You know, when your beliefs get in the way of everything else, either you are Saint Francis of Assisi, or you've become somewhat fanatical. The former is far less likely than the latter.
We've seen this in the drug threads (RWHN), the privilege threads (Garbo), the Atheist threads (Coyote, a few others). It's happened more recently among Discordians, on facebook. So how do you know if you've become fanatical? It's easy...When you can no longer laugh at the assholes, when Satire becomes offensive, then you have lost your Happy Thoughts™ and become a fart-huffing fanatic under the blanket with the rest of them.
In at least 3 cases, the excuse offered was "my friends might see this". If your friends would disown you because someone ELSE told a joke, then GET NEW FRIENDS. As the good book says, "FUCK 'EM IF THEY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE"...And just to clarify, the joke in question (the most recent one) was at the expense of R Kelly, not at the expense of rape victims.
Now, the interesting part is, I've had at least one former Subgenius tell me that they are PROUD to be a fanatic (reminscent of aini saying that any SO of hers would have to "prove his/her commitment to the lifestyle"). I call that being a PINKBOY. I call that being PROUD OF NOT THINKING. I call that TEABAGGERISM IN A FUNNY DRESS.
If that hurts your feelings, well, the truth is seldom gentle. And it is not the business of a Holy Man™ to tell you that everything is going to be just fine, when you're actually doomed.
Fanaticism, incidentally, is almost ALWAYS the result of blanket/fart huffing. Even RWHN, it turns out, had been spending hour after hour in a google groups echo chamber, listening to people just like him (this is still active and can be accessed, and is horrormirthy as hell). Garbo had her group of "CISHET" haters (one professor in particular, not to mention the hipster in the video).
Only Captain Utopia operated without a fart support group, but he was batshit insane.
So in the end, if you can't laugh about it, you're a fanatic. If you can't laugh about it because your friends might see, just spraypaint yourself pink. Worst part is, in neither case are you actually HELPING anything, because nobody's listening to you except your fellow fanatics. This is known as the Palin Principle; Nobody ever accomplished anything by whipping their base into a frenzy.
That is all. You may now return to saving the world via venom and anger.
Or Kill Me
Fuck yes.... the buddha on the road is YOURSELF, mofo.
Quote from: Hoopla on January 22, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
Fuck yes.... the buddha on the road is YOURSELF, mofo.
And maybe a few of your "pals", too. Kill them with fire.
I seem to be walking a fine line. On one hand, poor taste and satire make me smile. On the other hand, there's stuff I just don't find funny.
I mean, I get what you're saying, a person can get blinded by The Cause so they no longer can think clearly, but there's just some stuff where my reaction is, "no, fuck YOU."
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 22, 2014, 03:40:00 PM
I seem to be walking a fine line. On one hand, poor taste and satire make me smile. On the other hand, there's stuff I just don't find funny.
I mean, I get what you're saying, a person can get blinded by The Cause so they no longer can think clearly, but there's just some stuff where my reaction is, "no, fuck YOU."
I am not fanatical about anti-fanaticism. If you're honestly disgusted and you act like you aren't, that's just as bad.
But that usually seems to happen when the satire is aimed at the victim or the situation, not the guilty parties, you may have noticed.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 22, 2014, 03:40:00 PM
I seem to be walking a fine line. On one hand, poor taste and satire make me smile. On the other hand, there's stuff I just don't find funny.
I mean, I get what you're saying, a person can get blinded by The Cause so they no longer can think clearly, but there's just some stuff where my reaction is, "no, fuck YOU."
My initial reaction to
everything is "no, fuck YOU." I've come to the conclusion that my 'initial reaction' is an asshole.
Not everybody has to want in on the joke. But if your fanaticism is so intense that you not only can't see the joke, but immediately conclude that your friends who do see the joke have suddenly, mysteriously turned into the kind of people they usually condemn, you have a problem.
I'm guessing something has happened on facebook?
That's not surprising about RWHN, though it is pretty depressing. I mean, I was depressed just reading him here, entire sites full of people like him....urgh.
A lot of them can vote as well. Remember that when you next hear about how great democracy is.
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
I'm guessing something has happened on facebook?
That's not surprising about RWHN, though it is pretty depressing. I mean, I was depressed just reading him here, entire sites full of people like him....urgh.
Yeah, there was a joke thread on TDS2014 about "R Kelly Day", and Nigel was joking around about it. Pixie took offense, and things got a little hairy.
Though how anyone would think that Nigel was being serious was beyond me entirely.
I could see how R Kelly would do that to Pixie. I also agree to your point as stated in the OP.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 22, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
I'm guessing something has happened on facebook?
That's not surprising about RWHN, though it is pretty depressing. I mean, I was depressed just reading him here, entire sites full of people like him....urgh.
Yeah, there was a joke thread on TDS2014 about "R Kelly Day", and Nigel was joking around about it. Pixie took offense, and things got a little hairy.
Though how anyone would think that Nigel was being serious was beyond me entirely.
Ah, I see. Yeah... I'm not sure how anyone could take that seriously.
I obviously need to spend more time on Facebook, so I can observe these things first hand, and not have to ask questions.
Reading the thread now. "I can't mock R. Kelly because some of my facebook friends might not get that it's a joke."
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
I was under the impression that everyone knew R. Kelly is a terrible, terrible person for many reasons.
Which makes this make little sense to me. I'm marginally happier with confusion than a facebook account however.
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 22, 2014, 07:33:54 PM
I was under the impression that everyone knew R. Kelly is a terrible, terrible person for many reasons.
Which makes this make little sense to me. I'm marginally happier with confusion than a facebook account however.
https://www.facebook.com/Rkelly
4.2 million likes.
Relevant:
http://scholarsandrogues.com/2014/01/22/dasha-zhukovas-racist-chair-we-all-need-to-be-more-responsible-with-our-outrage/
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 22, 2014, 07:46:54 PM
Relevant:
http://scholarsandrogues.com/2014/01/22/dasha-zhukovas-racist-chair-we-all-need-to-be-more-responsible-with-our-outrage/
110% agree.
This is the kind of thing I was intending to bring up in my reply to Cainad's thread, if I ever get around to writing about it.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on January 22, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 22, 2014, 07:33:54 PM
I was under the impression that everyone knew R. Kelly is a terrible, terrible person for many reasons.
Which makes this make little sense to me. I'm marginally happier with confusion than a facebook account however.
https://www.facebook.com/Rkelly
4.2 million likes.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DhF64eIu3Qc/TNDoltROo3I/AAAAAAAAAq4/IbRL8f9NdDs/s1600/Tard.jpg)
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 22, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 22, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
I'm guessing something has happened on facebook?
That's not surprising about RWHN, though it is pretty depressing. I mean, I was depressed just reading him here, entire sites full of people like him....urgh.
Yeah, there was a joke thread on TDS2014 about "R Kelly Day", and Nigel was joking around about it. Pixie took offense, and things got a little hairy.
Though how anyone would think that Nigel was being serious was beyond me entirely.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Another failed attempt of dropping: Roger/Nigel/Stella down a notch.
Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 22, 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Another failed attempt of dropping: Roger/Nigel/Stella down a notch.
Naw. Pixie is a sweetie. She's just trapped in a narrative.
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 22, 2014, 07:08:56 PM
A lot of them can vote as well. Remember that when you next hear about how great democracy is.
And according to RWHN they have influence over policy makers (beyond being able to vote them out)
Quote from: Pergamos on January 22, 2014, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 22, 2014, 07:08:56 PM
A lot of them can vote as well. Remember that when you next hear about how great democracy is.
And according to RWHN they have influence over policy makers (beyond being able to vote them out)
No, according to RWHN, RWHN is a policy maker. :lulz:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 22, 2014, 08:42:09 PM
Quote from: 375 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal on January 22, 2014, 08:33:49 PM
Another failed attempt of dropping: Roger/Nigel/Stella down a notch.
Naw. Pixie is a sweetie. She's just trapped in a narrative.
Yeah, Pixie's been around forever. It wasn't some kind of power play.
It was pretty dumb, though.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on January 22, 2014, 07:46:54 PM
Relevant:
http://scholarsandrogues.com/2014/01/22/dasha-zhukovas-racist-chair-we-all-need-to-be-more-responsible-with-our-outrage/
Oh holy shit, yes, yes, yes.
Which is also exactly the point of R. Kelly Month... it's making fun of the guy and anybody who sincerely admires him. And it's fucking funny. The guy who said "I peed in a bottle and threw it through the window of a schoolbus, that has to be worth some R Kelly points, right?" had me rolling.
If you can't make fun of people who are genuinely repulsive human beings, if you can't make THEM the butt of the joke, what is the use of humor as a social tool?
The fact that some people are so desperately looking for directions to point their fingers in doesn't mean that the "racism chair" is racist. People who disregard everything they know about others in pursuit of lodging accusations and being offended are wearing king-size filters that cause them to miss a whole lot, all the time.
Quote from: Junkenstein on January 22, 2014, 07:33:54 PM
I'm marginally happier with confusion than a facebook account however.
Same here, I think.
Besides that, I'm thinking certain members of my family will sleep better in their tidy Christian beds not knowing me that well.
Pro-tip on making everyone you meet in the uk angry/offended/scared-that-you're-going-to-rape-them: Sing "Blurred Lines".
Some girl actually stopped talking to me, when I told her that I like the song :lulz: