So hip hop has finally taken hold--Only I've been so distanced from the music i'm really not sure how to recognize "good" hip hop.
I've always like wu-tang and mos def. most recently I've been listening to A$AP Mob, who i really like the more ambient quality of their style (at times). I've heard Hilltop Hoods, but not enough.
Anybody have any recommendations?
Lil Wayne and Vanilla Ice.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 08, 2015, 11:03:09 PM
So hip hop has finally taken hold--Only I've been so distanced from the music i'm really not sure how to recognize "good" hip hop.
I've always like wu-tang and mos def. most recently I've been listening to A$AP Mob, who i really like the more ambient quality of their style (at times). I've heard Hilltop Hoods, but not enough.
Anybody have any recommendations?
Lil Jon.
I put fish sauce on my mac n cheese, so I may not be the best source for taste....
That said, I really enjoy Atmosphere (God Loves Ugly,The Last To Say, Pour Me Another, Gotta Lotta Walls, Mattress, Sunshine, Free or Dead, lots of them basically) , El-P (Stay Down, The Full Retard, Drones Over Brooklyn), Run The Jewels (Lie, Cheat, Steal, the whole first album), Binary Star, Gangstarr, Deltron 3030, Hail Mary Mallon.
I also second Vanilla Ice.
And, of course, ICP.
Non-troll: Ultramagnetic MCs
Mykki Blanko
Death grips
Thanks for the start, i'll let you all know how it pans out.
A$AP Mob?
Really?
I...I'm sad.
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
And, of course, ICP.
This should really just be a given.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 09, 2015, 04:29:06 AM
A$AP Mob?
Really?
I...I'm sad.
So do me one better. I was hoping you of all would have a good suggestions
De La Soul, "Buhloone Mind State".
Oh, and you already know about Public Enemy, right?
Run the Jewels seconded
Madvillain added
Quote from: LMNO on October 09, 2015, 12:40:30 AM
Non-troll: Ultramagnetic MCs
Just finished The Four Horsemen and YES! This is what I'm talking about. I LOVE the lazy jazz loops combined with the hip-hop element--that really grabs me. I found myself humming the chorus of Saga Of Dandy, The Devil & Day. DAMN good tune!
Quote from: Cain on October 08, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Lil Wayne and Vanilla Ice.
See, you SAY that, but I kind of LIKE Lil Wayne...I don't care what anybody thinks.
And yeah I owned To the Extreme--just like everyother kid in my class--when i was 9. 15 million album sales...
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 08, 2015, 11:49:50 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 08, 2015, 11:03:09 PM
So hip hop has finally taken hold--Only I've been so distanced from the music i'm really not sure how to recognize "good" hip hop.
I've always like wu-tang and mos def. most recently I've been listening to A$AP Mob, who i really like the more ambient quality of their style (at times). I've heard Hilltop Hoods, but not enough.
Anybody have any recommendations?
Lil Jon.
I've enjoyed what was pushed to the airwaves from Lil Jon. I'll check out his full album though...because...why not?
You like jazzy loops, try A Tribe Called Quest.
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
I put fish sauce on my mac n cheese, so I may not be the best source for taste....
That said, I really enjoy Atmosphere (God Loves Ugly,The Last To Say, Pour Me Another, Gotta Lotta Walls, Mattress, Sunshine, Free or Dead, lots of them basically) , El-P (Stay Down, The Full Retard, Drones Over Brooklyn), Run The Jewels (Lie, Cheat, Steal, the whole first album), Binary Star, Gangstarr, Deltron 3030, Hail Mary Mallon.
I also second Vanilla Ice.
And, of course, ICP.
Started off with Atmosphere's God Loves Ugly album. I like this too. It was a nice change from the lazy jazz of Ultramagnetic...this is more, how do i say, smoother? It makes for nice variation. I don't think I would have noticed this difference before. I'll check out the rest soon. Thanks :)
And I should have probably searched around first....
Coyote solicites recomendations for Rap and Hip-Hop to listen to (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=35603.0)
Quote from: LMNO on October 09, 2015, 03:14:27 PM
You like jazzy loops, try A Tribe Called Quest.
Nearly finished with Midnight Marauders. Ho-Lee-SHIT. This is so far my favorite album from this thread. IT's smooth, it's jazzy, it's really REALLY clean.
You might also like Black Sheep, and pretty much anyone involved in the Native Tongues (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Tongues) collective.
Alright, tried out Run the Jewels. This was a bit different. They have a kind of ethereal/chill quality while a the same time also coming across some what...hard. I like the variation in the melodies and it really translated well. So far i haven't found something I don't like. however comparing the recommendations in this thread to A$AP Mob, I think i'm beginning to see where ECH was coming from.
Public Enemy is Badass! I've heard of them but never really /heard/ them. I can see listening to this when i'm about to go out and fuck shit up....as often as that happens :|
They're pretty good though...lots of variation.
ETA: I could listen to this track over and over: Everything - Public Enemy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cok88P0AUlc)
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 05:07:09 AM
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
And, of course, ICP.
This should really just be a given.
I can't...I just can't
Come on, man. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer and Professor Elemental.
Also, Necro
I suppose one really CAN'T go wrong with steampunk chap hop--like ever.
Necro and Mr. B added to the queue, thanks :)
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 05:07:09 AM
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
And, of course, ICP.
This should really just be a given.
I can't...I just can't
Come on, man. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
When I was a couch tenant at a buddy's house one year, his brother thought it was a good idea to play ICP at 8 o'clock every damn morning (give or take a hangover). While he wasn't a scientist, I can personally attest to the amount of internal violence associated with repetitive, somnambulistic messages about stabbing people, face paint and STDs.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 05:07:09 AM
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
And, of course, ICP.
This should really just be a given.
I can't...I just can't
Come on, man. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
When I was a couch tenant at a buddy's house one year, his brother thought it was a good idea to play ICP at 8 o'clock every damn morning (give or take a hangover). While he wasn't a scientist, I can personally attest to the amount of internal violence associated with repetitive, somnambulistic messages about stabbing people, face paint and STDs.
I feel like he wasn't collecting data according to the proper protocol.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 11:26:39 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 05:07:09 AM
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
And, of course, ICP.
This should really just be a given.
I can't...I just can't
Come on, man. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
When I was a couch tenant at a buddy's house one year, his brother thought it was a good idea to play ICP at 8 o'clock every damn morning (give or take a hangover). While he wasn't a scientist, I can personally attest to the amount of internal violence associated with repetitive, somnambulistic messages about stabbing people, face paint and STDs.
I feel like he wasn't collecting data according to the proper protocol.
Well if he tried to collect anything from me, I certainly would have remembered....right?
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on October 09, 2015, 09:22:37 PM
Mr B the Gentleman Rhymer and Professor Elemental.
Also, Necro
Listened to Necro's Brutality Part 1 album (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgrPiHeFRIw&list=PL8dW5cAgqNoh_Rn5gB7dnt3x7yvxvV5R8) on the way home and this one struck me in two ways. Something about him or his lyrics or...something...comes across as very pretentious and i'm not sure exactly why. I'll have think about it.
With that out of the way, those beats were fanfuckingtastic. So, it was quite serendipitous when I saw that THIS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FH6RutUUc) was available.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 10, 2015, 12:00:54 AM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 11:26:39 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:53:41 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 09, 2015, 05:07:09 AM
Quote from: OREGON on October 09, 2015, 12:32:20 AM
And, of course, ICP.
This should really just be a given.
I can't...I just can't
Come on, man. Trust me, I'm a scientist.
When I was a couch tenant at a buddy's house one year, his brother thought it was a good idea to play ICP at 8 o'clock every damn morning (give or take a hangover). While he wasn't a scientist, I can personally attest to the amount of internal violence associated with repetitive, somnambulistic messages about stabbing people, face paint and STDs.
I feel like he wasn't collecting data according to the proper protocol.
Well if he tried to collect anything from me, I certainly would have remembered....right?
Well, I suppose that depends.
I almost hate to admit it, but I love this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGhoLcsr8GA
ECH will not be pleased, but I get it. It's really clever pop.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 09, 2015, 04:29:06 AM
A$AP Mob?
Really?
I...I'm sad.
So do me one better. I was hoping you of all would have a good suggestions
Fair enough!
The new Eligh & Grouch joint is a lot to digest, but most of its
41 fucking tracks are goddamned good with several that are goddamned great. If you want to split them up and follow those rabbit holes, anything Grouch does is fucking gold, including and especially
Heroes in the City of Dope with Zion I. Cunninlynguists are the LeBron James of soulful southern hip-hop. They're not OutKast, but they're the best thing since OutKast by a very wide margin. Grayskul is making some next-level shit right now and has always been a few steps ahead of the genre as a whole. Buggsy and Brotherman, both out of the UK, both putting that delightfully weird and slightly dubby sort of singjay slant on it that the British rappers do so well. Die Antwoord are a bunch of whacked out SAfrican zefpunks masterminded by Watkin Tudor Jones, who is basically the Mike Patton of hip-hop. Get Busy Committee is classic. Goldini Bagwell has the highest ceiling of any rapper. On his best tracks (WMN vs. WRK is my favorite) he's totally untouchable. Bliss n Eso, Fatty Phew, and Hilltop Hoods are my favorites from my over-all favorite music making country. Did you know that Vinnie Paz and Everlast are in a group together? Did you know that group is REALLY REALLY good? They're called La Coka Nostra. I feel a little dirty admitting this, but I'm a big Major Lazer fan. Pharoahe Monch is, I'm pretty sure, actually crazy but he raps about his damage in a way that makes it feel as though his raps are his way of weaponizing that craziness. Saigon. Schoolboy Q. RA the Rugged Man, owner of the single sickest guest verse in hip-hop (and his own stuff is great too). And I have to finish it off with a recommendation of the latest joint from the actual honest-to-god King of Maine himself, Spose. It's called
Why am I so Happy? and it is a dark and delicious slice of genius pie.
I would second the Hilltop Hoods and Bliss n Eso recommendations. If you are into a more pop-inspired sound then there's an artist called Illy who I enjoy.
From the UK there is a label called High Focus that has quite a wide variety of artists on it but a recent release that I think stands out has been Verb T & Illinformed's Man with the Foggy Eyes https://youtu.be/2j6T8JnyT6I (https://youtu.be/2j6T8JnyT6I)
I also like Cutta Chase https://youtu.be/LVl2L22xxSc (https://youtu.be/LVl2L22xxSc)
Apollo Brown is a producer from Detroit (apparently) that puts out some beats I really like - his Dice Game album is good and I think he's done one with Ghostface Killah (The Brown Tape). https://youtu.be/v1uKhwN6FtA (https://youtu.be/v1uKhwN6FtA)
There's a whole load of recommendations from this threat I need to check out though! That Public Enemy song was great.
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 08, 2015, 11:03:09 PM
So hip hop has finally taken hold--Only I've been so distanced from the music i'm really not sure how to recognize "good" hip hop.
I've always like wu-tang and mos def. most recently I've been listening to A$AP Mob, who i really like the more ambient quality of their style (at times). I've heard Hilltop Hoods, but not enough.
Anybody have any recommendations?
Aesop Rock (NOT ROCKY) Barbary Coast, love
https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=CauWi02hDJU
Clipse - dopeman
https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=D5zBcMJQIjk
Clipse - mr me too
https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=FFZj_Srj4eU
And, last one, promise
https://youtube.com/#/watch?v=MX6rC1krGp0
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 10, 2015, 06:47:10 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 09, 2015, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 09, 2015, 04:29:06 AM
A$AP Mob?
Really?
I...I'm sad.
So do me one better. I was hoping you of all would have a good suggestions
Fair enough!
The new Eligh & Grouch joint is a lot to digest, but most of its 41 fucking tracks are goddamned good with several that are goddamned great. If you want to split them up and follow those rabbit holes, anything Grouch does is fucking gold, including and especially Heroes in the City of Dope with Zion I. Cunninlynguists are the LeBron James of soulful southern hip-hop. They're not OutKast, but they're the best thing since OutKast by a very wide margin. Grayskul is making some next-level shit right now and has always been a few steps ahead of the genre as a whole. Buggsy and Brotherman, both out of the UK, both putting that delightfully weird and slightly dubby sort of singjay slant on it that the British rappers do so well. Die Antwoord are a bunch of whacked out SAfrican zefpunks masterminded by Watkin Tudor Jones, who is basically the Mike Patton of hip-hop. Get Busy Committee is classic. Goldini Bagwell has the highest ceiling of any rapper. On his best tracks (WMN vs. WRK is my favorite) he's totally untouchable. Bliss n Eso, Fatty Phew, and Hilltop Hoods are my favorites from my over-all favorite music making country. Did you know that Vinnie Paz and Everlast are in a group together? Did you know that group is REALLY REALLY good? They're called La Coka Nostra. I feel a little dirty admitting this, but I'm a big Major Lazer fan. Pharoahe Monch is, I'm pretty sure, actually crazy but he raps about his damage in a way that makes it feel as though his raps are his way of weaponizing that craziness. Saigon. Schoolboy Q. RA the Rugged Man, owner of the single sickest guest verse in hip-hop (and his own stuff is great too). And I have to finish it off with a recommendation of the latest joint from the actual honest-to-god King of Maine himself, Spose. It's called Why am I so Happy? and it is a dark and delicious slice of genius pie.
Thank you very much! I'll start at the top and very bottom
This shit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPX3Xlb8pqg
Dude just encapsulates America in like 4 minutes flat.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 10, 2015, 07:50:59 PM
This shit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPX3Xlb8pqg
Dude just encapsulates America in like 4 minutes flat.
That was pretty powerful
Grouch and Eligh are all over the place with theirmaterial. I assume that 333 album is the latest?
The Tortoise and the Crow is the one I was talking about, which is the latest one I'm aware of but I'm not really in the scene so I don't always know the latest and greatest right away these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNivTiNmNsA
and then there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bum-JlUEL48
which makes a great segue into this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtZKeG4Z1ZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58RSC7HO9aU
I admit, I'm struggling not to be that old man who wonders how you kids can listen to such crappy crap these days.
But there must be a strong enough market for slobby white boy coke rap because clearly that shit is carrying the day now.
I know, I know. It's all subjective and everyone gets to like what they like. Ignore the old man in the rocking chair bumping ATLiens.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 10, 2015, 09:26:27 PM
I know, I know. It's all subjective and everyone gets to like what they like. Ignore the old man in the rocking chair bumping ATLiens.
I was thinking the same thing about my inability to enjoy Necro...but maybe i'm jumping the gun.
Has anyone yet mentioned that Wu Tang Clan ain't nuthin to fuck with?
RJD2
Stetasonic
Lupe Fiasco
Sage Francis - Sea Lion
Black Milk - mouth music
Immortal Technique
A Tribe Called Quest (?) [edit]
Nas
Quote from: LMNO on October 10, 2015, 10:46:03 PM
Has anyone yet mentioned that Wu Tang Clan ain't nuthin to fuck with?
So I'm gonna step up and be the heretic here...
They kind of sucked after the first 2 albums (which are, admittedly, classics).
That said...
Triumph
might be the best rap song of all time.
I didn't even like hip-hop until I heard this joint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRKsKwEdUQ
Quote from: Xaz on October 10, 2015, 09:46:32 AM
From the UK there is a label called High Focus that has quite a wide variety of artists on it but a recent release that I think stands out has been Verb T & Illinformed's Man with the Foggy Eyes https://youtu.be/2j6T8JnyT6I (https://youtu.be/2j6T8JnyT6I)
I loved that piano riff going on throughout. Also liked how his accent sounds with rapping.
ECH, I hear ya. What do think are the most solid solo albums, though? Liquid Swords?
Only Built for Cuban Linx, with Fishscale running a close 2nd. I like Liquid Swords too, though.
And it doesn't really count as a Wu Tang solo album but I'll always have a soft spot for Blackout.
Ha! I was almost gonna say blackout.
Hey, you have any thoughts on Joey Badass? I'm kinda digging it.
I love how melodic Heroes in the City of Dope is.
Not hip hop but, www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udp6fZ9vWCI
The Northerners are fucking pissed off :argh!: And rightly so...
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 11, 2015, 02:35:24 AM
I love how melodic Heroes in the City of Dope is.
Badlands is one of my favorite songs, period. It's my go-to when I'm having a shit day and need to spit bars fast and hard in the middle of traffic. I always imagine it's an ode to Tucson.
That wasn't what I expected. Then again, I haven't listened to a lot of hip hop for years.
https://youtu.be/BCb7BMvT-ZU
About as close as I usually get. :)
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 11, 2015, 03:05:55 AM
Quote from: Bu☆ns on October 11, 2015, 02:35:24 AM
I love how melodic Heroes in the City of Dope is.
Badlands is one of my favorite songs, period. It's my go-to when I'm having a shit day and need to spit bars fast and hard in the middle of traffic. I always imagine it's an ode to Tucson.
Heh--that's a really good one. I'm glad listened again--lot's of imagery in that. Earlier, the one i remember really grabbing me was Trains and Planes. Maybe that repetitive melody hypnotized me.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Cypress Hill?
Most likely because after the first album they drifted into self parody and nu metal.
Quote from: The All-Seeing Waffle on October 11, 2015, 12:21:37 PM
Why hasn't anyone mentioned Cypress Hill?
Because this isn't a troll thread?
2nding A Tribe Called Quest for 90s vibe
Adding: The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride to the Pharcyde album (2nd once not so much)
Digable Planets - Reachin'
The Roots - looooonnnnnnnggggg before they were the Jimmy Fallon House Band (tm) I saw them in a tent in 1994. Favorites are probably 'From The Ground Up' EP and 'Phrenology'.
Also this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRo48zg2iyU
Thank me later
:wink:
Dude, Pharcyde was awesome. I liked Labcabincalifornia too but Bizzarre Ride was definitely the best.
Secondening Roots.
Yeah. Roots are/were brilliant.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on October 13, 2015, 02:01:35 AM
Dude, Pharcyde was awesome. I liked Labcabincalifornia too but Bizzarre Ride was definitely the best.
Agreed, Labcabincalifornia was ok but Bizarre Ride was way beyond that. Got to see them live in 1995..ahh...good times.
Have you seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdpXFHfHLoQ - What's Up Fatlip? documentary by Spike Jonze.
And while we are fueling the nostalgia, I just discovered this recently:
https://soundcloud.com/jessica-rosales/gummy-soul-bizarre-tribe-a
It's the ATCQ/Pharcyde mashup. I found the full album on youtube a few weeks back but angry lawyers at Sony have been..well...angry. Enjoy it while you can find it!
PS No love/hate for Slim Jesus? He's the Rebecca Black of Drill music.