You guys ever got into tulpas?
A tulpa is basically you put enough thought into a character you create in your mind, you repeat exposing yourself to it enough, and you think hard enough, and it becomes real(in your own mind).
It's surprisingly popularish.
Its a Buddhist concept, if memory serves. John Keel thought it might be an explanation for a lot of the weird characters he was encountering in the late 1960s (allegedly)... Men in Black, etc.
It doesn't seem very likely to me, apart from psychosis, but then I've never really tried, so I can't say.
Tulpas are one of those things Lamas are supposed to be able to do after a lifetime of rigorous meditation.
So, naturally, American fucking new age freaks can do it the week they learn about it. It's just our way of shitting all over what culture hasn't already been consumed and shat out as a McDonalds on every corner.
So of course it's popular.
There are tulpas on tumblr (https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/tulpa), so I reckon those Buddhists are just bullshitting about how hard it is. I mean if the average OCD-impaired American teenager can do it, anyone can.
Cain, I'm worried about how much time you're spending on Tumblr.
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it?
Newsfeed.
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 01:29:10 PM
There are tulpas on tumblr (https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/tulpa), so I reckon those Buddhists are just bullshitting about how hard it is. I mean if the average OCD-impaired American teenager can do it, anyone can.
From Tumblr:
QuoteYou know that saying, "if you talk to God long enough, he just might talk back?" It's like that, but with animated ponies.
:kingmeh:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
:sotw:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
:sotw:
Was it a person? or is it just a saying, people keep calling me it and It's starting to trigger me.
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
:sotw:
Was it a person? or is it just a saying, people keep calling me it and It's starting to trigger me.
Ask me if I give a fuck. Go ahead, just ask.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
:sotw:
Was it a person? or is it just a saying, people keep calling me it and It's starting to trigger me.
Ask me if I give a fuck. Go ahead, just ask.
Do you give a fuck?
:popcorn:
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
:sotw:
Was it a person? or is it just a saying, people keep calling me it and It's starting to trigger me.
Ask me if I give a fuck. Go ahead, just ask.
Do you give a fuck?
NOPE.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:58:13 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:49:32 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
If the regular ocd mlp anime fan can turn their waifu real and fuck their reality.
Like, it's just thinking. Why doesn't everyone do it? It'd be fun to have imaginary friends, with benefits.
Imagine a poptart.
What is poptart?
:sotw:
Was it a person? or is it just a saying, people keep calling me it and It's starting to trigger me.
Ask me if I give a fuck. Go ahead, just ask.
Do you give a fuck?
NOPE.
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/273/doom_paul_1.png)
Thank you for your time, poptart.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Cain, I'm worried about how much time you're spending on Tumblr.
QuoteYeah, I know. It's been months since the last update but there's been nothing new to add. We've been having absolutely no progress at all because I feel that there's nothing left to try anymore... Nevertheless, things are still lively in this head, here's a quick summary for each of us.
Shai:
Adopted a gray kitten from one of my lucid dreams, (it's not a tulpa as far as we know or at least it doesn't seem to be more intelligent than a normal house cat). Has been singing a lot during work as we listen to music from a MP3 player, her voice overrides the vocals of the songs and sounds beautiful. Possesses very rarely and only switches in to eat cookies, cake and other sweet stuff (plus petting my sister's cat everytime we visit her).
Telk:
He's still fronting for most of the time, has cut down the alcohol consumption a lot. Doesn't have the time to socialize as much as before since he's started taking the work a lot more seriously than before but during weekends he's still the same old Telk. Still enjoys everyday life as much as one can.
Cherry:
I haven't been seeing her as much lately since she's usually at Telk's house and I'm on the other side of the wonderland, but she switches in to clean since Telk despises it. Organizes everything and has learned to play bass in the wonderland.
Me (Oni):
I usually fill in for Telk once or twice in the day when he wants to take a breather and front during evenings and early mornings when he sleeps. Most of my on time during free time I just play World of Tanks. I know, uninteresting as hell but that's just the usual me.
I don't know how to end this update other than vague promises that the life will still go on pretty much the same it has been, but I'm sure if something worth writing about pops up I'll be updating it in here. There'll be a party of some sorts of course when we get to day 1000 so there's that at least to wait for, so until next time!
Don't tell me you're not hooked.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2014, 01:46:29 PMFrom Tumblr:
QuoteYou know that saying, "if you talk to God long enough, he just might talk back?" It's like that, but with animated ponies.
:kingmeh:
It's like a truly endless supply of idiocy.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 02:02:48 PM
Thank you for your time, poptart.
(http://new3.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Bu+bu+das+rape+_94d8d02a8a5ceac3d4c9fca453f522b6.jpg)
All I needed to hear.
The rest of you guys, have fun playing with poptart.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
All I needed to hear.
The rest of you guys, have fun playing with poptart.
Who is poptart?
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
All I needed to hear.
The rest of you guys, have fun playing with poptart.
Who is poptart?
After extensive research into some shit archive of this forum. I have found that I am indeed poptart.
Exactly.
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 02:21:36 PM
After extensive research into some shit archive of this forum. I have found that I am indeed poptart.
Then you gotta go.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 12, 2014, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Meunster on December 12, 2014, 02:21:36 PM
After extensive research into some shit archive of this forum. I have found that I am indeed poptart.
Then you gotta go.
Ight
Citizens of PD, now feel free to discuss tulpas without Poptart molesting the conversation in his usual fashion.
Reminds me a bit of astral projection- probably hallucination triggered by meditation.
If it is a real thing, it does seem like it'd be further evidence towards RAW's 'what the thinker thinks the prover proves' idea. But, given how difficult it is just to be aware of your own unconscious habits and take control of them, actively tricking your own mind on a more fundamental level seems like it'd take a massive amount of discipline and focus. The end result of which is... what? To be able to confuse yourself about reality at will?
I personally spend enough time confused as it is. And I don't even have to work at it!
I'm pretty sure tumblr runs on the ability to confuse yourself about reality at will.
I rather sun gaze for 10 hrs/day.
I'm guessing the Tulpa is a similar beast to Crowley's Holy Guardian Angel.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
I'm guessing the Tulpa is a similar beast to Crowley's Holy Guardian Angel.
More like an egregore. Only it was invented by proud PoC Tibetans who dont no shit from no white man, as opposed to the heteronormative cissies in the western occult tradition.
No, the Tibetans only take shit form China.
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Cain, I'm worried about how much time you're spending on Tumblr.
QuoteYeah, I know. It's been months since the last update but there's been nothing new to add. We've been having absolutely no progress at all because I feel that there's nothing left to try anymore... Nevertheless, things are still lively in this head, here's a quick summary for each of us.
Shai:
Adopted a gray kitten from one of my lucid dreams, (it's not a tulpa as far as we know or at least it doesn't seem to be more intelligent than a normal house cat). Has been singing a lot during work as we listen to music from a MP3 player, her voice overrides the vocals of the songs and sounds beautiful. Possesses very rarely and only switches in to eat cookies, cake and other sweet stuff (plus petting my sister's cat everytime we visit her).
Telk:
He's still fronting for most of the time, has cut down the alcohol consumption a lot. Doesn't have the time to socialize as much as before since he's started taking the work a lot more seriously than before but during weekends he's still the same old Telk. Still enjoys everyday life as much as one can.
Cherry:
I haven't been seeing her as much lately since she's usually at Telk's house and I'm on the other side of the wonderland, but she switches in to clean since Telk despises it. Organizes everything and has learned to play bass in the wonderland.
Me (Oni):
I usually fill in for Telk once or twice in the day when he wants to take a breather and front during evenings and early mornings when he sleeps. Most of my on time during free time I just play World of Tanks. I know, uninteresting as hell but that's just the usual me.
I don't know how to end this update other than vague promises that the life will still go on pretty much the same it has been, but I'm sure if something worth writing about pops up I'll be updating it in here. There'll be a party of some sorts of course when we get to day 1000 so there's that at least to wait for, so until next time!
Don't tell me you're not hooked.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2014, 01:46:29 PMFrom Tumblr:
QuoteYou know that saying, "if you talk to God long enough, he just might talk back?" It's like that, but with animated ponies.
:kingmeh:
It's like a truly endless supply of idiocy.
Is this the new Multiple Personality Disorder, now that craze has faded in popularity?
Posting consistently for over a month without The Big Reveal?
Either it's not Poptart, or Poptart's growing up.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Is this the new Multiple Personality Disorder, now that craze has faded in popularity?
That's actually quite popular on tumblr still, too.
I suspect this is the pre-DID phase, and later on they will claim their tulpas are, in fact, alters, and they were just too young to know any better.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
No, the Tibetans only take shit form China.
That is, because like the Italians and Druids (http://pleasepleasepepper.tumblr.com/post/104966058899/thetenk-hominishostilis-salsapone), Chinese people are not white.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Posting consistently for over a month without The Big Reveal?
Either it's not Poptart, or Poptart's growing up.
Well, he pretty much admitted it in this thread. So while it's not quite a Big Reveal, it's close.
So, has anyone done a psychopath-rights tumblr? Like, check your neurotypical/empathy privilege?
I'm pretty sure there's a rule34 corollary applies to tumblr only with dumb shit instead of pr0n
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 12, 2014, 05:22:48 PM
I'm pretty sure there's a rule34 corollary applies to tumblr only with dumb shit instead of pr0n
Oh of course theres probably a handful of edgy special snowflakes who already got the idea. I mean, has anyone ever
DONE it?
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Cain, I'm worried about how much time you're spending on Tumblr.
QuoteYeah, I know. It's been months since the last update but there's been nothing new to add. We've been having absolutely no progress at all because I feel that there's nothing left to try anymore... Nevertheless, things are still lively in this head, here's a quick summary for each of us.
Shai:
Adopted a gray kitten from one of my lucid dreams, (it's not a tulpa as far as we know or at least it doesn't seem to be more intelligent than a normal house cat). Has been singing a lot during work as we listen to music from a MP3 player, her voice overrides the vocals of the songs and sounds beautiful. Possesses very rarely and only switches in to eat cookies, cake and other sweet stuff (plus petting my sister's cat everytime we visit her).
Telk:
He's still fronting for most of the time, has cut down the alcohol consumption a lot. Doesn't have the time to socialize as much as before since he's started taking the work a lot more seriously than before but during weekends he's still the same old Telk. Still enjoys everyday life as much as one can.
Cherry:
I haven't been seeing her as much lately since she's usually at Telk's house and I'm on the other side of the wonderland, but she switches in to clean since Telk despises it. Organizes everything and has learned to play bass in the wonderland.
Me (Oni):
I usually fill in for Telk once or twice in the day when he wants to take a breather and front during evenings and early mornings when he sleeps. Most of my on time during free time I just play World of Tanks. I know, uninteresting as hell but that's just the usual me.
I don't know how to end this update other than vague promises that the life will still go on pretty much the same it has been, but I'm sure if something worth writing about pops up I'll be updating it in here. There'll be a party of some sorts of course when we get to day 1000 so there's that at least to wait for, so until next time!
Don't tell me you're not hooked.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2014, 01:46:29 PMFrom Tumblr:
QuoteYou know that saying, "if you talk to God long enough, he just might talk back?" It's like that, but with animated ponies.
:kingmeh:
It's like a truly endless supply of idiocy.
Is this the new Multiple Personality Disorder, now that craze has faded in popularity?
It seems interesting to have dufferent states of mind tagged with a name... assuming its after a great effort in self awareness and pattern recognition rather than childish egocentrical rambling.
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on December 12, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
So, has anyone done a psychopath-rights tumblr? Like, check your neurotypical/empathy privilege?
I think there was, a while back. After BBC's Sherlock was on TV, and he referred to himself as a sociopath.
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
No, the Tibetans only take shit form China.
That is, because like the Italians and Druids (http://pleasepleasepepper.tumblr.com/post/104966058899/thetenk-hominishostilis-salsapone), Chinese people are not white.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
Posting consistently for over a month without The Big Reveal?
Either it's not Poptart, or Poptart's growing up.
Well, he pretty much admitted it in this thread. So while it's not quite a Big Reveal, it's close.
I couldn't tell whether it was a real admission or a facetious admission. "OK fine, everybody keeps calling me Poptart, I guess I'm Poptart".
He doesn't seem potarty to me, but I've been wrong before.
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on December 12, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
So, has anyone done a psychopath-rights tumblr? Like, check your neurotypical/empathy privilege?
I think there was, a while back. After BBC's Sherlock was on TV, and he referred to himself as a sociopath.
Don't forget that chick who wrote a book and went on a talk show circuit. Although I'd be willing to put money down that she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, not Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Also it irritates me that so many people conflate sociopathy and psychopathy. I grant that they are poorly defined, but at least two major researchers distinguish between them.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 08:26:47 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on December 12, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
So, has anyone done a psychopath-rights tumblr? Like, check your neurotypical/empathy privilege?
I think there was, a while back. After BBC's Sherlock was on TV, and he referred to himself as a sociopath.
Don't forget that chick who wrote a book and went on a talk show circuit. Although I'd be willing to put money down that she has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, not Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Also it irritates me that so many people conflate sociopathy and psychopathy. I grant that they are poorly defined, but at least two major researchers distinguish between them.
TBH im a psychology major and i dont know the exact differentiation, and im a relatively well read person.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
May i ask why it bothers you so much that people interchangeably use the terms when the terms themselves are so blurry?
I don't know shit about them, but I always thought sociopaths didn't recognize other people as real, and psychopaths were the same way but are actively amused by causing harm, rather than just uncaring.
How ive understood it previously, is that psychopaths do criminal activity for the pleasure, the profit or the narcissistic component in a very cold and planned manner... serial killers, bankers; while sociopaths do criminal activity out of necessity but still having empathy and probably feel guilty about things theyve done, but they still do it because they have more empathy for those close to them than those they dont know (for example, all the Guadalupan Cholos, that, even with a life of crime they believe in the Virgin Mary and repentance).
Quote from: The Johnny on December 13, 2014, 12:03:28 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
May i ask why it bothers you so much that people interchangeably use the terms when the terms themselves are so blurry?
Because I think the distinction is significant due to the origins of each, even if there is overlap.
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
No, the Tibetans only take shit form China.
That is, because like the Italians and Druids (http://pleasepleasepepper.tumblr.com/post/104966058899/thetenk-hominishostilis-salsapone), Chinese people are not white.
Quotestonehenge was made by a celtic group of priests called the druids.
:lulz: Stopped reading right there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETOEhMXEkdI
It's great to see that research into the history of the British Isle's hasn't progressed beyond the fanciful nonsense of the 1800s. That applies equally to the supposed African connection as it does to the concept that the Druids existed before the Druids existed.
:lulz:
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on December 13, 2014, 06:20:10 AM
It's great to see that research into the history of the British Isle's hasn't progressed beyond the fanciful nonsense of the 1800s. That applies equally to the supposed African connection as it does to the concept that the Druids existed before the Druids existed.
:lulz:
They were very clever, those Druids.
Quote from: Nepos twiddletonis on December 13, 2014, 06:20:10 AM
It's great to see that research into the history of the British Isle's hasn't progressed beyond the fanciful nonsense of the 1800s. That applies equally to the supposed African connection as it does to the concept that the Druids existed before the Druids existed.
:lulz:
Yeah, tumblr is just basically a fact-free zone. Even people attempting to correct other people are usually wrong.
One of my Pagan forum trolls back in the day was to pretend to be someone researching druids because I had lucid dreams/astral projections/a spirit guide who said I used to be one.
Then ramp up the crazy until I'm asking them what athame is most Druidish for cutting out a man's still-beating heart or which knots would be most authentic to create my own wicker man for burning kids in. Alas, I was never good enough to pull it off so more than the most gullible people bought into it. :sad:
Well yeah, cause Tumblr
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
The comparison chart in that link seems to contradict the information given above it.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
The comparison chart in that link seems to contradict the information given above it.
How so?
One of the major problems with untangling the origins of psychopathy and differentiating it from sociopathy is that psychopaths are often the children of psychopaths, which muddies the waters in terms of the method of heritability.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 05:03:57 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
The comparison chart in that link seems to contradict the information given above it.
How so?
The information given above says psychopaths are prone to impulsiveness which leads to risk taking behavior, then the chart below attributes those qualities to sociopaths and claims psychopaths use premeditated crimes with controllable risks.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 05:03:57 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
The comparison chart in that link seems to contradict the information given above it.
How so?
The information given above says psychopaths are prone to impulsiveness which leads to risk taking behavior, then the chart below attributes those qualities to sociopaths and claims psychopaths use premeditated crimes with controllable risks.
Huh.
As far as I know, both are prone to risk-taking and poor at calculating consequences. I know that in the case of psychopaths that's largely due to underdeveloped amygdalas, and my guess is that it's also true of sociopaths.
However, psychopaths are less prone to acting out... probably because acting out is part of the diagnosis for sociopaths. And again we get into why the DSM is becoming less and less valuable as we grow to understand more about underlying factors.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 13, 2014, 06:51:43 AM
They were very clever, those Druids.
Mysterious, too.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/075/2/4/profile_picture_by_drewpicklespictures-d4syqbv.png)
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 13, 2014, 05:03:57 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: The Johnny on December 12, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath (http://www.diffen.com/difference/Psychopath_vs_Sociopath) :?
That entry does a pretty poor job of expressing the difference, IMO. From the reading I've done, mostly the books by Hare and Kiehl, psychopathy is a heritable condition that is primarily biologically-based, while sociopathy is an environmentally-induced condition.
The lines there really blur, because having the genetic predisposition for psychopathy is not a guarantee that it will develop. However, I think they make the distinction because sociopathy is a condition that was unlikely to be the default condition of the sufferer without significant social factors, and can often be treated, while psychopathy is more likely to emerge without significant social factors, and is less tractable.
The comparison chart in that link seems to contradict the information given above it.
How so?
The information given above says psychopaths are prone to impulsiveness which leads to risk taking behavior, then the chart below attributes those qualities to sociopaths and claims psychopaths use premeditated crimes with controllable risks.
I went back and read it, and what it's saying are that psychopaths have a temperamental predisposition to risk-taking: it is specifically addressing temperament, which is an inborn trait. It is emphasizing that psychopaths are born, while sociopaths are made.
It is my guess that there is also a temperamental factor in sociopaths, as well, because not everyone who is exposed to a negative/abusive environment becomes a sociopath.
The whole thing is further confused by the fact that not all psychopaths behave antisocially.
How would you know someone is if they don't act anti-socially?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
How would you know someone is if they don't act anti-socially?
There's a funny story about that...
Quote"I got to the bottom of the stack, and saw this scan that was obviously pathological," he says, noting that it showed low activity in certain areas of the frontal and temporal lobes linked to empathy, morality and self-control. Knowing that it belonged to a member of his family, Fallon checked his lab's PET machine for an error (it was working perfectly fine) and then decided he simply had to break the blinding that prevented him from knowing whose brain was pictured. When he looked up the code, he was greeted by an unsettling revelation: the psychopathic brain pictured in the scan was his own.
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/#bu4H5t2DExckuDXl.99
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 14, 2014, 11:49:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
How would you know someone is if they don't act anti-socially?
There's a funny story about that...
Quote"I got to the bottom of the stack, and saw this scan that was obviously pathological," he says, noting that it showed low activity in certain areas of the frontal and temporal lobes linked to empathy, morality and self-control. Knowing that it belonged to a member of his family, Fallon checked his lab's PET machine for an error (it was working perfectly fine) and then decided he simply had to break the blinding that prevented him from knowing whose brain was pictured. When he looked up the code, he was greeted by an unsettling revelation: the psychopathic brain pictured in the scan was his own.
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/#bu4H5t2DExckuDXl.99
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 14, 2014, 11:49:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
How would you know someone is if they don't act anti-socially?
There's a funny story about that...
Quote"I got to the bottom of the stack, and saw this scan that was obviously pathological," he says, noting that it showed low activity in certain areas of the frontal and temporal lobes linked to empathy, morality and self-control. Knowing that it belonged to a member of his family, Fallon checked his lab's PET machine for an error (it was working perfectly fine) and then decided he simply had to break the blinding that prevented him from knowing whose brain was pictured. When he looked up the code, he was greeted by an unsettling revelation: the psychopathic brain pictured in the scan was his own.
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/#bu4H5t2DExckuDXl.99
"Then Roger shrugged, and ate his lunch."
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 15, 2014, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 14, 2014, 11:49:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 14, 2014, 11:44:16 PM
How would you know someone is if they don't act anti-socially?
There's a funny story about that...
Quote"I got to the bottom of the stack, and saw this scan that was obviously pathological," he says, noting that it showed low activity in certain areas of the frontal and temporal lobes linked to empathy, morality and self-control. Knowing that it belonged to a member of his family, Fallon checked his lab's PET machine for an error (it was working perfectly fine) and then decided he simply had to break the blinding that prevented him from knowing whose brain was pictured. When he looked up the code, he was greeted by an unsettling revelation: the psychopathic brain pictured in the scan was his own.
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/#bu4H5t2DExckuDXl.99
"Then Roger shrugged, and ate his lunch."
:lulz:
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Cain, I'm worried about how much time you're spending on Tumblr.
QuoteYeah, I know. It's been months since the last update but there's been nothing new to add. We've been having absolutely no progress at all because I feel that there's nothing left to try anymore... Nevertheless, things are still lively in this head, here's a quick summary for each of us.
Shai:
Adopted a gray kitten from one of my lucid dreams, (it's not a tulpa as far as we know or at least it doesn't seem to be more intelligent than a normal house cat). Has been singing a lot during work as we listen to music from a MP3 player, her voice overrides the vocals of the songs and sounds beautiful. Possesses very rarely and only switches in to eat cookies, cake and other sweet stuff (plus petting my sister's cat everytime we visit her).
Telk:
He's still fronting for most of the time, has cut down the alcohol consumption a lot. Doesn't have the time to socialize as much as before since he's started taking the work a lot more seriously than before but during weekends he's still the same old Telk. Still enjoys everyday life as much as one can.
Cherry:
I haven't been seeing her as much lately since she's usually at Telk's house and I'm on the other side of the wonderland, but she switches in to clean since Telk despises it. Organizes everything and has learned to play bass in the wonderland.
Me (Oni):
I usually fill in for Telk once or twice in the day when he wants to take a breather and front during evenings and early mornings when he sleeps. Most of my on time during free time I just play World of Tanks. I know, uninteresting as hell but that's just the usual me.
I don't know how to end this update other than vague promises that the life will still go on pretty much the same it has been, but I'm sure if something worth writing about pops up I'll be updating it in here. There'll be a party of some sorts of course when we get to day 1000 so there's that at least to wait for, so until next time!
Don't tell me you're not hooked.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2014, 01:46:29 PMFrom Tumblr:
QuoteYou know that saying, "if you talk to God long enough, he just might talk back?" It's like that, but with animated ponies.
:kingmeh:
It's like a truly endless supply of idiocy.
Is this the new Multiple Personality Disorder, now that craze has faded in popularity?
I think it fills the same niche as claiming Multiple Personalities, but without invoking the ire of mental illness-related bloggers on Tumblr. Frame it as a spiritual thing rather than a pathological thing, and ta-da! All the special snowflake-ness without the ableism brigade knocking down your door.
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on December 16, 2014, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 12, 2014, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 12, 2014, 02:04:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on December 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Cain, I'm worried about how much time you're spending on Tumblr.
QuoteYeah, I know. It's been months since the last update but there's been nothing new to add. We've been having absolutely no progress at all because I feel that there's nothing left to try anymore... Nevertheless, things are still lively in this head, here's a quick summary for each of us.
Shai:
Adopted a gray kitten from one of my lucid dreams, (it's not a tulpa as far as we know or at least it doesn't seem to be more intelligent than a normal house cat). Has been singing a lot during work as we listen to music from a MP3 player, her voice overrides the vocals of the songs and sounds beautiful. Possesses very rarely and only switches in to eat cookies, cake and other sweet stuff (plus petting my sister's cat everytime we visit her).
Telk:
He's still fronting for most of the time, has cut down the alcohol consumption a lot. Doesn't have the time to socialize as much as before since he's started taking the work a lot more seriously than before but during weekends he's still the same old Telk. Still enjoys everyday life as much as one can.
Cherry:
I haven't been seeing her as much lately since she's usually at Telk's house and I'm on the other side of the wonderland, but she switches in to clean since Telk despises it. Organizes everything and has learned to play bass in the wonderland.
Me (Oni):
I usually fill in for Telk once or twice in the day when he wants to take a breather and front during evenings and early mornings when he sleeps. Most of my on time during free time I just play World of Tanks. I know, uninteresting as hell but that's just the usual me.
I don't know how to end this update other than vague promises that the life will still go on pretty much the same it has been, but I'm sure if something worth writing about pops up I'll be updating it in here. There'll be a party of some sorts of course when we get to day 1000 so there's that at least to wait for, so until next time!
Don't tell me you're not hooked.
Quote from: Hoopla on December 12, 2014, 01:46:29 PMFrom Tumblr:
QuoteYou know that saying, "if you talk to God long enough, he just might talk back?" It's like that, but with animated ponies.
:kingmeh:
It's like a truly endless supply of idiocy.
Is this the new Multiple Personality Disorder, now that craze has faded in popularity?
I think it fills the same niche as claiming Multiple Personalities, but without invoking the ire of mental illness-related bloggers on Tumblr. Frame it as a spiritual thing rather than a pathological thing, and ta-da! All the special snowflake-ness without the ableism brigade knocking down your door.
Everybody wins!
The other day my 16-year-old told me she thinks she's a sociopath. I told her that I think she spends way too much time on Tumblr.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 16, 2014, 05:53:32 PM
The other day my 16-year-old told me she thinks she's a sociopath. I told her that I think she spends way too much time on Tumblr.
That said, tumblr does have plenty of sociopaths (http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/) on it.
Quote from: Cain on December 16, 2014, 05:58:44 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on December 16, 2014, 05:53:32 PM
The other day my 16-year-old told me she thinks she's a sociopath. I told her that I think she spends way too much time on Tumblr.
That said, tumblr does have plenty of sociopaths (http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/) on it.
Thoughtcatalog also seems to have a lot of sociopaths on it, for that matter.
Thought Catalog is basically tumblr for people who don't need to make their writing look like it's published on a shitty Geocities site circa 1997. Not necessarily about the social justice thing, but just generally.
But it was the first link I could find that wasn't tumblr for the recent Communismkills drama.
Quote from: Cain on December 16, 2014, 06:27:09 PM
Thought Catalog is basically tumblr for people who don't need to make their writing look like it's published on a shitty Geocities site circa 1997. Not necessarily about the social justice thing, but just generally.
But it was the first link I could find that wasn't tumblr for the recent Communismkills drama.
It worked well enough... I just thought it was some irony in that particular article being there, given some of the Thoughtcatalog drama I've seen.
I think the Daily Dot had an article, but their archive is...not easy to navigate. Same for Reddit's thread on it. which probably had the DD link.
I remember (re: OP) them also being called something like nensha, in the further east?