Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: B_M_W on March 05, 2005, 05:27:27 AM

Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 05, 2005, 05:27:27 AM
In the last two weeks I have had a long crossing with Our Lady of Perpetual Discord. Either I crosses her path, or crosses my fingers, or crosses my eyes at her, or she was just bitchy about something I did or didn't do, or thought about doing. Or she just wanted me to learn some cool fun stuff, and so she forced me to learn the only way she knows. Through Chaos.

I am usually a pretty computer literate fellow. I know my way around the Win XP OS better than most. I can find almost anything I need using google. I have picked up most of the tricks that can be used in such a system.

But over the past few months, I had become increasingly aware of an itch forming in the back of my mind. This itch grew and grew without me realizing, until it was so strong I was unable to contain it. So I gave in, like the passive person I am. That itch was...

Obsession.

And Im not talking the normal "I think about it constantly, and spend all my freetime doing it." No, no. Its never like that for me. Obsession to me is always "I think, eat, breath, sleep, and DREAM it until I am so exausted that the Obsession itch wears out".

And this is a reacurring thing. One month it was calculus, another it was geology. I spent a whole six weeks pondering Lichens last fall. (Which are actually pretty cool, but thats another story).

This particular itch happened to be: Open Source software, and especially, Linux. Ah, the Unix God-Kernal Linux, how I did worship thee.

Anywho, Linux and open source became my life. I was...entranced by its non-corporate beauty, its non-binary programming, and especially, its amazing skills and non-error sensibilites.

Like I said earlier, I think these obsessions are the Crazy Lady's doings. They turn my life upsidedown as I am wrapped in her embrace of discord. I forget to eat for days at a time. Or drink. And I also find myself running to the toilet just before I burst. But the Chaotic Obsession drives me.

Which is where I come to the point of my rant
Wait, theres a point
Yes there is a point.

I have discovered over the years that, the times where I learn the most, are these times of Chaos, of obsession. Chaos FORCES  a person to learn. If you don't learn, you have a hard time surviving. Chaos is the way Eris teaches us all how to survive.  True, if we fail to listen, to become enveloped and learn, we probably don't lose our body, mind or both immediatly. Instead, what  those who have seen with Goddess' help to be an amazing, beautiful and humourous Multi-verse, is seen as a dull and ugly speck of humourless existance.

This obsession phase is over. But I hope Our Lady of Perpetual Discord brings another round soon.

~Yurito Sakari~

The Wannabe Buddhist Monk
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:05:16 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeOr she just wanted me to learn some cool fun stuff, and so she forced me to learn the only way she knows. Through Chaos.

Nice post.  However, you erred in the above sentence.

FACT:  Eris doesn't care about humanity.  Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her.  She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2005, 06:15:49 AM
She doesn't care, but there are little spots of utopia in her womb, and wtf do I know about death?
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 05, 2005, 09:40:32 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeLike I said earlier, I think these obsessions are the Crazy Lady's doings. They turn my life upsidedown as I am wrapped in her embrace of discord. I forget to eat for days at a time. Or drink. And I also find myself running to the toilet just before I burst. But the Chaotic Obsession drives me.

I always find that vaguely annoying, when you forget to eat.  And the toilet thing too, been there.
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 05, 2005, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerFACT:  Eris doesn't care about humanity.  Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her.  She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.

Revered-end,

You continue to be blinded by your own misanthropy. Let it go.

G.
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Irreverend Hugh, KSC on March 05, 2005, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeOr she just wanted me to learn some cool fun stuff, and so she forced me to learn the only way she knows. Through Chaos.

Nice post.  However, you erred in the above sentence.

FACT:  Eris doesn't care about humanity.  Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her.  She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.

Right on.

Which makes Her the best deity to talk to and/or/about.

For fuck sake! You think I actually want deities to care and to interfere with our lives? I mean look at history and shit.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: gnimbley on March 05, 2005, 02:02:16 PM
Actually, I think she does care, if only because Zeus told her not to.
But that doesn't mean she is actually going to do anything
because of that. You're still on your own.
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on March 05, 2005, 02:50:18 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeOr she just wanted me to learn some cool fun stuff, and so she forced me to learn the only way she knows. Through Chaos.

Nice post.  However, you erred in the above sentence.

FACT:  Eris doesn't care about humanity.  Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her.  She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.

She didn't do it, that's the beauty of it.  She threw an apple, 3 goddesses couldn't agree, the head god was a chicken shit then throw in a horny human male  :roll:  At any point, if any one of the other players had been more mature than a 3rd grader we wouldn't have had the Trojan War.  All because of an apple.  She is the wings of the butterfly in the Amazon that creates a record number of hurricanes in Florida.  Kallisti!
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeOr she just wanted me to learn some cool fun stuff, and so she forced me to learn the only way she knows. Through Chaos.

Nice post.  However, you erred in the above sentence.

FACT:  Eris doesn't care about humanity.  Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her.  She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.

She didn't do it, that's the beauty of it.  She threw an apple, 3 goddesses couldn't agree, the head god was a chicken shit then throw in a horny human male  :roll:  At any point, if any one of the other players had been more mature than a 3rd grader we wouldn't have had the Trojan War.  All because of an apple.  She is the wings of the butterfly in the Amazon that creates a record number of hurricanes in Florida.  Kallisti!

She knew all that when she tossed the apple.  A whole civilization was destroyed because she got snubbed.

I can dig that.  But please don't tell me she's benevolent.
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: Slapdash & Cavalier
Quote from: The Good Reverend RogerFACT:  Eris doesn't care about humanity.  Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her.  She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.

Revered-end,

You continue to be blinded by your own misanthropy. Let it go.

G.

Misanthropy?  We're talking about a Goddess, not people.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 06:25:12 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyShe didn't do it, that's the beauty of it. She threw an apple, 3 goddesses couldn't agree, the head god was a chicken shit then throw in a horny human male. At any point, if any one of the other players had been more mature than a 3rd grader we wouldn't have had the Trojan War. All because of an apple. She is the wings of the butterfly in the Amazon that creates a record number of hurricanes in Florida. Kallisti!

Of course Eris knew they'd fight, duh, why else did she put the intentionally vague "Kallisti" on the apple instead of "For the Bride?" She was testing them, and they flunked big time.

:mrgreen:  >:D
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: agent compassion
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyShe didn't do it, that's the beauty of it. She threw an apple, 3 goddesses couldn't agree, the head god was a chicken shit then throw in a horny human male. At any point, if any one of the other players had been more mature than a 3rd grader we wouldn't have had the Trojan War. All because of an apple. She is the wings of the butterfly in the Amazon that creates a record number of hurricanes in Florida. Kallisti!

Of course Eris knew they'd fight, duh, why else did she put the intentionally vague "Kallisti" on the apple instead of "For the Bride?" She was testing them, and they flunked big time.

:mrgreen:  >:D

Chef told me to say:

"AND1!!"
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 05, 2005, 06:27:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
She knew all that when she tossed the apple.  A whole civilization was destroyed because she got snubbed.

And words cant express how much I aspire to that level...I'm not destructive for destructions sake, honest... :twisted:

I kind of view her as a giant deity cat. Like with most cats, you will be mostly tolerated so long as you amuse it.  Mostly, as this wont stop them having an occasional nibble of your fingers when you get complacent.  However, the worst is normally saved for others.  I say normally, because like with cats, you can never tell....
Title: Re: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: Scribe
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
She knew all that when she tossed the apple.  A whole civilization was destroyed because she got snubbed.

And words cant express how much I aspire to that level...I'm not destructive for destructions sake, honest... :twisted:

I kind of view her as a giant deity cat. Like with most cats, you will be mostly tolerated so long as you amuse it.  Mostly, as this wont stop them having an occasional nibble of your fingers when you get complacent.  However, the worst is normally saved for others.  I say normally, because like with cats, you can never tell....

If Eris is a cat, mankind is a chew toy.  Ignored except when being savaged.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2005, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: agent compassion
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyShe didn't do it, that's the beauty of it. She threw an apple, 3 goddesses couldn't agree, the head god was a chicken shit then throw in a horny human male. At any point, if any one of the other players had been more mature than a 3rd grader we wouldn't have had the Trojan War. All because of an apple. She is the wings of the butterfly in the Amazon that creates a record number of hurricanes in Florida. Kallisti!

Of course Eris knew they'd fight, duh, why else did she put the intentionally vague "Kallisti" on the apple instead of "For the Bride?" She was testing them, and they flunked big time.

:mrgreen:  >:D

Chef told me to say:

"AND1!!"
!!!!!1She is thee one and only Goddess.  All the other Gods and Goddesses are just figments of HER [spongebob voice]imagination[/spongebob voice]  They're all just HER pawns.  We are all HER playthings, and SHE's a mean little child who likes to break HER toys.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:31:46 PM
Quote from: ?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: agent compassion
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of AlchemyShe didn't do it, that's the beauty of it. She threw an apple, 3 goddesses couldn't agree, the head god was a chicken shit then throw in a horny human male. At any point, if any one of the other players had been more mature than a 3rd grader we wouldn't have had the Trojan War. All because of an apple. She is the wings of the butterfly in the Amazon that creates a record number of hurricanes in Florida. Kallisti!

Of course Eris knew they'd fight, duh, why else did she put the intentionally vague "Kallisti" on the apple instead of "For the Bride?" She was testing them, and they flunked big time.

:mrgreen:  >:D

Chef told me to say:

"AND1!!"
!!!!!1She is thee one and only Goddess.  All the other Gods and Goddesses are just figments of HER [spongebob voice]imagination[/spongebob voice]

Then who'd she throw the apple to?  Hmmm?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 05, 2005, 06:33:09 PM
QuoteNice post. However, you erred in the above sentence.

FACT: Eris doesn't care about humanity. Look at what she did to us, just because some of the other Gods snubbed her. She doesn't care, in fact, she doesn't even realize we're here.

Maybe she does, and maybe she doesn't. The point is, she seems to like Chaos. Alot. And that Chaos which invelops me during my times of obsession, the discord that teaches me, is obviously the same chaos that she creates. So attribute it to her benevolence, so what?! Who am I hurting if I believe so?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Ben on March 05, 2005, 06:33:11 PM
One of HER alternate tentacles.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe

So attribute it to her benevolence, so what?! Who am I hurting if I believe so?

America.  

Stop hurting America, BMW.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 05, 2005, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe

So attribute it to her benevolence, so what?! Who am I hurting if I believe so?

America.  

Stop hurting America, BMW.

But what will we do for fun now?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 05, 2005, 06:44:02 PM
QuoteAmerica.

Stop hurting America, BMW.

America is hurting itself. What we need is some good ol' fasion Erisian justice to get the cycles that have stagnated into Destructive Anerisianism moving again.

Id vote for Eris for pres. At least things would be more interesting.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:45:50 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
QuoteAmerica.

Stop hurting America, BMW.

America is hurting itself. What we need is some good ol' fasion Erisian justice to get the cycles that have stagnated into Destructive Anerisianism moving again.

Id vote for Eris for pres. At least things would be more interesting.

There is nothing aneristic about Bush.

He is, IMO, the #1 Discordian Saint.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 06:46:38 PM
Eris for President?!!!!


Hell yes!
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: agent compassionEris for President?!!!!


Hell yes!

Nope.  SHe isn't AMerican-born, and is thus ineligible.

Besides, why the hell would she take the demotion?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 06:51:24 PM
She can possess anyone she wants, doi.

AS-YET-UNKNOWN ERISTIC AVATAR FOR PRESIDENT '08!

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 05, 2005, 06:51:52 PM
QuoteThere is nothing aneristic about Bush.

He is, IMO, the #1 Discordian Saint.

Nahh, he's not smart enough to be the Chaotician that you think he is. In fact, hes just one part of a hive organization. And as a whole, they are definatly the image of Greyface.

Maybe I should make some buttons....Eris for President....hmmmm....
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 06:56:23 PM
He's so grey, he even wears grey suits!!!!
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
QuoteThere is nothing aneristic about Bush.

He is, IMO, the #1 Discordian Saint.

Nahh, he's not smart enough to be the Chaotician that you think he is. In fact, hes just one part of a hive organization. And as a whole, they are definatly the image of Greyface.

Maybe I should make some buttons....Eris for President....hmmmm....

Who says you have to be smart, or even good, to be a discordian?

Bush has caused more chaos than anyone since Sergio Princip.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on March 05, 2005, 06:59:59 PM
I think a lot of it has been created through trying to impose order, so I'd say he's an unintentional discordian saint. Not that the distinction matters much, just saying.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 07:02:30 PM
Quote from: Bob the BabyI think a lot of it has been created through trying to impose order, so I'd say he's an unintentional discordian saint. Not that the distinction matters much, just saying.

I don't see any distinction, at all.  Motives are meaningless in this context.

Whattaya think this is?  CHRISTIANITY? :lol:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 07:05:12 PM
Meh.

He is a member of one of them Orders of Discordia founded by Greyface. "Political Party for War on Evil" I think.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 07:06:25 PM
Quote from: agent compassionMeh.

He is a member of one of them Orders of Discordia founded by Greyface. "Political Party for War on Evil" I think.

Doesn't make his chaos any less valid.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on March 05, 2005, 07:12:45 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Bob the BabyI think a lot of it has been created through trying to impose order, so I'd say he's an unintentional discordian saint. Not that the distinction matters much, just saying.

I don't see any distinction, at all.  Motives are meaningless in this context.

Whattaya think this is?  CHRISTIANITY? :lol:

I do know a christian guy who thinks god did stuff to him that sounds surprisingly like a mindfuck. Not sure what that proves, but I'm sure it's something.
But yeah, the unintentional chaos is the least predictable, unless I'm just speaking gibberish.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 07:19:37 PM
the point is, just because Bush accidentally created some chaos in the name of creating order, doesn't mean we should give him friggin PROPS for it...
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: agent compassionthe point is, just because Bush accidentally created some chaos in the name of creating order, doesn't mean we should give him friggin PROPS for it...

Since when is being a Discordian Saint "props"?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: Mister I don't care about titles but I'm still a reverendSince when is being a Discordian Saint "props"?

::adjusts her huge fuckin' sombrero::

Since I said so, mister. That's when.  :mrgreen:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 05, 2005, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: agent compassion
Quote from: Mister I don't care about titles but I'm still a reverendSince when is being a Discordian Saint "props"?

::adjusts her huge fuckin' sombrero::

Since I said so, mister. That's when.  :mrgreen:

Don't point that frickin' hat at ME, lady...
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 05, 2005, 07:31:05 PM
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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 05, 2005, 08:02:39 PM
The Chaos, what there is of it (not much), created by bush is pretty weak. More like poor Distructive Erisian, if that.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: gnimbley on March 05, 2005, 08:56:27 PM
I am still voting for Bella.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on March 05, 2005, 10:07:54 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeThe Chaos, what there is of it (not much), created by bush is pretty weak. More like poor Distructive Erisian, if that.

8)
You're kidding, right?  We have another Vietnam, except our boys, and girls this time, are trudging through sand instead of jungle.  They are being shot at and bombed by people they can't find, they are being asked to torture innocent people, then get sent to military prison for obeying orders(FYI, if you are in the military, you get orders you think are wrong, they probably are, either don't do it, or for Bob's sake do NEVER take pictures :roll: ) And we are going to be there another 10 years, minimum.  Maybe more.  

We are losing many of our constitutional freedoms, freedoms our forefathers died for and our children may have to die for to win them back.  

The economy is in the toilet like it has not been since, probably the 30's.  At least in my area.  That's not all Bush's fault, but he hasn't helped.  And if someone doesn't do something about NAFTA, we may all have to move to Mexico to get a decent job.  

OK, there we have 3 areas of major chaos, some of it directly because of Bush, some indirectly.  Some of it means our country is permanently screwed.  Sounds pretty much like he may be the king of chaos.  As much as I hate to admit it.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 05, 2005, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeThe Chaos, what there is of it (not much), created by bush is pretty weak. More like poor Distructive Erisian, if that.

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You're kidding, right?  We have another Vietnam, except our boys, and girls this time, are trudging through sand instead of jungle.  They are being shot at and bombed by people they can't find, they are being asked to torture innocent people, then get sent to military prison for obeying orders(FYI, if you are in the military, you get orders you think are wrong, they probably are, either don't do it, or for Bob's sake do NEVER take pictures :roll: ) And we are going to be there another 10 years, minimum.  Maybe more.  

We are losing many of our constitutional freedoms, freedoms our forefathers died for and our children may have to die for to win them back.  

The economy is in the toilet like it has not been since, probably the 30's.  At least in my area.  That's not all Bush's fault, but he hasn't helped.  And if someone doesn't do something about NAFTA, we may all have to move to Mexico to get a decent job.  

OK, there we have 3 areas of major chaos, some of it directly because of Bush, some indirectly.  Some of it means our country is permanently screwed.  Sounds pretty much like he may be the king of chaos.  As much as I hate to admit it.

But, looking on the bright side, we still have the Eurovision Song Contest.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 01:16:25 AM
Quote from: ScribeBut, looking on the bright side, we still have the Eurovision Song Contest.

::stabs Scribe::

It had to be done.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 06, 2005, 01:37:48 AM
Quote from: agent compassion
Quote from: ScribeBut, looking on the bright side, we still have the Eurovision Song Contest.

::stabs Scribe::

It had to be done.

You know you love it.  Or at least Terry Wogan's commentary.  He has actually been banned from countries for his comments about certain performers and presenters! :lol:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 01:44:48 AM
:cough:

I'm in America, remember? They don't show the ESC here. However, we do have American Idol and Dick Clark.

Wanna trade?

:twisted:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 06, 2005, 01:48:23 AM
Quote from: agent compassion:cough:

I'm in America, remember? They don't show the ESC here. However, we do have American Idol and Dick Clark.

Wanna trade?

:twisted:

Terry Wogan, ex Radio 1 presenter, he starts drinking half an hour before going on air for Eurovision. He has a dry witty humour that woudl rip Simon Cowell to shreds.  I wouldnt swap it for the world...you know some people hold Eurovision parties?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Laughter on the Wind on March 06, 2005, 01:54:12 AM
Since when was polarization of all opinion into a "you are for us or against us" bi-categorisation chaotic?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 02:17:19 AM
since Bush said so, hippy. Now get with the program, or you'll soon be getting a visit from Gonzales!

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 06, 2005, 02:46:50 AM
To recap, I mean that the Erisianism I love, the creative erisianism, was very little or absent. It was more like a Destructive Anerisianism that turned out to be Destructively Erisian. Both are poor in my opinion, the second being only a little less so, depending upon the degrees of destructivity and the degreess of Erisianism.

And Turd, Id think you'd have at least one or two things to say about my first rant. Come on, tell me what you think.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 02:50:02 AM
actually, I got here late and jumped right in to this page, but I'll read it in the morning and tell you what I think...but you should know that I think that destructive disorder is a beautiful thing all by itself...that it's a necessary precursor to creative order/disorder is just icing on the cake...

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 05:18:56 PM
I'm of the mind that there's plenty of destructive disorder as it is, and many willing to do it, and when there's too much of that, people instinctively begin to generate destructive order in an attempt to contain it, which becomes repressive and only sets off a new cycle of destructive disorder, so if you ask me, do I want destructive order or destructive disorder? I'll say neither, thanks, because I was wired to be creative, whether that be orderly or disorderly, and nobody wants to take up THAT slack, and create something new, and go to the trouble of self-examination and hard thought and work and finally displaying the new creation for the world to see and judge - no, most people are not up for that level of commitment, to them it's FAR easier to destroy what someone else has already made.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 06, 2005, 05:21:09 PM
:Plays one note on the flute and bows to AC:

^___________________________________^
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 06, 2005, 05:58:40 PM
Quote from: agent compassionI'm of the mind that there's plenty of destructive disorder as it is, and many willing to do it, and when there's too much of that, people instinctively begin to generate destructive order in an attempt to contain it, which becomes repressive and only sets off a new cycle of destructive disorder, so if you ask me, do I want destructive order or destructive disorder?  8)

Sure...but I gotta be me.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 06:32:04 PM
again, you can't even have the creative without the destructive.

and while it may be true that any idiot can do destructive disorder, it takes a special breed to do it right.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 06, 2005, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: Bathory's Sainthoodagain, you can't even have the creative without the destructive.

and while it may be true that any idiot can do destructive disorder, it takes a special breed to do it right.

8)

:shifty eyes:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 06:36:41 PM
All I'm saying is that when you have the option, why would you do what's already been done to death, by being destructive?

How unoriginal.
:P
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 06:59:13 PM
because to this point, nobody's gotten it right yet.


yet.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 07:30:57 PM
I can't do anything right anyway, I'm left-handed. Ha.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 06, 2005, 08:21:25 PM
Turd, are you gonna tell me what you think of my rant or are you just gonna argue with AC over which of the two polars in the metaverse is the best?  :roll: Because there obviously isn't a better one. Geez, what is Yin without Yang?

~Yurito Sakari~

The Slightly Taoist Wannabe Buddhist Monk
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 08:25:59 PM
He's gonna argue with me, I bet.  8)

'course there's no yin without yang. But I think there's too much destruction, we gotta balance it out with creation. Anyway. I have to go create a 5 page essay now, see y'all later.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 06, 2005, 09:32:06 PM
The opportunity is to figure out what counts as Destruction, and what counts as Creation and balance them out. Course any ecology worth his MS will tell you about a little something called Homeostasis, also known as a dynamic equilibrium. And if nature does it and does it well, why fix something that isn't broke?

~Yurito Sakari~

The Enviromentally Concientious Wannabe Buddhist Monk
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 11:02:12 PM
because the natural environment is not what I'm concerned with destroying...it'll balance itself out in the end no matter what any of us do...to think that mankind could literally destroy the planet is the ultimate in arrogance...we could at best effect a radicacl change that would probably kill us off, but the planet would adjust and go along as it always has...no, I'm concerned with destroying every aspect of the social dynamic which we find ourselves entangled in, and it most certainly is broken...and I don't mean destroying it a little, I mean effecting the complete and total destruction of human civilization...basically, we need to be busted back to hunter/gatherers...perhaps if we start all over from scratch, and keep the mistakes of the first time around firmly in mind, we might build something that works next time...and at worst we'll get to see some neat explosions as we burn this bitch to the ground...

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Horab Fibslager on March 06, 2005, 11:06:08 PM
if we rememebr the first time around  that is...
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 06, 2005, 11:16:09 PM
Dude, Turd, thats what Im trying to say. Eventually somethings gonna snap, and civilization will colaps on its own because Nature will take back what is so unbalanced and balance it. Of course, there is also something called a Catylist. YOU seem to know what that is... :wink:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 11:27:56 PM
unfortunately, civilization has entrenched itself to the point where it will not collapse on its own...it's gonna need a pretty good push in the right direction. Say, an Indo-Paki conflict that goes nuclear and draws China and Russia in...Gary Brecher, are you listening?

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 06, 2005, 11:29:55 PM
BE THE CATYLIST, TURD! ENGAGE YOUR DESTINY!


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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 06, 2005, 11:51:21 PM
believe me, I need no encouragement...just time and money.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 06, 2005, 11:53:29 PM
8)  :lol:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Cain on March 07, 2005, 04:26:45 AM
Quote from: Bathory's Sainthoodbelieve me, I need no encouragement...just time and money.

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Always the way....
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Ben on March 07, 2005, 04:38:16 AM
Chaos is an inventive experience.  Destruction and Construction reside paradoxically.  We are all just meat on a poultry dish.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: LMNO on March 07, 2005, 06:15:36 PM
::pulls out Razor of Subjective Reality::

I have hereby Decided,Ñ¢ that the NSRA is the embodiment of Distructive Disorder.

::slices away all facts that point to a different conclusion::

There.  So says the (un-real) ELF (which does not exist).
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 07, 2005, 08:26:51 PM
just remember that the NSRA embodies destructive disorder solely for the purpose of creating a new paradigm from which a newer, better breed of constructive order and disorder may arise. It's not like we're just a bunch of wanna-destroy-the-world jerk-offs....well, not all of us...

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2005, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeThe opportunity is to figure out what counts as Destruction, and what counts as Creation and balance them out. Course any ecology worth his MS will tell you about a little something called Homeostasis, also known as a dynamic equilibrium. And if nature does it and does it well, why fix something that isn't broke?

~Yurito Sakari~

The Enviromentally Concientious Wannabe Buddhist Monk

Homeostasis?

Google Newton's laws.  Or entropy.  Not only is it broke, you can't fix it.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2005, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeDude, Turd, thats what Im trying to say. Eventually somethings gonna snap, and civilization will colaps on its own because Nature will take back what is so unbalanced and balance it. Of course, there is also something called a Catylist. YOU seem to know what that is... :wink:

You seem to be ascribing a personality to nature.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Anonymous on March 07, 2005, 11:34:10 PM
Discordia is just a chaos vaccine.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 07, 2005, 11:39:34 PM
Quote from: AnonymousDiscordia is just a chaos vaccine.

UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH!
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 07, 2005, 11:55:22 PM
don't bother, Rog...you might as well be talking to a tub of coleslaw.

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2005, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: Bathory's Sainthooddon't bother, Rog...you might as well be talking to a tub of coleslaw.

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This board is infested with epigram-generating swine.

Something needs to be done.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 08, 2005, 01:19:59 AM
It was a nice epigram.

Anyway, pffft.

And why do you hate coleslaw?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2005, 01:57:43 AM
Quote from: agent compassionIt was a nice epigram.

Anyway, pffft.

And why do you hate coleslaw?

What's not to hate?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 08, 2005, 01:58:58 AM
QuoteGoogle Newton's laws. Or entropy. Not only is it broke, you can't fix it.

I know what Newtons laws of energy are, and I most definatly know what entropy is. As long as the sun continues burining, there is not much you can do to eliminate life from this planet. THAT is Natural Homeostasis.

QuoteYou seem to be ascribing a personality to nature.

Personally, I think this is funny. You harp on me for making a statement that partially ascribes a minimal anthropomorphic quality to Nature, yet you continue on constantly about this personallity of Chaos?  :roll:  :lol:

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2005, 02:01:53 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
QuoteGoogle Newton's laws. Or entropy. Not only is it broke, you can't fix it.

I know what Newtons laws of energy are, and I most definatly know what entropy is. As long as the sun continues burining, there is not much you can do to eliminate life from this planet. THAT is Natural Homeostasis.

QuoteYou seem to be ascribing a personality to nature.

Personally, I think this is funny. You harp on me for making a statement that partially ascribes a minimal anthropomorphic quality to Nature, yet you continue on constantly about this personallity of Chaos?  :roll:  :lol:

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1.  6,400 nukes in America alone say otherwise.  Nuclear winter, much?

2.  That's different, for reasons that don't concern YUO.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 08, 2005, 02:04:17 AM
But what does any of this have to do with medicated acne pads?

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 08, 2005, 02:06:32 AM
Quote1.  6,400 nukes in America alone say otherwise.  Nuclear winter, much?

Insects, bacteria, and ocean organisms say otherwise. Give it only half a billion years or less, and there would be ecosystems bountiful enough to support megafauna again. 8)

Quote2.  That's different, for reasons that don't concern YUO.

How now, Brown-Nosed Chao?
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2005, 02:06:36 AM
Quote from: agent compassionBut what does any of this have to do with medicated acne pads?

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HEY!  That's Hugh's schtick!
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Guido Finucci on March 08, 2005, 04:24:56 AM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
Quote1.  6,400 nukes in America alone say otherwise.  Nuclear winter, much?
Insects, bacteria, and ocean organisms say otherwise. Give it only half a billion years or less, and there would be ecosystems bountiful enough to support megafauna again.

Mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble tripping hippy mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble mumble
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: agent compassion on March 08, 2005, 04:27:00 AM
Quote from: TiggerHEY! That's Hugh's schtick!

::pokes Roger with Hugh's schtick::

:lol:
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2005, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe
Quote1.  6,400 nukes in America alone say otherwise.  Nuclear winter, much?

Insects, bacteria, and ocean organisms say otherwise. Give it only half a billion years or less, and there would be ecosystems bountiful enough to support megafauna again. 8)

Quote2.  That's different, for reasons that don't concern YUO.

How now, Brown-Nosed Chao?

1.  Optimist.  Fucking VENT worms would be lucky to survive, and they are an evolutionary dead end.

2.  You aren't cleared for that.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Bob the Mediocre on March 08, 2005, 11:15:02 PM
How to Destroy the World (http://ned.ucam.org/~sdh31/misc/destroy.html)
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: EraPassing on March 08, 2005, 11:25:24 PM
Quote from: Bathory's Sainthoodperhaps if we start all over from scratch, and keep the mistakes of the first time around firmly in mind, we might build something that works next time...
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Humans can't remember the mistakes we made last week.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 08, 2005, 11:31:49 PM
1) Dude, Microorganisms and COCKROACHES for crying out loud! Jebus, are you really that stupid? Besides, take a look at Sinner Bob's site. All the nukes in existance would not destroy the earth. What takes the longest in evolution is single celled organism evolution. Once you got those, its only about 1-1.5 billion years till you got macroscopic land forms. From there, the evolutionary process is pretty quick.

2)And why would YUO be? If you think you are above any other person, your just as fucked up as the rest of the retarded pigfuckers who think they are above others.

3) WTF, Bob?! STFU!!1one! ^___^
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 08, 2005, 11:35:40 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe1) Dude, Microorganisms and COCKROACHES for crying out loud! Jebus, are you really that stupid? Besides, take a look at Sinner Bob's site. All the nukes in existance would not destroy the earth. What takes the longest in evolution is single celled organism evolution. Once you got those, its only about 1-1.5 billion years till you got macroscopic land forms. From there, the evolutionary process is pretty quick.

2)And why would you be? If you think you are above any other person, your just as fucked up as the rest of the retarded pigfuckers who think they are above others.

3) WTF, Bob?! STFU!!1one! ^___^

1.  Not true.  While cockroaches are more resistant to radiation than humans, they still die when frozen.  Are you really that stupid?

2.  I am one superior pigfucker.  D/N/T.  I also have clearance.  You don't.  Suck it.

3.  UNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH!  Just saying.
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: B_M_W on March 08, 2005, 11:47:43 PM
Dude, protists are gonna survive. Bacteria is going to survive, and chemicals will always be there for them to begin again. Do you really think it was easy for early terra lifeforms?

But seriously, you can take your omniscent cock stroaking hands and go fuck yourself. Oh, and don't forget to use high grade big buisness supported pornograpy, and remember to clean up after yourself!

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: East Coast Hustle on March 09, 2005, 12:01:54 AM
Quote from: EraPassing
Quote from: Bathory's Sainthoodperhaps if we start all over from scratch, and keep the mistakes of the first time around firmly in mind, we might build something that works next time...
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Humans can't remember the mistakes we made last week.

yeah...that's why we'll do away with homo sapiens sapiens and only those of us who have managed to evolve into homo sapiens superior will get to stick around...

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Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: Eldora, Oracle of Alchemy on March 09, 2005, 12:43:58 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger
2.  I am one superior pigfucker.  D/N/T.  I also have clearance.  You don't.  Suck it.

[little giggly girl voice - southern accent flavor]
I do just LOVE a man with clearance!
[/little giggly girl voice - southern accent flavor]

hehehehehehehe
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: EraPassing on March 09, 2005, 12:47:48 AM
*worriedly checks the label on her personal pedigree*
Title: Chaos is a Learning Experience
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on March 09, 2005, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_WannabeBut seriously, you can take your omniscent cock stroaking hands and go fuck yourself. Oh, and don't forget to use high grade big buisness supported pornograpy, and remember to clean up after yourself!


It's "omniscient", "stroking", "business", and "pornography".  

You're welcome.

TGRR,
Is laughing at you, boy.