Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 04, 2014, 09:15:23 PM
Quote from: Pixie on January 04, 2014, 09:12:21 PM
does this mean evo psych can suck my strap on now?
Evolutionary psychology is an interesting budding field of investigation that is closely related to medical anthropology. However, it is, as an infant science, highly speculative and subject to loosely formed standards of rigor, as well as widely, WIDELY misunderstood/misappropriated/misrepresented by popular media.
Those two sentences. The very soul of pith, I say.
(edited to change title)
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 04, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Yeah, I was tickled to see it call out something that always bothered me about (what little I know about) the study of psychology. And the concept that many of our failings as a species are due to cultural imprint rather than biological hardwiring seems like it should be HUGE.
I heard it said that a great deal of psychology as we know it was pretty much built on a tacit agreement to ignore that bombshell. Specifically, it was Wilhelm Reich's (political) criticism of Sigmund Freud that his introduction of the death drive (later called Thanatos) was simply obfuscation intended to allow Freud and his followers to state the glaringly obvious, namely that the society they lived in was making its constituent humans sick and perverted in a systematic manner. They rather wished not to raise that issue because it would have involved them in radical (gender and social) politics of some sort, and probably would have robbed them of their income, too (Freud largely treated women, but their husbands were paying for it.)
Every now and then someone comes along beating a drum about this. Three of my favourite examples are Daniel Quinn (Ishmael, The Story of B, and several other books, all stylistic variations on the same theme, really), Jean Liedloff's The Continuum Concept and Alice Miller's work on what she calls "black education" (The Drama of the Gifted Child, For Your Own Good).
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 04, 2014, 09:33:07 PM
Which, I would add, we do have the option of walking away from. Not individually, but as a society.
I'm probably being stupid, but I read that as ambiguous? Do you mean the second sentence to say: "I'm not talking about walking away individually from it, but about walking away as a society"? Or are you actually saying it is not possible to walk away individually? Because I think it is actually quite possible to walk away individually - although it is in fact true that many people just kid themselves that they have done so, and, of course, there are limits to the extent dissociation from the machine is possible.
Quote from: holist on January 06, 2014, 05:48:34 AM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 04, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Yeah, I was tickled to see it call out something that always bothered me about (what little I know about) the study of psychology. And the concept that many of our failings as a species are due to cultural imprint rather than biological hardwiring seems like it should be HUGE.
I heard it said that a great deal of psychology as we know it was pretty much built on a tacit agreement to ignore that bombshell. Specifically, it was Wilhelm Reich's (political) criticism of Sigmund Freud that his introduction of the death drive (later called Thanatos) was simply obfuscation intended to allow Freud and his followers to state the glaringly obvious, namely that the society they lived in was making its constituent humans sick and perverted in a systematic manner. They rather wished not to raise that issue because it would have involved them in radical (gender and social) politics of some sort, and probably would have robbed them of their income, too (Freud largely treated women, but their husbands were paying for it.)
Every now and then someone comes along beating a drum about this. Three of my favourite examples are Daniel Quinn (Ishmael, The Story of B, and several other books, all stylistic variations on the same theme, really), Jean Liedloff's The Continuum Concept and Alice Miller's work on what she calls "black education" (The Drama of the Gifted Child, For Your Own Good).
Might I ask you to be so kind as to shut the fuck up and not post in my threads when adults are talking? I've no interest in anything you might have to say about anything nor do I have any interest in ending your complete social ostracization at this site. You're a fucking turd. Thanks in advance.
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:30 AM
Might I ask you to be so kind as to shut the fuck up and not post in my threads when adults are talking? I've no interest in anything you might have to say about anything nor do I have any interest in ending your complete social ostracization at this site. You're a fucking turd. Thanks in advance.
Okay.
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.
Service with a smile, here.
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.
Is that like a built in mechanism and you aren't actually able to edit threads you started yourself, or were you simply so unwilling to touch it?
Quote from: holist on January 07, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
Quote from: Jet City Hustle on January 06, 2014, 07:07:58 AM
In fact, could one of the other admins split this idiot out of my thread? Thanks.
Is that like a built in mechanism and you aren't actually able to edit threads you started yourself, or were you simply so unwilling to touch it?
:kojak:
I want to laugh at him, but the idiot thinks I want to be his friend.
Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 07, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
I want to laugh at him, but the idiot thinks I want to be his friend.
Kojak is his friend.
Kojak deserves better.
Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 07, 2014, 08:33:14 PM
I want to laugh at him, but the idiot thinks I want to be his friend.
Actually, laugh ahead, no such risk.
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Agreed. I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img35/8458/ltc2.jpg)
The pupils need to be slightly off, I think. Make it properly punchable.
They are subtly off, if you look close.
Hmm, yes. I see it now. It IS pretty punchable and lulzy, anyway.
Holist isn't so bad. I used his disapproval of my musicianship as a selling point for my album.
:lulz:
Quote from: Hoopla on January 10, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Agreed. I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img35/8458/ltc2.jpg)
I'd be okay with that except for the clean-shaven look. Can I have one with facial hair?
Quote from: holist on January 10, 2014, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 10, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Agreed. I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img35/8458/ltc2.jpg)
I'd be okay with that except for the clean-shaven look. Can I have one with facial hair?
LEARN TO PHOTOSHOP
Sorry Holist. While I do have a tendency to be antagonistic to you that was prompted by someone else's bullshit.
But really, just draw that on.
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on January 10, 2014, 07:51:08 AM
Quote from: holist on January 10, 2014, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 10, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Agreed. I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img35/8458/ltc2.jpg)
I'd be okay with that except for the clean-shaven look. Can I have one with facial hair?
LEARN TO PHOTOSHOP
Sorry Holist. While I do have a tendency to be antagonistic to you that was prompted by someone else's bullshit.
But really, just draw that on.
Other people want me to voluntarily change my avatar to something they prefer to my own one. So I dread to get involved, because... what if they don't like it???? But actually, I did a bit of photoshop, so I'll try something.
Quote from: holist on January 10, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on January 10, 2014, 07:51:08 AM
Quote from: holist on January 10, 2014, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 10, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Agreed. I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img35/8458/ltc2.jpg)
I'd be okay with that except for the clean-shaven look. Can I have one with facial hair?
LEARN TO PHOTOSHOP
Sorry Holist. While I do have a tendency to be antagonistic to you that was prompted by someone else's bullshit.
But really, just draw that on.
Other people want me to voluntarily change my avatar to something they prefer to my own one. So I dread to get involved, because... what if they don't like it???? But actually, I did a bit of photoshop, so I'll try something.
Honestly the pic is begging for improvement. It's halfway there. Draw all sorts of facial hair on it.
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on January 10, 2014, 08:31:12 AM
Quote from: holist on January 10, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on January 10, 2014, 07:51:08 AM
Quote from: holist on January 10, 2014, 06:52:29 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 10, 2014, 12:58:47 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on January 10, 2014, 12:42:22 AM
Between holist and Coca Cola, I'm starting to have an annoyed reaction to polar bears.
Agreed. I propose he voluntarily change his avatar to this image:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img35/8458/ltc2.jpg)
I'd be okay with that except for the clean-shaven look. Can I have one with facial hair?
LEARN TO PHOTOSHOP
Sorry Holist. While I do have a tendency to be antagonistic to you that was prompted by someone else's bullshit.
But really, just draw that on.
Other people want me to voluntarily change my avatar to something they prefer to my own one. So I dread to get involved, because... what if they don't like it???? But actually, I did a bit of photoshop, so I'll try something.
Honestly the pic is begging for improvement. It's halfway there. Draw all sorts of facial hair on it.
Sorry, I went off at a tangent.
Dodo dog seems to fit. But now I have this smug image, and nothing to do with it... hmmm.....