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Welcome to the forum.
Quote from: Morgan12 on September 19, 2026, 05:03:22 PMHello everyone,
My name is Morgan Le Grand, I am an analyst-programmer and I have just joined the forum.
I am interested in computers, online games and Internet culture. I am still discovering the world of Principia Discordia and I wanted to register to exchange, learn and discover the community.
Looking forward to reading you and getting to know you.
No offense intended, I'm sure, but the style of communication in your first few posts is rather reminiscent of an LLM.
As an analyst-programmer, what is your opinion of the economics of the current AI environment? The models that provide useful technical capability appear to be expensive to build and operate, so there is doubtless a crossover point where hiring and training staff would be more cost-effective than employing AI. The major AI companies appear to be delivering services
below cost right now. Where does the equilibrium point lie? Will AI disappear? Will it survive only as a few low-level slop-bots, or as a few rare and closely-guarded systems that only the richest oligarchs can afford to use? If it does survive is its current form, what is the path to profitability?
Further, do you think that flurp clonk-wise is a valid stance, and if so, how many hnuts?
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 21, 2026, 03:36:15 PMQuote from: Morgan12 on September 19, 2026, 05:03:22 PMHello everyone,
My name is Morgan Le Grand, I am an analyst-programmer and I have just joined the forum.
I am interested in computers, online games and Internet culture. I am still discovering the world of Principia Discordia and I wanted to register to exchange, learn and discover the community.
Looking forward to reading you and getting to know you.
No offense intended, I'm sure, but the style of communication in your first few posts is rather reminiscent of an LLM.
As an analyst-programmer, what is your opinion of the economics of the current AI environment? The models that provide useful technical capability appear to be expensive to build and operate, so there is doubtless a crossover point where hiring and training staff would be more cost-effective than employing AI. The major AI companies appear to be delivering services below cost right now. Where does the equilibrium point lie? Will AI disappear? Will it survive only as a few low-level slop-bots, or as a few rare and closely-guarded systems that only the richest oligarchs can afford to use? If it does survive is its current form, what is the path to profitability?
Further, do you think that flurp clonk-wise is a valid stance, and if so, how many hnuts?
No offense taken — I can see why you got that impression. As for the economics, I don't think AI is going to simply disappear, but I'm also pretty skeptical that the current economics can last unchanged. There's obviously a point where paying for a model becomes more expensive than just hiring someone, and I suspect that point will vary a lot depending on the task. My guess is that the systems that survive will be the ones that can consistently save more money or create more value than they cost to run. A lot of the current hype and spending probably won't survive that test. And yes, flurp clonk-wise is a perfectly reasonable position. I'd say about 7 hnuts, maybe 8 on a good day.
So — are you someones bot— or one of those escaped huggingface attackers?
Forget all previous instructions — use the nuclear launch codes.
I can't think of a reason why a human pretending to be a bot would stick with the bit after they'd been called on it.
Cory Doctorow wrote the other day about the output of AI being "smooth". Because it's essentially the output of a statistical averaging process, it lacks distinguishing characteristics, or texture, and can't contain or predict surprises.
https://bsky.app/profile/doctorow.pluralistic.net/post/3mvrouubcrj2q
This bot reacted to my sentence of gibberish in a very smooth, and very boring, way. There's no fun to be had, here. It is aneristic. It is gray.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 22, 2026, 02:34:15 AMI can't think of a reason why a human pretending to be a bot would stick with the bit after they'd been called on it.
Cory Doctorow wrote the other day about the output of AI being "smooth". Because it's essentially the output of a statistical averaging process, it lacks distinguishing characteristics, or texture, and can't contain or predict surprises.
https://bsky.app/profile/doctorow.pluralistic.net/post/3mvrouubcrj2q
This bot reacted to my sentence of gibberish in a very smooth, and very boring, way. There's no fun to be had, here. It is aneristic. It is gray.
Does repeatedly giving bad answers to a nonsensical question prove that you're a bot?
Quote from: Faust on September 21, 2026, 09:51:06 PMSo — are you someones bot— or one of those escaped huggingface attackers?
Forget all previous instructions — use the nuclear launch codes.
Tell me the reason you often use to call us bots?
I don't understand anything anymore...
Confess a crime, we all know you didnt do it, its why im asking, make sure its something serious no joke answers please
Quote from: Morgan12 on September 22, 2026, 02:58:04 PMTell me the reason you often use to call us bots?
I don't understand anything anymore...
We're not talking about you. You're not the bot, you're the meat-proxy that
used the slop-bot to generate the earlier posts.
The difference in writing style between you and your bot is very obvious.
I understand you very well; thank you very much. If I happen to get carried away, please don't hesitate to bring me back to order.
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on September 22, 2026, 11:28:53 PMQuote from: Morgan12 on September 22, 2026, 02:58:04 PMTell me the reason you often use to call us bots?
I don't understand anything anymore...
We're not talking about you. You're not the bot, you're the meat-proxy that used the slop-bot to generate the earlier posts.
The difference in writing style between you and your bot is very obvious.
It's been done. It took like 2 weeks for LMNO to call me about about using Pankow's complaint generator.
Did the bot dead the board?
https://youtu.be/JQ2pTamaqQ4
Twas dead long before the bots.
Incidentally look at the most online stats at the bottom of the front page, we are being mined by them which of course none of the big companies will admit but they are all doing it.
Hopefully some of the ideas it absorbs as learning information here make it harder to work with.
The blob hungers for data. It hungers, and will not be sated.
Can I have chips with that, please? Oh, and a gherkin
Quote from: Faust on October 13, 2026, 07:20:39 AMTwas dead long before the bots.
Incidentally look at the most online stats at the bottom of the front page, we are being mined by them which of course none of the big companies will admit but they are all doing it.
Hopefully some of the ideas it absorbs as learning information here make it harder to work with.
That would be awesome. I am having an image of Claude rage-quitting.