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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: tjg92 on February 18, 2014, 04:18:21 PM

Title: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: tjg92 on February 18, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
So this is ridiculous:
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

They've been in the same area for 36 hours now, by my count. It was working just by first type first serve but they just added this anarchy/democracy thing which is interesting but I don't know how it works. I guess it was in desperation to try to get these fucks out of the basement and stop them from releasing their best pokemon again, lol. I also notice that start spam has lessened.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Cain on February 18, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
Well, this explains why Twitch is going so fucking slow today.  I was gonna blame it on Sky tazing my internets.  Again.

Instead, it's another turbonerd convention.  Pokemon turbonerds, the worst kind.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Junkenstein on February 18, 2014, 05:35:15 PM
This could be quite amusing if it was applied to something skill based.

I assume this thing will probably run for a few weeks yet. And then scary people will try and 100% it as far as practically possibly.

Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 19, 2014, 09:16:02 AM
I think it is very interesting that 80k people typing commands into a game do better than a random number generator.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Pæs on February 19, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: tjg92 on February 18, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
So this is ridiculous:
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

They've been in the same area for 36 hours now, by my count. It was working just by first type first serve but they just added this anarchy/democracy thing which is interesting but I don't know how it works. I guess it was in desperation to try to get these fucks out of the basement and stop them from releasing their best pokemon again, lol. I also notice that start spam has lessened.
As best I can determine, users can input "anarchy" or "democracy" to move the slider towards one or the other. The normal state seems to be anarchy, presumably democracy requires consensus on input instead of doing what everyone wants at once.

This is beautiful.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Johnny on February 20, 2014, 03:04:49 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 19, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Quote from: tjg92 on February 18, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
So this is ridiculous:
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

They've been in the same area for 36 hours now, by my count. It was working just by first type first serve but they just added this anarchy/democracy thing which is interesting but I don't know how it works. I guess it was in desperation to try to get these fucks out of the basement and stop them from releasing their best pokemon again, lol. I also notice that start spam has lessened.
As best I can determine, users can input "anarchy" or "democracy" to move the slider towards one or the other. The normal state seems to be anarchy, presumably democracy requires consensus on input instead of doing what everyone wants at once.

This is beautiful.

75% of the votes needed to change orientation, and yeah, still stuck on anarchy  :lulz:

Bird Jesus saved the day a couple of times, but now theyve died and reset at same area for... well, 3 times as far as ive seen.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 18, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
Well, this explains why Twitch is going so fucking slow today.  I was gonna blame it on Sky tazing my internets.  Again.

Instead, it's another turbonerd convention.  Pokemon turbonerds, the worst kind.

I dunno about them being the worst.  As a gamer, I occasionally trip over Pokemon nerds.  They aren't so bad.  I think of them as stuck in 1996.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Cain on February 20, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
1996 was terrible.

True though, they're not the worst gamers overall.  I mean, given the choice I'd prefer to be in a room full of pokemon players than, say, Call of Duty players (not least because there are more 12 year olds among the latter.  OH SNAP).  But still...
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2014, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
1996 was terrible.

True though, they're not the worst gamers overall.  I mean, given the choice I'd prefer to be in a room full of pokemon players than, say, Call of Duty players (not least because there are more 12 year olds among the latter.  OH SNAP).  But still...

Lo5R players are the worst.  When they aren't taking up all the space in the gameshop endlessly sorting their cards, they're hanging out at the counter trying to look menacing.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Cain on February 20, 2014, 02:20:55 PM
We don't have them over here.  We probably expelled them, for being a net drag on the economy.

Which reminds me, there is a general gaming/Warhammer/computer repair shop in town now.  I should probably check it out at some point.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: EK WAFFLR on February 20, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
We only get Magic: The Gathering nerds and/or emos in our game stores.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Allfather Waffles on February 20, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
We only get Magic: The Gathering nerds and/or emos in our game stores.

Magic players are composed of people who wanted to be mathematicians but didn't want to do the work.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 25, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Allfather Waffles on February 20, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
We only get Magic: The Gathering nerds and/or emos in our game stores.

Magic players are composed of people who wanted to be mathematicians but didn't want to do the work.
:lol:

I'm afraid to ask: Chessplayers?
Or do they not count as gamers?
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 09:39:57 PM
Quote from: :regret: on February 25, 2014, 07:10:15 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Allfather Waffles on February 20, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
We only get Magic: The Gathering nerds and/or emos in our game stores.

Magic players are composed of people who wanted to be mathematicians but didn't want to do the work.
:lol:

I'm afraid to ask: Chessplayers?
Or do they not count as gamers?

Chess players are composed of people who wanted to be barristers and/or rabbis, but live in NYC.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
Chess would be much more interesting if it wasn't so reliant on memorisation of opening moves. With any luck it'll be solved within my lifetime so I'll know for sure that the solution for black is to play to force a draw unless/until white makes a critical fuckup.

Back to the OP, this thing is at 12 days. Significant progress has apparently been made. I bet someone has a tattoo related to this by the end of the month, if not already.

If anyone can code it and you can avoid getting sued, there's probably a sack of cash waiting for they guy who does Final Fantasy or another menu selection based RPG system. 
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
Chess would be much more interesting if it wasn't so reliant on memorisation of opening moves.

Chess stopped being fun when I reached the level at which studying playbooks was required.

So I walked away and never looked back.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
80,000 people playing one side of chess?
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Faust on February 25, 2014, 10:10:03 PM
Christ watching them trying to pick up an item on the ground was excruciating. They walk a little closer, they walk away. They stand beside it, they walk away.
They open the menu. They close the menu. They face the item, they turn away from the item.
They face the item. FINALLY they get it.

With the amount of trolls on this it's like watching  someone trying to wade through treacle with anchors on their shins.

If I watched more than five minutes of that you'd be able to convince me autocracy is a really good idea.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
Somewhat related, ever look at the historical Roman Dictators? It's quite notable that with only a couple of exceptions nearly all surrendered power willingly when the crisis has passed. In this situation, if control passed to a single player during key moments this would probably have been completed in a day if not hours.

Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:17:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
Chess would be much more interesting if it wasn't so reliant on memorisation of opening moves.

Chess stopped being fun when I reached the level at which studying playbooks was required.

So I walked away and never looked back.

Personally, Chess stopped being fun after everyone started playing computer chess and as such ended up playing very, very similar games every time. When you're both always making the same X many opening moves before actually thinking about what you're doing, why not just set the board up like that instead?
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Aucoq on February 25, 2014, 10:46:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2014, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: Allfather Waffles on February 20, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
We only get Magic: The Gathering nerds and/or emos in our game stores.

Magic players are composed of people who wanted to be mathematicians but didn't want to do the work.

You nailed it.    :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Cuddlefish on February 25, 2014, 11:27:11 PM
Tangential: I prefer competitive Pokemon (via Pokemon Showdown, not the official games, on account of Nintendo being unable to make a balanced competitive game) over MtG. The ability to accurately predict your opponents moves has a much more important role in the strategy of competitive Pokemon than it does in MtG, and I personally like that element.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Red on February 26, 2014, 01:33:14 AM
Quote from: Cuddlefish on February 25, 2014, 11:27:11 PM
Tangential: I prefer competitive Pokemon (via Pokemon Showdown, not the official games, on account of Nintendo being unable to make a balanced competitive game) over MtG. The ability to accurately predict your opponents moves has a much more important role in the strategy of competitive Pokemon than it does in MtG, and I personally like that element.
You know, I quit playing Pokemon for that exact reason. Now I'm going to have to check out Pokemon Showdown to see what's up.

Back on subject: I visited the channel. I bet the people there are just playing out of sheer nostalgia. It's practically unplayable as they are doing things. The poor guy on the screen barely moves. I blame democracy.

As best as I can figure out "democracy" means the movements will only happen by majority rule once at least 50% of the chat has said the same thing. "Anarchy" seems to ignore voting and pick random users to decide next move? I'm not 100% sure on this. Anyone have a better idea?
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: The Johnny on February 26, 2014, 03:03:11 AM
democracy is vote for a specific move and the voting lasts about 5-8 seconds, doesnt require majority per se, doesnt go higher than 15 votes to go thru with it
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 26, 2014, 11:36:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 10:03:38 PM
Chess would be much more interesting if it wasn't so reliant on memorisation of opening moves.

Chess stopped being fun when I reached the level at which studying playbooks was required.

So I walked away and never looked back.
I just go to a bar, meet up with a friend who uses way too much drugs (I don't even want to know what he uses) who learnt it in jail and try to be as unpredictable as possible without being completely retarded. This works about 65% of the time, which is good enough for me. I'm not trying to beat a computer, i just want something for my head and hands to do while i drink and talk shit with friends. (this friend was just an example, though his game is quite challenging for me)
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Pæs on February 27, 2014, 12:47:54 AM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/first_date.png)
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Junkenstein on February 27, 2014, 08:09:36 AM
There's an MTV producer pitching this exact thing right now.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2014, 09:48:36 AM
There's already been that woman who put a plan online to use Google Glasses and crowdsource her dating.

It was meant to be conceptual art or satire or something, but it's going to happen.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Junkenstein on March 02, 2014, 01:56:55 PM
It's been finished to some degree apparently.
(http://i.imgur.com/tGamTwP.jpg)

Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 04, 2014, 04:32:41 AM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
80,000 people playing one side of chess?

You would think they could tap into their collective wisdom and benefit....
I would like to see 80,000 people lose to one grade schooler.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Faust on March 04, 2014, 01:42:41 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on March 02, 2014, 01:56:55 PM
It's been finished to some degree apparently.
(http://i.imgur.com/tGamTwP.jpg)

The clock stopped at 255 hours because it took so long for them to get there.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Resigned Obligatorily on March 04, 2014, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: tjg92 on February 18, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
So this is ridiculous:
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

They've been in the same area for 36 hours now, by my count. It was working just by first type first serve but they just added this anarchy/democracy thing which is interesting but I don't know how it works. I guess it was in desperation to try to get these fucks out of the basement and stop them from releasing their best pokemon again, lol. I also notice that start spam has lessened.

We just need a prince of Pokemon to come dictate their actions......

Lol, is this really some demonstration/test comparing democracy to anarchy?
No one is trying to argue against that, but yeah right... as if real life equates to a game of pokemon.

Still, its interesting that soo many people are willing to try.
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Sano on March 07, 2014, 01:09:46 PM
Quote from: Pæs on February 25, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
80,000 people playing one side of chess?

You mean this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasparov_versus_the_World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasparov_versus_the_World)
Title: Re: 80,000+ people try to play Pokemon simultaneously
Post by: Reginald Ret on March 07, 2014, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: Resigned Obligatorily on March 04, 2014, 05:15:15 PM
Quote from: tjg92 on February 18, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
So this is ridiculous:
http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon

They've been in the same area for 36 hours now, by my count. It was working just by first type first serve but they just added this anarchy/democracy thing which is interesting but I don't know how it works. I guess it was in desperation to try to get these fucks out of the basement and stop them from releasing their best pokemon again, lol. I also notice that start spam has lessened.

We just need a prince of Pokemon to come dictate their actions......

Lol, is this really some demonstration/test comparing democracy to anarchy?
No one is trying to argue against that, but yeah right... as if real life equates to a game of pokemon.

Still, its interesting that soo many people are willing to try.
No.