I'm fascinated by these fuckers. We don't have them on the Western side of the state, but go to the Eastern side and they're everyfuckingwhere:
(http://media.oregonlive.com/environment_impact/photo/wind-turbines-boydjpg-ffb9283b8f41badd.jpg)
(http://consciouslifenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/wind-turbines-wind-energy.jpg)
And they're quite large.
(http://blog.oregonlive.com/news_impact/2009/03/wind3.JPG)
(http://blog.mlive.com/chronicle/2008/01/03windworkers.jpg)
(http://www.evwind.es/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/wind-energy-wind-turbines.jpg)
(http://seattletimes.com/ABPub/2008/07/22/2008066909.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSnMYfnBbx2E56uHBlKcEDHxIEngUXbTVv09eb7shZ3_El06rfr)
I've never gotten up close to them. You can drive through them, but you aren't supposed to stop and hang out with them. Do you guys have many of them near where you live? They're so weird. And cool.
Had a few in Wyoming. Arizona, of course, is having none of that renewable-energy shit dreamed up by latte-sipping liberals from Yale.
I think they're cool looking, but I'm not super impressed with the technology to be honest. Just not futury enough for me.
Quote from: V3X on January 09, 2014, 09:35:34 PM
Had a few in Wyoming. Arizona, of course, is having none of that renewable-energy shit dreamed up by latte-sipping liberals from Yale.
I think they're cool looking, but I'm not super impressed with the technology to be honest. Just not futury enough for me.
When I was at the conference in November we got a preview of some new wind turbine designs coming up. I think you'll be pleased.
Actually, come to think of it, you might not be pleased at all, because they're based on biomimicry.
This might not be your future. :lol:
No, biomimicry is awesome. What I don't like about the ones we have is they look awkward to me. Biomimicry would probably go a long way toward fixing that.
The neighboring town put up a couple of them recently. Residents nearby fought tooth and nail to prevent them being put in, and put in grievance after grievance once they were operating because the swooping sound they made caused them psychological distress.
Naturally, before my local satire page went defunct, they were ridiculed ruthlessly.
yeah, when all birds die ang go extinct because they go into turbine and we run out of air because it depletes it and no more waves in the ocean and nothing ti breath you will think twice of your hippy dreams of free energies
I'm with you Nigel, I think they're gorgeous!
I think they were a vast improvement in the Port of Providence. My friends and I even named them.
These are the girls: Windy, Wendy, and Gale.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jj7o_V79fWk/UMfpZO0goLI/AAAAAAAAAoc/ksxkkElFVs0/s1600/Beacon+Wind+Turbine+Photo.JPG (big pic)
(http://www.ripower.org/files/uploads/NBC%20wind%20turbines.%20credit%20Steve%20Klamkin%20WPRO%20news.PNG)
And then the first one built in the state, which is part of New England Tech, is Mariah, further down the road is Gwynt, which I guess is Welsh for wind. In Wickford we have Wicket the Wicked Wickford Windmill, and in Narragansett we have Salty.
Then we have the offshore farm near Block Island:
(http://wordlesstech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/rhode-island-offshore-wind-farm5.jpg)
Here's Mariah!
(http://www.neit.edu/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/new_england_tech-rhode_island-automotive_school.jpg)
Wicket, he's MASSIVE:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eFvA6eIgUBw/ULY56LfjzMI/AAAAAAAARds/x_mLujq0fos/s320/NK%2BGreen.jpg)
Here's Salty when he was being built:
(http://www.woodallscm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/fishturb-450x600.jpg)
They're neat. One of the things that trips me out is just the sheer enormous scale, partly because there are so many of them over East of the Cascades. It kind of boggles my mind. Hundreds and hundreds of them.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_z61PskCFZU/Tf5MQLBMofI/AAAAAAAABMA/_iJDGCRxHSw/s1600/DSCF2258.JPG)
My brain can't quite handle the scale of it. And there are even more of them in Washington and California, I think.
The bigness is one redeeming value. Also having a field of generators just powering civilization in a way that's more like a handshake with the environment than a violent conquest of it. Which, now that I think about it, is probably why so many people oppose them so angrily.
Suu, you guys seem to have them quite close to human habitation... or is that an optical illusion? We don't put ours near anything, but then again most of the state is uninhabited.
Quote from: V3X on January 10, 2014, 07:05:01 AM
The bigness is one redeeming value. Also having a field of generators just powering civilization in a way that's more like a handshake with the environment than a violent conquest of it. Which, now that I think about it, is probably why so many people oppose them so angrily.
That, and it spoils their view.
Not kidding, that's a huge point of contention.
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 10, 2014, 07:06:11 AM
Quote from: V3X on January 10, 2014, 07:05:01 AM
The bigness is one redeeming value. Also having a field of generators just powering civilization in a way that's more like a handshake with the environment than a violent conquest of it. Which, now that I think about it, is probably why so many people oppose them so angrily.
That, and it spoils their view.
Not kidding, that's a huge point of contention.
They should learn to appreciate manmade structures as belonging in the natural world, then. My father in law hates them to pieces because the land owners are allowed to shoot down eagles, but him and his hunting buddies aren't.
Of course, sometimes they do this:
(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/5324308.jpg)
and that's bad.
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Quote from: V3X on January 10, 2014, 07:05:01 AM
The bigness is one redeeming value. Also having a field of generators just powering civilization in a way that's more like a handshake with the environment than a violent conquest of it. Which, now that I think about it, is probably why so many people oppose them so angrily.
That, and it spoils their view.
Not kidding, that's a huge point of contention.
They should learn to appreciate manmade structures as belonging in the natural world, then. My father in law hates them to pieces because the land owners are allowed to shoot down eagles, but him and his hunting buddies aren't.
WTF
That doesn't even make sense, why would wind turbine landowners be allowed to shoot down eagles? That sounds like bullshit to me.
In my country there are 1.888 windturbines of which 578 in my province.
(http://www.energieportal.nl/images/nieuws/5546_flevoland_windmolens.jpg)
(http://www.alternatieve-energie-info.nl/images/windmolens_flevoland.jpg)
That doesn't sound like much but NL is tiny.
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 10, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
Quote from: V3X on January 10, 2014, 07:08:46 AM
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Quote from: V3X on January 10, 2014, 07:05:01 AM
The bigness is one redeeming value. Also having a field of generators just powering civilization in a way that's more like a handshake with the environment than a violent conquest of it. Which, now that I think about it, is probably why so many people oppose them so angrily.
That, and it spoils their view.
Not kidding, that's a huge point of contention.
They should learn to appreciate manmade structures as belonging in the natural world, then. My father in law hates them to pieces because the land owners are allowed to shoot down eagles, but him and his hunting buddies aren't.
WTF
That doesn't even make sense, why would wind turbine landowners be allowed to shoot down eagles? That sounds like bullshit to me.
Oh it is bullshit. They can't shoot them down, but they can get a permit that releases them from liability under the Endangered Species Act if an eagle crashes into a turbine and offs itself.
My father in law is having none of that actual fact though, because libruls and Obama.
The birds crashing into them thing was solved several years back. It was the frequency of the blades rotating made them invisible to birds or appear as stopped, they fixed that and since then there have been fuck all dead birds barring the ones who get blown into them.
Quote from: Faust on January 10, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
The birds crashing into them thing was solved several years back. It was the frequency of the blades rotating made them invisible to birds or appear as stopped, they fixed that and since then there have been fuck all dead birds barring the ones who get blown into them.
Really? I heard the argument that birds can't look straight ahead because of the position of their eyes.... Now that i think about that was a really stupid argument. Nevermind, i swallowed bullshit whole.
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Quote from: Faust on January 10, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
The birds crashing into them thing was solved several years back. It was the frequency of the blades rotating made them invisible to birds or appear as stopped, they fixed that and since then there have been fuck all dead birds barring the ones who get blown into them.
Really? I heard the argument that birds can't look straight ahead because of the position of their eyes.... Now that i think about that was a really stupid argument. Nevermind, i swallowed bullshit whole.
Yeah, birds of prey in particular have
excellent binocular vision.
Whatever the science, the permit deal is fairly new.
Link: http://m.trib.com/business/energy/interior-department-with-permit-wind-farms-can-kill-eagles-for/article_652c4049-95f7-573d-a053-08b85eb40497.html?mobile_touch=true
Quote from: :regret: on January 10, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 10, 2014, 02:05:58 PM
The birds crashing into them thing was solved several years back. It was the frequency of the blades rotating made them invisible to birds or appear as stopped, they fixed that and since then there have been fuck all dead birds barring the ones who get blown into them.
Really? I heard the argument that birds can't look straight ahead because of the position of their eyes.... Now that i think about that was a really stupid argument. Nevermind, i swallowed bullshit whole.
Yeah birds are smarter than that. The problem was fixed by varying the frequency of the blades so that the motion is clearer to them. I'll try find a link and see if all manufacturers do this now because there are other reasons too;
A small group of people were experiencing issues with their terrestrial television where they were seeing magnetic interference in the form of waves across the screen.
The engineers came out and couldn't see anything wrong with any of the turbines each one was outputting minimal interference. This went on for weeks, back and forward with people complaining.
In the end it turned out to be simple enough. There was resonance between all the blades spinning at the exact same speed in the same direction. They varied the rotation speed from turbine to turbine and the problem disappeared.
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Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 10, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
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Quote from: V3X on January 10, 2014, 07:05:01 AM
The bigness is one redeeming value. Also having a field of generators just powering civilization in a way that's more like a handshake with the environment than a violent conquest of it. Which, now that I think about it, is probably why so many people oppose them so angrily.
That, and it spoils their view.
Not kidding, that's a huge point of contention.
They should learn to appreciate manmade structures as belonging in the natural world, then. My father in law hates them to pieces because the land owners are allowed to shoot down eagles, but him and his hunting buddies aren't.
WTF
That doesn't even make sense, why would wind turbine landowners be allowed to shoot down eagles? That sounds like bullshit to me.
Oh it is bullshit. They can't shoot them down, but they can get a permit that releases them from liability under the Endangered Species Act if an eagle crashes into a turbine and offs itself.
My father in law is having none of that actual fact though, because libruls and Obama.
Ohhhh, I see. Yeah, some of that good old-fashioned American critical thinking. :lol:
Quote from: :regret: on January 10, 2014, 09:19:16 AM
In my country there are 1.888 windturbines of which 578 in my province.
(http://www.energieportal.nl/images/nieuws/5546_flevoland_windmolens.jpg)
(http://www.alternatieve-energie-info.nl/images/windmolens_flevoland.jpg)
That doesn't sound like much but NL is tiny.
You people are like, the motherland of wind turbines.
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 10, 2014, 07:05:35 AM
Suu, you guys seem to have them quite close to human habitation... or is that an optical illusion? We don't put ours near anything, but then again most of the state is uninhabited.
We do. They're right along the highways or in residential areas. We don't really have anything uninhabited out here in the Megalopolis, and the unpopulated lands of RI are typically park and preserve areas. They want to put one right next to the Pell Bridge, and that is getting some opposition by the snooty Newporters who say it's ruining their view of the aircraft carriers at the Navy base, or something.
In upstate NY, there's a big field of them on the hills near where my boyfriend grew up in Herkimer County.
(http://images.topix.com/gallery/up-TMM6B19IAMBNURCT.jpg)
Complete with Mennonites.
This article was fairly interesting: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/17/science/earth/a-struggle-to-balance-wind-energy-with-wildlife.html?_r=0
Quote from: Kaousuu's Krazy Khaki Kristmas Kookies on January 10, 2014, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Nigel's Red Velveteen Skinmeat Snacks on January 10, 2014, 07:05:35 AM
Suu, you guys seem to have them quite close to human habitation... or is that an optical illusion? We don't put ours near anything, but then again most of the state is uninhabited.
We do. They're right along the highways or in residential areas. We don't really have anything uninhabited out here in the Megalopolis, and the unpopulated lands of RI are typically park and preserve areas. They want to put one right next to the Pell Bridge, and that is getting some opposition by the snooty Newporters who say it's ruining their view of the aircraft carriers at the Navy base, or something.
In upstate NY, there's a big field of them on the hills near where my boyfriend grew up in Herkimer County.
(http://images.topix.com/gallery/up-TMM6B19IAMBNURCT.jpg)
Complete with Mennonites.
What do your people do when one crashes from high winds?
Fortunately, we haven't had that issue yet. The really big ones are off-shore, which the exception of Wicket, he's massive. The ones near buildings are typically smaller. We also haven't had anything above a category 2 come through in ages, and considering these guys have already survived quite a few nasty Nor'Easters and hurricanes Irene and Sandy, I think they're pretty solid. But anything can happen.
I think they're cool. That may be because I don't have any wind turbines near me, so I only see them when I'm on vacation.
Wind Turbines are surreal - they always make me think of Salvador Dali paintings... you have this thing up in the air which is so big it's hard to tell how big it actually is. There's nothing at that altitude to compare it to, so at a distance you can't tell if it's 100 feet tall or 1000 feet tall.
(http://blog.aizpun.com/wp-content/uploads/Salvador-Dali-Wallpaper-19201080.jpg)
Quote from: Kaousuu's Krazy Khaki Kristmas Kookies on January 10, 2014, 04:25:14 PM
Fortunately, we haven't had that issue yet. The really big ones are off-shore, which the exception of Wicket, he's massive. The ones near buildings are typically smaller. We also haven't had anything above a category 2 come through in ages, and considering these guys have already survived quite a few nasty Nor'Easters and hurricanes Irene and Sandy, I think they're pretty solid. But anything can happen.
Oh, I've seen smaller ones closer to people. There aren't many of them on this side though. It's those big fuckers that go down in high winds, and what with each blade being a little longer than a triple-trailer semi, while it's rare, it's pretty stupendous when it does happen. It could wipe out a whole neighborhood, which I guess is why they keep them over on the other side.
Quote from: Cramulus on January 10, 2014, 04:27:04 PM
I think they're cool. That may be because I don't have any wind turbines near me, so I only see them when I'm on vacation.
Wind Turbines are surreal - they always make me think of Salvador Dali paintings... you have this thing up in the air which is so big it's hard to tell how big it actually is. There's nothing at that altitude to compare it to, so at a distance you can't tell if it's 100 feet tall or 1000 feet tall.
(http://blog.aizpun.com/wp-content/uploads/Salvador-Dali-Wallpaper-19201080.jpg)
I think that is exactly what trips me out about them.
I also never really understood just how many of them there are now, until I was on a plane in November and we rose up over the Gorge, and there were just SO MANY TURBINES, and because of the altitude they looked tiny but I know that the bases of the towers are like 100 feet in diameter. And then I was like, Oh, Humanity! because the obvious thing is that as grand a scope as this is, it is so clearly a baby step, an exploratory foray into sustainable energy that will, in not so many years, leave these massive turbine farms mere relics on the landscape.
I
LOVE shit like that. I love the historic future.
(http://www.the-editing-room.com/img/war-of-the-worlds.jpg)
The standard GOP line is that the amount of energy to make one of these and maintain it is too high to make it worthwhile.
It's utter bullshit, of course. Maintenance IS expensive and energy-consuming, and if you only put ONE up in a 50/50 location, you're behind the game. But when you make a bunch of them, and place them well, you get a bunch of power for cheap. The GOP assumption is also that you will replace the generator side when the windings go bad. Balls. You rewind the stator and move along.
So you don't want them in the East, but in the Southwest, Nebraska, coastal areas, etc, you get more out than you put in.
Also, Nigel just wants windmills to tilt at.
It occurs to me that the worst thing about Nigel is that she isn't bothered by being Nigel. She thinks it's normal.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 12, 2014, 09:28:50 AM
Also, Nigel just wants windmills to tilt at.
It occurs to me that the worst thing about Nigel is that she isn't bothered by being Nigel. She thinks it's normal.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
buts you are taking the air out of atmosphere, we are going to asphyxiate
Nobody seems to have mentioned that the bigger they are built, the less birdkill the turbines make.
This is because the turning blades become much more dodge-able by bird below 18 RPM's,IIRC.
Conveniently, the bigger they are the more energy they produce, so the bigger, the better.
I get to see the windmill parts Siemens ships in.
The dock they are offloaded onto is directly adjacent to the bridge I drive home over every night.
I have also seen single blades going down the freeway as oversize loads, and it took me a little while to puzzle out what they were.
...On a related tangent, you never hear anyone kvetching about the fact that millions of birds are killed by flying into towers, buildings, and glass windows...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towerkill
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on January 13, 2014, 12:05:46 AM
Nobody seems to have mentioned that the bigger they are built, the less birdkill the turbines make.
This is because the turning blades become much more dodge-able by bird below 18 RPM's,IIRC.
Conveniently, the bigger they are the more energy they produce, so the bigger, the better.
I get to see the windmill parts Siemens ships in.
The dock they are offloaded onto is directly adjacent to the bridge I drive home over every night.
I have also seen single blades going down the freeway as oversize loads, and it took me a little while to puzzle out what they were.
...On a related tangent, you never hear anyone kvetching about the fact that millions of birds are killed by flying into towers, buildings, and glass windows...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towerkill
Yeah, when they were building the wind farms in Eastern Oregon the parts would come into Portland and then get trucked East, and it's really something to see them going down the freeway. Totally insanely big.
Quote from: hylierandom, A.D.D. on January 13, 2014, 12:05:46 AM
Nobody seems to have mentioned that the bigger they are built, the less birdkill the turbines make.
This is because the turning blades become much more dodge-able by bird below 18 RPM's,IIRC.
Conveniently, the bigger they are the more energy they produce, so the bigger, the better.
I get to see the windmill parts Siemens ships in.
The dock they are offloaded onto is directly adjacent to the bridge I drive home over every night.
I have also seen single blades going down the freeway as oversize loads, and it took me a little while to puzzle out what they were.
...On a related tangent, you never hear anyone kvetching about the fact that millions of birds are killed by flying into towers, buildings, and glass windows...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towerkill
The only problem with bigger is the cost goes up (materials, manufacturing and money) which means the return on investment for the environment and for the energy supplier is longer.
That cost comes down if they are mass produced in large quantities but the bigger turbines tend to get more negative attention so are less widely used.
i still would wonder to what scale the law of "diminishing returns" would apply, sometimes more or bigger isnt better
Quote from: The Johnny on January 13, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
i still would wonder to what scale the law of "diminishing returns" would apply, sometimes more or bigger isnt better
It is when you're doing wind energy.
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Quote from: The Johnny on January 13, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
i still would wonder to what scale the law of "diminishing returns" would apply, sometimes more or bigger isnt better
It is when you're doing wind energy.
Well that's not completely true. A few years back the smaller turbines that automatically adjust their position to face path of the wind were getting as much out of them as the bigger models but only up to an upper size threshold where they start getting more out of them again.
If someone comes up a large size turbine that can change it's position without increasing it's mechanical strain, then we'll have a beautiful beast of a thing.
Quote from: Faust on January 13, 2014, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 13, 2014, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 13, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
i still would wonder to what scale the law of "diminishing returns" would apply, sometimes more or bigger isnt better
It is when you're doing wind energy.
Well that's not completely true. A few years back the smaller turbines that automatically adjust their position to face path of the wind were getting as much out of them as the bigger models but only up to an upper size threshold where they start getting more out of them again.
If someone comes up a large size turbine that can change it's position without increasing it's mechanical strain, then we'll have a beautiful beast of a thing.
Or just come up with a way to have the turbine stay stationary. It doesn't have to move, the blades do.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 13, 2014, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: Faust on January 13, 2014, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 13, 2014, 03:33:10 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on January 13, 2014, 02:13:24 PM
i still would wonder to what scale the law of "diminishing returns" would apply, sometimes more or bigger isnt better
It is when you're doing wind energy.
Well that's not completely true. A few years back the smaller turbines that automatically adjust their position to face path of the wind were getting as much out of them as the bigger models but only up to an upper size threshold where they start getting more out of them again.
If someone comes up a large size turbine that can change it's position without increasing it's mechanical strain, then we'll have a beautiful beast of a thing.
Or just come up with a way to have the turbine stay stationary. It doesn't have to move, the blades do.
I see a future with wind turbines the size of office blocks. People live in them. I say live, I mean are imprisoned. An amount of energy must be produced each day to justify your food allowance. Failure will make it exponentially more difficult to meet the requirement tomorrow.
What I'm saying is, in the future, these things are powered by people.
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 13, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
Failure will make it exponentially more difficult to meet the requirement tomorrow. mean that lubrication for the moving parts is not, today, an issue.
Fixed.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 13, 2014, 07:04:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 13, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
Failure will make it exponentially more difficult to meet the requirement tomorrow. mean that lubrication for the moving parts is not, today, an issue.
Fixed.
Thanks, not been channelling the future long and still get bits wrong.
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 13, 2014, 07:05:49 PM
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 13, 2014, 07:04:35 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 13, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
Failure will make it exponentially more difficult to meet the requirement tomorrow. mean that lubrication for the moving parts is not, today, an issue.
Fixed.
Thanks, not been channelling the future long and still get bits wrong.
It's all a matter of experience, really.
The worst thing about the world is that, just when you think it can't get any worse, it DOES. Even if it only happens inside your own head.
I haven't actually seen the written numbers yet, but I overheard recently that the current wind turbines in Providence (Windy, Wendy, and Gale) already cut energy costs by 8%. That's a small number, but it's still a CUT, from just 3 turbines!
The potential power from coastal winds is pretty incredible. I know the technology and funding doesn't exist to take advantage of it fully, but if it did...
The above 2 posts seems to be missing a "fuck you" section.
Where's the bit about how bad they are because reasons? You'd almost make people think there was something worth doing with statements like that.
Anecdotally, the Scottish view appears to be hate for them, regardless of where they appear. This seems particularly prominent among older people, something about spoiling the landscape. Because a coal mining operation or power plant of some description is just lovely to look at.
Costal/tidal/wind is probably the most realistic way forward for large parts of the planet. Whether the financial incentive is there to get them built is another question. I'd guess the largest ones to be built will be private ventures into the energy sector. The cash is waiting to be made by connecting to the grid. A venture into Nuclear is pretty impractical unless you're firmly established, same can be said for oil and gas. Fracking protests seem to be gathering some attention here with may take it off the table. Doubtful until at least some damage is done as a result but it would narrow the options here.
That said, it's not unlikely that China/France will get some very tasty contracts in the nuclear sector and that could easily seal the future in a different direction. The thought occurs that the best places to demonstrate the feasibility of this emerging tech would be countries which need it the most, i.e , the third world. I'd bet if someone shows a way to provide free/cheap power to deepest darkest where-ever the world would start changing really fast.
Fuck that shit, let's go fracking
Because why not?
Seriously, it's quite embarrasing when it's common knowledge that the practice is banned in France and who's leading the charge to do it over here? Total.