<think of a meaningful introduction, poignant, personal, crude, and yet funny.... now imagine you read that here>
platonic relationship
.... um.. does anyone read the greeks anymore!?!!! the short and skinny of it was that a group of philosophers were discussing was is love, all of them, including Socrates (plato's mentor), agreed that while passion can exist between a man and a woman for the procreation of the line, love can only exist between a man and a young boy, Plato on the other hand disagreed vehemently arguing that love and passion is what exists between a man and a woman... so while most of us use the phrase to mean a non-sexual friendship between people of opposite genders, more acurately that friendship would be a socratic relationship, and a sexual reationship would infact be a platonic one.
Tragedy
Everytime something bad happens, or a bus load of kindergardeners runs off the road flips over 17 times and hits a tanker truck hauling gas at 80mph, they call it a "tragedy". Well.. it's not a fucking tragedy! Tragedy is a literary term that describes a story in which the protaganist is either killed or brought to ruin due to their possession of a virtue taken to the extreme point of being their fatal flaw (Such characters are of graced with the "Christ-Like" sorbiquet). the fuggin word comes from the greek "tragoita" meaning "goat's song", in reference to the ancient greek tradition of 'giving' your 'sins' or transgressions to the goat and then sacrificing it, so that your sins would die with it. So unless the people/person killed/harmed by the event was done so through exploitation of their extreme virtuous nature, then it's not a tragedy.. it's just a shitty day for them.
or I suppose if you placed all of you sin on your five-year-old before walking him to the bus stop, then waiting to slap a small explosive charge behind the Bus' wheel-well, waving to you kid the last time and chuckling about how he'd always said he liked roller-coasters...... then ok..you could call it a treagedy....
Ironic.
a while back Alanis Morrisette had a semi-popular song entitled "Ironic", now either she is a literary genius or just another illiterate fuck! You see during the course of the song she presents a whole host of situations, now here's the kicker, the only shred of irony in the whole crappy song is the fact that the title is "ironic", while the situations presented are unfortunate, not one of them is infact ironic... genius..or ignorance...personally she doesn't strike me as the real cerebral type... If I had to guess I'd say she's about 15 IQ points away from shitting herself.. ignorant cunt anyways.. but she is not alone..Irony is a difficult concept and is a beautiful and rare thing that is all too often mistaken for a bad timing.
-Rev.Fuggit
*picks her nose and stares blankly at the screen while drooling*
Edit: OK, I was joking.
That was interesting.
Yeah, very much so.
Im glad you bought up the tragedy thing. That always pissed me off, almost more than the described situation itself (make of that what you will). Glad to see someone is keeping the classical tradition alive!
i'm tragically hip.
Quote from: Levis Carroll
I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.'
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
`Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?'
`Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'
`That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
`When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, `I always pay it extra.'
`Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
`Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night,' Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side, `for to get their wages, you know.'
gnimbly, that one of my favorite parts of that book.
And, to say kind of the same thing, a Sandman quote.
Quote"You're gay?"
"You know, I've never liked gay as a synonym for queer. Renders a perfectly decent word hors de combat. Lost philological battle, though, there.
"Then there's the continual misuse of the word "hopefully" as well. And anticipate" to mean "expect"... But I'm burbling, aren't I?"
"Sure sounds like it."
Pfft. Alanis Morissette is one of my Goddesses (along with Sarah McLauglin, and Anna Nalick).
Now, go shit yourself. You ugly ignorant fuck. Before I am forced to give you a colon cleaning with fire hose, and put a catheder the size of my arm into your tiny penis. Ugly fucking cunt bitch. I hope you get stuck in heaven with JESUS. Bitch.
Whoa :shock:
Zurtok, do you need some Midol?
So Alanis doesn't know WTF "Ironic" means. Doesn't make her any less of a Goddess does it? Chill......
:P
Aw, he didn't mean that in a BAD way. It's like Utah Cockney.
<puts on Zurtok hat>
Go shit yourself = Right on, good show my man!
You ugly ignorant fuck = The brilliance of your reasoning is fascinating and far outshadows your beauty. Let's be platonic.
Colong cleansing with fire hose = However, I would also like to look after your health and well-being as I like you so. Let's be Japanese.
Catheder(sic) size of arm up tiny penis = Rawr.
Ugly fucking cunt bitch = You remind me of my sainted mother whom I also loved dearly. It burns!
Stuck in heaven with Jesus = Let us be like altar boys and seek the light, my child. Our love is not a sin.
Bitch = Bitch.
The baby jesus = Crying.
I never thought about platonic relationships quite like that before.
Of all the things to be passionate about Zurtok, you choose alanis Morsette? I like her, but... Alanis? That's so hardcore.Edited to add clarification.
Irony: Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
It´s like rain on your wedding day: that's not ironic, thats just crappy luck.
It´s a free ride when you´ve already paid: not ironic either, just crappy luck again.
It´s the good advice that you just didn´t take: that's not ironic, that's just stupid. somebody gave you good advice and you didn't take it.
A traffic jam when you´re already late: that's morning commute in L.A.
It´s like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife: W...T...F...mate...
It´s meeting the man of my dreams
And then meeting his beautiful wife: crappy luck...again.
'Ironic': the song title is the only ironic thing about the song.
Topics like this just go to remind me why when I'm looking for a good standup comic on one of my friends television the only thing I can find is a lot of bad 80's haircuts against that stupid brick wall.
I almost think this thread should have been called "The ironic tradgedy of platonic relationships."
or at least "Ain't it the Darndest Thing that Alanis Morissette blows goats?"
i don't care what word 'really mean', or how they're 'supposed to mean', i only care about how people use them. i figure since people use tragedy to mean something sad that happens, then i'll assume it's that. i don't care if it originally meant " a literary term that describes a story in which the protaganist is either killed or brought to ruin due to their possession of a virtue taken to the extreme point of being their fatal flaw", people hardly ever use it that way, so what's the point in considering that the meaning of the word any more.
I second ol' Humpty Dumpty.
Lol, I'm quite surprised you took me seriously.
(Note to self: Find a goat)
lol, i'm quite surprised you took me seriously?
Quote
three thousand frogs
when all you need is a toad.
(Stick Figure Ninja : four frames of fun, Thu 5 Aug, 23:51, Reply)
Isn't that ironic? It's like ten billion forks on your wedding day, or toast and jam when all you need is a poly-propylene based polymer. Or something.
Sorry. Gettin' the crazies again...
(The Neville : Tetriatic Underscore Factory, Thu 5 Aug, 23:54, Reply)
http://www.b3ta.com/board/3560997
Quote from: HotsumaIrony: Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
Kind of like expecting rock stars to treat the English language the same way English Professors do?
QuoteIt´s like rain on your wedding day: that's not ironic, thats just crappy luck.
The ironic thing is that people expect 'nice' weather on their wedding day
QuoteIt´s a free ride when you´ve already paid: not ironic either, just crappy luck again.
Ironic to the person you paid, you get for free what you already paid for and they aren't out anything.
QuoteIt´s the good advice that you just didn´t take: that's not ironic, that's just stupid. somebody gave you good advice and you didn't take it.
It's ironic to the person who gave you the advice. Plus they get to say'I told you so:P
QuoteA traffic jam when you´re already late: that's morning commute in L.A.
No, what's ironic is that never fucking happens when you are 15 minutes early. The you are standing around for 15 minutes with your thumb up your ass because you were stupid enough to leave early enough to allow for a fucking traffic jam that never happens
QuoteIt´s like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife: W...T...F...mate...
Where I work we have the opposite problem. We get lots of take out. Noone ever used their knives, they just stuck them somewhere in the lunch room area. At one point we had like 50 plastic knives, no spoons, forks or even sporks but we had 50 knives. You can cut with a spoon if you have to, but you can't eat soup with a knife.
QuoteIt´s meeting the man of my dreams And then meeting his beautiful wife: crappy luck...again.
That is just stupid. How do you know he's the man of your dreams if you don't know him well enough to know he is married?
Quote'Ironic': the song title is the only ironic thing about the song.
:shock: :roll: :? :roll:
Except that now I don't know if anything I just said made any sense because the word ironic has lost all meaning. Is LMNO hiding in here somewhere?!?
*takes a que from St. Hugh (he who is a shit head whom I love!)*
*stabs Eldora*
*stabs LMNO*
*stabs everyone else*
*frolics with St. Hugh*
Quote from: Saint Zurtok Ah.D.*takes a que from St. Hugh (he who is a shit head whom I love!)*
*stabs Eldora*
*stabs LMNO*
*stabs everyone else*
*frolics with St. Hugh*
<in a sing song voice>
I'm wearing chain mail under there........
.......I just made you say underwear!!!
</in a sing song voice>
*stabs Zooturk thrice and thrice again for all of us and all else*
ps wtf did I do this time :(
Quote from: Slartibartfastlol, i'm quite surprised you took me seriously?
Let's
all lol, shall we?
Quote from: HoshikoQuote from: Slartibartfastlol, i'm quite surprised you took me seriously?
Let's all lol, shall we?
lol to all and to all a lol night! fuckers!
*fucks Horab*
I dunno Eld, I just felt that you needed it.
*gang rapes Horab*
thanks i think. was it good for you?
It was great for me.
Did you enjoy the gang raping by my multiple personalities?
Quote from: Mahatma ZurtokLol, I'm quite surprised you took me seriously.
(Note to self: Find a goat)
you know, we DO just happen to have one of those here,... ::halo::