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Principia Discordia => Aneristic Illusions => Topic started by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 12:53:31 PM

Title: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 12:53:31 PM
 :lulz:

http://www.vox.com/2015/12/31/10694644/marijuana-legalization-winning

QuoteThe loosening of marijuana laws across much of the United States has increased competition from growers north of the border, apparently enough to drive down prices paid to Mexican farmers. Small-scale growers here in the state of Sinaloa, one of the country's biggest production areas, said that over the last four years the amount they receive per kilogram has fallen from $100 to $30.

The price decline appears to have led to reduced marijuana production in Mexico and a drop in trafficking to the U.S., according to officials on both sides of the border and available data.

QuoteThis was a predictable outcome of legalization, but still a big deal and welcome news. One of the major arguments for legal pot is that it will weaken drug cartels, cutting off a major source of revenue and inhibiting their ability to carry out violent acts — from mass murders to beheadings to extortion — around the world. And cannabis used to make up a significant chunk of cartels' drug export revenue: as much as 20 to 30 percent, according to previous estimates from the Mexican Institute of Competitiveness (2012) and the RAND Corporation (2010).

Will this be enough to completely eliminate drug cartels? Certainly not. These groups deal in far more than pot, including extortion and other drugs like cocaine and heroin.

Still, it will hurt. As the numbers above suggest, marijuana used to be a big source of drug cartels' revenue, and that's slowly but surely going away. It's still possible that legalization in America could produce downsides in the US, such as more cannabis abuse. But it's a potentially huge win for Mexico and other Latin American countries.

:lulz:
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2016, 05:08:28 PM
GOSH, HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE? The good guys at the DEA didn't predict it going like this!

Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:11:10 PM
B-but there's a WaPo article which quotes a study by the RAND corporation (experts on Latin America: 2.  Areas of expertise: Cuba and Islamic terrorism) which says otherwise!
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2016, 05:11:32 PM
And then there's Portugal, with drug addiction halved to 2nd lowest in the world and still dropping after 15 years of total decriminalization.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/05/why-hardly-anyone-dies-from-a-drug-overdose-in-portugal/
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
You may recall this exchange (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34331.795).
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 02, 2016, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
You may recall this exchange (http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=34331.795).

Oh yeah. One of his finest moments as a science-denier.  :lulz:
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Cainad (dec.) on January 07, 2016, 03:46:54 PM
Good god, how did you remember that well enough to find it? Those threads are all a blur to me.
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Faust on January 07, 2016, 04:53:18 PM
Lol, it even fell within the predicted percentage bands.
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Cain on January 07, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on January 07, 2016, 03:46:54 PM
Good god, how did you remember that well enough to find it? Those threads are all a blur to me.

It stood out as being egregiously stupid, even by the standards of those threads.  "Mexican criminologists/former police intelligence aren't experts!  Some dudes from RAND who study Cuba and terrorism know WAY MORE about the Mexican Cartels than people who have spent their whole law enforcement and academic career studying the cartels."

Quote from: Faust on January 07, 2016, 04:53:18 PM
Lol, it even fell within the predicted percentage bands.

It's almost like some kind of science or something.
Title: Re: Remember, pot legalization "won't significantly impact on the Mexican cartels"
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on January 08, 2016, 04:16:23 AM
 :lulz: