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SURPRISE! :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
He's not aging well, either. Oh the sweet tasty irony.
I remember when we found his den. Oh, the viciousness and hate! It was stunning and wonderful.
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on February 18, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
He's not aging well, either. Oh the sweet tasty irony.
He's got that thin-stretched cocaine-corpse look. Guess a lifetime of sleazy excess isn't actually good for you. Who could have guessed?
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on February 18, 2016, 08:53:36 PM
I remember when we found his den. Oh, the viciousness and hate! It was stunning and wonderful.
Please, please, please elaborate or linky me things. I knew that the PUAs had gotten into the cross hairs of the folks here, but I didn't know you went and found him in his chillspot or something.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 20, 2016, 08:47:34 PM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on February 18, 2016, 08:53:36 PM
I remember when we found his den. Oh, the viciousness and hate! It was stunning and wonderful.
Please, please, please elaborate or linky me things. I knew that the PUAs had gotten into the cross hairs of the folks here, but I didn't know you went and found him in his chillspot or something.
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/
Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2016, 09:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 20, 2016, 08:47:34 PM
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on February 18, 2016, 08:53:36 PM
I remember when we found his den. Oh, the viciousness and hate! It was stunning and wonderful.
Please, please, please elaborate or linky me things. I knew that the PUAs had gotten into the cross hairs of the folks here, but I didn't know you went and found him in his chillspot or something.
http://www.venusianarts.com/forum/
QuoteThere are currently 1045 users online. 86 members and 959 guests
That's some fucking horrormirth right there.
hxxp://www.venusianarts.com/forum/showthread.php/36423-Epic-night-This-is-the-extremely-short-version!!
QuoteOn Tuesday February 9th I had the most fun I've ever had in my pua career!!! I think this was because I was at a extremely big target rich environment... I'm talking more than 3,000 people was there... It was absolutely amazing and I had sooo much fun! To be fair I can't even write about all of my sets that I approached... Only because I approached so many women that it would be about 4 pages of a field report... Anyway.. As I got into this huge environment I felt a little off at first.. What I mean by this is I was just checking out the scene b4 I really got into approaching.. I guess I thought this was the safest option.. My first set was about a 6 set.. I opened this set with a hug.. I hugged every single woman in this set.. They were fairly receptive.. I'm learning to successfully open about 90% of the time.. What I would do is open my arm with a smile and let them know I want a hug... I would come in about 50% of the way and let her come In the rest...All of this is being conveyed through body language alone... I've repeated this tactic over 100 times yesterday.. And about 90% of women would respond to this... I was opening sets left to right.. Also,I think because the whole vibe of this city and how busy it was made me forget what I said in these interactions... Also, I'm noticing that when a group of women are really vibing all I have to do to hook them is come up really with the same amount of energy and dance with them.. This is fairly reliable... I LYTERALLY HAD SO MANY SETS ON THIS NIGHT THAT ITS LYTERALLY A BLUR!!!!!!!!!! I also, approached a 2 set... What really stuck out to me on this set was that the target was really hot... I negged her 3 times... After this she was extremely receptive.. One of the negs I through at her was,"she is sooo weird hahah!" <<<---- iod calibrator.... She kept asking me ,"so,how I am I weird huh??" Honestly I didn't know what to say after this... Her friend left and shortly she left... What I could have done is call her back and say ,"hey, before you go(and then a routine)" another set I approached was a 1 set... I opened with a hug and the same routine.. Me and this woman talked for about 15 min. I tried to get her in the club right by us but she wouldn't go in.. Saying how boring she was,how she's lame,and how she's no fun.. Just really talking down on her self.. This turned me away from her.. Which,this may have been a gambit, for her to get rid of me.. "If so very effective!" My next set was an indirect approach on my part to get this extremely hot 10! She was easily,hands down a 10!! I found it difficult to get her because of logistics... She was dancing on stage with a dress on... All of the other guys were falling all over her.. Giving her money just for her attention... Me I took a different route to set myself apart from all of these AFC's!!! So,what I did was completely ignore her... And pay attention to a less attractive women.. Me and this woman got to talking a lot and I was trying to build somewhat of a jealously Plotline... On a side note I noticed that after I was gaming "brace face" and she started to like me her friend,who b4 was kind of ignoring me, was more receptive to me in general... I don't know if this was because the 10 was getting all of the attention or because of what I was doing... But she became extremely receptive.. I really got brace face to invest in me by bending down and getting her to be extremely reactive to me! Also, I initiated the chat with brace face's friend by telling brace face to talk to her for me... This proved to be extremely successful and extremely effective! Now her friend was soon bending down to talk to me and and reacting to me.. This felt good but it was all in an effort to get the 10... I was hoping she seen all of this... Also, a waitress who carries around the drinks cought my attention as a social proof magnet.. I was trying to get social proof off of her.. So I kept rubbing her stomache.. "KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH HER I WAS ALSO TRYING TO STAND OUT BECAUSE ALL THE GUYS WERE GRABBING ASSES AND SEXUAL BODY PARTS....I WAS GOING FOR THINGS LIKE THE KNEES.. OR THE ELBOWS... The 10 JUST HAPPENED TO BE COMING NEAR ME. She actually danced right in front of me briefly.. She touched me.. But I moved out of the way.. She wasn't getting sexual but she was trying to lean on me to dance.. But it didn't seem like she was trying to dance with me but use my shoulder or hands to hold onto to dance.... WHICH NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT WAS AN IOI!!!!!! When I moved she kind of lost her balance... And then She went to a different spot... My next set was an Asian 2 set.. I opened with my hug...also, I told her ,"I seen you on stage doing your thing!" And this sparked a conversation... And the convo was short.. But they had to go back on stage... Something that I found interesting though was when I was on the strip this woman kept looking at me.. And a older woman that she was with asked me something and I told her I was a pimp.. Her,"you have to go with all that pimp shit.. Stop talking to my cousin" me,"what are u even talking about.. I'm having a good time chillen" a few minutes later she just starts dancing...
I suppose that when the master is an incredibly backwards cretin, there is little hope for the students.
We also did the Manhood Academy, but it seems they've completely revamped the site and there isn't any forum.
Wow thanks!
Junkenstein that story... :horrormirth:
I always have had a certain special hatred for their slang. AFC especially.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 20, 2016, 08:45:17 PM
Guess a lifetime of sleazy excess isn't actually good for you. Who could have guessed?
Wait what? This explains so much. Why wasn't I informed sooner? :eek: :horrormirth:
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:21:01 AM
Wow thanks!
Junkenstein that story... :horrormirth:
I always have had a certain special hatred for their slang. AFC especially.
That's just a shit-test because of your last minute resistance.
I've always had a special loathing for this kind of areshole based on the creepy lingo alone. As far as I can recall, any acronym I've had to figure out has always just been fucking horrible. That said, as far as I can tell everyone involved in this shit is a waste of carbon in general.
Also, as far as I can tell, the tl:dr version of that is:
QuoteHey guys, I went to a really large party, tried "negging" this hot chick but she called me on my bullshit. I managed to make some small talk with a woman for about 10 minutes. I then spoke with another two chicks for about 10 minutes, and creepily rubbed the waitress's stomach. I then spoke with a couple more ladies. I am such a pimp.
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 21, 2016, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 20, 2016, 08:45:17 PM
Guess a lifetime of sleazy excess isn't actually good for you. Who could have guessed?
Wait what? This explains so much. Why wasn't I informed sooner? :eek: :horrormirth:
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The difference is, you don't break every activity down to a 3 letter thing and then spend several hours analysing and wanking over it. I suspect that the constant evaluation/masturbation is why most of these fuckers look 15-20 years more worn than they usually are.
There's also the incredible irony that the more people seem to get involved with PUA shit, it drastically decreases their chances of actually connecting in any meaningful way with another human. This seems to create a lovely cycle where maladjusted dickheads get roped in, pay money and then pull the sunk cost fallacy until they either run out of money or hit rock bottom.
I'll never understand why people hand over money for this shit. It's like paying someone to ruin your life.
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
Also, as far as I can tell, the tl:dr version of that is:
QuoteHey guys, I went to a really large party, tried "negging" this hot chick but she called me on my bullshit. I managed to make some small talk with a woman for about 10 minutes. I then spoke with another two chicks for about 10 minutes, and creepily rubbed the waitress's stomach. I then spoke with a couple more ladies. I am such a pimp.
Pretty much!
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2016, 09:20:32 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:21:01 AM
Wow thanks!
Junkenstein that story... :horrormirth:
I always have had a certain special hatred for their slang. AFC especially.
That's just a shit-test because of your last minute resistance.
I didn't understand what this meant :?
It's PUA slang:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=last+minute+resistance
QuoteThe resistant behavior of women emotive circuit that elicits right before first-time sex is called last-minute resistance...
Every woman has hardwired into her head a behavioral circuit that works to protect her from getting pregnant by a man who has no intention of sticking around to help raise the child. The resistant behavior this emotive circuit elicits right before first-time sex is called last-minute resistance. It is your job to ease her through this uncomfortable emotion should it arise. Having sex carries a much larger risk and investment for a woman than it does for a man from an evolutionary perspective. Last-minute resistance is her last line of defense before the point of no return.
A woman's LMR threshold may differ from person to person, and a woman's own LMR threshold will change depending on the value of the man she is about to sleep with and other circumstances. Here are some common last minute resistance threshold points:
1.Kissing
2.Touching breasts
3.Top removal
Shit test
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shit+test
QuoteA test that a girl performs on a male by saying or doing something to judge the reaction or response from him.
I talked all the night and didn't let that chick perform her shit tests on me man, until she got drunk.
We went out together and everything was great. But, I failed one shit test, and got dumped.
Yes. they really do think this way
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 21, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
I've always had a special loathing for this kind of areshole based on the creepy lingo alone. As far as I can recall, any acronym I've had to figure out has always just been fucking horrible. That said, as far as I can tell everyone involved in this shit is a waste of carbon in general.
They are basically a well crafted cult. The proprietary lingo goes with the rest of what they really sell, the sense of being superior just by buying their shit. My evil side even admires the craftsmanship of it, but only that.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on February 21, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
I've always had a special loathing for this kind of areshole based on the creepy lingo alone. As far as I can recall, any acronym I've had to figure out has always just been fucking horrible. That said, as far as I can tell everyone involved in this shit is a waste of carbon in general.
They are basically a well crafted cult. The proprietary lingo goes with the rest of what they really sell, the sense of being superior just by buying their shit. My evil side even admires the craftsmanship of it, but only that.
It basically grew out of attempts to apply NLP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming#NLP_as_quasi-religion) to getting laid, so this is no surprise.
I think I get it now. Thanks Cain!
That definition... made my brain feel wrong. I think it's because for most people the "last minute resistance" isn't an abstract thing to be circumvented. It's a person who may have second thoughts. It's dehumanizing... I'd go so far as to say diabolical. "Venusian" arts indeed. :kingmeh:
"Rapey Arts" didn't have as many positive associations with test audiences
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2016, 02:38:44 PM
"Rapey Arts" didn't have as many positive associations with test audiences
"Manufacturing Consent" was taken..
I'm a bad person.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 21, 2016, 02:38:44 PM
"Rapey Arts" didn't have as many positive associations with test audiences
"Manufacturing Consent" was taken..
I'm a bad person.
:D You're both very funny persons.
The shittiest part is that at least some of the guys who are paying for these scumbags to teach them the mystical arts of getting laid and getting a girlfriend are not actually bad people, they are just socially inept and believe the hype that wimminz is so differnt. There has to be some. So the bullshit they peddle about how a man has to act is damaging to them because these guys don't know any better.
Or something.
Quote from: Choppas an' Sluggas on February 21, 2016, 04:55:06 PM
The shittiest part is that at least some of the guys who are paying for these scumbags to teach them the mystical arts of getting laid and getting a girlfriend are not actually bad people, they are just socially inept and believe the hype that wimminz is so differnt. There has to be some. So the bullshit they peddle about how a man has to act is damaging to them because these guys don't know any better.
Or something.
Some of their info isn't so bad in itself and could even help a shy person or someone that just never got comfortable with sexual social interaction. I'm sure that there's been a bit of incidental good from their efforts, but that isn't where the money comes from, and they know it. I'm kinda tempted to "counter-market" them one day, but that would have to be a very firm decision if I took it seriously. There's a non-sleazy basic framework of concepts that they approach. Things like body language reading and a certain amount of the techniques for "set opening" or approaching a group of strangers. Thing is, the exact same basic knowledge is useful in a non-sexual context. That's how I separate the wheat from the chaff. I ask myself "would this be useful outside of the predatory context of the marketing."
For the counter-marketing to work it would simply need to appeal to a wider audience and openly shame the creepy and profoundly misogynistic and cis centric cult they've already built. This way folks may buy to learn or buy to "counter the enemy". Either way the cash rakes in and business expands.
Oh yeah, totally. Having good hygiene, taking pride in how you look, be confident, be open about what you support and believe in (apparently, this is "branding" and falls under long-term social proof), these are all really good, positive things that are PUA basics. These, combined with techniques on how to approach strangers, are about all that's good. The rest is :vom:
You could use their approach to advertising themselves and their services, under the right circumstances and tweaked a bit.
I'm gonna spend a minute killing all these minecraft zombies and then come back to this.
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 06:49:17 PM
Some of their info isn't so bad in itself and could even help a shy person or someone that just never got comfortable with sexual social interaction.
Teaching people to manipulate others does not help them.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2016, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on February 21, 2016, 06:49:17 PM
Some of their info isn't so bad in itself and could even help a shy person or someone that just never got comfortable with sexual social interaction.
Teaching people to manipulate others does not help them.
See and there's a line to be drawn. Reading body language and responding in kind with your own can manipulate. Just the knowledge could prevent you from missing a clear positive signal, or it could potentially save your life in rough company.
A directly subversive technique like vile "negging" is outright disgusting and exploitative.
I guess what would be needed is an ethical code in place of their distorted sense of priority and use of knowledge. Perhaps an emphasis on genuine expression and self-value? I don't know. You make a damn good point.