Have you not heard of that madman who lit a spliff in the bright morning hours, ran to the local dive, and howled incessantly: "I seek Punk! I seek Punk!" -- As many of those who believed they were Punk were standing around just then, he provoked much laughter. What's with the leather jacket? asked one. Liberty spikes are for posers... said another. Why is he yelling? What's he so mad about? Just chill, bro. You're not being very socio-politically conscious -- Thus they looked down their noses.
The madman elbowed his way into their midst and eyed their many unconventional piercings. "Where the fuck is Punk?" he shouted; "I'll tell you. We've killed it -- you and I. All of us are it's consumers. But how did it happen? How could we drink up all the PBR and 'Gansette? Who gave us the bar napkins to wipe away the city streets and piss-filled alleyways? What were we doing when we unchained the wallet from the belt loop? Where the fuck are we going now? Towards full-on radio-friendliness? Are we not catering continually to the advertisers and promoters? No longer pitting in circles? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any hardcore or crust? Are we not straying towards shitty "folk-punk, as if though it doesn't lead towards an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty venues? Has it not become safer? Is not homogeneity continually closing in on us? Do we not need to start drinking in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the hipsters who are burying Punk? Do we smell nothing as yet of the subterranean decomposition? Punk, too, decomposes. Punk is dead. Punk remains dead. And we have killed it.
"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was earthliest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What musical festivals of atonement, what sacred drinking games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become punks simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- because of this deed he will belong to a more sheltered musical history than all history hitherto."
Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in judgment and disgust. At last he threw his joint on the floor, and with his boot, he ground it into the clean tile floor and it went out. "I have come too late," he said then; "my time is passed. This tremendous event has happened long ago but it has not yet reached the ears of youth. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars -- and yet they have done it themselves.
It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several venues and there struck up his requiem aeternam veritatem. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these bars now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of Punk?"
Im not even that invested in punk, but i catch the reference, 10/10 would read again, glorious copypasta template that should be used more frequently for numerous topics
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I'm not a huge punk fan, but have you paid any attention to what's been coming out of powerviolence and noise rock lately? Xaddax, Nails, Full of Hell, Street Sects (ESPECIALLY the End Position album), quite a few others definitely have the magic.
Also check out some sludge metal like Primitive Man, It Is I, etc. It might be slow, crawling doom metal but it's definitely got the soul of punk (i.e. loud, sloppy, angry noise, like a hard rock band thrown down the stairs by a bunch of hungry bears).
If you like that stuff, you might also be into Corrections House, a band by Mike Williams from Eyehategod that has written such modern classics as White Man's Gonna Lose, Grin with a Purpose, and Dirt Poor and Mentally Ill. (He is definitely not Quality People, so this isn't morally objectionable to listen to despite the potentially questionable titles.)
I don't really "get" the parable as Johnny seems to, but hey, maybe you'll enjoy the music suggestions anyway.
Quote from: nullified on March 23, 2019, 10:03:14 PM
I'm not a huge punk fan, but have you paid any attention to what's been coming out of powerviolence and noise rock lately? Xaddax, Nails, Full of Hell, Street Sects (ESPECIALLY the End Position album), quite a few others definitely have the magic.
Also check out some sludge metal like Primitive Man, It Is I, etc. It might be slow, crawling doom metal but it's definitely got the soul of punk (i.e. loud, sloppy, angry noise, like a hard rock band thrown down the stairs by a bunch of hungry bears).
If you like that stuff, you might also be into Corrections House, a band by Mike Williams from Eyehategod that has written such modern classics as White Man's Gonna Lose, Grin with a Purpose, and Dirt Poor and Mentally Ill. (He is definitely not Quality People, so this isn't morally objectionable to listen to despite the potentially questionable titles.)
I don't really "get" the parable as Johnny seems to, but hey, maybe you'll enjoy the music suggestions anyway.
Was less thinking about the genre as a whole and more commenting on the local scene out here, which has traditionally been really strong. However, as of late, there seems to be a 'whitewashing' of sorts when it comes to local music, and as a member of a band that is 'unwhitewashable' I think we're being actively pushed out for 'cleaner, more presentable' acts.
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Quote from: nullified on March 23, 2019, 10:03:14 PM
I'm not a huge punk fan, but have you paid any attention to what's been coming out of powerviolence and noise rock lately? Xaddax, Nails, Full of Hell, Street Sects (ESPECIALLY the End Position album), quite a few others definitely have the magic.
Also check out some sludge metal like Primitive Man, It Is I, etc. It might be slow, crawling doom metal but it's definitely got the soul of punk (i.e. loud, sloppy, angry noise, like a hard rock band thrown down the stairs by a bunch of hungry bears).
If you like that stuff, you might also be into Corrections House, a band by Mike Williams from Eyehategod that has written such modern classics as White Man's Gonna Lose, Grin with a Purpose, and Dirt Poor and Mentally Ill. (He is definitely not Quality People, so this isn't morally objectionable to listen to despite the potentially questionable titles.)
I don't really "get" the parable as Johnny seems to, but hey, maybe you'll enjoy the music suggestions anyway.
Was less thinking about the genre as a whole and more commenting on the local scene out here, which has traditionally been really strong. However, as of late, there seems to be a 'whitewashing' of sorts when it comes to local music, and as a member of a band that is 'unwhitewashable' I think we're being actively pushed out for 'cleaner, more presentable' acts.
I stood in 5 degree weather with a hangover to hear your band. Worth it.
If the Dok thinks your band is worth a listen, I gotta ask if you have any releases or anything I can track down. Maybe the band name to go with 'em. I'll have a few free dollars lying around this month.
PMs are fine if you aren't cool dropping personal info like that in the open.
Quote from: nullified on March 24, 2019, 03:17:58 AM
If the Dok thinks your band is worth a listen, I gotta ask if you have any releases or anything I can track down. Maybe the band name to go with 'em. I'll have a few free dollars lying around this month.
PMs are fine if you aren't cool dropping personal info like that in the open.
You can listen for free here (https://theparaplegics2001.bandcamp.com/album/back-on-their-feet). That's our latest, if you feel like digging around you can find more or less our complete discography, minus some really old shit.
I'm a horrible judge of this kind of punk, so I hesitate to say good or bad. I can tell for sure the live show must be a fucking blast, but in a basement at night by myself through cheap wireless headphones it falls sorta flat.
But I have enjoyed a good half of the linked album and didn't find it hard to listen to or boring or annoying, so you can have my 8 dollars when my money arrives (probably Wednesday or so). When I don't "get" a band on first listen, it usually clicks when it pops up in shuffle at some point in the future.
Quote from: nullified on March 24, 2019, 06:09:49 AM
I'm a horrible judge of this kind of punk, so I hesitate to say good or bad. I can tell for sure the live show must be a fucking blast, but in a basement at night by myself through cheap wireless headphones it falls sorta flat.
But I have enjoyed a good half of the linked album and didn't find it hard to listen to or boring or annoying, so you can have my 8 dollars when my money arrives (probably Wednesday or so). When I don't "get" a band on first listen, it usually clicks when it pops up in shuffle at some point in the future.
ILB's head isn't being jammed through a ceiling riser by Richter. It's going to be a bit flat.
The genius of the band was that you never knew when shit was gonna go totally sideways. It would seem like that would distract from the music. It doesn't.
If I'm ever in the vicinity of somewhere they're playing (or they somehow end up in the Lansing area, which is incredibly silly) I'll NEED to see it.
Lord knows I haven't been to enough concerts (two, two is the number of concerts).
Goo shit!
Any creative tips on writing authentic punk songs, I got drunk and now I'm apparently in a band
Quote from: Con-troll on March 24, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
Goo shit!
Any creative tips on writing authentic punk songs, I got drunk and now I'm apparently in a band
Do whatever the fuck you want, otherwise you're doing it wrong.
Quote from: IntentionallyLeftBlank on March 24, 2019, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: Con-troll on March 24, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
Goo shit!
Any creative tips on writing authentic punk songs, I got drunk and now I'm apparently in a band
Do whatever the fuck you want, otherwise you're doing it wrong.
I
want to do it wrong.
Quote from: Con-troll on March 24, 2019, 03:45:35 PM
Quote from: IntentionallyLeftBlank on March 24, 2019, 03:08:03 PM
Quote from: Con-troll on March 24, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
Goo shit!
Any creative tips on writing authentic punk songs, I got drunk and now I'm apparently in a band
Do whatever the fuck you want, otherwise you're doing it wrong.
I want to do it wrong.
Then there's no way you can go wrong...
Is that too much power for one spag to hold?
Well, I've just figured out who ILB is.
Sir, your hardcore is commendable, but as you say so yourself, punk is not a sound, it's a verb. It has no genre. Coltrane was a punk. Beethoven was a punk. Hell, Debussy was a punk.
Fuck, I'll say it. JOHN-FUCKING-DENVER was a punk.
Anyway, in response to the OP, the commercializers didn't kill punk. Punk got bored of their bullshit and left. Punk hung around Electroclash for a while, then peeked in to what Hip Hop was doing, hi-fived queerpop on the way to the drag bar, and was last seen palling around with Kamasi Washington.
Quote from: LMNO on March 24, 2019, 07:42:22 PM
Well, I've just figured out who ILB is.
Sir, your hardcore is commendable, but as you say so yourself, punk is not a sound, it's a verb. It has no genre. Coltrane was a punk. Beethoven was a punk. Hell, Debussy was a punk.
Fuck, I'll say it. JOHN-FUCKING-DENVER was a punk.
Anyway, in response to the OP, the commercializers didn't kill punk. Punk got bored of their bullshit and left. Punk hung around Electroclash for a while, then peeked in to what Hip Hop was doing, hi-fived queerpop on the way to the drag bar, and was last seen palling around with Kamasi Washington.
I actually tell people all the time that Beethoven was the first punker.
Quote from: IntentionallyLeftBlank on March 25, 2019, 12:34:40 AM
Beethoven was the first punker.
He was the first one to
sell out.
The actual mother of punk was this cavewoman named roughly something like
Zorgette on our alphabet. She was so enthusiastic about banging rocks together that her tribe got really aggravated and accidentally invented mosh pit.
Quote from: LMNO on March 24, 2019, 07:42:22 PM
Well, I've just figured out who ILB is.
Sir, your hardcore is commendable, but as you say so yourself, punk is not a sound, it's a verb. It has no genre. Coltrane was a punk. Beethoven was a punk. Hell, Debussy was a punk.
Fuck, I'll say it. JOHN-FUCKING-DENVER was a punk.
Anyway, in response to the OP, the commercializers didn't kill punk. Punk got bored of their bullshit and left. Punk hung around Electroclash for a while, then peeked in to what Hip Hop was doing, hi-fived queerpop on the way to the drag bar, and was last seen palling around with Kamasi Washington.
HAH! THIS is the FUCKING GUY that told me
Burn Down the Mission wasn't punk, when it is CLEARLY PUNK AS FUCK.
"The man leaned on me so I killed him and his lackeys and burned their bodies in their church, and I don't know what I'm gonna do when the law shows up but it ain't gonna be pretty."
For shame, LMNO.
:asshat:
Quote from: LMNO on March 25, 2019, 11:55:36 AM
:asshat:
Beer turns my memory into Memorex.
I never forget a fucking THING that gets said after beer #3. Useful in this case, but more often gives me the random CRINGE UNTIL YOU PULL YOUR PANTS UP YOUR ASS things I said when I was white girl drunk like 15 years ago.
Quote from: LMNO on March 24, 2019, 07:42:22 PM
Anyway, in response to the OP, the commercializers didn't kill punk. Punk got bored of their bullshit and left. Punk hung around Electroclash for a while, then peeked in to what Hip Hop was doing, hi-fived queerpop on the way to the drag bar, and was last seen palling around with Kamasi Washington.
AND ANOTHER THING:
Punk killed acid rock. Hair metal ate punk. Grunge came for the crimes of hair metal. Indie shanked grunge...AND ALL THIS TIME, pop was having unsafe sex down in the MBTA station and their numbers grew.
Now there is no punk. There is no grunge. There sure as fuck isn't any hair metal.
There is only Taylor Swift, and all shall love her and despair.
Forget about Taylor Swift.
It's all about Lizzo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaCrQL_8eMY) and Robyn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mru9GG3ur9U).
Quote from: LMNO on March 25, 2019, 04:50:35 PM
Forget about Taylor Swift.
It's all about Lizzo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaCrQL_8eMY) and Robyn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mru9GG3ur9U).
I am okay with all of this. I warned you fuckers. I did. You saw me. I told you DUCK NOW but you just stood there making Studio 54 jokes. NOW LOOK AT YOU! YOU LOOK LIKE
SHIT. And on top of your unwholesome new habits, THIS HAPPENED:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcNo07Xp8aQ
And I love it. This is the FUTURE. It's what WE BUILT when we were FUCKED UP ON DRUGS, and were TOO COOL to listen to what TOM JONES WAS TRYING TO TELL US.
And in the smoking ruins, Johnny Rotten is a sad clown, explaining that Trump is punk af and the kids should stop whinging.
No shit. He said that. Out loud.
And nobody will KILL ME.
I've been going through Robyn's discography and I love her like I love earthquakes and inconvenient volcanoes.
Yup, that's about right.
Have you encountered "Don't Fucking Tell Me What To Do" yet?
T-Swift is my spirit animal.
Quote from: LMNO on March 25, 2019, 05:40:30 PM
Yup, that's about right.
Have you encountered "Don't Fucking Tell Me What To Do" yet?
No.
Off on a mission!
Meh. Dancing on my own is a work of genius.
This other one is a gimmick.
Potato, potato.
I made a Robyn Spotify playlist, if anyone's interested. (https://open.spotify.com/user/tq23ayfkw9efmumuqbryzw0mb/playlist/1oT0bSEVgIq5tkUvHA3ceM?si=UcNsMzZyTJ62G-ykBhmVuA)
Quote from: LMNO on March 25, 2019, 06:01:20 PM
Potato, potato.
I made a Robyn Spotify playlist, if anyone's interested. (https://open.spotify.com/user/tq23ayfkw9efmumuqbryzw0mb/playlist/1oT0bSEVgIq5tkUvHA3ceM?si=UcNsMzZyTJ62G-ykBhmVuA)
I love you.
"Call Your Girlfriend" has more of the "Dancing On My Own" vibe.
Quote from: LMNO on March 25, 2019, 07:09:30 PM
"Call Your Girlfriend" has more of the "Dancing On My Own" vibe.
Dancing On My Own is still my favorite because it's this dance tune with a good beat and her vocals are amazing and then you realize that she's stalking someone and it all goes horribly wrong.
And Call Your GF is the very model of a narcissist.
I think she builds her songs around a central point, all of which are profoundly creepy.
ahhhh now I know who this is!
welcome back, yo
/
:saddam:
Quote from: Cramulus on March 26, 2019, 05:37:25 PM
ahhhh now I know who this is!
welcome back, yo
/
:saddam:
Ty Prof. I might get around to contributing something worth while.
I'd hoped to contribute to this conversation, but you're all horribly evil people.
Quote from: Fujikoma on March 30, 2019, 11:19:28 PM
I'd hoped to contribute to this conversation, but you're all horribly evil people.
Comes from accepting Cramulan philosophy. I warned you fuckers about him, but you could only see the mustache.
After I accepted Cramulan thought, my scalp opened up at the top of my head and got a terrible fungal infection that slowly turned my entire body a hideous inflamed purple color. My skin falls off in patches in sunlight, and I am permanently hunched over so severely it looks like I was folded in half and creased at the waist. I have a snout like an anteater and my chin fell off weeks ago.
This can happen to you too, all you have to do is one hit.
Or you can be a /square/ like Dok Howl.
After reading Albert Cramus, i became apathetic and shot some people at the beach because i was bored and having heatstroke.
So i got jailed and now im waiting for my execution. My guillotining will be exciting tho!
Quote from: nullified on March 31, 2019, 07:17:36 AM
After I accepted Cramulan thought, my scalp opened up at the top of my head and got a terrible fungal infection that slowly turned my entire body a hideous inflamed purple color. My skin falls off in patches in sunlight, and I am permanently hunched over so severely it looks like I was folded in half and creased at the waist. I have a snout like an anteater and my chin fell off weeks ago.
This can happen to you too, all you have to do is one hit.
Or you can be a /square/ like Dok Howl.
ETA: What the fuck, why didn't that file just display?
Fucking square.
OH GOD -- WHAT THE FUCK, ROGER
:baby:
I once donned the mustache... it was a dark and terrible time.
Quote from: Cramulus on April 01, 2019, 05:05:27 PM
OH GOD -- WHAT THE FUCK, ROGER
:baby:
I try to be good. :(
Was that Frank from "It's Always Sunny in Philledelphia"? If not, I might, might feel bad for laughing.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 01, 2019, 09:04:46 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on April 01, 2019, 05:05:27 PM
OH GOD -- WHAT THE FUCK, ROGER
:baby:
I try to be good. :(
Don't worry, we'll all only hold it against you for the rest of our collective lifespans, and isn't that what really matters?