Boyd Bushman: 28+ patents while working for Lockheed-Martin, Hughes Aircraft, General Dynamics, and Texas Instruments. Here's a small selection of the actual tech he has designed. (SCIENCE!)
http://patent.ipexl.com/inventor/boyd_b_bushman_1.html
Quote15Boyd B Bushman: Heat radiation detection system. Lockheed Corporation June 27, 1995: US05428221 (4 worldwide citation)
A detection system will detect and identify self-propelled objects, such as missiles, which create a hot exhaust plume. The exhaust plume has radiation which modulates with a frequency range of interest. This frequency range can be detected with various detectors, such as an infrared detector, an ul ...
16Boyd B Bushman: Object detector. Lockheed Martin Corporation August 6, 1996: US05543917 (4 worldwide citation)
A method for detecting objects while eliminating unwanted background utilizes polarizing contrasts. A lens systems focuses light from the field of view through a beam splitter. One beam passes to a digitizer through a polarizer which polarizes the beam at one angle. The other beam is reflected to an ...
17Boyd B Bushman: Airfoil leading edge with cavity. Lockheed Martin Corporation November 17, 1998: US05836549 (4 worldwide citation)
A jet airplane capable of supersonic flight has airfoils with leading edges. Each leading edge has a cavity which extends for substantially the entire length of the airfoil. The leading edge also has a cover which is approximately the same size as the cavity. The cover has an open position and a clo ...
Ok, now we have context. So, just before he died, Boyed filmed this. I will leave it to you all to start the conversation on this video's claims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPfuZUEbhfc
You are posting a 33-minute video, and asking everyone else to watch it and start a conversation about it?
You're not even going to post a brief paragraph of your own thoughts, or a synopsis, or anything that might give us some indication of why you found it interesting or important and think we might, as well?
Still watching it between making breakfast. :) I caught a short segment on some internet conspiracy TV show where they flashed pictures of "aliens" and clips of Boyd talking about aircraft and Area 51. So I researched him a bit and then found the full video. Oh, and at about 3:45 he talks about his friend taking pictures of UFOs over Tuscon. Weird Shit.
To follow up on that... this guy definitely has the industry/power-structure connections to know spooks, but really doesn't seem like someone (from his work history) to fake evidence. It's really puzzling me.
transcript or gtfo
From what I gather without wasting half an hour of my life watching a video of an old man in terminal decline, Bushman was an engineer who became delusional in the last few years of his life. It's all the same stuff as all the other "I want to believe" people, accompanied by an appeal to authority.
http://web.randi.org/swift/bushmans-deathbed-confessions
Thanks Nigel!
YW!
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
a) huh. We don't. Let's just ask them for their used textbooks.
b) these particular ETs don't know how the whole craft is put together
>are we in secret diplomatic relations with their government?
-Yes
Why don't they send more of their Engineers to start up a lets tell the humans how to build our shit university program
-No
Um.... Is there a potentially important reason to bear in mind why they're going behind their government's back?
c) these particular ETs don't know how to fully communicate with us because they don't speak.
>But they have hands?
-Yes
>So.... write that shit down. If they can transcend the light barrier, writing English shouldn't be a problem
-No
>Ok, that might take some reverse engineering to make the interfaces compatible with our anatomy. Except they have hands....
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
Quote from: Sexy St. Nigel on November 01, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
It's all the same stuff as all the other "I want to believe" people, accompanied by an appeal to authority.
Well
this is that. There are pther ways these kinds of claims can start too.
Some of the urban legends about space aliens result from the military covering up something mundane and just enough information getting out for people's imaginations to run away from them. This is what happened in Roswell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mogul#Roswell_incident).
EDIT:
On a related note, personally I'm betting that Area 51 will eventually turn out to contain an illegal chemical weapons plant.
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
Let me get this straight.
You would expect the Enterprise to not have a Scotty and a back-up Scotty?
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 21, 2014, 01:05:03 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
Let me get this straight.
You would expect the Enterprise to not have a Scotty and a back-up Scotty?
More of a
City on the Edge of Forever, Spock trying to repair a tricorder with vacuum tubes type thing; but more so, I think he had an unrealistically easy time with that.
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
It's a completely valid point. An expensive craft that could be damaged and stranded in space? Even humans know not to do that. Anyone with interstellar travel is gonna be a lot smarter than we are, so yeah, they might not be able to build one from scratch but they're sure as hell going to have a comprehensive understanding of how to fix it. Every single crew member is likely to be trained to do every job on board.
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 02:14:21 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 21, 2014, 01:05:03 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
Let me get this straight.
You would expect the Enterprise to not have a Scotty and a back-up Scotty?
More of a City on the Edge of Forever, Spock trying to repair a tricorder with vacuum tubes type thing; but more so, I think he had an unrealistically easy time with that.
The Guardian isn't involved here. We're talking about crashed crafts. Crafts, plural.
Quote from: Sexy St. Nigel on November 21, 2014, 03:07:13 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
It's a completely valid point. An expensive craft that could be damaged and stranded in space? Even humans know not to do that. Anyone with interstellar travel is gonna be a lot smarter than we are, so yeah, they might not be able to build one from scratch but they're sure as hell going to have a comprehensive understanding of how to fix it. Every single crew member is likely to be trained to do every job on board.
If I was a big giant head, and I was sending a couple of dudes on a mission to a planet several light years away an knowing that even despite apparent ability to get around light speed something could go wrong, I would make damn sure if anything went wrong the crew was amply sizable and knowledgeable to fix it.
The most important parts about there being 18 extraterrestrials who are in the US government's pay is that:
-US dollars are meaningful to them
-they can't get back on their own
-Their government isn't in contact with us.
The latter of which is the most intriguing. Again, if I were a big giant head, I would go, right, you found my idiots pissing about in New Mexico. Sorry about that, let's open up diplomatic relations, now that you know I'm here, and can I please have my idiots back?
Quote from: Sexy St. Nigel on November 21, 2014, 03:07:13 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 21, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on November 05, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
I actually listened to the whole thing at work. And here's my thought:
Why would we need to employ 18 extraterrestrials to reverse engineer their own technology?
I don't think claims of extraterrestrial contact legit (particularly this one; according to Snopes and Doubtful News and a number of other sources the "alien" in Bushman's photos is a mass-produced Halloween decoration [the writer from Snopes added that he was even able to find one at his local Walmart]) but nonetheless This isn't necessarily a valid point. Do you know how most of the technology that you personally use works, in anything more than a very broad and general sense? And even if you did do you think you could repair or replicate it without the proper tools? Even if they did have complete knowledge of the technologies in question they'd still have to find a way build the tools necessary to build them, and to build the tools to build the tools; even, by analogy, if you know how to make microchips you may not know how to make a machine that etches silicon. Imagine trying to repair or duplicate an mp3 player using tools from Leonardo da Vinci's workshop.
It's a completely valid point. An expensive craft that could be damaged and stranded in space? Even humans know not to do that. Anyone with interstellar travel is gonna be a lot smarter than we are, so yeah, they might not be able to build one from scratch but they're sure as hell going to have a comprehensive understanding of how to fix it. Every single crew member is likely to be trained to do every job on board.
By analogy, consider the failed Apollo 13 moon mission: mission control had to devise a way of fixing the oxygen system on the fly.
...Using slide rulers.
(http://yesteryearremembered.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/slide-rule.jpg)
Good discussion. Hmmm, so my odds are now swinging towards "Spooks keeping a brilliant engineer hooked on alien-stories" as the background o this (dude doesn't seem like the kind of guy to attempt a mind-fuck, but who knows).
Quote from: Telarus on November 23, 2014, 06:10:37 AM
Good discussion. Hmmm, so my odds are now swinging towards "Spooks keeping a brilliant engineer hooked on alien-stories" as the background o this (dude doesn't seem like the kind of guy to attempt a mind-fuck, but who knows).
What better way to keep an absolute genius who might also be mildly prone to delusions 100% on board?
See also, "Project Beta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bennewitz)".