The Checking of the PrivilegeQuote23, femme-presenting queer trans non-binary two-spirit genderfluid, xe/xir/hir/xirself pronouns, pansexual, PoC (1/16th Native American), white-passing except for hijab, Muslim (convert), neuro-atypical (self-diagnosed aspergers), economically privileged, sex-positive, body-positive, vegan, sociology major, loves Disney.
Not making this up.
Best quote:
QuoteYou benefit from white/western hegemony so you are white.
(See last line of self-description)
My daughter and I are kind of convinced that this is what you call a "Zen moment". Absolute perfection in class.
God damn tumblr taking Roger away from us.
Quote from: /b/earman on April 08, 2014, 01:58:54 AM
God damn tumblr taking Roger away from us.
What? No. I can only take a few minutes of that shit hole at a time. I haven't really been on the internet much until today, and today nobody was here.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2014, 01:48:49 AM
The Checking of the Privilege
Quote23, femme-presenting queer trans non-binary two-spirit genderfluid, xe/xir/hir/xirself pronouns, pansexual, PoC (1/16th Native American), white-passing except for hijab, Muslim (convert), neuro-atypical (self-diagnosed aspergers), economically privileged, sex-positive, body-positive, vegan, sociology major, loves Disney.
Not making this up.
Best quote:
QuoteYou benefit from white/western hegemony so you are white.
(See last line of self-description)
Back in my day we just wanted to be different and individuals. That was foolish enough on its own.
Kids these days want to be everything.
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 08, 2014, 02:05:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2014, 01:48:49 AM
The Checking of the Privilege
Quote23, femme-presenting queer trans non-binary two-spirit genderfluid, xe/xir/hir/xirself pronouns, pansexual, PoC (1/16th Native American), white-passing except for hijab, Muslim (convert), neuro-atypical (self-diagnosed aspergers), economically privileged, sex-positive, body-positive, vegan, sociology major, loves Disney.
Not making this up.
Best quote:
QuoteYou benefit from white/western hegemony so you are white.
(See last line of self-description)
Back in my day we just wanted to be different and individuals. That was foolish enough on its own.
Kids these days want to be everything.
HEY! 1/16th NATIVE AMERICAN.
Which means that "xir" great-great grandparent was a native American.
Me? I don't know SHIT about any of my great-great grandparents. Which implies that "xe" is a MORMON Native American.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2014, 02:06:58 AM
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 08, 2014, 02:05:04 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2014, 01:48:49 AM
The Checking of the Privilege
Quote23, femme-presenting queer trans non-binary two-spirit genderfluid, xe/xir/hir/xirself pronouns, pansexual, PoC (1/16th Native American), white-passing except for hijab, Muslim (convert), neuro-atypical (self-diagnosed aspergers), economically privileged, sex-positive, body-positive, vegan, sociology major, loves Disney.
Not making this up.
Best quote:
QuoteYou benefit from white/western hegemony so you are white.
(See last line of self-description)
Back in my day we just wanted to be different and individuals. That was foolish enough on its own.
Kids these days want to be everything.
HEY! 1/16th NATIVE AMERICAN.
Which means that "xir" great-great grandparent was a native American.
Me? I don't know SHIT about any of my great-great grandparents. Which implies that "xe" is a MORMON Native American.
:lulz:
QuoteTelling a fat person to lose weight is like telling a black person to lose melanin.
NOT SURE IF HILARIOUS OR INFURIATING.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2014, 02:20:53 AM
QuoteTelling a fat person to lose weight is like telling a black person to lose melanin.
NOT SURE IF HILARIOUS OR INFURIATING.
In the sense that they're both rude things to say to someone, yes.....
Actually I think that's hilarious.
:twitch:
Seriously. On some level, I think I'm glad that we've got people testing how far they can push their claims to identity, because having ideas to reject gives us a better idea of where we stand on a matter, as a society. But at the time I don't know what impact transpoor people have on the conversation, whether they make it harder for 'legitimate' identity claims. Who is qualified to make those calls?
You may not be making it up, but I'm fairly certain they are.
Quote from: Pæs on April 08, 2014, 05:04:01 AM
Seriously. On some level, I think I'm glad that we've got people testing how far they can push their claims to identity, because having ideas to reject gives us a better idea of where we stand on a matter, as a society. But at the time I don't know what impact transpoor people have on the conversation, whether they make it harder for 'legitimate' identity claims. Who is qualified to make those calls?
I think while they are able to claim any identity they feel like, if they really want to, it wont necessarily stop me from laughing at them if they take it to an extreme. Where that extreme lies is going to vary, and I'll admit I probably wont always get it right.
However, someone who describes themselves as a queer trans pansexual white/non-white (due to a blood requirement rather similar to that the Nazi Party held to) self-diagnosed Aspergers syndome having rich sex positive vegan sociology student...well, I don't need to point out the numerous contradictions in such an identity. Of course, you can have some conflicing identities, such as actually gay or trans Muslims (Iran is
very interesting in this respect)....but to this extent means someone is cherry-picking names out of a book.
And so deserving of mockery.
Sincerity probably plays a part. I cannot take such a list as sincere on the face of it.
Yeah, that's a good approach.
It's a tricky one, I wont deny.
I'm probably horribly prejudiced because I cannot take any claims to being Otherkin seriously, as an example. I think people who claim that don't actually "feel like [animal]" but strongly identity with their idea of what that animal is like. I don't think it's actually possible for a human to feel they are a particular animal as an innate function, because our ideas about animals are formed by culture, interaction and learning.
Which is why there are so many wolf-kin and virtually no shrew-kin. To use a somewhat unfair example, trans people can and do experience dysphoria based on actually existing variations in human bodies. While sometimes they are informed by culture and interaction in regards to gender, it's still a potential based in actually existing human experience (and I believe there is some evidence for gender dysphoria to have a biological basis).
I'd also differentiate Otherkin from shamanic and similar practices (a claim I sometimes see made) because those rituals are understood to be at least partly metaphor and symbolic, not reality.
So yeah. Throw otherkin out the airlock.
CHECK YOUR FEMALE PRIVILEGE. (http://thoughtcatalog.com/mark-saunders/2014/04/18-things-females-seem-to-not-understand-because-female-privilege/)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 08, 2014, 02:21:24 PM
CHECK YOUR FEMALE PRIVILEGE. (http://thoughtcatalog.com/mark-saunders/2014/04/18-things-females-seem-to-not-understand-because-female-privilege/)
Jesus Jackrabbit Christ. I can't even process the thinking behind these claims right now.
Quote16. Female privilege being able to have an opinion without someone tell you you're just "a butthurt fedora-wearing neckbeard who can't get any."
I think I found the problem (s).
Edited for plural.
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 08, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Quote16. Female privilege being able to have an opinion without someone tell you you're just "a butthurt fedora-wearing neckbeard who can't get any."
I think I found the problem (s).
Edited for plural.
:lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 08, 2014, 05:41:52 PM
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 08, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Quote16. Female privilege being able to have an opinion without someone tell you you're just "a butthurt fedora-wearing neckbeard who can't get any."
I think I found the problem (s).
Edited for plural.
:lulz:
When I got to that one, I was like, "ah, it all makes sense now."
LMNO wins!
I am all for contributing to this. :lulz:
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 08, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Quote16. Female privilege being able to have an opinion without someone tell you you're just "a butthurt fedora-wearing neckbeard who can't get any."
I think I found the problem (s).
Edited for plural.
:lulz:
Quote from: /J/ewcat on April 08, 2014, 08:58:28 PM
I am all for contributing to this. :lulz:
Welcome aboard!
FUNNIEST-YET-AWFUL RESPONSE TO A BACKHAND EVER:
Responding to a rather nasty comment from one of the mods of "thisisthinprivilege", guy says:
QuoteBigotry wears a lot of faces; yours has a double chin.
Why should we have to wear a uniform and a tag to identify ourselves, qnd cram ourselves into a box - while we can compartemantelize and shred ourselves into little pieces that we can put in a lot of little boxes? :fnord: :fap:
(using more than three categories at least acknowledges th complexity of self, but then ruins it by pretending that catch words can synthetize properly that complexity to strangers that really dont care, and one just ends up looking like a crazy person... if someone actually cares, theyll get to know you and selfdetermine what categories are relevant to them, something as simple as what. music you like instead of if you are a cishet overlord, 23rd generation grandson of genghis khan or one twenthieth Siberian)
I just feel bad for using the term transpoor. I had to make sure I couldn't find anyone with loads of money who feels like they identify as someone in poverty after typing that word.
Transpoor is probably the funniest concept I've seen on that front, ever.
It irritates me quite a bit that "trans" has become an attention-seeker prefix. And even more, because the general social embracing of trans* detracts so much from the general recognition of the harm of forcing people into social roles based on their anatomy.
Transpoor and transethnic (and possibly the simple trans*, since no-one can seem to tell me what it is) are pretty terrible concepts and almost certainly attention seeking. I'm not even sure transpoor is a thing. I mean, we used to call that "empathy" or "not being a douchebag", in the good old days before Ayn Rand and Lloyd Blankfein decided greed was the highest good.
I mean, I saw an argument for transethnic which made sense, when applied to people who were adopted by a family of a different ethnicity at an early age, though one could certainly quibble about certain details of that experience as well as whether transethnic is really the best term for this kind of thing.
But let's face it, most people claiming to be transethnic are American weaboos.
Then again, a lot of tumblr is like that. Like greysexualism or demiplatonic. Which basically means "attracted to people you have an emotional connection with". Well, no shit. Once the hormones die down, that can pretty much apply to anyone. But no, it's apparently a sexuality. And not only that, a sexuality which is part of the LBGTQA+ movement.
Quote from: Nigel on April 09, 2014, 06:33:45 AM
It irritates me quite a bit that "trans" has become an attention-seeker prefix. And even more, because the general social embracing of trans* detracts so much from the general recognition of the harm of forcing people into social roles based on their anatomy.
I'm trans-lefthanded.
I'm trans-longhaired (I used to be cis-longhaired until the male pattern baldness)
I'm trans-athletic
I'm trans-Norwegian (and cis-Irish)
I'm trans-Andorian
I'm trans-wealthy
I'm trans-20-20 vision
I'm trans-pantheist
All these labels and descriptors to box ourselves in. Why can't we all just be Transhuman?
QuoteWhich basically means "attracted to people you have an emotional connection with". Well, no shit. Once the hormones die down, that can pretty much apply to anyone. But no, it's apparently a sexuality. And not only that, a sexuality which is part of the LBGTQA+ movement.
Hold on, new one for me. Am I right in assuming that this is essentially some bullshit term devised by (crass, but likely accurate generalisation) creepy guys looking to convince vulnerable(Again, crass generalisation but I think we know the ideal target here) women who think they're actually friends to fuck? And they've adopted this as some kind of LBGTQQWTF+++? sexuality stance? And people
don't beat the shit out of them for this?
What a world. You want to fuck about? Fuck about. Just don't hurt anyone and don't slap a bullshit label on yourself to either feel better or help you convince others.
Not quite.
They claim smug superiority over the rest of us idiots who only think with our genitals and our crass ideas of bodily beauty and only form sexual and romantic attachments with really really specific criterea and otherwise consider themselves "asexual". That's grey-asexual as a general term. Demiplatonic is, IIRC, the variant of gray-asexuality where people claim they need to be friends with someone before the possibility of romantic attachment exists.
These are not preferences, they are sexualities. Allegedly.
Quote from: Faust on April 09, 2014, 07:30:01 AM
All these labels and descriptors to box ourselves in. Why can't we all just be Transhuman?
Oooh.
I can now actually describe myself as something that no one has ever described themselves before.
Twid,
Cishuman
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2014, 07:34:16 AM
Not quite.
They claim smug superiority over the rest of us idiots who only think with our genitals and our crass ideas of bodily beauty and only form sexual and romantic attachments with really really specific criterea and otherwise consider themselves "asexual". That's grey-asexual as a general term. Demiplatonic is, IIRC, the variant of gray-asexuality where people claim they need to be friends with someone before the possibility of romantic attachment exists.
These are not preferences, they are sexualities. Allegedly.
I'll try again - "Angsty teenage bullshit"? I'm not trying to be dense, I just don't understand people who spend more time fretting about their sexuality and possible preferred partners than they do actually being with these people and having sex.
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 09, 2014, 07:42:30 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 09, 2014, 07:30:01 AM
All these labels and descriptors to box ourselves in. Why can't we all just be Transhuman?
Oooh.
I can now actually describe myself as something that no one has ever described themselves before.
Twid,
Cishuman
I guarantee you it's been done on Tumblr.
Quote from: President Television on April 09, 2014, 07:56:26 AM
Quote from: (Doktor (Nephew Twiddleton (Twid)) Blight) on April 09, 2014, 07:42:30 AM
Quote from: Faust on April 09, 2014, 07:30:01 AM
All these labels and descriptors to box ourselves in. Why can't we all just be Transhuman?
Oooh.
I can now actually describe myself as something that no one has ever described themselves before.
Twid,
Cishuman
I guarantee you it's been done on Tumblr.
By a Trans-Andorian?
Not to generalize*, but tumblr is mostly made up of teenage shut-ins who obsessively reblog pictures of their celebrity crushes and write slashfic instead of going outside.
*this is a lie
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2014, 07:34:16 AM
only form sexual and romantic attachments with really really specific criterea and otherwise consider themselves "asexual".
I'm pretty sure that's known as "a fetish".
The BDSM crowd had this covered
decades ago.
But it can't be, because fetishisation is badwrong.
According to the same people, kink-shaming is also wrong.
But rape-fantasies are disgusting and should be illegal.
In other words, I'm not holding my breath for a logical argument here.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 09, 2014, 12:27:44 PM
The BDSM crowd had this covered decades ago.
Which makes sense, the BDSM crowd have always been more open minded and accepting of people then these bozo's.
As such there has always been that overlap with the the LGBT communities. It's quite funny that people who wear nasty rubber/leather suits who like to insert, shock or hit parts of their bodies with hammers have helped bridge peoples far more than any social justice warriors ever will.
Quote from: Faust on April 09, 2014, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 09, 2014, 12:27:44 PM
The BDSM crowd had this covered decades ago.
Which makes sense, the BDSM crowd have always been more open minded and accepting of people then these bozo's.
As such there has always been that overlap with the the LGBT communities. It's quite funny that people who wear nasty rubber/leather suits who like to insert, shock or hit parts of their bodies with hammers have helped bridge peoples far more than any social justice warriors ever will.
:dream:
No, honestly, it is.
Quote from: Nigel on April 09, 2014, 06:33:45 AM
It irritates me quite a bit that "trans" has become an attention-seeker prefix. And even more, because the general social embracing of trans* detracts so much from the general recognition of the harm of forcing people into social roles based on their anatomy.
Fortunately, the backlash against the SJW shit has already started. It will be out of fashion within a couple of years.
Sadly deleted, but quoted in numerous places:
http://baby-cougar.tumblr.com/post/68118250799/i-hate-it-when-i-say-things-like-kill-all-men
Quotei hate it when i say things like "kill all men" and social justice bloggers say "what about transmen?" like. yes. kill them too. did i fucking stutter. my misandry is inclusive and full of fire now just kill all men.
As one wit responded: "It's good that your bigotry isn't bigoted."
Quote from: Cain on April 09, 2014, 02:15:15 PM
Sadly deleted, but quoted in numerous places:
http://baby-cougar.tumblr.com/post/68118250799/i-hate-it-when-i-say-things-like-kill-all-men
Quotei hate it when i say things like "kill all men" and social justice bloggers say "what about transmen?" like. yes. kill them too. did i fucking stutter. my misandry is inclusive and full of fire now just kill all men.
As one wit responded: "It's good that your bigotry isn't bigoted."
I would be unable to not troll that.
It'd be like having your very own slightly illiterate version of Andrea Dworkin to verbally abuse.
Speaking of which...
http://lesbolution.com/post/67787910519/there-is-literally-a-man-with-me-in-this-house
Quotethere is literally a man with me in this house right now and i want him to fucking rot where he lies because there's no doubt in my mind he has the potential to rape and abuse and may have even done it already
My contribution to this thread is the post which made me realize that there are some very very diseased branches in the greater social justice dialog.
http://goatinahat.tumblr.com/post/45265637509/behaxrant-weshallcalloutcalloutstuck-a-boy
Goat In a Hat is an awful person who happens to be a Discordian and in addition is a bad human being. Even reddit (http://blerg) agrees.
here's a screenshot:
(http://i.imgur.com/i3J7wiR.png)
so, this 9 year old boy was outnumbered by a group of older asian kids and bullied to the point of suicide... and he was the one with the power?
and you want people who sympathize with him to "cry more white tears"? :vom:
Quote from: Cramulus on April 09, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
My contribution to this thread is the post which made me realize that there are some very very diseased branches in the greater social justice dialog.
http://goatinahat.tumblr.com/post/45265637509/behaxrant-weshallcalloutcalloutstuck-a-boy
Goat In a Hat is an awful person who happens to be a Discordian and in addition is a bad human being. Even reddit (http://blerg) agrees.
here's a screenshot:
(http://i.imgur.com/i3J7wiR.png)
so, this 9 year old boy was outnumbered by a group of older asian kids and bullied to the point of suicide... and he was the one with the power?
and you want people who sympathize with him to "cry more white tears"? :vom:
It makes perfect sense if you boil that child down to a statistic. This goes a little beyond social justice or tumblr. It looks goat in the hat has bought wholesale probably the worst part of the narrative and dogma sold by The CON. His entrenched disregard for human life for less important issues undermines any issue he could address. His mind is literally toxic.
Clearly white people aren't human. What a jackass.
I'm also about 80% certain he's a straight white guy with lots of guilt
Quote from: Cramulus on April 09, 2014, 04:48:15 PM
I'm also about 80% certain he's a straight white guy with lots of guilt
Or just playing tourist.