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Title: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 14, 2024, 03:28:44 AM
Yes, it's time to muster with our old brothers in arms, and fight the good fight once again!

I know it appears to be a very minor issue, but it occurred to me that, this time around, we really need to refer to ourselves with some unassailable labels. I do believe, and will continue to preach, "An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance."

And, I'm writing this because it didn't feel to me like our previous "Antifa" label really did us much good. First of all, I suspect that attaching the prefix "anti" to our label automatically produced a negative response in a lot of people. Second, many of the people we're trying to influence don't even know what the word "fascism" even means. And last, it appears to me that "Antifa" has already been largely forgotten. So, this time around, I feel we need to mimic what the Republicult™ does, and put words like "freedom," "liberty," "truth," etc. in our own labels.

Right now, I'm spitballing along the lines of, "The Truth, Justice, and the American Way League." That phrase isn't copyrighted, by the way, but I think we should  be able to come up with something(s) just as good, if not better.

So, any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 14, 2024, 03:40:23 PM
Even as I post this article, I'm not 100% convinced that it's true:

"The Onion wins bidding for Infowars assets"

As per this article:

"Satirical news site The Onion won the auction to acquire conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' Infowars.
 
The Onion's bid was backed by the families of eight victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting and one first responder. It also will have an exclusive advertising deal with the gun control group Everytown for Gun Safety. CNN was first to report the humor web site had entered the bidding.
 
The purchase acquires the company's intellectual property, including its website, customer lists and inventory and certain social media accounts, as well as the production equipment used to put Jones on the air. The amount of the bid was not announced.
 
"The Onion is proud to acquire Infowars, and we look forward to continuing its storied tradition of scaring the site's users with lies until they fork over their cold, hard cash," said The Onion CEO Ben Collins. "Or Bitcoin. We will also accept Bitcoin.""

Here's the link to this article:      The Onion Won the Auction for Infowars (https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/14/business/onion-alex-jones-infowars-auction/index.html)

Long live the Resistance!
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2024, 03:45:10 PM
It's true.

And GLORIOUS.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Bruno on November 14, 2024, 06:36:45 PM
I'm expecting Trump Media & Technology Group Corp (DJT) to just be a series of pumps and dumps for the next 4 years and possibly beyond. He sold the hotel, so it seems to be the main avenue for people to curry his favor, financially.

In fact, I'd say that is probably the sole purpose for its existence.

I also expect certain members of the administration (Musk) to be actively manipulating crypto in a similar fashion.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2024, 06:47:51 PM
Resist all you like, nobody will care.

The rules changed, and nobody seems to have noticed.  Trump and his cronies don't care about the forms of law, because he has already proven to his own satisfaction that laws don't apply to him.

There is no peaceful way to dislodge him, and our nation at this point cannot survive a civil war.  I do not say "win or lose," I say "Cannot maintain vital services and remain a functional political entity."

Cities have enough food in them for 18 hours.  And isolating cities is painfully simple.

For example, if you were to blow the bridge above the I90 passing under Indiana 80 and tear up 100 meters of track to the North, you cut the country in half unless Denver and the tracks heading East remain intact (good luck).  If the Eisenhower cutoff is also blown, you can't bring food into the metro area fast enough, even at starvation rations, to break even.

All those people aren't going to sit and starve quietly.  No, they will head East into the rest of Chicagoland under the mistaken impression that there will be food there.

Almost every city has an achilles heel like this.

The moment a proper insurrection begins, our cities turn into roaming mobs of starvation-desperate people.

So there is neither a peaceful way out nor a violent one.

There is no resistance.  The time for that was the last 6 months and, unhappily, 14 million people thought it wasn't worth it because of <insert niche issue here>.

The whole country is dumb as fuck and now we're all going to get the government we deserve.  Good & hard.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 14, 2024, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: Bruno on November 14, 2024, 06:36:45 PMI'm expecting Trump Media & Technology Group Corp (DJT) to just be a series of pumps and dumps for the next 4 years and possibly beyond. He sold the hotel, so it seems to be the main avenue for people to curry his favor, financially.

In fact, I'd say that is probably the sole purpose for its existence.

I also expect certain members of the administration (Musk) to be actively manipulating crypto in a similar fashion.

I think you're right about DJT.

I have no intention in ever investing in crypto, so I don't pay attention to it. But, you're probably right about about the oligarchs manipulating it.

I also skimmed an article on a financial site today about Elmo actively working to kill the existing federal Electric Vehicle tax credit. I haven't had time to research this issue in detail, but I got the impression that Elmo thinks it will hurt his competition more than it will hurt Tesla. Again, I have yet to researched this in detail.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2024, 10:36:08 PM
RFK Jr has been nominated for HHS.

I live in a fucking cartoon.   :lulz:
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 15, 2024, 03:03:42 AM
I'm not surprised someone else also used the name "Resistance 2.0." It's not a case of "great minds think alike." It's "adding 2.0 was low hanging fruit."

Anyway, I just found this article:

"Resistance 2.0"

"Both the circumstances and tactics will necessarily be different from the anti-Trump resistance of 2017, and there is little room for error."

As per this article:

"It's still early, but we need to quickly get past the Kübler-Ross stages of denial and grief, and above all to reject the final stage—acceptance. To contain Trump's threats to democracy and rebuild credibility with workaday voters looking forward to the 2026 midterms, we need hard thinking and strategic work on two fronts."

And, further along in this article:

"After a year or two of Trump, workaday voters are likely to be in an even more sour mood than they are now. Progressives and Democrats need to keep precise track of all of this and hang it around Trump's neck. We need to drive wedges in the Trump coalition."

Here's the link to this article:        Another Guy on the Resistance 2.0 (https://prospect.org/politics/2024-11-12-trump-resistance-2-0/)

It's a long article, but for people in the Resistance 2.0, I think it's worth a read.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 16, 2024, 03:03:18 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 14, 2024, 03:40:23 PMEven as I post this article, I'm not 100% convinced that it's true:

"The Onion wins bidding for Infowars assets"

As per this article:

"Satirical news site The Onion won the auction to acquire conspiracy theorist Alex Jones' Infowars.
 
The Onion's bid was backed by the families of eight victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting and one first responder. It also will have an exclusive advertising deal with the gun control group Everytown for Gun Safety. CNN was first to report the humor web site had entered the bidding.
 
The purchase acquires the company's intellectual property, including its website, customer lists and inventory and certain social media accounts, as well as the production equipment used to put Jones on the air. The amount of the bid was not announced.
 
"The Onion is proud to acquire Infowars, and we look forward to continuing its storied tradition of scaring the site's users with lies until they fork over their cold, hard cash," said The Onion CEO Ben Collins. "Or Bitcoin. We will also accept Bitcoin.""

Here's the link to this article:        The Onion Won the Auction for Infowars (https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/14/business/onion-alex-jones-infowars-auction/index.html)

Long live the Resistance!

The CEO of The Onion took a victory lap, and rubbed some salt in the MAGAts' wounds in its formal takeover announcement:

Here's Why I Decided To Buy 'InfoWars' (https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/)

I'm not going to cut & paste a representative paragraph, or two, from this announcement, as I found it to be so enjoyable that I believe it should be read in its entirety. Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Bruno on November 16, 2024, 05:22:10 AM
If the stock market starts to take a shit at any time during the incoming administration, I'll be reminding Trumpers that loyal patriots have Diamond Hands right after I set my 401k to Stable Value 100%.

At this point, I just want this to hurt them more than it hurts us.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 16, 2024, 06:30:58 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 16, 2024, 05:22:10 AMIf the stock market starts to take a shit at any time during the incoming administration, I'll be reminding Trumpers that loyal patriots have Diamond Hands right after I set my 401k to Stable Value 100%.

At this point, I just want this to hurt them more than it hurts us.

I don't have a crystal ball, but I don't believe we'll have to wait too, too long before the market takes a major hit. And, by major hit, I mean way more than a typical 10% plus stock market correction.

It's my opinion that most of the popularly traded stocks on the market are grossly overvalued. And, unfortunately, stocks that are not grossly overvalued will take that major hit along with everything else. For what it's worth, I'm almost completely out of the stock market already. But, I freely admit, at my age I am risk adverse.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AM
Buyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:57:23 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:        US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

If you're going to demand perfection from a political party, I advise you to be prepared to be disappointed.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 17, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AMOf course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

So, how's that philosophy been working out for everyone recently?

Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 18, 2024, 01:04:59 AM
Here's a glimmer of hope for the Resistance 2.0:

"Opinion | Trump will take office as a lame duck. That could matter — a lot."

"Let's free our politics from the unhealthy hold the president-elect has on both parties."

As per this article:

"Fourteen words should guide how citizens and politicians approach the next four years: "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice."

The 22nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is clear and unambiguous. It says nothing about "consecutive terms" and contains no hedges subject to reinterpretation. Someone who wins the presidency twice can't ever serve again. Period.

This means that when he is inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2025, Donald Trump immediately becomes a lame duck president. This has important implications for everyone in government. That's especially true for Republicans."

Here's the link  to this article:        TSF Will Be a Lame Duck President (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/17/trump-republicans-lame-duck-cabinet-appointments/)

It may not sound like much, but it will make some difference to Republican politicians willing to take a stand against, at lease, some of TSF's excesses.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Bruno on November 18, 2024, 04:44:23 AM
Trumpism is probably going to outlive The guy himself. He's not going to be around that much longer, but there will probably be some people who will carry on some kind of continuity. If he had soundly lost this election, the odds would have been much better that that would have been, for the most part, the end of it.

But not now. This was our last chance to stamp it out for good and we blew it.

I expect we'll see a bunch of Jan 6 insurrectionists in congress within a few years.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 18, 2024, 05:51:34 AM
Quote from: Bruno on November 18, 2024, 04:44:23 AMTrumpism is probably going to outlive The guy himself. He's not going to be around that much longer, but there will probably be some people who will carry on some kind of continuity. If he had soundly lost this election, the odds would have been much better that that would have been, for the most part, the end of it.

But not now. This was our last chance to stamp it out for good and we blew it.

I expect we'll see a bunch of Jan 6 insurrectionists in congress within a few years.

It's unrealistic to expect Trumpism to completely disappear after TSF is gone. But, I can not conceive of anything Trumpism is going to actually do for average 'Mericans that is going to make their lives better.

As I've already written, I'm preparing for a major drop in the stock market, and a recession. I find it hard to believe that the average 'Merican is going to be very happy about that when it happens. And, I don't see any way TSF is going to be able to escape the blame for it when it happens. The data is going to tell the true story, no matter how many more lies he and his worshipers are willing to tell.

So, I expect the pendulum to swing back the other way, and the Resistance 2.0 helping to make it happen.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 18, 2024, 02:51:40 PM
The New York Post is another Murdock-owned propaganda megaphone, and has been pro TSF from the beginning. But, the Democrat Party's election defeat is already old news, and this fish wrapper has to publish something new. So, here's another example of the MSM inadvertently helping the Resistance 2.0, while chasing after revenue:

"New York Post comes out against RFK Jr. HHS nomination"

As per this article:

"The editorial board of the New York Post is admonishing President-elect Trump over his nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to run the Department of Health and Human Services.

The Post called Kennedy's views on health "a head-scratching spaghetti of what we can only call warped conspiracy theories, and not just on vaccines.""

Here's the link to this article:      NY Post comes out against RFK Jr. nomination (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4992529-new-york-post-editorial-rfk-jr-hhs-nomination/)

We're going to see a lot more of this type of TSF regime criticism, as revenue is much more important to the MSM than any political agenda.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 19, 2024, 04:03:42 AM
So, now that the election is over, farmers are panicking. Who da thunk it? Farmers voted for TSF en mass, and now they're panicking. I'm shaking my head as I type this.       

"Donald Trump's Deportation Plan Causes 'Panic' Among Farmers"

As per this article:

"President-elect Donald Trump's deportation plan is causing widespread "panic" among farmers at risk of losing staff and business.

Agricultural output will fall between $30 and $60 billion if Trump's flagship policy is carried out, according to the American Business Immigration Coalition (ABIC).

One of the most prominent features of Trump's immigration policy was the removal of millions of undocumented immigrants. Trump advocated for the immediate deportation of individuals who were in the U.S. illegally, particularly those who had committed crimes."

Here's the link to this article:      Now Farmers Are In a Panic Over TSF's Deportation Plan (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mass-deportation-farmers-1987371)

Unfortunately for the Resistance, if there's one group who is near totally unreachable, from my experience, it's farmers. I wouldn't waste my time and resources on them.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2024, 03:39:37 PM
"If you push this button, you will be ruined."

Americans:  "How many times can I push the button?"
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 19, 2024, 06:18:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2024, 06:47:51 PMResist all you like, nobody will care.

The avalanche has already started.  It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
    --Kosh
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 19, 2024, 06:38:05 PM
The Democratic Party needs to amplify, and repeat this story ad nauseam between now and the next election:

"Trump Judge Blocks Overtime Pay For 4 Million Workers"

"The overtime rule is one of the most far-reaching economic reforms that President Joe Biden has fought for."

As per this article:

On Friday a federal judge in Texas struck down a new rule from the Biden administration aimed at extending overtime protections to millions of workers.

Judge Sean D. Jordan of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas ruled that the Labor Department went beyond its authority in issuing the regulation earlier this year. He granted summary judgment to the state of Texas, which had sued to stop the rule from taking effect."

Here's the link to this article:      TSF Appointed Judge Sticks It to 4 Million Workers (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-judge-blocks-overtime_n_6737a8f1e4b089e7d9aa7526)

I wonder how many of those 4 million people voted for the Republicult™ in the last election. And, I wonder how many of those 4 million people will remember the consequences of their votes when they head to the polls during the next election.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 19, 2024, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 19, 2024, 06:18:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 14, 2024, 06:47:51 PMResist all you like, nobody will care.

The avalanche has already started.  It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
    --Kosh

Pretty much this.

Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 20, 2024, 01:20:02 AM
So, after the MSM did their level best to normalize TSF for profit, they're now giving us advice on how best to deal with him:

"The guide to fighting back against Trump 2.0"

"Ordinary people can organize themselves to break MAGA's political strength. We know because we've seen it before."

Here's the link to this article:      The MSM Is Now Here to Help (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-president-second-term-protests-indivisible-guide-rcna180338)

The most important thing I got out of this article was this little gem that was referenced inside:

   INDIVISIBLE: A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO DEMOCRACY ON THE BRINK (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o1gSdFWIUpw41O5zbaxedVsr6Xik5XpPd9FwqvXYu40/edit?tab=t.0)

This is a long document, and I haven't finished studying it myself. Nevertheless, I want to quickly get it out there for other volunteers for the Revolution 2.0 to read and comment on.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 22, 2024, 12:03:49 AM
This was only a skirmish in what is going to be a long war:

"Gaetz withdraws as Trump's pick for attorney general, averting confirmation battle in the Senate

As per this article:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Matt Gaetz withdrew Thursday as President-elect Donald Trump's pick for attorney general amid continued fallout over a federal sex trafficking investigation that cast doubt on his ability to be confirmed as the nation's chief federal law enforcement officer.

The announcement caps a turbulent eight-day period in which Trump sought to capitalize on his decisive election win to force Senate Republicans to accept provocative selections like Gaetz, who had been investigated by the Justice Department before being tapped last week to lead it. The decision could heighten scrutiny on other controversial Trump nominees, including Pentagon pick Pete Hegseth, who faces sexual assault allegations that he denies."

Here's the link to this article:        Gaetz Gives Up on US Attorney General Job (https://apnews.com/article/gaetz-trump-fbi-justice-department-248b46ba0c882dd46d661568e8bd3bd7)

Again, this was only a skirmish. But, it cost the Resistance 2.0 zero casualties, and zero political capital. So, we take this small win, and prepare for the next conflict.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 22, 2024, 11:04:41 AM
The PalmerReport is the first site I visit when looking for the latest political news and opinions. Here's Bill Palmer's take on the Gaetz exit from the US Attorney General nomination:

"How the Democrats took Matt Gaetz down behind the scenes"

As per this article:

"The Democrats will get no credit for this, because they never do, but they played a key role in forcing Matt Gaetz out. The Democrats still control the Senate Judiciary Committee for the moment, and they used it to formally request the ethics report last night. Gaetz must have thought they were going to get ahold of it, because he withdrew just hours after the request was made."

Here's the link to this short article:      The PalmerReport's Opinion on the Gaetz Nomination Exit (https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/how-the-democrats-took-matt-gaetz-down-behind-the-scenes/58979/)

I rarely reference articles from this site, as they're usually more opinions, insights, and political advice, than hard, first-hand news reports. Still, Bill Palmer's opinions and insights are valuable, and he never works both sides of the street for click bait. He's die-hard liberal all the way.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:21:53 AM
I was in the lab binging on grant writing when the Gaetz ouster happened.  I'll take a read.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 23, 2024, 02:03:13 PM
Here's what the next midterm elections currently look like for the US Senate:

2026 United States Senate Elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_Senate_elections)

It's not too early to start planning to defend the Democratic held seats, and attempt to pick up some of the Republican held seats. Given the damage TSF and his merry menagerie are likely to do to the country, there should be opportunities to make some gains in the Senate.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on November 23, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 24, 2024, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 23, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 24, 2024, 02:15:10 PM
At Least One Congressman in the Resistance 2.0 has a sense of humor:

"FEMA Chief Asked At Hearing Do You 'Control The Weather' Or 'Send Hurricanes' To Trump Areas"

As per this article:

"Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi (D-IL) asked FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell if she or her agency "controls the weather" or "sends hurricanes" to areas based on political considerations at a hearing this week.

Fired FEMA employee Marn'i Washington was dismissed for telling workers in Florida to skip Trump houses during the Hurricane Milton recovery effort — but Washington says she was following orders, and that her instruction was a temporary "avoidance and de-escalation" measure. During Hurricane Helen, relief work was delayed because of an "armed militia" hunting FEMA workers.

The House Oversight and Accountability Committee held a hearing this week on FEMA's response to hurricanes that focused mainly on the incident.

But when Rep. Krishnamoorthi's turn to question Administrator Criswell came around, he used part of his time to mock conspiracy theories that were spread by Republicans, including about "controlling the weather":

Here's the link to this article:      Congressman Has Fun While Debunking Republicult™ Conspiracy Theories (https://www.mediaite.com/news/fema-chief-asked-at-hearing-do-you-control-the-weather-or-send-hurricanes-to-trump-areas/)

That's the way you do it!
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on November 24, 2024, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 24, 2024, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 23, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AMI agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

Has the term "resistance" undergone this much semantic drift?  Not that surviving isn't a reasonable goal to have, mais ce n'est pas la résistance.

If your resistance doesn't include molotov cocktails, industrial sabotage, and the occasional drive-by egging, I think you're Doing it Wrong.

It's been eight years since Trump was elected the first time, and nothing anyone said or did in that interval stopped him from getting a second turn.  But I guess you all just weren't pointing out the issues with his presidency hard enough.  So let's all band together and talk about everything Trump is doing wrong, and how the people who voted for him were mistaken.  That'll stop him.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2024, 03:20:31 AM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on November 24, 2024, 03:12:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 24, 2024, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 23, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AMI agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

Has the term "resistance" undergone this much semantic drift?  Not that surviving isn't a reasonable goal to have, mais ce n'est pas la résistance.

If your resistance doesn't include molotov cocktails, industrial sabotage, and the occasional drive-by egging, I think you're Doing it Wrong.

It's been eight years since Trump was elected the first time, and nothing anyone said or did in that interval stopped him from getting a second turn.  But I guess you all just weren't pointing out the issues with his presidency hard enough.  So let's all band together and talk about everything Trump is doing wrong, and how the people who voted for him were mistaken.  That'll stop him.

This is so people can pretend that they're fighting fascism.

By hiding from it.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on November 25, 2024, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 24, 2024, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 23, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

 Along with work to help for when you inevitably become one
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on November 25, 2024, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 25, 2024, 06:32:47 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 24, 2024, 12:41:21 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 23, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on November 23, 2024, 04:10:28 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on November 17, 2024, 02:38:48 AM
Quote from: Brother Mythos on November 17, 2024, 02:07:28 AMBuyer's Remorse Alert! Buyer's Remorse Alert!

"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset (https://crooksandliars.com/2024/11/us-muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-his-pro)

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

 Along with work to help for when you inevitably become one

That's not resistance.  That's cowering.

But I have to ask:  What work to help will do any good when they scoop you up coming out of the grocery store?
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on November 27, 2024, 04:37:57 AM
The Resistance 2.0 is real, and some of it is coming from where it's least expected:

"Murkowski hints she'll be a leader in the 'resist Trump' movement"

As per this article:

"Sen. Lisa Murkowski was one of four Republicans who were hard no's on the appointment of Rep. Matt Gaetz as Attorney General. She didn't need an FBI report on him; she just said he was not a "serious candidate."

But in a walk-and-talk interview with a reporter, she has now indicated that she won't vote to confirm any of Trump's nominations unless they all get a thorough background check by the FBI."

Here's the link to this article:      Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski Will Help the Resistance 2.0 (https://mustreadalaska.com/murkowski-hints-shell-be-a-leader-in-the-resist-trump-movement/)

Senator Murkowski won her seat in 2010 as a write-in candidate. And, that, boys and girls, is no easy feat. So, TSF can do minimum damage to her political career.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Bruno on December 08, 2024, 05:49:08 AM
The Left and right are having a bit of a kumbaya moment right now over the killing of that healthcare CEO.

Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on December 08, 2024, 08:58:02 AM
Quote from: Bruno on December 08, 2024, 05:49:08 AMThe Left and right are having a bit of a kumbaya moment right now over the killing of that healthcare CEO.

I don't quite know what to make of what's going on with the news coverage of this murder. I mean, it's not like murder is a rarity in this country. Yet, this particular murder has dominated the news cycle for several days, and it's almost completely obscured what's happening right now in South Korea and Syria.

I realize this is an easy story for the MSM to cover in a huge media center like NYC. But, I do not sense that the general public is really all that interested in it. It has occurred to me, however, that some media moguls, billionaires, and oligarchs could find this particular murder to be quite upsetting.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Faust on December 08, 2024, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Bruno on December 08, 2024, 05:49:08 AMThe Left and right are having a bit of a kumbaya moment right now over the killing of that healthcare CEO.



Not a partisan thing, deeply republican relatives taking a lot of glee in it.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Menocchio on December 09, 2024, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 08, 2024, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Bruno on December 08, 2024, 05:49:08 AMThe Left and right are having a bit of a kumbaya moment right now over the killing of that healthcare CEO.



Not a partisan thing, deeply republican relatives taking a lot of glee in it.

I'm anxiously awaiting for copycats. I am not a member of the Great American Empire™ but I hope the sentiment bleeds over to the rest of the Americas. Maybe someone with a kind heart will take out some big landowners. Either way, this is not just a bipartisan phenomenon in the US. The whole world is watching.

I'm not naive enough to think The Current Thing© will spark a full-on global revolution, but the conversation has shifted and it gives me hope.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on December 22, 2024, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Menocchio on December 09, 2024, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: Faust on December 08, 2024, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: Bruno on December 08, 2024, 05:49:08 AMThe Left and right are having a bit of a kumbaya moment right now over the killing of that healthcare CEO.



Not a partisan thing, deeply republican relatives taking a lot of glee in it.

I'm anxiously awaiting for copycats. I am not a member of the Great American Empire™ but I hope the sentiment bleeds over to the rest of the Americas. Maybe someone with a kind heart will take out some big landowners. Either way, this is not just a bipartisan phenomenon in the US. The whole world is watching.

I'm not naive enough to think The Current Thing© will spark a full-on global revolution, but the conversation has shifted and it gives me hope.

Faust,

This provocative post had been here for several days before I noticed the poster's new "Guest" status. And, the post itself is still here, so I have no reason to believe it has been judged to fit the criteria of a "bannable offense."

So, would you be kind enough to enlighten me about what happened here?
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Faust on December 23, 2024, 12:13:20 AM
Ehm that was me according to the admin logs, it coincides with me hitting rejected on about 20 spam bots meaning it was the same action.

The thing is that the guy had already an approved account, only thing I can think of is they changed their email address which retriggers the activation state and they got caught up in mass rejection.

So, sorry menoccio, I obliterated your account. You aren't banned so you can sign up again and this time I'll try not to get you caught up in the collective punishment doled out on the bots.

This means the bots won, I couldn't see the tree for the woods, damn.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on December 23, 2024, 01:22:05 AM
Quote from: Faust on December 23, 2024, 12:13:20 AMEhm that was me according to the admin logs, it coincides with me hitting rejected on about 20 spam bots meaning it was the same action.

The thing is that the guy had already an approved account, only thing I can think of is they changed their email address which retriggers the activation state and they got caught up in mass rejection.

So, sorry menoccio, I obliterated your account. You aren't banned so you can sign up again and this time I'll try not to get you caught up in the collective punishment doled out on the bots.

This means the bots won, I couldn't see the tree for the woods, damn.

Thanks for the explanation. Now, that's a reason I would have never guessed.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Bruno on December 27, 2024, 05:37:49 AM
I, for one, would like too see the maximum positive outcome from this event.

I don't see the need for any further loss of life from either the bourgeoisie (including the petit bourgeoisie (who was the recipient of this latest action)) or the proletariat (that's YUO!)
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on December 27, 2024, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Bruno on December 27, 2024, 05:37:49 AMI, for one, would like too see the maximum positive outcome from this event.

I don't see the need for any further loss of life from either the bourgeoisie (including the petit bourgeoisie (who was the recipient of this latest action)) or the proletariat (that's YUO!)

Well, I would like $100 million and 30 minutes in the Orgasmatron with Lady Gaga.

The odds of our various asks being granted are exactly the same.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on December 27, 2024, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: Bruno on December 27, 2024, 05:37:49 AMI, for one, would like too see the maximum positive outcome from this event.

I don't see the need for any further loss of life from either the bourgeoisie (including the petit bourgeoisie (who was the recipient of this latest action)) or the proletariat (that's YUO!)

After reading your post, I realized that I may be able to utilize the word "proles" again, with the possibility that some people may actually be able to understand what I'm saying.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on January 01, 2025, 07:39:12 PM
I find articles like the following to be amusing. And, I hope the Disloyal Opposition Party Electorate (DOPE) find them to be both annoying, and distracting:

"Conservative Pundit Spots Deliciously Ironic Twist Plaguing Trump's 'Populist Yahoos'"

""Now they're the dog that caught the car," suggested Jonah Goldberg."

As per this article:

"Conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg this weekend said it would "take a heart of stone not to laugh at the situation" that the various factions of Donald Trump's allies have gotten themselves into, just weeks before the president-elect returns to the White House.

Trump is currently "stuck in this hard place" and not "quite yet figured out" how to appease the various tribes of his support, the former Fox News pundit-turned-editor-in-chief of The Dispatch told CNN's Kaitlan Collins."

Here's the link:   Pundit Says 'Populist Yahoos' Are "the dog that caught the car" (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jonah-goldberg-donald-trump-irony-of-allies_n_6772651ee4b04ef9e33e687d)

Still, as amusing as the notion may be, I don't believe "the dog that caught the car" idiom applies all that well to the current situation.

The way I see it, the barbarians have crashed the gate, and they're inside the city. But, they're momentarily distracted by all of the bright, shiny objects at hand, and they can't decide what to loot first. Nevertheless, it won't be long before their organized attempts to sack the city begin.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on January 09, 2025, 06:52:27 AM
"There was music in the cafés at night
And revolution in the air"

That partial lyric immediately came to mind when I first read this article's caption:

'We Risk Revolution!' Scott Galloway Goes on Epic Tirade Over CEO Murder and 'Out of Control' Wealth Inequality (https://www.mediaite.com/tv/we-risk-revolution-scott-galloway-goes-on-epic-tirade-over-ceo-murder-and-out-of-control-wealth-inequality/)

As per this article:

""We are in the midst of a series of small revolutions to correct income inequality. And the reason we put an insurrectionist and a rapist in office is because, for the first time in our nation's history, a 30-year-old man or woman isn't doing as well as his or his or her parents were at third. Why? Because the majority of households are having the oxygen sucked out of the room such that a small number of individuals and a small number of companies can be worth more than nation-states," he said.

"Income inequality is out of control. Our tax policy has gone full oligarch.""

After reading this article, I came to the conclusion that if "the reason we put an insurrectionist and a rapist in office is because, for the first time in our nation's history, a 30-year-old man or woman isn't doing as well as his or his or her parents were at third [sic]. (emphasis mine)", then we are really not very good at reasoning. Then, after coming to that conclusion, I began to wonder what, exactly, is at risk for we, with revolution in the air. And, that's because, given what I perceive to be we's fundamental reasoning problem, if there really is anything at risk, I'm not seeing it.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on January 17, 2025, 07:06:50 PM
I find the timing of this official Statement and Release to be both interesting and provocative:

Statement from President Joe Biden on the Equal Rights Amendment (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2025/01/17/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-the-equal-rights-amendment/)

I will be amazed if there is no significant pushback from the MAGAt States of 'Merica on the validity of the 28th Amendment. Still, if the opposition from the usual suspects doesn't ultimately serve to fire up and organize the Resistance 2.0, it is likely that nothing will.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on January 31, 2025, 01:12:53 AM
The Democratic Party's leadership is attempting to learn from their past mistakes:

Democrats' playbook for Trump 2.0: Tune out the noise and focus on economic issues (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-playbook-trump-tune-noise-focus-economic-issues-rcna189180)

"As Trump floods the zone in his first week in office, Democrats are departing from their "resistance" strategy in his first term and zeroing in on issues that cost them the last election."

As per this article:

"WASHINGTON — Less than 48 hours after President Donald Trump was inaugurated, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries held a closed-door meeting with Democratic lawmakers to issue a warning and a clarion call.

The new administration was going to "flood the zone," and Democrats couldn't afford to chase every single outrage — or nothing was going to sink in for the American people, Jeffries told them, according to a person in the room who requested anonymity to discuss the private meeting.

Jeffries, D-N.Y., urged members to focus their message on the cost of living, along with border security and community safety."

And, while many in the Democratic Party's leadership are naive, overall they're not stupid. Taking back the U. S. House of Representatives in 2026 is a doable objective. And, the Disloyal Opposition Party does have a lot of senate seats to defend in the next election.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on February 04, 2025, 08:01:58 PM
I'm seeing this quotation from U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) popping up on the internet today:

"Elon Musk you know, you can take the boy out of apartheid but you can't take apartheid out of the boy. He's out here doing Nazi salutes. Whatever."

This lady is an admirable, inspirational leader of the Resistance 2.0. We need many more like her.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PM
The new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on February 07, 2025, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Please provide a link to a quotation from Ken Martin about these "good billionaires," if it is your intention to initiate a discussion about his speech.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on February 08, 2025, 03:23:03 AM
This is something I sincerely hope the Resistance 2.0 quickly organizes around, and rises up against:

Trump to create religious office in White House, target 'anti-Christian bias' (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-sign-order-targeting-anti-christian-bias-2025-02-06/)

I, and I believe most of you here, want freedom from their hypocritical religion, not a Christofascist theocracy running this country's government. (Obviously, I wouldn't be here on this forum if I did.)

This intrusion on my life makes my blood boil. Needless to say, my elected representatives will be receiving some of my more blunt emails concerning this particular outrage.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 07, 2025, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Please provide a link to a quotation from Ken Martin about these "good billionaires," if it is your intention to initiate a discussion about his speech.


I'm having trouble finding the full speech, but here's the quote in question.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/8o1em3pntkge1/pb/m2-res_478p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1739224800&s=c88947d5dd1244eb1e1aaa500d5554a82e51932f
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Faust on February 10, 2025, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.
I don't disagree with this, American policy in the middle east is to build a homogeneous western values (watches friends reruns and porn) nation with Israel, the key difference is the time frame, ironically trumps approach is more likely to cause world war 3 then the subversive slow approach allowed over the last couple of years.
I am glad that trump is bad at it
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.

What, Harris said she would cut aid to zero?

Or did she say she'd ethnically cleanse Gaza?

Or do you just have some extraordinary ability to read her mind?
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2025, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.
I don't disagree with this, American policy in the middle east is to build a homogeneous western values (watches friends reruns and porn) nation with Israel, the key difference is the time frame, ironically trumps approach is more likely to cause world war 3 then the subversive slow approach allowed over the last couple of years.
I am glad that trump is bad at it

Yeah, at least Trump only shut off all USAID food supplies to Gaza.

Someone else might have done something BAD.   :lulz:
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on February 10, 2025, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 07, 2025, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Please provide a link to a quotation from Ken Martin about these "good billionaires," if it is your intention to initiate a discussion about his speech.


I'm having trouble finding the full speech, but here's the quote in question.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/8o1em3pntkge1/pb/m2-res_478p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1739224800&s=c88947d5dd1244eb1e1aaa500d5554a82e51932f

Thanks for posting the link.

Now then, as I am not anyone's stenographer, I'm paraphrasing when I write that I heard Ken Martin publicly say that there are good billionaires out there who share the Democratic Party's values, and the party is willing to accept their money.

I, personally, have no reason to not accept Ken Martin's statement at face value. For what it's worth, I am not a member of the Democratic Party. Therefore, "I have no skin in the game."
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Faust on February 10, 2025, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:36:07 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2025, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.
I don't disagree with this, American policy in the middle east is to build a homogeneous western values (watches friends reruns and porn) nation with Israel, the key difference is the time frame, ironically trumps approach is more likely to cause world war 3 then the subversive slow approach allowed over the last couple of years.
I am glad that trump is bad at it

Yeah, at least Trump only shut off all USAID food supplies to Gaza.

Someone else might have done something BAD.   :lulz:

I mean yeah he is objectively worse than what harris would have done.
But at this point he will end up uniting all Muslim countries in solidarity with the nation of Palestine against Israel and the USA
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 10, 2025, 09:47:16 PMI mean yeah he is objectively worse than what harris would have done.
But at this point he will end up uniting all Muslim countries in solidarity with the nation of Palestine against Israel and the USA

I am just laughing at the Tumblr-esque inability to tell bad from worse.

This country deserves what is happening to it, because stupidity is the only crime that is recognized by the sidereal universe itself.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on February 12, 2025, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.

What, Harris said she would cut aid to zero?

Or did she say she'd ethnically cleanse Gaza?

Or do you just have some extraordinary ability to read her mind?

She said she'd continue funding and supporting Israel, as they ethnically cleansed Gaza, the result for Gazans is the same.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on February 12, 2025, 05:40:02 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 10, 2025, 09:26:52 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:47:03 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 07, 2025, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Please provide a link to a quotation from Ken Martin about these "good billionaires," if it is your intention to initiate a discussion about his speech.


I'm having trouble finding the full speech, but here's the quote in question.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/8o1em3pntkge1/pb/m2-res_478p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1739224800&s=c88947d5dd1244eb1e1aaa500d5554a82e51932f

Thanks for posting the link.

Now then, as I am not anyone's stenographer, I'm paraphrasing when I write that I heard Ken Martin publicly say that there are good billionaires out there who share the Democratic Party's values, and the party is willing to accept their money.

I, personally, have no reason to not accept Ken Martin's statement at face value. For what it's worth, I am not a member of the Democratic Party. Therefore, "I have no skin in the game."

Sounds accurate to me. 
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2025, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 12, 2025, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.

What, Harris said she would cut aid to zero?

Or did she say she'd ethnically cleanse Gaza?

Or do you just have some extraordinary ability to read her mind?

She said she'd continue funding and supporting Israel, as they ethnically cleansed Gaza, the result for Gazans is the same.

Did she say she'd forcibly remove all 2.1 million Gazans?  And state that they would have no right to return?

You did this.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Pergamos on February 13, 2025, 05:29:19 PM
I understan
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2025, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 12, 2025, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.

What, Harris said she would cut aid to zero?

Or did she say she'd ethnically cleanse Gaza?

Or do you just have some extraordinary ability to read her mind?

She said she'd continue funding and supporting Israel, as they ethnically cleansed Gaza, the result for Gazans is the same.

Did she say she'd forcibly remove all 2.1 million Gazans?  And state that they would have no right to return?

You did this.

I know you're Canadian originally, so not understanding how the electoral college works is more excuseable than it is for someone born here.  My vote was counted towards Kamala Harris, despite my having voted 3rd party, because winner takes all the electoral votes in a state.  I didn't do this.  Your vote meanwhile, was counted for Trump, despite you having voted for Harris.  You did this, you didn't convince enough of your neighbors to vote with you, so your vote went for the new dictator.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: chaotic neutral observer on February 14, 2025, 04:14:15 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 13, 2025, 05:29:19 PM[...] my having voted 3rd party [...]

You wanted Harris to lose, and she did.  You and your kind are responsible for what happens now.  However far up your ass you stick your head, it will not wash the blood from your hands.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 15, 2025, 10:49:50 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 13, 2025, 05:29:19 PMI understan
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 13, 2025, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 12, 2025, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 10, 2025, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 10, 2025, 05:43:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 08, 2025, 01:11:50 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 07, 2025, 06:30:59 PMThe new DNC chair was giving a speech about how there are good billionaires, so I don't really think they're going to be focusing on the parts of the economy that help working people...

Speaking about that, you see Musk's thing on USAID?

Food and medical aid to Gaza is now zero (0) dollars.

How'd that protest work out, Sparky?   :lulz:

I live in a solidly blue state, my 3rd party vote for president made no difference in the result, WA's electoral votes still went to Harris, my down ballot votes were all Dem, and may have made a difference since my county is a little more conservative than normal for the state.  What Trump is doing to Gaza is what Harris would have done to Gaza, he's just bragging about it.

What, Harris said she would cut aid to zero?

Or did she say she'd ethnically cleanse Gaza?

Or do you just have some extraordinary ability to read her mind?

She said she'd continue funding and supporting Israel, as they ethnically cleansed Gaza, the result for Gazans is the same.

Did she say she'd forcibly remove all 2.1 million Gazans?  And state that they would have no right to return?

You did this.

I know you're Canadian originally, so not understanding how the electoral college works is more excuseable than it is for someone born here.  My vote was counted towards Kamala Harris, despite my having voted 3rd party, because winner takes all the electoral votes in a state.  I didn't do this.  Your vote meanwhile, was counted for Trump, despite you having voted for Harris.  You did this, you didn't convince enough of your neighbors to vote with you, so your vote went for the new dictator.

I was born in America and have lived here since 1979, you fucking pinecone.

I find it fucking hysterical that a damn useless prog is trying to give me a civics lesson.

I hope you get all the America you can stand.  And then some.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Doktor Howl on February 15, 2025, 10:50:45 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on February 14, 2025, 04:14:15 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 13, 2025, 05:29:19 PM[...] my having voted 3rd party [...]

You wanted Harris to lose, and she did.  You and your kind are responsible for what happens now.  However far up your ass you stick your head, it will not wash the blood from your hands.


Progs like this shit, because it makes them feel like they're top-tier resistance fighters.

Which seems to involve gardening.
Title: Re: The Resistance 2.0!
Post by: Abbot Mythos on June 27, 2025, 03:03:18 PM
I found this to be an amusing question:

Was Donald Trump Mocked by Dutch Royalty? What We Know (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dutch-royals-mocking-nato-summit-2091158)

As per this article:

"President Donald Trump appeared to be subtly mocked by Dutch royalty during a NATO summit in The Hague on Wednesday.

Trump was photographed alongside Queen Máxima and King Willem-Alexander at the Huis ten Bosch Palace shortly after arriving at the summit. Standing between the two royals, Trump flashed a thumbs-up and told photographers: "That's the picture we want!"

The King followed with a polite, "I hope you slept well," to which Trump replied, "It was great," smiling and thanking those present.

However, as the moment wrapped up, Queen Máxima appeared to mimic Trump's mouth movements before turning back to face the cameras."

So, now I have a question of my own:

Is Queen Máxima a member of the Resistance 2.0?