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Principia Discordia => Techmology and Scientism => Topic started by: Pæs on June 19, 2014, 07:36:22 AM

Title: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Pæs on June 19, 2014, 07:36:22 AM
1) What is Yo?

Yo is a mobile messaging app available for iOS and Android devices. You establish a username. Then a friend who also uses Yo can select your username inside his app and you will receive a push notification reading: "Yo" and featuring audio of a voice stating "Yo."

2) That's it?

Yes.

3) Is this a joke?

No. Yo is very real, I have downloaded it myself and Yo-ed with Vox.com senior UX developer Yuri Victor. According to the Financial Times the company recently raised $1 million in venture capital.

4) A million dollars?

Yep.

5) What are some non-app uses of Yo?

Yo is a popular informal English-language greeting. It's also the title of a Chris Brown song:

6) Who is behind Yo?

Yo is the brainchild of Or Arbel, a former iOS developer at the image-sharing company Mobli. Arbel had left Mobli to work on a not-yet-released product called Stox. Arbel's former boss at Mobli, Moshe Hogeg, asked Arbel to "to make an app with one big button that could call his assistant without having to pick up the phone or compose a text message." Arbel initially refused, pleading a lack of time, but then hit upon the idea of switching the conceit up slightly to the brief greeting that is now the app's namesake. The $1 million investment comes from Hogeg's angel investment fund.

7) Are people using Yo?

According to Tim Bradshaw, as of the end of June 17 "50,000 users have now signed up to Yo and sent a total of 4m messages — 2m of which were in the last month." Bradshaw's article has spurred considerable additional interest in the app so the numbers are surely much higher than that today.

8) Has the world gone entirely mad?

Perhaps. People have been looking for a new tech bubble for years long before there was any evidence of one, and now we have some real evidence — see Judd Legum for the case. Totally ridiculous novelty companies attracting seven figure investments. The smartphone product category in general was badly overestimated during the first couple of years of Apple's iPhone, and a range of smartphone app categories (gaming, messaging, etc.) have also badly outperformed the conventional wisdom. When that happens, the conventional wisdom tends to recalibrate. And now you have people investing a million bucks in an app that just sends "yo" to people.

In a non-novelty context, the idea is that people may want to sign up for ultra-simple notifications. If you add the user WORLDCUP on Yo, it will notify you every time a team scores a goal. Then you can make sure to look up and catch the replay. Arbel says he's hoping to commercialize Yo by turning it into a platform for companies to alert people to when they're running sales. Here's the Yo API for developers:

Some example use cases:

— A blog can Yo the readers whenever a new post is published. Imagine getting a Yo From PRODUCTHUNT.
— An online store can Yo its customers whenever a new product is offered. Imagine getting a Yo From JENNASHOPIFY.
— A football club can Yo the fans whenever the team scores a touchdown. Imagine getting a Yo From THE49ERS.
— An ice-cream truck can Yo the kids when it's around the corner.... Imagine getting a Yo From THEICECREAMTRUCK.

Keep in mind each service can only Yo its subscribers once per day and they can unsubscribe at anytime

9) That's the plan?

Apparently. You should probably think of this as a general illustration of the principle that investing in early-stage startups is not really a rational act. Hogeg has the money to spare (apparently), has a relationship with Arbel, probably enjoys this media attention, and stands at least a sliver of a chance of somehow making this investment pay off. So why not?
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 19, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Junkenstein on June 19, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
Oh fuck, this actually appears to be a real thing!

It's probably not even the stupidest thing you could throw cash at either which just makes it even funnier.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Raz Tech on June 19, 2014, 05:17:21 PM
As an aside, some of the reviews for this app are hilarious.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cramulus on June 19, 2014, 06:11:28 PM
In the Beginning
there was Chaos,
the vast immeasurable abyss,
Outrageous as a sea,
dark, wasteful, wild.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 19, 2014, 10:05:06 PM
Did no one learn anything from the dotcom bust? ... people?... learn?... okay forget I said anything  :lulz:
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on June 19, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on June 19, 2014, 10:05:06 PM
Did no one learn anything from the dotcom bust? ... people?... learn?... okay forget I said anything  :lulz:

The dotcom bubble only burst because it relied on fiat currency. With the power of bitcoin its a straight shot from here to the singularity.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Pæs on June 19, 2014, 10:30:48 PM
Maybe this thing is still young enough that I can take over the contextual notification space with a HODOR app.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Junkenstein on June 20, 2014, 08:49:19 AM
That would be awesome.

In fact, getting a "HODOR" when a new game of thrones is about to air would also be quite amusing. There's certainly potential here for some things. If you can flip the app for a quick few million, why the fuck not?

http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=OBR&date=20140612&id=17694864

Especially as 140 letters seems to be losing it's appeal.

Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cain on June 20, 2014, 02:56:59 PM
I would only buy a Hodor app with dogecoins.  Because, y'know, internet.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Junkenstein on June 20, 2014, 03:12:59 PM
You would.

The world is built on people buying tat exactly like this. I'm predicting success as soon as you can send/customise your own word.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: P3nT4gR4m on June 20, 2014, 03:40:25 PM
It's the penultimate evolution of Twitter. The ultimate evolution being the ability to send a single character.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Junkenstein on June 20, 2014, 03:41:18 PM
!
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cramulus on June 20, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
Alright I signed up for Yo

This is the dumbest app ever, and it's hysterical

I was blasting my girlfriend with Yo's until she took away my phone

It has that "oh my god this is so dumb I immediately have to sign up and tell 10 friends" kind of feeling that I had when somebody told me about Myspace in 2003. They were like "IT'S A SITE WHERE WE CAN BE FRIENDS. NOT LIKE THE REAL WORLD, LIKE INTERNET FRIENDS. AND WHEN I POST PICTURES OF MY FACE YOU CAN COMMENT ON THEM"

at the time, we laughed, because that sounded stupid as fuck. It would never work!



Okay so my Yo name is "CRAMULUS". I expect all of you assholes to download Yo and Yo me immediately.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Junkenstein on June 20, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
The only thing stopping me from getting this right now is how badly I abused the "Mr. T in your pocket". Junkenwife nearly beat me to death with my own shins because of how much and often I pitied fools.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 20, 2014, 04:04:53 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on June 20, 2014, 03:41:55 PM
Alright I signed up for Yo

This is the dumbest app ever, and it's hysterical

I was blasting my girlfriend with Yo's until she took away my phone

It has that "oh my god this is so dumb I immediately have to sign up and tell 10 friends" kind of feeling that I had when somebody told me about Myspace in 2003. They were like "IT'S A SITE WHERE WE CAN BE FRIENDS. NOT LIKE THE REAL WORLD, LIKE INTERNET FRIENDS. AND WHEN I POST PICTURES OF MY FACE YOU CAN COMMENT ON THEM"

at the time, we laughed, because that sounded stupid as fuck. It would never work!



Okay so my Yo name is "CRAMULUS". I expect all of you assholes to download Yo and Yo me immediately.

I, also, downloaded Yo. My friends are going to kill me. I view it as revenge for Twitter.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cramulus on June 20, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
TWITTER = OVER
FACEBOOK = OVER
TUMBLR = OVER
MYSPACE = OVER
WIKIPEDIA = OVER

ALL MADE REDUNDANT BY YO APP



my coworkers have gotta be getting pretty pissed at this point. My phone won't stop Yo'ing. Whatever, fuck them.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: LMNO on June 20, 2014, 06:00:17 PM
You're a crazy asshole, and that's why I love you.


I don't know how, but you've made the dumbest app in the world actually sound appealing.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Sita on June 20, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
The app has been hacked already: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459816,00.asp
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 21, 2014, 12:54:22 AM
Awwww
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: LMNO on June 21, 2014, 05:04:06 PM
Yeah, but the hack made it so instead of "Yo", it looped Rick Astley.  :lol:
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Reginald Ret on June 21, 2014, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Sita on June 20, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
The app has been hacked already: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459816,00.asp
Oh man, this is impressive!

Is this a generic weakness in apps or is it just that the makers of Yo decided that support for anything other than text and soundfiles would be a good idea?
No wait, I just realised that access to teh code would allow you to do anything with this that any other app could.
I has teh dumb, its a good thing i don't have a smartphone i would make every stupid mistake there is.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cramulus on June 23, 2014, 01:34:39 PM
WHOEVER MADE MY PHONE SAY "YO" x 10
AT 4 IN THE MORNING


TOUCHE
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Junkenstein on June 23, 2014, 06:12:22 PM
 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

BEST INVENTION THIS YEAR.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: LMNO on June 23, 2014, 08:46:59 PM
DATA BREACH.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-joke-is-on-yo-and-all-its-users/
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Raz Tech on June 23, 2014, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: The American Conservative
Yo is what happens when a creative economy spirals so far into self-parody that such distinctions are forgotten, and it takes the most absurd of reminders to reinforce them.

I've got that reminder right here: Yo
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 24, 2014, 12:02:09 AM
Between Yo and the tickle-fetish conspiracy, I am loving the way the 21st century is shaping up.
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cramulus on June 24, 2014, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on June 23, 2014, 08:46:59 PM
DATA BREACH.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-joke-is-on-yo-and-all-its-users/

from the article:
QuoteThe culture that produced Yo is grappling with what Nathan Jurgenson has called "digital dualism," the idea that "online" and "offline," "physical" and "digital," are meaningful and separate categories that can be mapped onto different parts of life. Yo is what happens when a creative economy spirals so far into self-parody that such distinctions are forgotten, and it takes the most absurd of reminders to reinforce them.

that's apt
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: Cain on July 11, 2014, 04:21:49 PM
And people say Yo (http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/07/10/history_s_most_pointless_app_will_tell_you_about_rocket_strikes_in_israel) is pointless:

QuoteThe popular mobile app "Yo" has been described as the most pointless tech start-up to recently receive major funding. The idea is like a parody of post-modern life: An app for "post-text" communication that does nothing but send the message "yo" to your friends. That's it -- and it has $1 million in funding. Now, it's been reimagined as a tool in Israel's war against Hamas.

Developed by Israeli coders, Red Alert complements the army's warning sirens that alerts Israelis to incoming rockets. Now, Red Alert has partnered with Yo to send "yo"s anytime a siren sounds in Israel. The idea is to use this form of "post-text" communication to keep users informed of events around Israel. Each time a rocket triggers the system, you get a "yo"
Title: Re: Startup Culture's Final Form?
Post by: trix on July 11, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
Edited to undo the stupid threadjack.
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