11 AM
Dude, I don't mean to be cocky but I am SURE I'm more Friday than you on a regular basis.



LMNO
- probably needs to go to a meeting someday
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:36:18 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 03:59:11 AM
And it's the day after my birthday, you fuckers.

Which is the day after mine.

And I will be 2.2% as old as Jesus. 

Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 05:37:03 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 05:32:11 AM
Dude, I don't mean to be cocky but I am SURE I'm more Friday than you on a regular basis.



LMNO
- probably needs to go to a meeting someday

You call this an alcohol abuse, do ya?

Blight,
unilaterally declaring the best/worst war ever
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 05:38:09 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:28:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
Hoops, on the other end of that, it's been my intent for a while to visit Toronto.

And you know, I still have a soft spot for Rhiz too (since she and I came on around the same time), and would like to meet her an the missus.

I miss Rhiz.

And she's a real sweetheart in person.  Top notch.

I talk to her rarely on gmail, but I really, really took to her. She's awesome as hell.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:42:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 05:38:09 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:28:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
Hoops, on the other end of that, it's been my intent for a while to visit Toronto.

And you know, I still have a soft spot for Rhiz too (since she and I came on around the same time), and would like to meet her an the missus.

I miss Rhiz.

And she's a real sweetheart in person.  Top notch.

I talk to her rarely on gmail, but I really, really took to her. She's awesome as hell.

Well, get her back here.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 06:18:41 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:17:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 04:33:45 AM
Sadly I recently got laid off, so it won't be any time soon. But some day, fuckers. Some day.

WHAT?   :eek:

That's awful.   :sad:

Yeah, turns out online photo porn is dwindling. To be honest I thought it was already dead when I got the job 5 years ago, so I guess I was always living on borrowed time.

And thanks, LMNO... Enrico told me the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: hooplala on October 26, 2013, 06:22:45 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on October 26, 2013, 05:32:11 AM
Dude, I don't mean to be cocky but I am SURE I'm more Friday than you on a regular basis.



LMNO
- probably needs to go to a meeting someday

My favorite Lou Reed quote (or possibly quote in general) is from the liner notes of Metal Machine Music:

"My week beats your year."
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Eater of Clowns on October 26, 2013, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 06:18:41 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:17:21 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on October 26, 2013, 04:33:45 AM
Sadly I recently got laid off, so it won't be any time soon. But some day, fuckers. Some day.

WHAT?   :eek:

That's awful.   :sad:

Yeah, turns out online photo porn is dwindling. To be honest I thought it was already dead when I got the job 5 years ago, so I guess I was always living on borrowed time.

And thanks, LMNO... Enrico told me the exact same thing.

Time was you could RELY on the porn industry.

I just don't know when the hell I'm living, anymore.  :cry:
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on October 26, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:42:56 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 05:38:09 AM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on October 26, 2013, 05:28:17 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 05:27:21 AM
Hoops, on the other end of that, it's been my intent for a while to visit Toronto.

And you know, I still have a soft spot for Rhiz too (since she and I came on around the same time), and would like to meet her an the missus.

I miss Rhiz.

And she's a real sweetheart in person.  Top notch.

I talk to her rarely on gmail, but I really, really took to her. She's awesome as hell.

Well, get her back here.

Emailed
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 27, 2013, 05:46:20 PM
I could do the 2nd! Probably! Also birfdays are that week!
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: Hoser McRhizzy on October 28, 2013, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Emailed

Summoned.

Hoops was right, by the way.  I was in fact deep, deep inside Rob Ford's belly.  Working within and against the system.  He wasn't drunk.  That was me.

[schmaltzy] And I like you both, too. Often want to write or reply to something, I'm just not much of a web-talker and its been a shit year. I'll try to post more often. [/schmaltzy]
Title: Re: Help Hoopla Define His Feelings
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on October 28, 2013, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: Hoser McRhizzy on October 28, 2013, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 26, 2013, 10:14:15 PM
Emailed

Summoned.

Hoops was right, by the way.  I was in fact deep, deep inside Rob Ford's belly.  Working within and against the system.  He wasn't drunk.  That was me.

[schmaltzy] And I like you both, too. Often want to write or reply to something, I'm just not much of a web-talker and its been a shit year. I'll try to post more often. [/schmaltzy]

That would be very nice, even if it's just a hello.  You tend to keep the maniacs in line.  It's been cats fucking goldfish since you left.  No joke.