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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: LMNO on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM

Title: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: LMNO on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 03:40:44 PM
How is this a surprise?

Best part is, this just insured that justice is now for the rich, as a matter of law BOTH de facto AND de jure.

Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: LMNO on December 13, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
It even has a name now: "The Affluence Defense".
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
It even has a name now: "The Affluence Defense".

Because I have everything I need and more, I cannot be held accountable for my actions.

What do you bet that the same teabaggers who say that poverty isn't linked to crime support the above notion, or use it to "disprove" the poverty link?
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Cain on December 13, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
To be fair, Texas and white teenager with rich parents.

It was only this because they couldn't find some other technicality, like standing his ground against evil pedestrians or something.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: LMNO on December 13, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
To be fair, Texas and white teenager with rich parents.

It was only this because they couldn't find some other technicality, like standing his ground against evil pedestrians or something.


:lol:
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: hooplala on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.

"Texas".
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: hooplala on December 13, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.

"Texas".

Oh.  Right.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.

"Texas".

Oh.  Right.

If you've never been there, it's really hard to describe.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 13, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
To be fair, Texas and white teenager with rich parents.

It was only this because they couldn't find some other technicality, like standing his ground against evil pedestrians or something.


:lol:

"THOSE PEOPLE WALKING"
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 06:10:56 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 13, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 13, 2013, 04:11:01 PM
To be fair, Texas and white teenager with rich parents.

It was only this because they couldn't find some other technicality, like standing his ground against evil pedestrians or something.


:lol:

"THOSE PEOPLE WALKING"

Have I mentioned that I'm against that?
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 13, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.

"Texas".

Oh.  Right.

If you've never been there, it's really hard to describe.

The words don't even EXIST.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 13, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.

"Texas".

Oh.  Right.

If you've never been there, it's really hard to describe.

The words don't even EXIST.

They do, but they turn sideways in my mouth when I try to say them.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 13, 2013, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 13, 2013, 06:12:06 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 04:35:26 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2013, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:36:38 PM
Kid gets out of manslaughter conviction claiming he was too much of a spoiled brat to know better. (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/12/12/judge-rules-teensaffluenceisadefenseagainstdui.html)

QuoteA Texas teenager who killed four people while driving drunk was sentenced this week to 10 years' probation in lieu of jail time, after the defense argued that the 16-year-old was a product of "affluenza" — a condition in which growing up wealthy prevents children from understanding the links between their behaviors and the consequences, because they are rarely held accountable for their actions.

I can't even.

I can't currently find a source on this, but Anderson Cooper claims (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/12/anderson-cooper-hammers-psychologist-who-diagnosed-lethal-drunk-driver-with-affluenza/) that the same judge recently sentenced a poor black 14 year old to TEN YEARS... for punching someone once, who then hit the ground and died.

"Texas".

Oh.  Right.

If you've never been there, it's really hard to describe.

The words don't even EXIST.

They do, but they turn sideways in my mouth when I try to say them.

That probably explains the strangling sensation I get when I pay attention to things here.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Bruno on December 13, 2013, 07:58:41 PM
So the judge ruled that this kids pathological irresponsibility is due to the parents' neglect?

They better be getting ALL of the parents' money.

ALL OF IT!
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 13, 2013, 07:58:41 PM
So the judge ruled that this kids pathological irresponsibility is due to the parents' neglect?

They better be getting ALL of the parents' money.

ALL OF IT!


I gotta ask, what color is the sky in your world?   :lulz:

Here's what's going to happen.  Relatives of victims will file a lawsuit.  Parents will offer a settlement.  If settlement is accepted, that's that.  If settlement is not accepted, parents will lawyer the relatives of the victims to death.  The end.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Ben Shapiro on December 13, 2013, 08:30:10 PM
Time to run over the wrong people because I don't know any better since I'm a bear.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Bruno on December 13, 2013, 08:44:08 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on December 13, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on December 13, 2013, 07:58:41 PM
So the judge ruled that this kids pathological irresponsibility is due to the parents' neglect?

They better be getting ALL of the parents' money.

ALL OF IT!


I gotta ask, what color is the sky in your world?   :lulz:

Here's what's going to happen.  Relatives of victims will file a lawsuit.  Parents will offer a settlement.  If settlement is accepted, that's that.  If settlement is not accepted, parents will lawyer the relatives of the victims to death.  The end.

1.) it depends primarily on what the flying unicorn-pegasi had for breakfast that day.

2.)That sounds about right, but having the judge blame the parents in the criminal case has to help some, right?
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Bruno on December 13, 2013, 08:50:41 PM
Aaaaaaannnnddd... guess what just popped up in the ads on my facebook page mere seconds after making that last post.


(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Jerry_Frankster/ThanksInternet_zps87d9a660.jpg)
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Junkenstein on December 13, 2013, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
It even has a name now: "The Affluence Defense".

It's got more than a name now too, it's got precedent. This is going to be valuable as fuck for all sorts of people who could conceivably end up in courts in the next few years.

This:
QuoteWFAA ABC reported that Miller said the teen's parents gave him "freedoms no young person should have."
gets me thinking that it's a small step to justify "I'm so rich I have freedoms no person should have" as a last ditch get out of jail. The main thing it seems you need to prove is that wealth disconnects you from the law which is making me start to laugh.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: minuspace on December 14, 2013, 03:31:43 AM
Quote from: Junkenstein on December 13, 2013, 11:51:58 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 13, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
It even has a name now: "The Affluence Defense".

It's got more than a name now too, it's got precedent. This is going to be valuable as fuck for all sorts of people who could conceivably end up in courts in the next few years.

This:
QuoteWFAA ABC reported that Miller said the teen's parents gave him "freedoms no young person should have."
gets me thinking that it's a small step to justify "I'm so rich I have freedoms no person should have" as a last ditch get out of jail. The main thing it seems you need to prove is that wealth disconnects you from the law which is making me start to laugh.

So freedom != responsibility...  Act accordingly.  :horrormirth:
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 14, 2013, 09:04:50 PM
Step 1: Poor kid shoots this kid

Step 2: Hire shrink to invent "Povertunomia," the mental illness resulting from growing up in a poor environment and not being familiar with effective solutions other than violence

Step 3: No one goes to jail ever again





(lol, of course the poor kid will go to jail, nothing is fair ever)
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 14, 2013, 09:42:27 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on December 14, 2013, 09:04:50 PM
Step 1: Poor kid shoots this kid

Step 2: Hire shrink to invent "Povertunomia," the mental illness resulting from growing up in a poor environment and not being familiar with effective solutions other than violence

Step 3: No one goes to jail ever again





(lol, of course the poor kid will go to jail, nothing is fair ever)

Povertenza. http://ourlegaci.com/2013/12/13/please-excuse-davontaye-he-suffers-from-povertenza/

I was reading that going "Yes, yes..." until I got to this:

QuoteInstead of jumping to fill up prisons, let's start putting youth from disadvantaged backgrounds in treatment facilities.

Then I got the jimjams.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I still think the solution is to give Texas back to Mexico.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on December 15, 2013, 02:55:25 AM
Or France.
That'd make them jump into the Gulf like lemmings.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: minuspace on December 15, 2013, 03:05:23 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on December 15, 2013, 02:55:25 AM
Or France.
Better because, you know, extradition proceedings rarely get rendered to US by France, on principle. :lulz:
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: The Johnny on December 15, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 15, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I still think the solution is to give Texas back to Mexico.

Give us the oil, keep the honkies.

OH WAIT not even oil in our land is ours due to the recent legislation. 
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 15, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 15, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 15, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I still think the solution is to give Texas back to Mexico.

Give us the oil, keep the honkies.

OH WAIT not even oil in our land is ours due to the recent legislation.

WE DON'T WANT THEM.
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: minuspace on December 16, 2013, 07:45:14 AM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 15, 2013, 07:44:46 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 15, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: Radagast's Red Velvet Pancake Puppies on December 15, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I still think the solution is to give Texas back to Mexico.

Give us the oil, keep the honkies.

OH WAIT not even oil in our land is ours due to the recent legislation.

WE DON'T WANT THEM.

MINE-R-ALL RIGHTS!
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Pergamos on December 24, 2013, 02:02:32 AM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on December 15, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I still think the solution is to give Texas back to Mexico.

Poor Mexico, what did they do to us to deserve that?
Title: Re: Privilege: Now with established precedent!
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 24, 2013, 07:44:07 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on December 24, 2013, 02:02:32 AM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on December 15, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
I still think the solution is to give Texas back to Mexico.

Poor Mexico, what did they do to us to deserve that?

They let us take it in the first place. I feel reasonably certain that they took a fall.