So, let's just say the dominant ideologues out there aren't flipping your wig. You say it's because you think the parties are the same, equally corrupt, etc, and that you'd like to see a 3rd party. In reality, of course, most of what you're really saying is "look at meeeeee, sheeple!"
A couple of points of order:
1. Everyone thinks they are the sole conscious human in world full of "sheeple". This is the same sort of egomania that makes people think they are the Main Character. In both cases, everyone is WRONG.
2. Everyone assumes that a 3rd party would be the one that represents their interests. Again, not going to happen, both because the people hollering about it are crazier than a shit house rat, and because any party with a high enough profile to get elected has already been bought and sold by the same people that own the existing parties. Given that, why would "They" pay for three parties when you get the illusion of choice with two? You will notice that the Green Party and the Reform Party myteriously flew to pieces when they become large enought to show up on the ballot.
Not that either of these points will stop or even slow down your average libertarian. This is because the average libertarian has no motives in actually being successful in raising a party. No, the average libertarian is out to score with chicks, and can't figure out why it isn't working, no matter how much he talks about Going Galt. (Hint: It's because being a radical only works on women if you're a radical leftist, and only then for a very narrow window. Radical rightists are boring.)
For the rest of us, of course, this state of affairs is hilarious. Is there anything funnier than a man making a great big show of reading Atlas Shrugged at Starbucks, quite obviously wondering why none of the women in the shop have chatted him up?
But the funniest thing about 3rd party people is that they invariably turn into conspiracy freaks. Chemtrails, HAARP, 911 Truthers, FEMA camps, etc. I think this has to do with the fact that when you make yourself believe one great whacking lie (the existence of a "free market", etc), it's suddenly easier to believe just about anything. So you go to parties and tell everyone about the danger they're in, until it gradually dawns on you one day that none of your friends seem to throw parties anymore. Silly sheeple.
From there, it's usually an alcohol-fueled ride to Crazytown, population YOU.
I gotta say, it must be rough, living in a universe in which your flawless ideology, whether that be communism or unrestrained capitalism, doesn't work even though it makes perfect sense to you, and OUGHT TO WORK and WOULD work, if only people weren't such sheeple.
But it doesn't work, does it? And yet here you are, trying to explain to it people for the umpteenth time.
Rinse, repeat.
I get some fun out of asking people like that what they think would happen if some third party candidate did the impossible and got elected president, when it's 1 against 535, not counting the Supreme Court. Do they really think anything substantative would get done? I mean, they pretty much shut down Obama, a middle-right Democrat; and for a while there, the Dems even had a majority! There aren't enough Executive Signing Statements in the world.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 30, 2014, 04:00:49 PM
I get some fun out of asking people like that what they think would happen if some third party candidate did the impossible and got elected president, when it's 1 against 535, not counting the Supreme Court. Do they really think anything substantative would get done? I mean, they pretty much shut down Obama, a middle-right Democrat; and for a while there, the Dems even had a majority! There aren't enough Executive Signing Statements in the world.
Yeah, in a similar vein, I ask them whether Ron Paul would announce himself dictator or something, because it isn't like either house would give him the time of day.
QuoteFor the rest of us, of course, this state of affairs is hilarious. Is there anything funnier than a man making a great big show of reading Atlas Shrugged at Starbucks, quite obviously wondering why none of the women in the shop have chatted him up?
Point of order, there IS something funnier than this. It's when you see a group in a similar place with equally "intellectual" books all pissing, moaning and spouting PUA shit. Then watching one of them be shamed into talking into a woman and failing at the basics of social interactions. Groups are usually between 3-5 large, one will be wearing an attention seeking hat or carrying something equally obnoxious trying to draw attention to themselves.
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 30, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
QuoteFor the rest of us, of course, this state of affairs is hilarious. Is there anything funnier than a man making a great big show of reading Atlas Shrugged at Starbucks, quite obviously wondering why none of the women in the shop have chatted him up?
Point of order, there IS something funnier than this. It's when you see a group in a similar place with equally "intellectual" books all pissing, moaning and spouting PUA shit. Then watching one of them be shamed into talking into a woman and failing at the basics of social interactions. Groups are usually between 3-5 large, one will be wearing an attention seeking hat or carrying something equally obnoxious trying to draw attention to themselves.
My thing is, I actively fuck with those guys. I am too old for the club, so my opportunities for doing so are limited, but when one does come along, I do my best to make them miserable.
Usually by mocking their hat.
Did someone say something about hats?
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2014, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 30, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
QuoteFor the rest of us, of course, this state of affairs is hilarious. Is there anything funnier than a man making a great big show of reading Atlas Shrugged at Starbucks, quite obviously wondering why none of the women in the shop have chatted him up?
Point of order, there IS something funnier than this. It's when you see a group in a similar place with equally "intellectual" books all pissing, moaning and spouting PUA shit. Then watching one of them be shamed into talking into a woman and failing at the basics of social interactions. Groups are usually between 3-5 large, one will be wearing an attention seeking hat or carrying something equally obnoxious trying to draw attention to themselves.
My thing is, I actively fuck with those guys. I am too old for the club, so my opportunities for doing so are limited, but when one does come along, I do my best to make them miserable.
Usually by mocking their hat.
"The Interception"
approach the PUA's target female, introduce yourself, explain that you're happily married and you've noticed some PUA's sighting her up. Would she like to fuck with them?
If the response is affirmative, tell her to giggle, and touch her ear, then take out your mobile and pretend you're typing in her number. Walk away and drop your best "easy meat" wink in the direction of the PUA's
I figure, the older and uglier I get the more inadequate they feel :evil:
I just want to say that I'm really digging this series so far.
Almost enough to make me forget about how badly I've been jonesing for more LDW.
Almost.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on April 30, 2014, 06:10:23 PM
I just want to say that I'm really digging this series so far.
Almost enough to make me forget about how badly I've been jonesing for more LDW.
Almost.
LDW isn't a dead issue. It's just stuck. When it becomes unstuck, I will add to it. I need to be in the right frame of mind for that story.
Oh, I wasn't trying to push you. Just letting you know that it was enjoyed THAT much.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 30, 2014, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on April 30, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
QuoteFor the rest of us, of course, this state of affairs is hilarious. Is there anything funnier than a man making a great big show of reading Atlas Shrugged at Starbucks, quite obviously wondering why none of the women in the shop have chatted him up?
Point of order, there IS something funnier than this. It's when you see a group in a similar place with equally "intellectual" books all pissing, moaning and spouting PUA shit. Then watching one of them be shamed into talking into a woman and failing at the basics of social interactions. Groups are usually between 3-5 large, one will be wearing an attention seeking hat or carrying something equally obnoxious trying to draw attention to themselves.
My thing is, I actively fuck with those guys. I am too old for the club, so my opportunities for doing so are limited, but when one does come along, I do my best to make them miserable.
Usually by mocking their hat.
Oh, naturally. Fucking with them is one of the many joys I now take as a horrible old man. My standard shtick is something like this:
Get near enough to overhear conversation. Start laughing quietly. Whenever something stupid gets said, raise the volume. Not much, just a couple of decibels. Repeat until you're at a decent volume and attracting the attention of them or others. This is when you can start to indicate you're laughing at them. Pointing helps. Get as theatrical as you like depending on how appalling they are as humans. After about 20/30 seconds, you can then commence TELLING THEM WHAT based around their conversation. It's always nice to include something along the lines of "Do you actually think you will ever have sex with that attitude?"
SATISFACTION GUARANTEED OR YOUR MONEY BACK.
:lol: This whole thread is excellent.
THIS IS EVERYTHING I HAVE BEEN ARGUING ABOUT FOR THE LAST WEEK.