Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Think for Yourself, Schmuck! => Topic started by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 04:19:11 PM

Title: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
As has been amply demonstrated over the last decade or so, most "discordians" are assholes.  They don't get it.  They miss the point.  From the long-lost days of the Myspace Discordians, to the cheerfully sociopathic arse biscuits on Facebook, Discordianism is basically the last excuse for assholes.  What's more, they feel that they must band together under the fart blanket, to see who can be the worst example of a human being.  If you try to reason with them, then you're doing it wrong, and they will attempt to doorstep you, or make you think they will.

This sort of thing is why "discordian" is a label I no longer apply to myself.  I don't need the label...I am what I am.  If much of what I am fits our definition of discordianism, okay...But I am more than that.  Some of what I am fits the definition of a subgenius.  But I am more than that, as well.  So I no longer identify as either.

A few weeks ago, I got mad because I caught a ration of shit after blocking a racist.  I undid the block.  Other shit happened, and the racist was gone anyway, but I was furious because PD wasn't being MY discordia.  I also spent more than a decade writing here, and often got pissed when something I had enjoyed writing sank off the page like Brittany Spears' career.  Again, I was mad because it wasn't MY discordia, and it didn't bring me the validation I craved.

Then it was pointed out to me that a lot of this was in fact based on said validation, even to the point of doing things for people that hate me.  So much for being a biped, right?  Well, nobody is expected to start out knowing everything, and even an old dog can learn new tricks.

So I do my discordia on my own, these days.  I've dropped out of the local cabals, and have in fact found that I can have a lot more fun on my own, when it comes to shoveling sand into the gearbox.  Or fixing the gearbox.  Whichever strikes my fancy on any given day.  Hell, 10 years ago I said that if you were doing it for the admiration of your peers, you were doing it wrong, and then it turns out I was doing that very thing all along.

What I need to do is get back to basics.  I don't see the need to start a multi-generational war over a snub, because that's Eris's thing, not mine.  I don't, however, see the need to perform like a circus monkey for people who hate me.  In fact, my subgenius side tells me to ramp it up and hate those people more.  Maybe I will, I don't know.  But I'm certainly not sticking my neck out for them, or writing for them ("I don't like you, but I like your writing.  Sometimes."), or associating with them, simply because life is too short. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, and I'd hate to think I would go to my maker having not hated the people who hated on me.

Discordians tend to be the most interesting people I know.  This is not to be confused with the healthiest people I know.  I love reading Hunter S Thompson, for example, but I doubt I'd have enjoyed spending 6 months with him.

So I'm flying solo, these days.  It's not for everyone, but it DOES have the added advantage of not getting poop all over your shoes when a "discordian" starts jabbering racist nonsense or starts making threats because you're doing it wrong.  I would say "you don't have to hang out with sociopaths", but the fact is that most of the people involved in all of these things DO believe people are real.  They just don't believe YOU are real.  And because of that, you have to treat them as sociopaths even though they aren't with respect to the rest of the world.

The days of the Cabal are over, I think.  Well, at least they are for me.


Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: LMNO on September 22, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
I strongly believe in what you've written, especially the first two paragraphs.  Exposure to the FB discordians has really challenged my assumptions as to where the Discordian Overton Window is open right now.

That is to say, while everyone has their own Discorida, there's a Gaussian curve that seems to peak with people I'm fairly sure I never want to associate myself with.

I can't say I'll stop self-identifying as Discordian (or, snobbishly, "Erisian"), but I'm waaaaaay more reluctant to speak about it in public.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on September 22, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
I strongly believe in what you've written, especially the first two paragraphs.  Exposure to the FB discordians has really challenged my assumptions as to where the Discordian Overton Window is open right now.

That is to say, while everyone has their own Discorida, there's a Gaussian curve that seems to peak with people I'm fairly sure I never want to associate myself with.

I can't say I'll stop self-identifying as Discordian (or, snobbishly, "Erisian"), but I'm waaaaaay more reluctant to speak about it in public.

Makes sense.  I'm just not identifying with it anymore, on account of it's supposed to be individualistic (cue:  YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG), and identifying with it means you start trying to classify it...And in doing so, classifying yourself.

Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 22, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Well said.

Presently, I would be very embarrassed if someone I knew looked up discordianism on Facebook, based on something I'd said.

And I agree with you Roger, discordianism now seems to me like the doorway to Chapel Perilous (apologies for using that reference).  A starting point, a jumping off point.  It seems to me it was intended as training wheels, in a sense.

I just call myself a bon vivant these days.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:11:40 PM

And I agree with you Roger, discordianism now seems to me like the doorway to Chapel Perilous (apologies for using that reference).  A starting point, a jumping off point.  It seems to me it was intended as training wheels, in a sense.


That is BANG ON what I was trying to say.  It was a good way to START thinking for myself, but sooner or later I had to ride on my own.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 22, 2014, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:11:40 PM

And I agree with you Roger, discordianism now seems to me like the doorway to Chapel Perilous (apologies for using that reference).  A starting point, a jumping off point.  It seems to me it was intended as training wheels, in a sense.


That is BANG ON what I was trying to say.  It was a good way to START thinking for myself, but sooner or later I had to ride on my own.

I can't imagine anything more "greyfaced" than calling someone a fucking greyface. 

The only way to do it wrong, is to do it at all.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:11:40 PM

And I agree with you Roger, discordianism now seems to me like the doorway to Chapel Perilous (apologies for using that reference).  A starting point, a jumping off point.  It seems to me it was intended as training wheels, in a sense.


That is BANG ON what I was trying to say.  It was a good way to START thinking for myself, but sooner or later I had to ride on my own.

I can't imagine anything more "greyfaced" than calling someone a fucking greyface. 

The only way to do it wrong, is to do it at all.

Well, the "greyface" thing is just another demonization of The Other.

It calls to mind people who run around laughing at "sheeple" because God knows THEY aren't sheeple.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 22, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Another variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Another variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Sure.  Humans are not really wired for the level of complexity/number of stressors to which we have subjected ourselves.  That's why we wobble off into weird shit like that.  I would be amazed if it weren't as common as it is; I am surprised that it is only as bad as it is.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 22, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Another variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Sure.  Humans are not really wired for the level of complexity/number of stressors to which we have subjected ourselves.  That's why we wobble off into weird shit like that.  I would be amazed if it weren't as common as it is; I am surprised that it is only as bad as it is.

That's what I tell people ALL the time: I am eternally shocked that we don't have Columbine-like shit going down every single day.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Another variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Sure.  Humans are not really wired for the level of complexity/number of stressors to which we have subjected ourselves.  That's why we wobble off into weird shit like that.  I would be amazed if it weren't as common as it is; I am surprised that it is only as bad as it is.

That's what I tell people ALL the time: I am eternally shocked that we don't have Columbine-like shit going down every single day.

There was some guy proposed the future as banal and horribly violent at the same time.  I'll look it up in my nook when I get home tonight.  It's worth a read.  He basically says that the sniper at the McDonalds will be viewed in the same manner as a traffic jam...A pain in the ass, not a horrorshow.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 22, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Another variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Sure.  Humans are not really wired for the level of complexity/number of stressors to which we have subjected ourselves.  That's why we wobble off into weird shit like that.  I would be amazed if it weren't as common as it is; I am surprised that it is only as bad as it is.

That's what I tell people ALL the time: I am eternally shocked that we don't have Columbine-like shit going down every single day.

There was some guy proposed the future as banal and horribly violent at the same time.  I'll look it up in my nook when I get home tonight.  It's worth a read.  He basically says that the sniper at the McDonalds will be viewed in the same manner as a traffic jam...A pain in the ass, not a horrorshow.

I would say we are more or less there already... some beautiful rich white celebs get their naked pics leaked online, and that's a much bigger outrage than journalists getting their heads sawed off.

Yes, I would be interested in reading that.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:29:09 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 08:25:21 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 22, 2014, 08:23:38 PM
Another variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Sure.  Humans are not really wired for the level of complexity/number of stressors to which we have subjected ourselves.  That's why we wobble off into weird shit like that.  I would be amazed if it weren't as common as it is; I am surprised that it is only as bad as it is.

That's what I tell people ALL the time: I am eternally shocked that we don't have Columbine-like shit going down every single day.

There was some guy proposed the future as banal and horribly violent at the same time.  I'll look it up in my nook when I get home tonight.  It's worth a read.  He basically says that the sniper at the McDonalds will be viewed in the same manner as a traffic jam...A pain in the ass, not a horrorshow.

I would say we are more or less there already... some beautiful rich white celebs get their naked pics leaked online, and that's a much bigger outrage than journalists getting their heads sawed off.

Yes, I would be interested in reading that.

I'll dig up the name of the author tonight, if I have time (we're moving on Friday, so...), and post it here.

If not today, then tomorrow for certain.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
Found it, Hoops:

http://zenarchery.com/full-text-of-the-grim-meathook-future-thing/

Josh Ellis.  He's written quite a bit about it, this is the tl;dr version.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 22, 2014, 10:41:17 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
Found it, Hoops:

http://zenarchery.com/full-text-of-the-grim-meathook-future-thing/

Josh Ellis.  He's written quite a bit about it, this is the tl;dr version.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: GlompChomp on September 23, 2014, 12:06:05 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 22, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
As has been amply demonstrated over the last decade or so, most "discordians" are assholes.  They don't get it.  They miss the point.  From the long-lost days of the Myspace Discordians, to the cheerfully sociopathic arse biscuits on Facebook, Discordianism is basically the last excuse for assholes.  What's more, they feel that they must band together under the fart blanket, to see who can be the worst example of a human being.  If you try to reason with them, then you're doing it wrong, and they will attempt to doorstep you, or make you think they will.

This sort of thing is why "discordian" is a label I no longer apply to myself.  I don't need the label...I am what I am.  If much of what I am fits our definition of discordianism, okay...But I am more than that.  Some of what I am fits the definition of a subgenius.  But I am more than that, as well.  So I no longer identify as either.

A few weeks ago, I got mad because I caught a ration of shit after blocking a racist.  I undid the block.  Other shit happened, and the racist was gone anyway, but I was furious because PD wasn't being MY discordia.  I also spent more than a decade writing here, and often got pissed when something I had enjoyed writing sank off the page like Brittany Spears' career.  Again, I was mad because it wasn't MY discordia, and it didn't bring me the validation I craved.

Then it was pointed out to me that a lot of this was in fact based on said validation, even to the point of doing things for people that hate me.  So much for being a biped, right?  Well, nobody is expected to start out knowing everything, and even an old dog can learn new tricks.

So I do my discordia on my own, these days.  I've dropped out of the local cabals, and have in fact found that I can have a lot more fun on my own, when it comes to shoveling sand into the gearbox.  Or fixing the gearbox.  Whichever strikes my fancy on any given day.  Hell, 10 years ago I said that if you were doing it for the admiration of your peers, you were doing it wrong, and then it turns out I was doing that very thing all along.

What I need to do is get back to basics.  I don't see the need to start a multi-generational war over a snub, because that's Eris's thing, not mine.  I don't, however, see the need to perform like a circus monkey for people who hate me.  In fact, my subgenius side tells me to ramp it up and hate those people more.  Maybe I will, I don't know.  But I'm certainly not sticking my neck out for them, or writing for them ("I don't like you, but I like your writing.  Sometimes."), or associating with them, simply because life is too short. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, and I'd hate to think I would go to my maker having not hated the people who hated on me.

Discordians tend to be the most interesting people I know.  This is not to be confused with the healthiest people I know.  I love reading Hunter S Thompson, for example, but I doubt I'd have enjoyed spending 6 months with him.

So I'm flying solo, these days.  It's not for everyone, but it DOES have the added advantage of not getting poop all over your shoes when a "discordian" starts jabbering racist nonsense or starts making threats because you're doing it wrong.  I would say "you don't have to hang out with sociopaths", but the fact is that most of the people involved in all of these things DO believe people are real.  They just don't believe YOU are real.  And because of that, you have to treat them as sociopaths even though they aren't with respect to the rest of the world.

The days of the Cabal are over, I think.  Well, at least they are for me.

tl;dr, my special, unique and perfect brand of Discordianism so abstracted it is basically narcissistic solipsism with whismy, which I have understood to be the best and most pure distillation of Discordian wisdom, is being usurped by people who actually enjoyed reading RAW's works therefore Discordianism is dead.

Hint for you, the reason people use the memes is because they get it too and want you to get what they're getting without having to be a sodden pedant.

Basically your mind isn't expanded enough as you think it is, which is kind of a Cardinal Sin of the religion isn't it.

Yeah.

Yeah it is.

You devil.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 23, 2014, 12:37:46 AM
Well, there goes my bet...
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 12:37:46 AM
Well, there goes my bet...

You must remember, I spent YEARS losing bets with Maria and Keelin.

I have become an expert on spotting a losing proposition.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
As far as asshole up there shit posting in my thread, it kind of proves my point to a degree I couldn't possibly manage on my own.

This is precisely the product that was ordered.  Why anyone would complain when it does EXACTLY what it says on the label is beyond me.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 23, 2014, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 12:37:46 AM
Well, there goes my bet...

You must remember, I spent YEARS losing bets with Maria and Keelin.

I have become an expert on spotting a losing proposition.

I polish my cynicism daily with Turtle Wax, and where does it get me?

Another day older and deeper in debt.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:19:46 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 12:37:46 AM
Well, there goes my bet...

You must remember, I spent YEARS losing bets with Maria and Keelin.

I have become an expert on spotting a losing proposition.

I polish my cynicism daily with Turtle Wax, and where does it get me?

Another day older and deeper in debt.

Well, here's the deal:  When we found a board that hated us but wouldn't ban us right away on principle, what happened?

Oh, yeah.  :lulz:  Swarm.

Why would anyone imagine that racists wouldn't congregate?  Hell, the asshole on TDS that's been hassling Nigel runs a white nationalist board somehow connected with Something Awful.  Do people not assume that the SAME methodology we used on Pagans wouldn't ever be used on us?

And nothing will change, because nobody here will bend, and they sure as FUCK won't do so if it means admitting I might have been right (and I have no intention of being the Big Person about this, ho ho ho, NO.  I will in fact put on stompy boots before I do my "I told you so" dance, after the way I was treated).  By this time 8 weeks from now, this place will BE TDS.

But at least Roger got shown how WRONG he is and what a NO GOOD SHIT he is.  :lulz:

Which is, after all, the important bit.

Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.

They do. My current favorite is weltschmerz.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.

They do. My current favorite is weltschmerz.

What are the Germans doing with French emotions?  Must be an Alsace Lorraine thing.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: hooplala on September 23, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.

They do. My current favorite is weltschmerz.

What are the Germans doing with French emotions?  Must be an Alsace Lorraine thing.

It's this goddam century, Roger.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:43:51 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.

They do. My current favorite is weltschmerz.

What are the Germans doing with French emotions?  Must be an Alsace Lorraine thing.

It's this goddam century, Roger.

This century is fucking AWESOME.  It's just that it's still contaminated with shit from 20C.  Like these racist assholes, for example.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: GlompChomp on September 23, 2014, 02:42:23 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:43:51 AM

This century is fucking AWESOME.  It's just that it's still contaminated with shit from 20C.  Like these racist assholes, for example.

Reptilians eat Pleaidian baby dicks in Nebula Hell.

Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: Ben Shapiro on September 23, 2014, 09:20:28 AM
I'm a bear not a doctor Jim, so I recommend 72 hrs of Punk Rock music the more it sounds like trash can lids banging on heads the better. I look forward to the TDS coming in. I hope they stay for a long while; the peanut gallery has been rather empty now that Reverend Kurt Cobain has moved on to stealing his kid's pot.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: Sita on September 23, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
This is why whenever asked about what label I fall under I tell them it's my own brand of insanity.
I'm a little this, a little that and at times maybe a bit of whatever is over there.

Being stuck in a box isn't really my thing. Which is something I've always known but am just now really coming to accept, and it's a bit scary quite honestly.
But at the same time I'm happier than when trying to fit some pre-made model.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on September 24, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:43:51 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.

They do. My current favorite is weltschmerz.

What are the Germans doing with French emotions?  Must be an Alsace Lorraine thing.

It's this goddam century, Roger.

This century is fucking AWESOME.  It's just that it's still contaminated with shit from 20C.  Like these racist assholes, for example.

I don't think TDS types are even actually racist as much as sad, dysfunctional fools who are just that desperate for attention and have grandiose ideas of their actual impact on people. It's posturing to be the Most Transgressive Discordian in the room, because transgressive = discordian, see.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 24, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
Quote from: N E T on September 24, 2014, 08:12:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:43:51 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 23, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Quote from: Hoopla on September 23, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
Don't you ever get sick of being right?

Not really.  I am an FMEA expert, after all.   :lulz:

I am not happy about what's happening to PD.  Hell, I helped found the place. 

But I would be lying through my teeth if I said there wasn't some serious schadenfreude going on, here.  Germans have the BEST emotions.

They do. My current favorite is weltschmerz.

What are the Germans doing with French emotions?  Must be an Alsace Lorraine thing.

It's this goddam century, Roger.

This century is fucking AWESOME.  It's just that it's still contaminated with shit from 20C.  Like these racist assholes, for example.

I don't think TDS types are even actually racist as much as sad, dysfunctional fools who are just that desperate for attention and have grandiose ideas of their actual impact on people. It's posturing to be the Most Transgressive Discordian in the room, because transgressive = discordian, see.

Doesn't matter how they got there.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 25, 2014, 06:47:32 AM
Dammit. I wrote a whole thing and it was thoughtful. There was even poetry and as I went to look something up in another window my phone ate it before I could post it.  :argh!:

TLDR enforced by TPTB:

I never have considered myself disco. More like Monotheist With Extras.
Discordianism is awesome, I would say essential, but not the whole thing for me.

Something artsy
Somthing artsy
About mistakes
Eris ate my homework

Roger you have influenced my thinking
By getting me to stop and think dammit.
You have my utmost respect for that. And I like you.
I sense an integrity rare and needed in the world.
Probably also what upsets you so deep down maybe.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 06:57:43 AM
Yknow what Reverend, I don't like you and you don't like me but I'm starting to agree with you, Discordianism is kind of impotent lately.

I think we all need to do a big online ritual to get the boogies out.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 25, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 06:57:43 AM
Yknow what Reverend, I don't like you and you don't like me but I'm starting to agree with you, Discordianism is kind of impotent lately.

I think we all need to do a big online ritual to get the boogies out.

SPEAKING AS AN ADMIN:

If I hadn't been previously outvoted (on a previous issue) by a 4-2 (1 abstaining) margin, I'd have gotten YOU out on your first post since your return.  The ritual is simple, and consists of hitting "admin", then "password", then "members" then "Ban member", then your name.

However, I have been told that blatant and virulent racism isn't a reason for banning someone.  So what would really fucking please me is for you to start spamming or image bombing, so I CAN get rid of your stupid ass (which, given the chance, I will do in a heartbeat)  Your racist shit isn't iconoclastic, it's TIRESOME and BORING and the very sight of your name in "new posts" depresses me.  You should leave.  Forever, this time.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 25, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
Quote from: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 06:57:43 AM
Yknow what Reverend, I don't like you and you don't like me but I'm starting to agree with you, Discordianism is kind of impotent lately.

I think we all need to do a big online ritual to get the boogies out.

I've only been back a few days and speaking as a guy with no authority here whatsoever: walk away from PD.cm and get professional help. For your sake. I've managed to read only precious little of your spam, but it's really bad. Spoiled spam. Spoiled asshole. If you are genuine then you sadden me. Much more likely you are obsessed trying to shock and annoy for revenge or attention and need to step away and get healthy.
I'm not kidding here. Think it over please.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 05:14:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 25, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 06:57:43 AM
Yknow what Reverend, I don't like you and you don't like me but I'm starting to agree with you, Discordianism is kind of impotent lately.

I think we all need to do a big online ritual to get the boogies out.

SPEAKING AS AN ADMIN:

If I hadn't been previously outvoted (on a previous issue) by a 4-2 (1 abstaining) margin, I'd have gotten YOU out on your first post since your return.  The ritual is simple, and consists of hitting "admin", then "password", then "members" then "Ban member", then your name.

However, I have been told that blatant and virulent racism isn't a reason for banning someone.  So what would really fucking please me is for you to start spamming or image bombing, so I CAN get rid of your stupid ass (which, given the chance, I will do in a heartbeat)  Your racist shit isn't iconoclastic, it's TIRESOME and BORING and the very sight of your name in "new posts" depresses me.  You should leave.  Forever, this time.

I'm here to stay, like herpes  :lulz:
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 25, 2014, 02:17:00 PM
Quote from: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 06:57:43 AM
Yknow what Reverend, I don't like you and you don't like me but I'm starting to agree with you, Discordianism is kind of impotent lately.

I think we all need to do a big online ritual to get the boogies out.

SPEAKING AS AN ADMIN:

If I hadn't been previously outvoted (on a previous issue) by a 4-2 (1 abstaining) margin, I'd have gotten YOU out on your first post since your return.  The ritual is simple, and consists of hitting "admin", then "password", then "members" then "Ban member", then your name.

However, I have been told that blatant and virulent racism isn't a reason for banning someone.  So what would really fucking please me is for you to start spamming or image bombing, so I CAN get rid of your stupid ass (which, given the chance, I will do in a heartbeat)  Your racist shit isn't iconoclastic, it's TIRESOME and BORING and the very sight of your name in "new posts" depresses me.  You should leave.  Forever, this time.

Look as far as I see it, there's no atoning with you folks. You would've enforced a zero tolerance policy anyway and can't seem to stop drinking your haterade  Frankly I'm not entirely impressed by the forum because of people such as yourself but now I'm staying mostly out of belligerence because as far as I can tell, you're WAY more upset by this than I am, so it's no skin off my back.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 25, 2014, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 05:18:30 PM
Look as far as I see it, there's no atoning with you folks.

You haven't even tried.
Title: Re: Discordia without Discordians
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 25, 2014, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: GlompChomp on September 25, 2014, 05:14:34 PM

I'm here to stay, like herpes  :lulz:

I'm okay with that.  I'm a "give the people what they want" kinda guy.