(Render this thread moot if it's already been done and please point me in the right direction)
So who's read 2023?
Thoughts? Feelings?
For Eris' sake somebody please tell me they've read this, because I'm starting to feel that this forum could be a bit of an ol' echo chamber. I'm also feeling that a high percentage of folk on this forum are American - nothing wrong with that, but it would excuse many people from not knowing this book and it's relevance.
When you have people talking about "not being able to find the next step" in Discordianism, it is a little disheartening because I sorta feel that whatever step I take next IS the next step - why complicate things by trying to impose order onto them?
So I'm not trying to say this book is the next step but I will say that the Justified Ancients of Mu smashed it out the park with this. I was expecting music, like most KLF tragics, but this book was all sorts of grouse.
BURN THE SHARD!!
I don't even read the directions label on my medication
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 02:26:34 AM
For Eris' sake somebody please tell me they've read this, because I'm starting to feel that this forum could be a bit of an ol' echo chamber.
It's a dozen or so old timers who use the remains of the forum to talk about the news, and which of our organs are failing.
All the meat is mostly archives from 2006-2014.
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 02:26:34 AM
So who's read 2023?
Never heard of it.
Quote
For Eris' sake somebody please tell me they've read this, because I'm starting to feel that this forum could be a bit of an ol' echo chamber.
I have it on good authority that whatever it is we're supposed to be doing, we're doing it wrong.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 27, 2020, 02:51:23 AM
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 02:26:34 AM
So who's read 2023?
Never heard of it.
Quote
For Eris' sake somebody please tell me they've read this, because I'm starting to feel that this forum could be a bit of an ol' echo chamber.
I have it on good authority that whatever it is we're supposed to be doing, we're doing it wrong.
We have always been doing it wrong.
Doktor Howl thank you for clearing that up. Not that things should make sense, but now I understand this forum a little better.
Well, really, if it's all old and failing, and if I've been on here for all of 5 minutes, with people complaining about no future for Discordians... Get your minds around the 2023 trilogy by the JAMs, written under the pen-name, Roberta Antonia Wilson... Stop me if I'm preaching to the choir.
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 03:08:12 AM
Doktor Howl thank you for clearing that up. Not that things should make sense, but now I understand this forum a little better.
Well, really, if it's all old and failing, and if I've been on here for all of 5 minutes, with people complaining about no future for Discordians... Get your minds around the 2023 trilogy by the JAMs, written under the pen-name, Roberta Antonia Wilson... Stop me if I'm preaching to the choir.
Oh, nobody said there's no future for discordians. Just that rehashing the past isn't really the future.
OK then, on the assumption that no one has read it or even heard of it, I'll make another cognitive leap and assume that people are not apprised of the KLF and their obvious worship of Eris. I'm sorry but it's baffling and hilarious that since being on this forum, I've had people telling what is right and wrong in a society that worships the Goddess of chaos, while only one person has actually had the humanity to speak to me like an equal... There is being funny. And there is just plain being a dick.
And now people wanna tell me, in their proud ignorance, that they're not even up to speed? No wonder I've had people tell me 'they're searching for the next step'. I've been accused of being stuck in 1965 and I concede that is partly true (The 60s seems like it would have been a good time to be alive!). Now perhaps the ageing folk on here may concede they may have more to learn.
I don't want this to come across as an attack, I just want to see this book hit it's target audience. My Goddess, I figured folks on this forum would be well versed in it by now. Then again, I'm Australian and conditioned to think Americans are of sub-par intelligence. If this is actually true then I guess there's a good reason why it's not suitable for American audiences. But I don't believe my conditioning!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 27, 2020, 03:23:47 AM
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 03:08:12 AM
Oh, nobody said there's no future for discordians. Just that rehashing the past isn't really the future.
Unfortunately someone did say that to me in as many words early this morning. Hmmm perhaps it was a nightmare
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 04:16:59 AM
while only one person has actually had the humanity to speak to me like an equal...
And that's only because my brain has been smashed flat with benzodiazapine by this time of night.
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 04:16:59 AM
I'll make another cognitive leap and assume that people are not apprised of the KLF and their obvious worship of Eris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliIvMwvHqE
KLF was 30 years ago.
Quote from: LMNO on January 27, 2020, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 04:16:59 AM
I'll make another cognitive leap and assume that people are not apprised of the KLF and their obvious worship of Eris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliIvMwvHqE
KLF was 30 years ago.
Discordia was 60 years ago. I don't get your point
KLF certainly were 30 years ago. The JAMs are said to be eternal. They authored the book in question. The book was released 23 years to the day they signed the contract declaring they would not speak of the money they burnt. It's a fun read.
This was their return
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2xgxtr8O5M
And LMNO, since you know of them, but indicate that you haven't heard of their movements since 30 years ago (at least that's how it came across) you may also find interest in their new roles as undertakers
https://www.mumufication.com/
I'm aware of KLF and their book is somewhere on my very long reading list. But yeah, over here in the US they're not exactly on the radar.
Not everybody drinks from the same stream! No need to get all judgmental about that. :p
I have not seen the complaint about not being able to find the "next step" in Discordianism (I heard a rumor it has something to do with the God Helmet), but I do mourn the loss of pop culture representation.
Quote from: MMIX on January 27, 2020, 01:19:18 PM
Quote from: LMNO on January 27, 2020, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 04:16:59 AM
I'll make another cognitive leap and assume that people are not apprised of the KLF and their obvious worship of Eris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliIvMwvHqE
KLF was 30 years ago.
Discordia was 60 years ago. I don't get your point
Discordia never happened at all. WTF are You People talking about?
Quote from: Cramulus on January 27, 2020, 02:13:48 PM
I'm aware of KLF and their book is somewhere on my very long reading list. But yeah, over here in the US they're not exactly on the radar.
Not everybody drinks from the same stream! No need to get all judgmental about that. :p
I have not seen the complaint about not being able to find the "next step" in Discordianism (I heard a rumor it has something to do with the God Helmet), but I do mourn the loss of pop culture representation.
Too right. Not judging, but yeah I do come across as abrupt, and I was actually just really suprised that it aint on the radar in the US. We do drink from different streams, fkn too right. This bizzo about me being stuck in 65 was echoed around earlier. And that 'next step' comment was relative to the fact that steps have been taken and not noticed. I'm really not being critical here, it's simply that as you pointed out, we're drinking from different streams... I only wanted to offer what came through the UK stream from 76 to present which I thought would have been obnoxious for me to do due to my failed assumption that this was well known in the States. Now that I know it is not well known, I'm actually a little saddened for those who haven't seen the migration. And I aint about to shake my fists and scream for the love of fuck's sake get around the likes of Ken Campbell, Alan Moore, Bill Drummond, Jimmy Cauty, Daisy Eris Campbell - and how in many ways, Wilson's move to the UK was something like passing the flame to those people. Of course it aint that clear cut and it's on each individual as to whether they actually give a shit or not.
A quick Wiki search of Discordian works does not list any of the aforementioned artists/writers so there ya go, Wikipedia has failed us again. Oh well, I hope that can be beneficial to someone out here.
Anyway, at some point you might have a read and you can tell me what you think.
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 04:13:20 PM
And that 'next step' comment was relative to the fact that steps have been taken and not noticed.
If steps have been taken and not noticed, one of two things is happening:
1. Steps have not been noticed because nothing happened. This means steps have not been taken.
2. Steps have not been taken because they were not supposed to be noticed. If this were the case, there wouldn't be any advertisement of said steps (ie, the book itself).
Whoa. Mind blown Dok. Not so much by
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 27, 2020, 04:25:46 PM
Quote from: Baltshazzar the Unhinged on January 27, 2020, 04:13:20 PM
And that 'next step' comment was relative to the fact that steps have been taken and not noticed.
If steps have been taken and not noticed, one of two things is happening:
1. Steps have not been noticed because nothing happened. This means steps have not been taken.
2. Steps have not been taken because they were not supposed to be noticed. If this were the case, there wouldn't be any advertisement of said steps (ie, the book itself).
which is a healthy reminder for me to reel it in a bit (I did think it was safe to preach to the choir, I would not suggest this book or a casual interest in the authors to heathens)
but what is blowing my mind is that I just caught your tagline there, just after contemplating sneaking into someone's house overnight and stealing all of their cutlery.
OK then enough with the steps already. All Steps Noticed.