Principia Discordia

Cube mate thought they have made contact, but are playing politics.

Quote from: Trivial on February 05, 2019, 02:23:44 PM
Cube mate thought they have made contact, but are playing politics.

That would be the lizard-men who are playing politics.  But they're not aliens, they're indigenous to Earth.

There is a big sign 20 lightyears in each direction from earth saying "Avoid, primate infestation"

Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 05, 2019, 02:48:54 PM

Quote from: Trivial on February 05, 2019, 02:23:44 PM
Cube mate thought they have made contact, but are playing politics.

That would be the lizard-men who are playing politics.  But they're not aliens, they're indigenous to Earth.

They're playing politics because it's immoral to kill us off, but if we're gonna kill each other, that's ok.

They haven't made contact because apparently Mary Poppins is racist because chimney sweeps get soot on them and nobody in England has ever sung a song.

This is why *I* don't make contact with the stupid humans.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2019, 05:23:05 PM
They haven't made contact because apparently Mary Poppins is racist because chimney sweeps get soot on them and nobody in England has ever sung a song.

This is why *I* don't make contact with the stupid humans.

Wat

Quote from: Trivial on February 05, 2019, 05:33:18 PM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2019, 05:23:05 PM
They haven't made contact because apparently Mary Poppins is racist because chimney sweeps get soot on them and nobody in England has ever sung a song.

This is why *I* don't make contact with the stupid humans.

Wat

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/is-mary-poppins-a-racist-movie-critical-new-york-times-op-ed-sparks-heated-debate/ar-BBTbuAf?ocid=spartanntp

For those who wish to read the op-ed:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/movies/mary-poppins-returns-blackface.html

In summary: While not RACIST racist, the original novels were steeped in White Superiority (as was the fashion of the time).  The original Disney movie kept some of these elements, probably not to be RACIST racist (though Walt was pretty sketchy -- Song of the South, anyone?), but most likely because the terms were outdated ("Hottentot"), not to mention that it surely wasn't noticed, as White Superiority was still in fashion in '64.  The two following sequels are also not RACIST racist, because while they continue the throughline to the original books (naturally, since it's the same story), the amount of people who know about the not-so-nice parts of the original rapidly approach zero.  Plus, even today, there's still a strong attitude of white supremacy in this country.

So yeah, on the face of it, it's kind of ridiculous.  But not 100% absurd, just absurd enough to get into the NYT op-ed section.





EDIT: Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

I'd bet my flying saucer that aliens have MUCH bigger problems, and are therefore too busy to contact every godforsaken planet in this galaxy. Thank Eris there's not any strategic importance, or alien equivalent of oil in our solar system.

edit:Maybe they're shy. We haven't contacted them after all.

The aliens are here, and have been here for a very long time. You think stupid humans could have built the pyramids, digital watches, or spray cheese? Pshaw!

In reality, all powerful world leaders, billionaires, etc are in fact just CGI characters running on some alien computer. Hillary Clinton, George Soros, Donald Trump, even Sean Hannity, all simulated by some quantum doohickey disguised as an old enV3 phone in some alien's pocket.

The aliens themselves are just bored teenagers (or whatever the equivalent is for their species) out for a laugh.

Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2019, 06:43:18 PM
For those who wish to read the op-ed:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/movies/mary-poppins-returns-blackface.html

In summary: While not RACIST racist, the original novels were steeped in White Superiority (as was the fashion of the time).  The original Disney movie kept some of these elements, probably not to be RACIST racist (though Walt was pretty sketchy -- Song of the South, anyone?), but most likely because the terms were outdated ("Hottentot"), not to mention that it surely wasn't noticed, as White Superiority was still in fashion in '64.  The two following sequels are also not RACIST racist, because while they continue the throughline to the original books (naturally, since it's the same story), the amount of people who know about the not-so-nice parts of the original rapidly approach zero.  Plus, even today, there's still a strong attitude of white supremacy in this country.

So yeah, on the face of it, it's kind of ridiculous.  But not 100% absurd, just absurd enough to get into the NYT op-ed section.





EDIT: Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Didn't think about the books.

Reminds me, I have travel books written between 1904 - 1924 that are really interesting about how an American viewed various nationalities.  Not as racist as expected, but still racist.  Dude thought the Japanese were wonderful.  Also wrote something like "The air is filled with optimism in Russia for the new government"  :horrormirth:

Also he thought bears made excellent pets.

1. I think Aliens haven't gotten in contact because they are not organisms in the same sense that we understand. They may be trying to talk to our cells, or our Internet

2. I'm obligated to mention that PL Travers (author of mary poppins) was a Gurdjieff follower - apparently the novels after the first one cram a lot of Gurdjieff into her shtick. Later in the series, I think they reveal that she's a cosmic being, like Gandalf. So maybe Poppins is the alien we're talking about here.

which leads me to ask


Why hasn't Mary Poppins made contact with Roger?

Maybe the real aliens are the friends crackpot theories we made along the way.

 :lulz:

All I know is that if some wise race of Galactic Space Brothers or some shit comes by, we should fuck them up real bad.

Dok,
Thinks those Sentinelese islanders have the right idea.

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Why hasn't Mary Poppins made contact with Roger?

Who says she hasn't?

Spit-spot, motherfuckers.

Quote from: Cain on February 05, 2019, 08:28:43 PM
Maybe the real aliens are the friends crackpot theories we made along the way.

:lulz:

Quote from: LMNO on February 05, 2019, 06:43:18 PM
For those who wish to read the op-ed:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/28/movies/mary-poppins-returns-blackface.html

In summary: While not RACIST racist, the original novels were steeped in White Superiority (as was the fashion of the time).  The original Disney movie kept some of these elements, probably not to be RACIST racist (though Walt was pretty sketchy -- Song of the South, anyone?), but most likely because the terms were outdated ("Hottentot"), not to mention that it surely wasn't noticed, as White Superiority was still in fashion in '64.  The two following sequels are also not RACIST racist, because while they continue the throughline to the original books (naturally, since it's the same story), the amount of people who know about the not-so-nice parts of the original rapidly approach zero.  Plus, even today, there's still a strong attitude of white supremacy in this country.

So yeah, on the face of it, it's kind of ridiculous.  But not 100% absurd, just absurd enough to get into the NYT op-ed section.





EDIT: Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

It just occurred to me that we can't have any art at all.  For example, Picasso's Guernica involves cruelty to animals (in this case, a horse).  The Brandenburg Gate extolls imperialism, as does the Arc de Triomphe.  The Mona Lisa is clearly exploiting trans folk, and don't even get me started on any Greek statues or ANYTHING by Rubens.


In short, you get Starry Starry Night and maybe some song about going to the faire.  Which is probably itself exploitative.

That's one way to look at it, Roger. I have always approached it as: this media has problems and it's my duty to know them if I want to enjoy the media.

Lovecraft was racist and I think he was a shitty author. But Hodgson was just as racist and an excellent author. I can be aware of the racism rather than passively accepting it, and still consume it "as what it is". I think most relatively progressive people who read famous authors of the last century do that same sorta thing, not like they have a choice.

Because it's as you say. There is no wholly non problematic media. Everything is fucked, all the way back. The only way to move forward without burning the whole of human culture is to be aware of the problems and try not to repeat them. And well make new and different mistakes in the process, and our descendants will keep that steady trudge forward.

And I don't feel like this endless cycle is hopeless. No end goal doesn't mean it isn't worth improving our cultural output at all.

All of this, though? Just my opinion. YMMV.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
maybe some song about going to the faire. 

Capitalist pig.

Quote from: LMNO on February 06, 2019, 01:40:37 PM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 05, 2019, 10:08:59 PM
maybe some song about going to the faire. 

Capitalist pig.

Meat is murder how dare you call him a pig

Not apologizing here, but I believe it's been noted that Lovecraft adjusted his views on other races in letters to friends toward the end of his life. Now that doesn't change the stories that exist which are ride with racism, but I guess my question is, do we believe in redemption? And does that take more than sinply changing one's views?

Quote from: Hoopla! on February 06, 2019, 04:54:43 PM
Not apologizing here, but I believe it's been noted that Lovecraft adjusted his views on other races in letters to friends toward the end of his life. Now that doesn't change the stories that exist which are ride with racism, but I guess my question is, do we believe in redemption? And does that take more than sinply changing one's views?

No, you pretty much have to walk back shit you already said.  As a minimum.  Greater wrongs will require greater expiation.

What I'm getting at is that if you use presentism as your basis for judgment, you get a lot of things, but none of those things include our artistic heritage. 

What that means is you get a pure, sterile culture that is pure and sterile because there's nothing there.

Only if you believe that work should be rejected because of it.

I'm coming around to the fact that I am STEEPED in white supremacy.  I grew up in it.  All the systems and the entire culture that raised me is rife with racism.

So it's natural to understand that historically, almost all the art I grew up with has a similar background.

So what do?



For me, it means acknowledging and understanding it.  It doesn't mean pretending it never existed, and it doesn't mean rejecting it out of hand.  Sure, there are works that are blatantly racist. (RACIST racist, in my above nomenclature). 

But to ignore that, for example, "The Shawshank Redemption" has some fairly troubling ideas about race and sexuality is to ignore that there was, and is, a problem with modern culture.

Quote from: LMNO on February 06, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
Only if you believe that work should be rejected because of it.

I'm coming around to the fact that I am STEEPED in white supremacy.  I grew up in it.  All the systems and the entire culture that raised me is rife with racism.

So it's natural to understand that historically, almost all the art I grew up with has a similar background.

So what do?



For me, it means acknowledging and understanding it.  It doesn't mean pretending it never existed, and it doesn't mean rejecting it out of hand.  Sure, there are works that are blatantly racist. (RACIST racist, in my above nomenclature). 

But to ignore that, for example, "The Shawshank Redemption" has some fairly troubling ideas about race and sexuality is to ignore that there was, and is, a problem with modern culture.

I think we're yelling agreement past each other.  One of the primary reasons to have art in the first place is so that you can understand the times of the people who created it.  Sometimes, that's good.  Sometimes not so good.  I don't believe, for example, in letting people off the hook for Birth of a Nation by pretending it never existed.  Sometimes your artwork damns you.

On the other hand, hollering that chimney sweeps are performing blackface and that Victorian/Edwardian-era cockney singing and rhyming are mimicking minstrel shows is just plain stupid and in fact reflects on the critic as being too fucking stupid to read the side of the tin. It is in fact an indictment of the very idea of homo sapiens, and an argument for an immediate and unlimited nuclear exchange.

And won't THAT impress the fucking aliens?

I agree with you both, I think. Some of Lovecraft does fall under racist racist for me, but the majority falls into that general area LMNO talks about. I agree with not rejecting out of hand, but I find it easier to swallow if the artist acknowledges it and attempts to change. Seuss is an example of that. I think Lovecraft might have become such an artist, unfortunately he died shortly after his views started to evolve. It might have been interesting to see how his writing changed.

And I fully agree with Howl above. Putting anything black on your face is not blackface. That's not to say Travers might have held racist views, but if so, these ain't them.

Quote from: Hoopla! on February 06, 2019, 06:47:11 PM
I agree with you both, I think. Some of Lovecraft does fall under racist racist for me, but the majority falls into that general area LMNO talks about. I agree with not rejecting out of hand, but I find it easier to swallow if the artist acknowledges it and attempts to change. Seuss is an example of that. I think Lovecraft might have become such an artist, unfortunately he died shortly after his views started to evolve. It might have been interesting to see how his writing changed.

And I fully agree with Howl above. Putting anything black on your face is not blackface. That's not to say Travers might have held racist views, but if so, these ain't them.

Seuss?

This is gonna piss me off, right?

Yes, but that's just the default setting.

Quote from: LMNO on February 06, 2019, 06:59:37 PM
Yes, but that's just the default setting.

Balls, I am polite and soft-spoken, and spend most of my time contemplating those chakra things.

(https://www.nepr.net/sites/wfcr/files/styles/x_large/public/201709/seuss_cartoon_0.png)

He did a fair amount of racist propaganda during WWII, I believe he is on record after the fact regretting it, but my memory has become unreliable.

EDIT: Perfect example LMNO found.

There is nothing that is good.  Everything has poo on it.

This is all normal, Dok.

Quote from: LMNO on February 06, 2019, 08:43:15 PM
This is all normal, Dok.

The dems are going to be back out in Virginia, because apparently every single elected dem has pics in blackface.

So if they all resign, in order, Cox (R) will be governor.

This is exactly why aliens don't visit us.  One side is bad, the other side is worse, and everyone is too dumb to avoid cameras while they're being stupid and evil.  This country deserves everything it gets.

So, yeah, why haven't aliens visited us?  Because we are the backwoods pobucker trailer park of the galaxy, where everyone has confederate flags and swastikas in their front fucking yard.

And here's the fucked up thing:  If aliens ever DID visit us, they'd be the kind of aliens that would wear human face and smugly claim that they've been invited to the BBQ, and maybe say that they've been "cleared" to use our slang.  Fuck them, too.  We can get that kind of behavior at home, and we DO.  There is no point in asking goodness from humans, because they don't have any to give, and there is precisely zero reason to assume that aliens would be any better.

So there is no reason to be anything but pragmatic about whatever it is we worry about, just to get us through til we die.  And then presumably find out that heaven is a gated, "exclusive" community.

This is why I hate you.

For me, Dok, I see all of that and I'm motivated to be better than that. No one will remember my name when I die, but on the off chance someone recovers old internet records. I want my epitaph, set in digital format: "She tried at least."

Because you're absolutely right. And I think you're going to be right forever. But as long as I see a way to be a better person, I'll be damned if I'm gonna stop trying my hardest to do so. It's tilting at windmills, but so is everything in this life. So, I might as well be happy with /myself/, even if everyone else knows as well as I do that it's pointless wank.

Quote from: nullified on February 06, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
For me, Dok, I see all of that and I'm motivated to be better than that. No one will remember my name when I die, but on the off chance someone recovers old internet records. I want my epitaph, set in digital format: "She tried at least."

Because you're absolutely right. And I think you're going to be right forever. But as long as I see a way to be a better person, I'll be damned if I'm gonna stop trying my hardest to do so. It's tilting at windmills, but so is everything in this life. So, I might as well be happy with /myself/, even if everyone else knows as well as I do that it's pointless wank.

The good news is that "forever" means "somewhere between 20-100 years", because not only are humans essentially evil, they're also dumb as fuck and shit in their own nest.

The only justification for human survival is to go out to the stars and make sure everything else in the galaxy is dead before we go extinct, because it would be nice for the place to be tidy.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 09:35:59 PM

Quote from: nullified on February 06, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
For me, Dok, I see all of that and I'm motivated to be better than that. No one will remember my name when I die, but on the off chance someone recovers old internet records. I want my epitaph, set in digital format: "She tried at least."

Because you're absolutely right. And I think you're going to be right forever. But as long as I see a way to be a better person, I'll be damned if I'm gonna stop trying my hardest to do so. It's tilting at windmills, but so is everything in this life. So, I might as well be happy with /myself/, even if everyone else knows as well as I do that it's pointless wank.

The good news is that "forever" means "somewhere between 20-100 years", because not only are humans essentially evil, they're also dumb as fuck and shit in their own nest.

The only justification for human survival is to go out to the stars and make sure everything else in the galaxy is dead before we go extinct, because it would be nice for the place to be tidy.

There's always baseless, pointless hope for collective self improvement.

What?

I never said I was doing this for realistic reasons.

Quote from: nullified on February 06, 2019, 09:37:44 PM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 09:35:59 PM

Quote from: nullified on February 06, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
For me, Dok, I see all of that and I'm motivated to be better than that. No one will remember my name when I die, but on the off chance someone recovers old internet records. I want my epitaph, set in digital format: "She tried at least."

Because you're absolutely right. And I think you're going to be right forever. But as long as I see a way to be a better person, I'll be damned if I'm gonna stop trying my hardest to do so. It's tilting at windmills, but so is everything in this life. So, I might as well be happy with /myself/, even if everyone else knows as well as I do that it's pointless wank.

The good news is that "forever" means "somewhere between 20-100 years", because not only are humans essentially evil, they're also dumb as fuck and shit in their own nest.

The only justification for human survival is to go out to the stars and make sure everything else in the galaxy is dead before we go extinct, because it would be nice for the place to be tidy.

There's always baseless, pointless hope for collective self improvement.

What?

I never said I was doing this for realistic reasons.

If Doctor Seuss couldn't cut it, nobody can.

I am waiting for the allegations of sexual misconduct on the part of Mr Rogers.  You and I both know it's just a fucking matter of time.

Note:  I will not thank the person that shows them to me.

See, the key there is that statement, "nobody can". For you that means "torch it," for me I wonder how close we can get.

I can answer that.

Virginia, in the news:

Governor Northam (D):  Pic in blackface.  Unclear if it was him or he was somehow involved with it.  Pic came to light after Northam defended a woman's right to choose.
Lieutenant Governor Fairfax (D):   Weird sexual abuse allegations, not backed up, AG Herring says he has to go (on accusations alone). THEN:
Attorney General Herring (D):  Immediately outed for himself wearing blackface.  Fuck's sake, he's only 6 years older than me and NOBODY in the 80s thought that was okay.
Speaker Cox (R):  Smiling like the cat that ate the canary.  Only there are now rumblings about HIM.
There is no 5th in line for governor.  At that point, the republican state congress selects the new governor.

And I'd like to add that politicians are just people who are more likely to have their lives scrutinized.

Here's the Fairfax thing:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fairfax-accuser-issues-statement-detailing-alleged-assault/ar-BBTg1tC?ocid=spartanntp

This is a binary situation:  Either She is telling the truth and HE is scum, or she is lying and SHE is scum.  At BEST, 50% of the humans involved are scum.  And this is only one day out of their lives.  I bet the other days aren't shiny happy children frolicking in the wildflowers, either.

I tried to write a response but I can't manage it without talking about my own life choices in these areas (be good even if you don't believe you need to) vs the apparent truth in these cases (they might believe their own shit but they don't act upon it). Which just makes me sound holier than thou when I'm a foul little gremlin like everyone else.

So I'll leave it at the above for now, and mention that I wish there were an easy and snappy way to say "I'm doing better things than these people seem to have done but that doesn't mean I'm inherently any better than them."

Quote from: nullified on February 06, 2019, 09:55:25 PM
I tried to write a response but I can't manage it without talking about my own life choices in these areas (be good even if you don't believe you need to) vs the apparent truth in these cases (they might believe their own shit but they don't act upon it). Which just makes me sound holier than thou when I'm a foul little gremlin like everyone else.

So I'll leave it at the above for now, and mention that I wish there were an easy and snappy way to say "I'm doing better things than these people seem to have done but that doesn't mean I'm inherently any better than them."

Nobody thinks they're the bad guy¹.  Humans don't set out to be scum, they are simply scum because they are incapable of not doing scummy things.  I mean, what benefit is gained by putting shoe polish on your fucking face?  None.  And they do it anyfuckingway, then they run off to a life of PUBLIC SCRUTINY.  Because humans.  Humans are defective factory second bullshit for which you will get neither a refund nor an exchange.




¹  Except me, obviously.

Even on the rare occasion when humans TRY to make things better, they just fuck it up and everything becomes scum.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-has-apologised-after-handing-out-creepy-diet-coke-napkins-to-passengers-encouraging-them-to-give-their-number-to-their-plane-crush/ar-BBTfnk8?ocid=spartanntp

Travelling even to the nearer stars requires a huge amount of energy and time.  We have enough trouble getting to the moon, and that's practically walking distance.  This isn't just a problem of technology; it's a problem of basic physics.  Getting into and out of gravity wells is expensive.  Speeding up enough to get anywhere in less than a thousand years is expensive.  Carrying the fuel with you to do these things is super-expensive.

Since intelligent life isn't likely to be very common in the universe (there isn't any in our solar system, at least), I would guess that most technologically developed alien species are pretty far away.  If they're capable of visiting us, they either have knowledge of physics that vastly exceeds our own, or they are so resource- and energy-rich that crossing a few hundred light years isn't a big deal.  Either way, we'd be massively outclassed.

Us wondering why the aliens haven't contacted us is like a small ant colony wondering why the humans haven't contacted them.  We're either beneath their notice, or a minor nuisance to be exterminated.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 09:45:23 PM
I can answer that.

Virginia, in the news:

Governor Northam (D):  Pic in blackface.  Unclear if it was him or he was somehow involved with it.  Pic came to light after Northam defended a woman's right to choose.
Lieutenant Governor Fairfax (D):   Weird sexual abuse allegations, not backed up, AG Herring says he has to go (on accusations alone). THEN:
Attorney General Herring (D):  Immediately outed for himself wearing blackface.  Fuck's sake, he's only 6 years older than me and NOBODY in the 80s thought that was okay.
Speaker Cox (R):  Smiling like the cat that ate the canary.  Only there are now rumblings about HIM.
There is no 5th in line for governor.  At that point, the republican state congress selects the new governor.

Not sure if you know, but it gets weirder.  The only reason Cox is the speaker is because the GOP-let legislature voted for him.

The only reason the legislature is GOP-led is because of the midterms, with a very tight single race putting them in the majority.

How tight was the race?  It was declared a tie, and the winner was chosen by... flipping a coin¹.

So if the Virginia Shame Cascade happens, the only reason the new Govenor will be Republican is purely due to random chance.





¹Technically, it was "drawing lots", but since it's a 50/50 outcome, a coinflip has a better ring to it.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 09:59:28 PM
I mean, what benefit is gained by putting shoe polish on your fucking face?  None.  And they do it anyfuckingway, then they run off to a life of PUBLIC SCRUTINY.  Because humans.

You know who forms a large majority of people who never thought that blackface and sexual assault are acceptable?



Women of color.



New rule: any politician removed from office for being a terrible person is to be replaced by a minority woman.

On the other hand, maybe Virginia is experiencing karmic retribution for being where the Capitol of the Confederacy was. (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/virginia-sergeant-suspended-white-supremacist-affiliation.html)

Quote from: LMNO on February 07, 2019, 02:13:28 PM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 09:59:28 PM
I mean, what benefit is gained by putting shoe polish on your fucking face?  None.  And they do it anyfuckingway, then they run off to a life of PUBLIC SCRUTINY.  Because humans.

You know who forms a large majority of people who never thought that blackface and sexual assault are acceptable?



Women of color.



New rule: any politician removed from office for being a terrible person is to be replaced by a minority woman.

Everyone is evil.  They will have different bad habits, but they are *all* evil.  A minority woman is still a human.  Still dumb & evil.

One order of Horribleness^TM at a time, my good man.

Actually, aliens had been here for quite some time, studying homo sapiens with the intent of eventually making formal contact.

But, after the last US presidential election, the leader of the group thought the better of it, called up to their starship, and said the alien equivalent of, "Beam me up, Scotty. There's no intelligent life down here."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ) They're made of meat.

Quote from: LMNO on February 07, 2019, 06:50:07 PM
One order of Horribleness^TM at a time, my good man.

When you have a bucket of pus, do you differentiate between the various globs in the bucket?  No, you put a lid over the bucket and leave it at the drop off at Goodwill¹.  Then you get an empty bucket and start collecting more pus.  Because, God knows, humans have plenty of that.



¹ We all do it.  Don't deny it.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 17, 2019, 08:31:51 AM

Quote from: LMNO on February 07, 2019, 06:50:07 PM
One order of Horribleness^TM at a time, my good man.

When you have a bucket of pus, do you differentiate between the various globs in the bucket?  No, you put a lid over the bucket and leave it at the drop off at Goodwill¹.  Then you get an empty bucket and start collecting more pus.  Because, God knows, humans have plenty of that.



¹ We all do it.  Don't deny it.

I would never give away a perfectly good bucket.  Pour that glop in a plastic bag, and freeze it.  Then give that away, before it thaws out.

Quote from: Trivial on February 17, 2019, 02:50:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ) They're made of meat.

I love it!

Quote from: Trivial on February 17, 2019, 02:50:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ) They're made of meat.

O man. I remember reading the original back in 1992. Someone printed it out and put it out on the tables at Chattacon. Wikipedia says it was originally published in Omni Magazine back in 1991.

Glad to see it is still around and growing legs.

Quote from: Emo Howard on February 18, 2019, 10:03:22 AM

Quote from: Trivial on February 17, 2019, 02:50:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ) They're made of meat.

O man. I remember reading the original back in 1992. Someone printed it out and put it out on the tables at Chattacon. Wikipedia says it was originally published in Omni Magazine back in 1991.

Glad to see it is still around and growing legs.

Here's a link to the original story: http://www.terrybisson.com/page6/page6.html

I had never heard of this story, and did not know that the poll choice "We're made out of meat" had a history.

But then, that's why I come to this forum in my continued search for enlightenment.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Even on the rare occasion when humans TRY to make things better, they just fuck it up and everything becomes scum.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-has-apologised-after-handing-out-creepy-diet-coke-napkins-to-passengers-encouraging-them-to-give-their-number-to-their-plane-crush/ar-BBTfnk8?ocid=spartanntp

Wanna be my plane-crash-crush?  :kiss:

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 02:23:25 AM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Even on the rare occasion when humans TRY to make things better, they just fuck it up and everything becomes scum.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-has-apologised-after-handing-out-creepy-diet-coke-napkins-to-passengers-encouraging-them-to-give-their-number-to-their-plane-crush/ar-BBTfnk8?ocid=spartanntp

Wanna be my plane-crash-crush?  :kiss:

Well, YOU'RE a sight for sore eyes.  Where the hell have you been?

Maybe the aliens are even dumber than us? Spaceships aside, I'm not so impressed.

"Yup, this is definitely a human anus. Just like the other two million we've probed. Remember when we used to mutiliate cattle? I mean, don't get me wrong, we had the DNA sequences from the start so it was equally pointless, but at least it was a change. Something different."

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2019, 03:07:18 AM

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 02:23:25 AM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Even on the rare occasion when humans TRY to make things better, they just fuck it up and everything becomes scum.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-has-apologised-after-handing-out-creepy-diet-coke-napkins-to-passengers-encouraging-them-to-give-their-number-to-their-plane-crush/ar-BBTfnk8?ocid=spartanntp

Wanna be my plane-crash-crush?  :kiss:

Well, YOU'RE a sight for sore eyes.  Where the hell have you been?

What matters is that i'm here to contact the hoomanz  :asshat:

But ok for real, i think it was 2014? So I finished my bachelors on Social Psychology, worked some years with literal psychotics, and im about done with my masters on psychoanalysis.

Sort of a FUN ride in all the wrong ways, but i cant complain.  :fnord:

Quote from: Cain on March 03, 2019, 09:51:28 AM
Maybe the aliens are even dumber than us? Spaceships aside, I'm not so impressed.

"Yup, this is definitely a human anus. Just like the other two million we've probed. Remember when we used to mutiliate cattle? I mean, don't get me wrong, we had the DNA sequences from the start so it was equally pointless, but at least it was a change. Something different."

"Sure, 2 million is a good sampling, but how about another 2 million? 1,999,999 more to go!"

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 10:40:20 AM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2019, 03:07:18 AM

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 02:23:25 AM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Even on the rare occasion when humans TRY to make things better, they just fuck it up and everything becomes scum.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-has-apologised-after-handing-out-creepy-diet-coke-napkins-to-passengers-encouraging-them-to-give-their-number-to-their-plane-crush/ar-BBTfnk8?ocid=spartanntp

Wanna be my plane-crash-crush?  :kiss:

Well, YOU'RE a sight for sore eyes.  Where the hell have you been?

What matters is that i'm here to contact the hoomanz  :asshat:

But ok for real, i think it was 2014? So I finished my bachelors on Social Psychology, worked some years with literal psychotics, and im about done with my masters on psychoanalysis.

Sort of a FUN ride in all the wrong ways, but i cant complain.  :fnord:

That's fucking awesome.

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
What matters is that i'm here to contact the hoomanz  :asshat:

Johnny, stop trying to make contact with your food, and finish eating it.  Don't you want any dessert?

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2019, 04:46:44 PM

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 10:40:20 AM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 03, 2019, 03:07:18 AM

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 02:23:25 AM

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 06, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
Even on the rare occasion when humans TRY to make things better, they just fuck it up and everything becomes scum.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/delta-has-apologised-after-handing-out-creepy-diet-coke-napkins-to-passengers-encouraging-them-to-give-their-number-to-their-plane-crush/ar-BBTfnk8?ocid=spartanntp

Wanna be my plane-crash-crush?  :kiss:

Well, YOU'RE a sight for sore eyes.  Where the hell have you been?

What matters is that i'm here to contact the hoomanz  :asshat:

But ok for real, i think it was 2014? So I finished my bachelors on Social Psychology, worked some years with literal psychotics, and im about done with my masters on psychoanalysis.

Sort of a FUN ride in all the wrong ways, but i cant complain.  :fnord:

That's fucking awesome.

Damn, it sure is.

Good to see you back, Johnny.

Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on March 03, 2019, 05:09:58 PM

Quote from: The Johnny on March 03, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
What matters is that i'm here to contact the hoomanz  :asshat:

Johnny, stop trying to make contact with your food, and finish eating it.  Don't you want any dessert?

Fiiiiiine mom, but do we still have Soylent Green Jell-O?

Finding another inhabited planet, assuming there are any, would be like finding a particular needle in a haystack sized pile of mass-produced needles