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Wow, that has to be the ultimate "Curate's Egg".
4. WAT.
5. Cannabis is not homeopathic. Also, Wat.
6. What? What mean Speak Truth to Power?
Now I'm pissed that i actually do 2 and 8.
"Speak Truth to Power" is one of those tired, cliched phrases beloved of lefties, libertarians and conspiracy theorists everywhere. They love it, because it aggrandizes their beliefs ("truth") and their role ("plucky outsider telling "Power" how it is").
It was actually coined by Quakers, who I can somewhat respect, Richard Nixon aside, since they have a long history of principled pacifism, opposition to slavery and similar.
The irony of course being, that Power defines Truth.
Balls.
F=ma
That's true, regardless of who's in Power.
My diabetic sister might disagree with at least one of those. But then again, you know what they say about diabetics...
Oh FFS.
POLITICAL DARWINISM.
This is a group that has found a way to make themselves powerless without making themselves invisible. Which seems to me to be a fatal mutation.
Reading 1-3, I was like "ok, this isn't so bad" - even if 3 is nearly impossible, steps toward it are at least fine enough. Then 4 :roll: Not that I'm for mutilating children, but it's obvious why that's there.
And I like potted up as much as the next guy, and am all for research into the benefits of medical marijuana, but I really can't stand the "ALL doctors and prescriptions are evil! Weed cures all!"
In the same way that I have an interest in the "paranormal" and what have you, but then people are like "OH, so you must like that Ghost Hunters show" and I want to stab myself in the eye
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on April 24, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
Reading 1-3, I was like "ok, this isn't so bad" - even if 3 is nearly impossible, steps toward it are at least fine enough. Then 4 :roll: Not that I'm for mutilating children, but it's obvious why that's there.
And I like potted up as much as the next guy, and am all for research into the benefits of medical marijuana, but I really can't stand the "ALL doctors and prescriptions are evil! Weed cures all!"
In the same way that I have an interest in the "paranormal" and what have you, but then people are like "OH, so you must like that Ghost Hunters show" and I want to stab myself in the eye
THIS IS HOW THEY FUCK YOU.Everything out of the ordinary is blown so far out of proportion that it's cringetastic to look at. Everything weird is made stupid. Every question about modern medicine or corporate practices is turned into some hippie raving. Concerns about Monsanto, etc, are morphed into some weird Terrence-McKenna-more-stoned-than-usual "FARM YE OLDE EARTH" assbaggery.
So soon, you stop questioning anything, because a false dichotomy has been established, and THE alternative to the status quo is dumb fucking flower child bullshit. It occurs to me that I have fallen for this trap myself.
I was pretty sure that this is a fairly clever troll. Then I thought about Poe, and had a sad.
What if you raise your own chickens and then use their eggs to produce your own vaccines? No big-pharma, no evil, no problem...right?
Which reminds me, Hey Nigel, when you're flush with eggs again...
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on April 24, 2014, 06:10:31 PM
What if you raise your own chickens and then use their eggs to produce your own vaccines? No big-pharma, no evil, no problem...right?
Which reminds me, Hey Nigel, when you're flush with eggs again...
Sadly, I only have 4 hens left and only 2 of them seem to be laying, so I have to make the decision whether to obtain more chickens or whether to call it good and let them slowly fade away.
The part about not vaccinating or medicating kids really gets to me. These are the people who just let their kids die of preventable/curable diseases and then pretend it wasn't their fault.
Quote from: Nigel on April 24, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
The part about not vaccinating or medicating kids really gets to me. These are the people who just let their kids die of preventable/curable diseases and then pretend it wasn't their fault.
Interesting thing, I saw some people interviewed whose kids were not vaccinated and have gotten sick in the last round of measles, and they have expressed more of a "I didn't think that could actually happen anymore" attitude.
Which implies they were not vaccinating for social approval reasons, not bad signal.
I can't decide which is worse.
Quote from: Nigel on April 24, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on April 24, 2014, 06:10:31 PM
What if you raise your own chickens and then use their eggs to produce your own vaccines? No big-pharma, no evil, no problem...right?
Which reminds me, Hey Nigel, when you're flush with eggs again...
Sadly, I only have 4 hens left and only 2 of them seem to be laying, so I have to make the decision whether to obtain more chickens or whether to call it good and let them slowly fade away.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 24, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on April 24, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
Reading 1-3, I was like "ok, this isn't so bad" - even if 3 is nearly impossible, steps toward it are at least fine enough. Then 4 :roll: Not that I'm for mutilating children, but it's obvious why that's there.
And I like potted up as much as the next guy, and am all for research into the benefits of medical marijuana, but I really can't stand the "ALL doctors and prescriptions are evil! Weed cures all!"
In the same way that I have an interest in the "paranormal" and what have you, but then people are like "OH, so you must like that Ghost Hunters show" and I want to stab myself in the eye
THIS IS HOW THEY FUCK YOU.
Everything out of the ordinary is blown so far out of proportion that it's cringetastic to look at. Everything weird is made stupid. Every question about modern medicine or corporate practices is turned into some hippie raving. Concerns about Monsanto, etc, are morphed into some weird Terrence-McKenna-more-stoned-than-usual "FARM YE OLDE EARTH" assbaggery.
So soon, you stop questioning anything, because a false dichotomy has been established, and THE alternative to the status quo is dumb fucking flower child bullshit. It occurs to me that I have fallen for this trap myself.
This is pretty sneaky...this false dichotomy thing. Time to go back and reevaluate my views (again). It's been awhile anyway.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 24, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Balls.
F=ma
That's true, regardless of who's in Power.
No, that's a fact.
All facts may be true, but not all truths are facts.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 24, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 24, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
The part about not vaccinating or medicating kids really gets to me. These are the people who just let their kids die of preventable/curable diseases and then pretend it wasn't their fault.
Interesting thing, I saw some people interviewed whose kids were not vaccinated and have gotten sick in the last round of measles, and they have expressed more of a "I didn't think that could actually happen anymore" attitude.
Which implies they were not vaccinating for social approval reasons, not bad signal.
I can't decide which is worse.
It's still bad signal, just a different bad signal.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 24, 2014, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on April 24, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
Reading 1-3, I was like "ok, this isn't so bad" - even if 3 is nearly impossible, steps toward it are at least fine enough. Then 4 :roll: Not that I'm for mutilating children, but it's obvious why that's there.
And I like potted up as much as the next guy, and am all for research into the benefits of medical marijuana, but I really can't stand the "ALL doctors and prescriptions are evil! Weed cures all!"
In the same way that I have an interest in the "paranormal" and what have you, but then people are like "OH, so you must like that Ghost Hunters show" and I want to stab myself in the eye
THIS IS HOW THEY FUCK YOU.
Everything out of the ordinary is blown so far out of proportion that it's cringetastic to look at. Everything weird is made stupid. Every question about modern medicine or corporate practices is turned into some hippie raving. Concerns about Monsanto, etc, are morphed into some weird Terrence-McKenna-more-stoned-than-usual "FARM YE OLDE EARTH" assbaggery.
So soon, you stop questioning anything, because a false dichotomy has been established, and THE alternative to the status quo is dumb fucking flower child bullshit. It occurs to me that I have fallen for this trap myself.
I can usually keep this at bay with my 99%-fuckheads theory. I'm not claiming this is accurate or anything but if I examine anything through the lense that 99% of the supporters are probably braindead idiots, it makes it easier for me to judge it objectively.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 25, 2014, 01:52:24 AM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 24, 2014, 02:55:26 PM
Balls.
F=ma
That's true, regardless of who's in Power.
No, that's a fact.
All facts may be true, but not all truths are facts.
I'll give you that, but even so:
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 24, 2014, 02:52:27 PM
The irony of course being, that Power defines Truth.
Is balls.
Is it? From what I see, those in power are able to define the truth to a relatively large degree.
There are two forms of truth - objective and subjective, the latter can be, and quite often is, both not true and influence by power. The former is still true but zen applies - if a truth exists and nobody is there to perceive it, is it still true?
See Junk, you were talking in absolutes, now you're talking in relative terms.
Oh, look, semantics! I'll be in the corner. By the stairs.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 25, 2014, 01:54:04 PM
See Junk, you were talking in absolutes, now you're talking in relative terms.
Oh, look, semantics! I'll be in the corner. By the stairs.
Good point, well made.
Bastard.
Quote from: The Right Reverend Nigel on April 25, 2014, 03:09:39 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 24, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: Nigel on April 24, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
The part about not vaccinating or medicating kids really gets to me. These are the people who just let their kids die of preventable/curable diseases and then pretend it wasn't their fault.
Interesting thing, I saw some people interviewed whose kids were not vaccinated and have gotten sick in the last round of measles, and they have expressed more of a "I didn't think that could actually happen anymore" attitude.
Which implies they were not vaccinating for social approval reasons, not bad signal.
I can't decide which is worse.
It's still bad signal, just a different bad signal.
I just finished this exhausting "debate" with an anti-vaxer on FB. A PhD in Clinical Psychology no less (I found out what her specialty was from the google, because curiously she touted herself as a "working scientist" and "clinician" studiously not mentioning that nothing she did had anything to do with to discipline we were discussing). One of the 80+ claims she laid out (horrible Gish Gallop) was that a person is more likely to have a bad reaction to a vaccination than they are to get the disease they are being vaccinated against...
PhD...working scientist...clinician...doesn't know how variables do.
Well, clinical psychologists don't necessarily have a hard science background at all. I mean, one of the therapeutic branches of clinical psychology is the postmodern one:
Quote from: WikipediaPostmodern psychology says that the experience of reality is a subjective construction built upon language, social context, and history, with no essential truths.[65] Since "mental illness" and "mental health" are not recognized as objective, definable realities, the postmodern psychologist instead sees the goal of therapy strictly as something constructed by the client and therapist
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
Well, clinical psychologists don't necessarily have a hard science background at all. I mean, one of the therapeutic branches of clinical psychology is the postmodern one:
Quote from: WikipediaPostmodern psychology says that the experience of reality is a subjective construction built upon language, social context, and history, with no essential truths.[65] Since "mental illness" and "mental health" are not recognized as objective, definable realities, the postmodern psychologist instead sees the goal of therapy strictly as something constructed by the client and therapist
She said she was a working scientist, Cain! This was not an appeal to authority, because she said she's just throwing information out there for free thinkers to consider. That's why it was important for her to point out that she's a working scientist...and a clinician...because you shouldn't just uncritically take her word for it...her working.scientist.word....clinician.
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 07, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
Well, clinical psychologists don't necessarily have a hard science background at all. I mean, one of the therapeutic branches of clinical psychology is the postmodern one:
Quote from: WikipediaPostmodern psychology says that the experience of reality is a subjective construction built upon language, social context, and history, with no essential truths.[65] Since "mental illness" and "mental health" are not recognized as objective, definable realities, the postmodern psychologist instead sees the goal of therapy strictly as something constructed by the client and therapist
She said she was a working scientist, Cain! This was not an appeal to authority, because she said she's just throwing information out there for free thinkers to consider. That's why it was important for her to point out that she's a working scientist...and a clinician...because you shouldn't just uncritically take her word for it...her working.scientist.word....clinician.
:lulz:
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 07, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
Well, clinical psychologists don't necessarily have a hard science background at all. I mean, one of the therapeutic branches of clinical psychology is the postmodern one:
Quote from: WikipediaPostmodern psychology says that the experience of reality is a subjective construction built upon language, social context, and history, with no essential truths.[65] Since "mental illness" and "mental health" are not recognized as objective, definable realities, the postmodern psychologist instead sees the goal of therapy strictly as something constructed by the client and therapist
She said she was a working scientist, Cain! This was not an appeal to authority, because she said she's just throwing information out there for free thinkers to consider. That's why it was important for her to point out that she's a working scientist...and a clinician...because you shouldn't just uncritically take her word for it...her working.scientist.word....clinician.
:lulz:
Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on July 07, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 07, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
Well, clinical psychologists don't necessarily have a hard science background at all. I mean, one of the therapeutic branches of clinical psychology is the postmodern one:
Quote from: WikipediaPostmodern psychology says that the experience of reality is a subjective construction built upon language, social context, and history, with no essential truths.[65] Since "mental illness" and "mental health" are not recognized as objective, definable realities, the postmodern psychologist instead sees the goal of therapy strictly as something constructed by the client and therapist
She said she was a working scientist, Cain! This was not an appeal to authority, because she said she's just throwing information out there for free thinkers to consider. That's why it was important for her to point out that she's a working scientist...and a clinician...because you shouldn't just uncritically take her word for it...her working.scientist.word....clinician.
It saddens me to see colleagues that dont understand that subjectivity ends... WHERE THE BARSTOOL BEGINS!
:barstool: