Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 07:53:11 PM

Title: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 07:53:11 PM
It has been brought to my attention that certain Discordians feel that we are "doing it wrong", and that "several people" agree with Monad in principle, but feel that he worded things badly.  To those people, I can only say "Suck the peanuts out of my shit, pilgrim".

I'm The Good Reverend Roger, and there's nothing I like more than having the peanuts removed from my shit.

As any fucking half-wit knows, if you ask 8 Discordians what Discordianism IS, you'll get a minimum of 9 answers, a fist fight, two flounces, and a completely unrelated discussion.  So you'll have to excuse my horse laughter at the "several people" who agree with this carpet-bagging Monad jagoff, who seems to be in this for the purpose of gaining the domain name principiadiscordia.com.

Which, come to think of it, reminds me of that "Gavriel" asshole who used to come around demanding free artwork that HE could sell for his own profit, because...because.

Now, since the person didn't clarify who the "several people" were, I just plan on ignoring the existence of everyone on IRC who doesn't also post here at least occasionally.  I know some people there specifically who don't like me, or the board, or whatever.  They know who they are, and they can have all the butt-peanuts they want.  I won't be delivering them, though...I can't actually be bothered.

A word of advice to these shit-slurping crackheads, though:  If PD is so fucking bad, go make your own fucking board.  Seriously.  If you at least made an ATTEMPT to create the sort of board you'd LIKE to see, you'd have more fucking credibility than you do screeching about how everyone else is "doing it wrong" or "using the wrong software" or whatever.  Seriously..."Using the wrong software"?  Sorry we didn't tailor the board STRICTLY FOR YOU, YOU PRECIOUS LITTLE SNOWFLAKE.

So there you have it.  The board is what it is, nobody cares about your fucking opinion, and free butt-peanuts for everybody.

Now, fuck off back to your chatrooms.

Love and Kisses,
TGRR
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: LMNO on February 25, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/po2D5wf.gif)
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 07:57:05 PM
There.  I feel better now.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 25, 2014, 07:59:56 PM
Butt peanuts. I kinda like that phrase.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
QuoteAs any fucking half-wit knows, if you ask 8 Discordians what Discordianism IS, you'll get a minimum of 9 answers, a fist fight, two flounces, and a completely unrelated discussion.

It's amazing how often people forget the bold. It also amazes me that people still seem to think this is bad or unbecoming of Discordians.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
QuoteAs any fucking half-wit knows, if you ask 8 Discordians what Discordianism IS, you'll get a minimum of 9 answers, a fist fight, two flounces, and a completely unrelated discussion.

It's amazing how often people forget the bold. It also amazes me that people still seem to think this is bad or unbecoming of Discordians.

Yeah, well, I was sort of stunned by BDS's statement.  Given some bullshit at work today from my boss (which was also a bit of a surprise), I was pretty upset.

Now I just don't give a fuck.  I may very well be out of a job after how things went down 45 minutes ago, and I don't care.  I may offend all manner of IRC shitsocks (again, I am specifically excluding people who also post here regularly, such as Cain, etc), but once again, I find myself without any fucks.  None of these bastards ever liked me anyway, so why the fuck should I be upset about a pack of assmonkeys who sit around in a chatroom moaning about how we run this board?

:lulz:
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:18:00 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on February 25, 2014, 07:59:56 PM
Butt peanuts. I kinda like that phrase.

Good.  There will be much talk of butt peanuts fairly soon, unless I miss my guess.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
One other thing:  You will notice that I refer to the butt peanut crowd as "Discordians", which is slightly more respect than they're willing to extend to us.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Reginald Ret on February 25, 2014, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 25, 2014, 08:03:29 PM
QuoteAs any fucking half-wit knows, if you ask 8 Discordians what Discordianism IS, you'll get a minimum of 9 answers, a fist fight, two flounces, and a completely unrelated discussion.

It's amazing how often people forget the bold. It also amazes me that people still seem to think this is bad or unbecoming of Discordians.
It is unpleasant though. Then again, that is kinda the point. No true Discordian would place friendship above honesty. (runs)
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 25, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
One other thing:  You will notice that I refer to the butt peanut crowd as "Discordians", which is slightly more respect than they're willing to extend to us.

So, what exactly happened? Is it really that your average butt-peanut diet Discordians just want it to be all meaningless nonsense or is there something more to it than that? I guess I'm still trying to figure out where the animosity between the two groups stems.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on February 25, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
One other thing:  You will notice that I refer to the butt peanut crowd as "Discordians", which is slightly more respect than they're willing to extend to us.

So, what exactly happened? Is it really that your average butt-peanut diet Discordians just want it to be all meaningless nonsense or is there something more to it than that? I guess I'm still trying to figure out where the animosity between the two groups stems.

Who knows what they want?  They've never been clear about that...All they have to say is "you're doing it wrong", with no indication of what they feel is "right".

And then, having started a shitfest, they'll be along to complain about how all we ever do is fight.

:lulz:
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on February 25, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on February 25, 2014, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
One other thing:  You will notice that I refer to the butt peanut crowd as "Discordians", which is slightly more respect than they're willing to extend to us.

So, what exactly happened? Is it really that your average butt-peanut diet Discordians just want it to be all meaningless nonsense or is there something more to it than that? I guess I'm still trying to figure out where the animosity between the two groups stems.

Who knows what they want?  They've never been clear about that...All they have to say is "you're doing it wrong", with no indication of what they feel is "right".

And then, having started a shitfest, they'll be along to complain about how all we ever do is fight.

:lulz:

:lulz:

I don't know how you can say that you're doing a ha ha only serious wrong if it encourages you to have your own take on it by definition.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: THE PHYTOPHTHORATIC HOLDER OF THE ADVANCED DEGREE on February 25, 2014, 08:46:55 PM
I don't know how you can say that you're doing a ha ha only serious wrong if it encourages you to have your own take on it by definition.

Who knows why they do it?  Who cares?

We've written HOW many books on this here LOOSER FORUMS?  How many have they pulled off?  What new things have they contributed?

Oh, yeah.  Nothing.  Nothing at all.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Suu on February 25, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
YOU'RE NOT DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG BECAUSE DISCORDIANISM

Or something. I don't even know anymore. This is why I don't post in those fucking FB groups.

Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: The Suu on February 25, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
YOU'RE NOT DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG BECAUSE DISCORDIANISM

Or something. I don't even know anymore. This is why I don't post in those fucking FB groups.

Um.

It wasn't the FB group.  I wouldn't get upset over that.  It was "several" old timers (allegedly) in IRC.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Cain on February 25, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
I was there for at least some of this conversation and I don't feel like what you're describing is entirely accurate.

Some people on IRC don't post on PD anymore.  Fair enough, their choice.  I'm saddened by that decision, but it's theirs to make.  AFAIK, those people, specific exceptions aside, don't see PD as "doing Discordianism wrong" or whatever.  If anything, it's close to the PD position that the Discordianism of the forum is a kind of Discordianism, but how they interpret Discordianism is different.  These people may not like the overall tone, or some individuals here, but they don't question it as a valid Discordian site, and I have seen them argue with people (like monad) who have.

While some people may have made slightly impolitic or badly choiced phrases, by and large they were trying to show Monad that he was being a moron.  They werent expecting to have their every word choice scrutinized at leisure by someone on the forums.

Even if I'm not writing, I am still logged into IRC a lot.  PD rarely ever comes up as a topic of discussion, and in this case it only did because monad made it so.

No-one agreed with monad's idea that PD was a ghetto that needed to be purged and resettled by the right sort of Discordians.  Everyone told him if he was so keen to try something new, to go make his own site, with his own tone.  That is where the discussion about software, and how it can impact on communication methods and the culture of a forum originated.  If anyone has told you otherwise, they are selling you a line of bullshit.

Moreover, I'm now upset, because I specifically went out of my way to try and not cause a shitstorm based on a misunderstanding between IRC and PD. 
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Cain on February 25, 2014, 09:29:34 PM
And now I'm wasting time on an argument caused by a useless piece of shit like monad when I should be thinking about my research project.

So I'm probably taking a break.  I'll see how I feel in the morning.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 25, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
No-one agreed with monad's idea that PD was a ghetto that needed to be purged and resettled by the right sort of Discordians. 

See, that's what I took from your excerpt from the IRC logs.

Then BDS told me about "several people" who DID agree.

So, either BDS was less than honest, or you didn't see everything there was to see.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 09:35:16 PM
Of course, Monad left BDS holding the bag after that comment, so I think that issue is settled.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on February 26, 2014, 02:17:45 AM
Needs a soundtrack. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTbfLO4k04)
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2014, 02:59:57 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on February 26, 2014, 02:17:45 AM
Needs a soundtrack. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTbfLO4k04)

:lulz: Oh god. Oh god.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 03:19:14 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on February 26, 2014, 02:17:45 AM
Needs a soundtrack. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTbfLO4k04)

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Stella makes everything better.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on February 26, 2014, 05:01:16 AM
This . . . this whole thing was beautiful. The soundtrack clinches it all into one gorgeous whole.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Telarus on February 26, 2014, 07:14:07 AM
wow...
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Faust on February 26, 2014, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 09:35:16 PM
Of course, Monad left BDS holding the bag after that comment, so I think that issue is settled.

I'm not listed there and I explicitly and repeatedly said I agree with monad and I didn't even do it on IRC.

Not with his "solutions" but with his commenting on the marked decrease in new registrations, in people online, in new topics, in posts etc.

I don't believe in jumping to conclusions on those figures and pinning it on circlejerkin and injokes I believe in Root Cause Analysis and that implies looking at what was going on then, and now.

Just because people agreed with part of what he was saying doesn't mean they were sitting in a sowing circle discussing how Roger was the cause of all the worlds problems.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Cain on February 26, 2014, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 25, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 25, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
No-one agreed with monad's idea that PD was a ghetto that needed to be purged and resettled by the right sort of Discordians. 

See, that's what I took from your excerpt from the IRC logs.

Then BDS told me about "several people" who DID agree.

So, either BDS was less than honest, or you didn't see everything there was to see.

Well I don't know who BDS could be referring to other than myself and maybe a comment or two by Tripzip (in the first quote I included).  There was literally nothing in #discord between that point and BDS's comments, so either he misunderstood mine and Tripzip's positions, or, more likely (IMO) he used those words as a shorthand to mean "the people who critiqued you before" and didn't think too clearly about his exact word choice.

Either way, I can assure everyone in this thread that #discord has pretty much nothing to do with PD, postively or negatively.  The topic only came up due to monad and if I hadn't been there, it probably would've died without comment.

I also wouldn't hang around on a chatroom where people were dissing a site I help run all day.  Well, OK, I would, but not under my own userhandle, and not for simple conversation.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
Aw, I was probably overreacting.  Yesterday was the worst day of my professional life.

BDS, I apologize for going overboard.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Faust on February 26, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
Aw, I was probably overreacting.  Yesterday was the worst day of my professional life.

BDS, I apologize for going overboard.

Have you turned the ball mill into a Stompa (http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Stompa) to extract your revenge yet?
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 26, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
Aw, I was probably overreacting.  Yesterday was the worst day of my professional life.

BDS, I apologize for going overboard.

Have you turned the ball mill into a Stompa (http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Stompa) to extract your revenge yet?

No, my revenge will be a little more subtle.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Note that the apology extends to BDS, but not to Gonad, who still gets a lifetime supply of my butt peanuts.
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 26, 2014, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 26, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
Note that the apology extends to BDS, but not to Gonad, who still gets a lifetime supply of my butt peanuts.

:lulz:
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Ben Shapiro on February 27, 2014, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: Tiddleywomp Cockletit on February 26, 2014, 02:17:45 AM
Needs a soundtrack. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTbfLO4k04)

:motorcycle:
Title: Re: A Few Words on DOING DISCORDIANISM WRONG
Post by: Cain on February 27, 2014, 09:47:20 AM
Oh God no, Monad deserves every single bit of scorn directed his way.

And I can definitely see how you'd come to the conclusions you did, given the available evidence.  BDS did not word himself very well at all.  It may amuse you to know he is currently studying English.  Clearly it's sorely needed.