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Principia Discordia => Literate Chaotic => Topic started by: I_Kicked_Kennedy on March 23, 2014, 01:10:01 AM

Title: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: I_Kicked_Kennedy on March 23, 2014, 01:10:01 AM
Back in '08, maybe '09 (can't remember for sure) Cain dumped a zip file of some pretty enlightening books (or "unlightening", depending on your point of view).

I read the vast majority of them,  many of which would have been damn near impossible to find otherwise. I was hoping that we could have a new one with different titles and similar themes, pretty please with whisky on top?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on March 25, 2014, 12:56:01 PM
*shakes Magic 8 ball*

Outlook hazy, try again later.

If I can be given a good place to upload (no signup, easy to use), I could put something together.  But not before next week.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Reginald Ret on March 28, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
Next week, next month, next year, I don't care. i'm just glad the possibility exists!
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on March 28, 2014, 02:51:54 PM
I might do it as a torrent.  Not a public one, so I'd still need a filesharing site to upload said torrent file to.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on March 28, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
Dropbox?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on March 28, 2014, 03:39:01 PM
Could work, sure.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on March 30, 2014, 09:39:35 PM
While we're at it, it would be nice to have a step by step guide to "knowing the things that Cain knows".
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 01, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
I thought that was what these were?

Anyway, putting it together now.  Prepare for an eclectic mix of economic theory, parapolitics, history, sword-fighting manuals and psychology.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 01, 2014, 10:44:45 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 01, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
I thought that was what these were?
Fantastic!

Quote from: Cain on April 01, 2014, 10:40:52 PM
Anyway, putting it together now.  Prepare for an eclectic mix of economic theory, parapolitics, history, sword-fighting manuals and psychology.
*gibbering with anticipation*
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 02, 2014, 08:55:14 AM
Awesome. Appreciated here as well.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2014, 10:33:20 AM
Of course, I have no idea if making this into a torrent will work or not.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2014, 02:36:00 PM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w61u9zp5ksk36e/Rogue%20Discordian%20Ultimate%20Collection.torrent
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
Note: inclusion is not necessarily endorsement.  There are a few books in here which are potentially quite dangerous in the wrong hands, not least the KUBARK counterintelligence manual, Unrestricted Warfare and the Book of Five Rings.

If anyone wants to use a book from this collection for a book club style thing, please feel free.  I'd happily take part, assuming time commitments.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 02, 2014, 02:57:13 PM
Book club based around this sounds like an excellent idea. I'm in if anyone's interested?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 02, 2014, 03:11:12 PM
Tentative yes.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 02, 2014, 03:12:21 PM
File is 2.83 gigs, subdivided into folders based loosely on theme.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 02, 2014, 05:32:15 PM
Seems fine, coming down now.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Reginald Ret on April 03, 2014, 05:42:21 PM
I will try to parcipitate in a bookclub thingy.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 04, 2014, 02:49:42 AM
I would totally be keen for a book club.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2014, 07:33:17 AM
Cool.  Just so you guys know, I can only of course seed when I am online.  However, my work schedule is such that I should be online at the right time for most people at least twice a week.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 04, 2014, 07:43:19 AM
Fortunately my computer is just on all the time. .5% so far!
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 04, 2014, 07:44:54 AM
If it makes you feel better, I've uploaded precisely 596 MB since seeding on...whatever fucking day it was.  Wednesday, probably.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 04, 2014, 08:15:08 AM
I'll try and leave this work machine running constantly to help out too.

The IT guy here is clearly on crack. Facebook - Blocked. Download random programs and run them? No problem.

I may have to take a magnet to this machine if/when I leave.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 04, 2014, 09:01:49 AM
6%, speeding along.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 04, 2014, 02:37:34 PM
Ok, I'm attempting to download....

This is gonna take a while, yes indeed.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pergamos on April 04, 2014, 07:45:22 PM
I would like to be in the book club please
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 05, 2014, 01:47:32 AM
Download and seed.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 06, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
What do you use to manage your ebooks, Cain?

I'm going through mine at the moment, with Calibre, but the 'edit metadata' screen takes a good few seconds to change between books and twenty or so to fetch metadata from Amazon once I've told it what the book is named. I've got 7000 to name and tag  :eek:
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: 3n1g on April 06, 2014, 06:52:53 AM
Anyone still seeding this?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 06, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
Quote from: 3n1g on April 06, 2014, 06:52:53 AM
Anyone still seeding this?

Yes, calm down.  I just worked an overnight, 12 hour shift.  I'm not keen on leaving my electricals on for that length of time while I'm out of the house.

Quote from: Pæs on April 06, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
What do you use to manage your ebooks, Cain?

I'm going through mine at the moment, with Calibre, but the 'edit metadata' screen takes a good few seconds to change between books and twenty or so to fetch metadata from Amazon once I've told it what the book is named. I've got 7000 to name and tag  :eek:

Calibre, manual editing, luck.

I really just sort them into folders with thematic similarities (similar to the ones for this torrent, in fact) and I edit the filenames so the book title and author name are present.

Since I mostly use my books for research, I normally have a good idea of the ones I need.  I just scroll down and find them and go.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 06, 2014, 08:01:25 AM
Quote from: Cain on April 06, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
Quote from: 3n1g on April 06, 2014, 06:52:53 AM
Anyone still seeding this?

Yes, calm down.  I just worked an overnight, 12 hour shift.  I'm not keen on leaving my electricals on for that length of time while I'm out of the house.
I've got it on 24/7, if people want the 20% I have so far.

Quote from: Cain on April 06, 2014, 07:56:18 AM
Quote from: Pæs on April 06, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
What do you use to manage your ebooks, Cain?

I'm going through mine at the moment, with Calibre, but the 'edit metadata' screen takes a good few seconds to change between books and twenty or so to fetch metadata from Amazon once I've told it what the book is named. I've got 7000 to name and tag  :eek:

Calibre, manual editing, luck.

I really just sort them into folders with thematic similarities (similar to the ones for this torrent, in fact) and I edit the filenames so the book title and author name are present.

Since I mostly use my books for research, I normally have a good idea of the ones I need.  I just scroll down and find them and go.
Yeah, think I've just got a book sorting project for a while. May name them as I add them to reader, split the work over the next 9000 years.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2014, 11:13:20 AM
Organisation is for pansies anyway.  REAL MEN spend hours rooting around a folder looking for the right file.

Cain,
REAL MAN
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 07, 2014, 12:55:24 PM
I had about 26% as of this morning.  I'll leave the thing on for a few days.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 07, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
I've uploaded just under 4 gig.  So, between all of you, someone has a complete set.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 07, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
Work machine got turned off over weekend, it should be on for the next 5 days or so straight. Will seed as much as possible, will set better up speeds for non-work hours too. (The internet connection is terrible here so anything above a 50k/s during work hours means that no-one can do anything. I'll bump it up accordingly as and when this place pisses me off)
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 07, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
I'm at 100% and will be seeding 24/7 for a while.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 08, 2014, 09:47:09 AM
I'm at 100% on a couple of machines, at least one of which should be seeding for the forseeable future.

Seeing as at least a few of us have complete copies, it seems sensible enough to start nominating selections for the book club.

I got a couple of paragraphs into "The Problem of Punishment" by David Boonin and I would suspect that others would also enjoy it.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 08, 2014, 11:56:36 AM
I'm 100%, left my computer on, Vuze running.

I'll take a stab at whatever.  I'm a much slower reader these days, unfortunately.  It's difficult to get consecutive hours in line to really get a good head of steam going.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pergamos on April 08, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
The problem of punishment certainly looks interesting
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 12, 2014, 12:09:20 AM
Is everyone done downloading? I'm gonna close the application soon.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 13, 2014, 02:59:26 PM
I'll be seeding for another week at least, but I think most people have downloaded what they wanted.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Reginald Ret on April 14, 2014, 07:45:11 PM
I've got 100% and will be seeding for a while longer.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Junkenstein on April 15, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Anyone got any other suggestions or are we running with "Problem of Punishment" for the first one?

Also, new thread or keep it in here?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Reginald Ret on April 15, 2014, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 15, 2014, 10:03:10 AM
Anyone got any other suggestions or are we running with "Problem of Punishment" for the first one?

Also, new thread or keep it in here?
Problem of Punishment has my vote.

Same thread but change the title?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Lenin McCarthy on April 16, 2014, 02:14:38 AM
Finished downloading today. Problem of Punishment is fine with me.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 16, 2014, 02:42:57 AM
OK. Once I finish the Divergent Trilogy, I'll start reading it.



Yeah, I said Divergent. What?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
Never heard of it until now.

Charles Stross has an idea why YA Apocalyptic Fiction is so popular, which you all may find interesting:

QuoteThere has been a boom market in dystopian young adult fiction over the past decade. There is a reason for this. Play and recreation is an important training mechanism in young mammals by which they practice or rehearse activities that will fit them for later adult life experiences. (It's also fun, but bear with me while I discuss the more ploddingly puritan angle for a moment.) Could it be that the popularity of YA dystopias reflects the fact that our youngest generation of readers expect to live out their lives in dystopia? (The alternative explanations hold that (a) high school in the age of helicopter parenting, fingerprint readers in the library, and CCTV in the corridors is an authoritarian dystopia anyway, and YA dys-fic helps kids understand their environment; and (b) that worse, their parents (who influence their reading) think this.)

On a global scale, things are improving. The absolute number of people living in poverty has remained static or actually declined over two decades during which our population rose dramatically. Wars affect fewer people than ever before. Huge swathes of the developing world are actually developing, and are now within sight of catching up with our declining developed world standard of living. But that's scant consolation to those of us who are trapped in the middle. And the way things are looking now, I expect the 30 year old Brits of 2030, people whose grandparents were buying houses and starting families on a single breadwinner's wages in the 1960s, will be envying the living standards of the average Malaysian citizen.

This decline has not of course gone unnoticed by the elite. There's a reason for the increasing militarization of police and security organizations in the United States and the UK: widespread civil disorder escalating to revolution along the lines of the Arab Spring is no longer unimaginable by 2030 if current trends continue. The oligarchs can hold the lid down by force for quite a considerable time, but the longer this continues the worse the eventual explosion will be, as witness the upheavals in Egypt or Ukraine.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 17, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
I wont have much time to contribute to The Problem of Punishment, as it was one I skim-read a while ago and, while it is interesting, its not a book I know off by heart and I have other reading I need to get on with.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 18, 2014, 12:09:50 AM
Anyone still seeding?
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 18, 2014, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: Net on April 18, 2014, 12:09:50 AM
Anyone still seeding?
I should be. I haven't checked in a while.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Pæs on April 18, 2014, 12:23:34 AM
Yeah I seem to still be seeding. 6.3GB uploaded so far.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 18, 2014, 12:49:09 AM
Quote from: Pæs on April 18, 2014, 12:23:34 AM
Yeah I seem to still be seeding. 6.3GB uploaded so far.

Thanks. I'm plugging along with the download now.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 18, 2014, 04:54:43 AM
I'll fire back up.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 18, 2014, 07:02:21 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 18, 2014, 04:54:43 AM
I'll fire back up.

Thanks.

I'm about halfway through the download.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Cain on April 18, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
I'm continuing to seed as well, will be for the forseeable future.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Bu🤠ns on April 18, 2014, 07:38:18 PM
I'll see as well--get it while it's hot
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 18, 2014, 09:39:31 PM
Got it downloaded and am now seeding for stragglers, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: LMNO on April 29, 2014, 07:13:14 PM
Ok, done with the trilogy.  Gonna load The Problem of Punishment into my kindle tonight.

Last time, we all waited a bit before diving into the discussion (we should start a new thread for that), but this time I think we should be aimed at momentum.  You see something that strikes a note, say it.  The rest of us can comment or wait until we get there, or skip ahead, or whaterver.  The important thing is to keep the energy up.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on April 29, 2014, 08:06:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 29, 2014, 07:13:14 PM
Ok, done with the trilogy.  Gonna load The Problem of Punishment into my kindle tonight.

Last time, we all waited a bit before diving into the discussion (we should start a new thread for that), but this time I think we should be aimed at momentum.  You see something that strikes a note, say it.  The rest of us can comment or wait until we get there, or skip ahead, or whaterver.  The important thing is to keep the energy up.

Cool.

The first one with substantial comments on The Problem of Punishment ought to post a new thread.
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: Slyph on August 28, 2014, 07:18:19 PM
"Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days."

LAAAAAAAAAAATE :(
Title: Re: Can we get another Cain reading dump?
Post by: axod on August 29, 2014, 06:34:04 AM
May I have espresso, just, no seeds, I don't like beens in my coffee (: